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HEY, GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO OUR CITY COUNCIL SCHOOL BOARD SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING.
WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AT 5:07 P.M..
UM, AND I THINK THE FIRST THING WE WILL DO IS ACTUALLY APPROVE THE MARCH 27TH, 2023 MEETING SUMMARY.
[I. Approval of March 27, 2023 Meeting Summary (attached)]
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO DO SO? MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING.I THINK WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL VOTE SINCE WE HAVE SOMEBODY ON ZOOM.
MAYOR WILSON AND MISS JACKSON.
PEOPLE DON'T ALWAYS FOLLOW THAT RULE.
[II. Major Projects:]
WE WANT TO START WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL PROJECT.ARE THERE ANY UPDATES? ALL RIGHT. GO TEAM.
ECB'S BE TURNING IT OVER TO IZUKA BARTLETT FOR TONIGHT'S UPDATE.
VICE MAYOR SAID SHE DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING.
I SAID, THERE'S NOTHING TO BE TALKING.
DON'T WORRY. NOTHING YOU'RE NOT HEARING YET.
OKAY. JUST CHECKING. BECAUSE SOMETIMES I CAN'T TELL.
OKAY. NOT MISSING ANYTHING YET.
SO I'LL GO OVER THE HIGH SCHOOL PROJECT UPDATE MODERNIZATION PROJECT.
REALLY SLICK. OKAY. UM, RIGHT NOW, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THE.
WE'RE REALLY GETTING TO THE END OF IT BY THE END OF THIS MONTH.
BIG MILESTONE FOR THE PROJECT.
YOU'RE JUST SEEING SOME OF THE KIND OF THE EDUCATIONAL WINGS OF THE BUILDING THERE, STEEL STRUCTURE.
UM, THE STEEL DECK CONCRETE POURS ARE STILL ONGOING.
THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF THE GYMNASIUM.
YOU CAN SEE HOW KIND OF THE VAST REALLY THE THE FLOOR PLATE IS.
THAT'S WHY ONE OF THE REASONS OUR CONCRETE POURS TAKE SO LONG, STARTING FROM 5 A.M.
TO SOMETIMES IT CAN GO TO 10 P.M.
YOU HAVE OUR EXTENDED WORK HOURS PERMIT TO DO THAT WORK, AND IT'S ABOUT TWO TIMES A WEEK WHEN THAT WORK WILL CONTINUE THIS YEAR. UM, POOL EXCAVATION IS ONGOING.
UM, AND THEN THAT'S HIGH SCHOOL PROJECT.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER.
WE ALSO STARTED ON THE FACADE WORK AS WELL ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
ANY QUESTIONS? WE'RE ON SCHEDULE. GOOD.
ALL RIGHT. I WILL. I WILL SECOND THAT.
WE ALSO WANTED TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON DOUGLAS MACARTHUR, IF THAT'S OKAY.
IT'S NOT FORMALLY ON THE AGENDA, BUT ASUKA.
ALL RIGHT. SO I'LL MOVE ON TO DOUGLAS MACARTHUR UPDATE.
IT'S HARDER TO HEAR ON THE SOUTH.
I MEAN, SORRY, THE SOUTH ELEVATION OF THE BUILDING IS COMPLETE.
YOU CAN SEE THE THE BEAUTIFUL GREENE BRICK ON THE BOTTOM OF THE BUILDING.
AND THEN THE CURTAIN WALL IS GOING UP, AS YOU CAN SEE.
SO THE BUILDING IS STARTING TO SHAPE REALLY EXCITING.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE KIND OF THE SEQUENCE OF THE FACADE WORK STARTS WITH THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.
SO YOU'RE NOT SEEING IT ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
THAT PORTION OF THE BUILDING IS COMPLETE.
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ALL OF THAT IS ALSO COMPLETED AS WELL.AND THEN OUR CONTRACTOR HAD MOVED ON TO THE EAST SIDE.
SO THIS IS VISIBLE FROM THE JANEY'S LANE.
YOU CAN SEE THE BRICK WORK COMING UP ON WE DON'T HAVE A PHOTO OF IT, BUT THE WEST SIDE WILL START GETTING THE METAL PANELS AS WELL STARTING THIS WEEK OR NEXT WEEK.
SO WE'LL START SHAPING UP SOON.
THAT'S THE EXTERIOR WORK OUR CONTRACTORS HAVE MOBILIZED REMOBILIZED THE SITE CONTRACTORS AS WELL.
SO YOU WILL SEE THE GRADING HAS CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY WHERE THE TRAILERS USED TO BE.
UM, THIS IS MORE OF A SHIFTING TOWARDS THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDING.
YOU'RE SEEING THE COLORS, THE FUN STUFF COMING, STARTING TO COME TOGETHER.
BATHROOM TILES ARE BEING CURRENTLY THEY'RE PUTTING ON THE BATHROOM TILES AND THEN WE'RE STARTING ON THE CLASSROOM FLOORING IN NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.
SAME THING, JUST OVERALL SIMILAR PROCESS.
THE CEILING GRID UP, SAME THING IN THE HALLWAYS.
THE LIGHT FIXTURES ARE INSTALLED AS WELL.
THIS IS A PHOTO OF THE GYMNASIUM KITCHEN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S IN PLACE.
THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S LOOKING LIKE IT'S COMING ALONG AND WE'RE ON SCHEDULE ON THAT ONE AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, I WAS GOING TO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
OKAY. I'M HAPPY TO HEAR IT'S ON TIME.
WHEN EXACTLY DO YOU THINK THAT THE KITCHEN WILL BE INSTALLED COMPLETELY SO THAT STUDENTS WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE FOOD, HOT MEALS WHEN THEY WALK IN THE BUILDING? WILL THAT BE DONE BY JULY, AUGUST TIMEFRAME? YES, THE KITCHEN EQUIPMENT ITSELF GETS INSTALLED VERY LATE IN THE PROCESS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO INSTALL ALL THE FLOORING, ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE PRIOR IT.
SO I HAVE TO LOOK AT THE DETAILED SCHEDULE IN ORDER TO PULL UP A DATE FOR YOU.
BUT MY ASSUMPTION IS SOMETIME IN JUNE IS WHAT I'M THINKING.
THE PARKING GARAGE UNDERNEATH THAT WILL BE READY FOR THE TEACHERS AND THE THE KISS AND RIDE THE BUS LOOP THERE WILL BE READY FOR THE TRANSPORTATION PART OF THIS.
YES. PARKING GARAGE IS ALREADY BEEN BUILT.
OKAY. THANK YOU. AND WHEN EXACTLY DOES CODE HAVE TO GO IN? BETWEEN CODE AND THE FIRE MARSHALS? SO WE DO WORK WITH OUR BUILDING CODE DEPARTMENT VERY CLOSELY.
WE DO HAVE INSPECTORS COMING IN ON DAILY BASIS AND THEN WE DO SET UP A MEETING TO GO OVER.
WE'LL HAVE A FOLLOW UP MEETING LEADING UP TO THE COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT.
SO WE WORK WITH THEM VERY CLOSELY.
AND WHEN WILL ALL THE FURNITURE ARRIVE? THE DESKS, THE CHAIRS, THE WHITEBOARDS.
THE FURNITURE PROCUREMENT HAS BEEN IN PLACE.
CURRENTLY WE HAVE THE DELIVERY SET UP FOR THE SECOND WEEK OF JULY FOR THE FURNITURE DELIVERY.
OKAY. AND DO YOU FORESEE, YOU KNOW, HOW BIG DO YOU THINK THE PUNCH LIST WILL BE IN THE END? I'M THINKING ABOUT THE KIDS AND THE SAFETY AND ALL THAT JAZZ, AS I'M SURE YOU ALL ARE, TOO.
UM, BUT THESE ARE CONCERNS THAT PARENTS ARE HAVING AS THEY ARE SEEING THIS NOT GOING UP AS FAST AS, OF COURSE, NOW MANY HOWARD HAS BEEN GOING UP. IT'S A GOOD.
BUT WHICH IS I DON'T WANT TO SAY PAR FOR THE COURSE, BUT IT'S HAPPENED ON OTHER PROJECTS AND OUR TEAM WORKS WITH ADMINISTRATION TO MAKE SURE THERE'S MINIMAL IMPACT TO INSTRUCTION WHEN THAT OCCURS.
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THEN THE KIDS WOULD BE BREATHING THIS STUFF IN THE PAINT PRODUCTS THAT WE USE IN CONSTRUCTION NORMALLY NOW HAVE LOW VOCS.SO IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, OBNOXIOUS FUMES OR FUMES, THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN.
WHEN WHEN WILL FIRE EXTINGUISHERS AND AND THOSE TYPES OF SAFETY ITEMS GO INTO THE FACILITY? IF YOU DON'T MIND.
I THINK WHAT WILL HELP IS IF OUR TEAM CAN PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION.
THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S THAT'S MY LAST QUESTION.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE FACILITY ASSESSMENT AND CIP PLANNING UPDATES, IF THERE ARE ANY.
BUT WE ARE PARTNERING WITH OUR COLLEAGUES IN SO SORT OF ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD IN TERMS OF FUTURE FACILITY PLANNING AND BUDGETING AND THAT THOSE DISCUSSIONS ARE CONTINUING.
SO WE. ARE TALKING ABOUT SHARED SERVICES, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? UM. YEAH.
ANYTHING? MR. MAYOR? ALL RIGHT.
ANYTHING EXCITING THERE? ALL RIGHT. CITY IS ABOUT TO ADOPT A BUDGET.
WE HAVE PRELIMINARY LEAD ON TUESDAY.
OKAY. AND WE'LL BE SITTING BY IDLY WATCHING SAUSAGE MAKING SAUSAGE MAKING THIS TOMORROW NIGHT.
SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT TOMORROW NIGHT.
YEAH. SEE YOU GUYS. ENJOY THAT.
MAY 3RD IS THE POTENTIAL ADOPTION DATE.
OKAY. POTENTIAL ADOPTION DATE.
ALL RIGHT. AND ANYTHING ON THE SCHOOL SIDE? I THINK OURS HAS BEEN PRETTY.
WE'RE JUST WAITING. WE'RE WAITING FOR MR. PARAJON TO GIVE US THE WORD.
ALL RIGHT. AND MR. TURNER? YEAH, JUST A SMALL UPDATE.
SO OUR STATE REVENUE ESTIMATES WERE PRETTY SPOT ON.
WE WILL SEE A SLIGHT INCREASE IN STATE REVENUE BY ABOUT $94,000.
SO WE'LL BE ADDING THAT TO THE SUPERINTENDENTS ADJUSTED BUDGET HERE IN MAY.
LET ME ASK A QUESTION THAT'S BASED ON THE WHAT, THE SKINNY FIX THEY PASSED.
RIGHT? WHATEVER WE'RE GOING TO CALL IT.
THEY JUST SENT OUT THEIR NEW REVENUE CALCULATOR NOT TOO LONG AGO.
OKAY. AND SO THERE'S A POTENTIAL IF THEY DO GET THEIR ACT TOGETHER AND DO SOMETHING REAL THAT.
THERE'S MORE COMING. THAT KIND OF WHAT WE'RE THINKING.
POTENTIAL. YOU MEAN, DO YOU WANT TO SAY THAT, DOMINIC? YEAH. CROSS MY FINGER.
I DIDN'T HEAR HIM. NO, I WAS SAYING, I THINK THERE'S.
RIGHT. WE'LL CROSS OUR FINGERS.
ALL RIGHT. YEAH. THAT'S WHY I ASKED YOU THAT QUESTION, MR. TURNER. ALL RIGHT.
GOOD LUCK TO THE CITY ON YOUR SAUSAGE MAKING.
WHO WANTS TO GO FIRST? I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DR.
HART. I JUMPED THE GUN A LITTLE BIT ON THAT EARLIER.
SO I KNOW THESE TWO LEADERS HAVE PUT IT IN THEIR HANDS AND THEY'RE READY TO KIND OF SHARE OUT.
SO, DR. HART, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.
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JUST BRING THOSE TOGETHER AND CAN I SAY WE DO THAT, LET'S DO THAT.SO BRING IT TOGETHER NOW OR YEAH TO IT ON THE AGENDA.
I'M READY. BRING IT TOGETHER NOW.
SO, SO I THINK EMILY AND I WILL TAG TEAM THIS CONVERSATION.
I ACTUALLY DO NOT HAVE THAT OUTLINE PULLED UP IN FRONT OF ME.
BUT EMILY, DID YOU WANT TO JUST KIND OF YOU WANT US TO GO THROUGH THAT TONIGHT? IF SO, I CAN PULL THAT UP QUICKLY.
WASN'T SURE IF IT WAS INCLUDED IN ANY PACKET INFORMATION.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DRAFT AGENDA? YES. THE DRAFT HAD THREE ITEMS. OH YEAH. SHARED SERVICES AND MOU AND THE STAGGERED.
DID WE ATTACH THIS? DID YOU GET THIS? YES, THAT WAS ATTACHED TO THAT? YES. SO THIS WAS SORT OF OUR TALKING POINTS THAT WE WANTED TO WALK THROUGH WITH THIS BODY TO TO SORT OF MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK OR TO GET US ON THE RIGHT TRACK FOR THE 15TH.
SO WE WE TALKED ABOUT THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE ARE ALREADY DOING TOGETHER.
THERE ARE DOZENS AND DOZENS OF PROGRAMS AND OTHER THINGS, AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TO COMPILE THAT.
IT'S PRIMARILY PROGRAMS, BUT A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY COLLABORATING ON JUST TO GET THAT OUT AND BACKGROUND, WE SORT OF STRUGGLED WITH HOW DO WE PRESENT THAT IN A HOW DO WE PUT THAT IN A PRESENTATION? IT'S PRETTY CLUNKY. SO WE THOUGHT WE'LL JUST MAKE SURE WE SHARE THAT WITH EVERYBODY IN ADVANCE.
UM, WE ALSO WANTED TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE SAY SHARED SERVICES, WHAT DO WE REALLY MEAN? BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY WAYS TO LOOK AT THAT.
THERE ARE ACTUALLY SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE.
THERE ARE FUNCTIONS THAT OR KNOW ORGANIZATIONAL FUNCTIONS THERE ARE.
WE'VE HEARD PEOPLE TALK ABOUT LIKE SHARED SPACE, SHARED PROGRAMING.
IS IT ALL THE ABOVE AND THAT TYPE OF THING? SO TO MAKE SURE WE'RE COVERING THOSE.
SO WHEN YOU ASK STAFF TO GO BACK AND EVALUATE A CERTAIN ITEM OR THE POTENTIAL OF SHARING THAT.
EVALUATE THAT. SO HAVING A DISCUSSION AROUND THOSE, UM.
THEN HAVING THEN HAVING CONVERSATION AROUND PRIORITIES IS ARE THERE SHORT LISTS OR SHORT LISTS THAT THE BODIES WANT TO SAY? YEAH, GO FIRST, GO LOOK AT THESE THINGS.
YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MANY OF THEM.
WE DON'T WANT TO PUT THEM ON THIS LIST BECAUSE WE THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, LET'S LET.
LET THE GROUPS COME UP WITH THAT.
UM, AND SO WE SORT OF ENVISIONED THIS AS TWO LISTS.
HERE'S OUR SHORT LIST. AND THEN HERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS WE ALSO WANT TO LOOK AT.
BUT MAYBE IT'S A WE CAN'T LOOK AT EVERYTHING.
WE CAN'T EVERYTHING CAN'T BE THE TOP PRIORITY.
SO THAT WAS REALLY THE PRIMARY DISCUSSION AROUND THE SHARED SERVICES.
WE ALSO WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AROUND BUDGET COLLABORATION AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON WHAT IS FY 25 LOOK LIKE AND HOW CAN WE SET UP AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO SHARE WITH YOU SOME MILESTONES AND SOME SUGGESTIONS ABOUT HOW WE CAN.
AND WE'RE GOING TO BE STARTING THIS NOW REALLY LIKE, HOW CAN WE START SHARING INFORMATION FROM THE CITY SIDE? PROJECTIONS LOOK LIKE? WHAT DO WE THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WHAT GUIDANCE CAN WE PROVIDE TO TO SAY WHAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE NEXT YEAR? WHAT ARE SOME OF THE PARAMETERS? AND AND FOR US TO GET AN EARLIER UNDERSTANDING ON THE SIDE HERE'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
HERE'S WHAT OUR SHIP MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
AND AND SO WE CAN START HAVING SOME OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
SO REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE THE SHORT TERM FOR FY 25 AND THEN THE LONGER TERM COLLABORATION, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD WE'VE HEARD BOTH THE BODIES TALK ABOUT SORT OF WHAT IS WHAT ARE THE OUT YEARS LOOK LIKE, WHAT'S COMING DOWN THE ROAD IN SORT OF IN THE TEN YEAR AND MAYBE BEYOND AND TO HAVE SORT OF CONVERSATION AROUND.
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I'M JUST GOING TO SAY I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD.EMILY DEFINITELY COVERED IT FROM OUR VIEWPOINT AS WELL.
I THINK ONE THING, AS WE GET INTO THE CONVERSATION ON MAY 5TH REGARDING THE SHARED OPERATIONS AND DEFINING GOALS AND CRITERIA IS REALLY GETTING INTO PROBABLY SOME OF THOSE POTENTIAL POLICY DISCUSSIONS AS WELL IN TERMS OF WHAT WILL GUIDE STAFF'S WORK AS WE ARE PROPOSING SHORT LIST AND LONG TERM GOALS THAT WE CAN WORK TOWARDS, HOPEFULLY GETTING TO A PLACE OF SHARING.
AND SO JUST MAKING SURE THAT AS WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HOPING TO COME OUT OF THAT FROM A STAFF STANDPOINT WITH SOME DIRECTION AND GUIDANCE SPECIFICALLY SO WE KNOW, OKAY, YES, THIS IS WORTH PRESENTING BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GAINING MOMENTUM ON THIS PROCESS OR THIS IS SOMETHING WE PROBABLY NEED TO DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER BEFORE WE PRESENT IT TO THE RESPECTIVE BODIES FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR DECISION OR DISCUSSION MOVING FORWARD.
THANK YOU KNOW APPRECIATE THIS.
KIND OF BEGINNING OF A STRUCTURE.
THINK THINK THE IF WE WANT TO GET WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING BECAUSE THINK YOU YOU DR.
HART, YOU'VE FRAMED THE LIKE THE RESULT THAT WE WANT THEN THINK WE'RE GOING TO NEED A BETTER FRAME THE QUESTIONS AND PERHAPS EVEN. I MEAN, THINK OBVIOUSLY GIVE US WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE PAST.
I THINK THAT'S GREAT WHAT WE'RE DOING CURRENTLY.
THAT'S WONDERFUL. LET'S MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S INFORMED ABOUT THAT.
BUT WE PROBABLY SHOULD BE CRYSTAL CLEAR ABOUT PROPOSALS AND TALKING ABOUT AREAS THAT WE WANT TO EXPLORE AND THEN MAYBE HAVING THE BODIES ANSWER QUESTIONS AROUND KIND OF WHAT ARE THE WHAT ARE THE WHAT ARE THE PRINCIPLES, WHAT ARE THE GOALS AROUND SHARED SERVICES? LIKE WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO GET? YOU KNOW, MEAN IS THE IT STRIKES ME AS LIKE THE REASON WE WANT TO PURSUE SHARED SERVICES ARE EITHER TO SAVE MONEY OR DO THINGS BETTER OR BOTH? IDEALLY BOTH. RIGHT.
I THINK THE QUESTION IS HOW DO WE HOW DO WE DO THAT IN A CONSTRUCT OF OF LOOKING AT SHARED SERVICES AND THINK, HOW DO WE HAVE THE TWO BODIES PROVIDE YOU GUYS WITH FEEDBACK THAT THAT IS GOING TO BE HELPFUL AS YOU EXPLORE THOSE? I THINK THERE'S CLEARLY RED LINES ON BOTH SIDES WHERE, YOU KNOW, THINGS WE WOULD SAY, OH, WELL, WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD NEVER BE SOMETHING WE WOULD WANT TO DO TOGETHER.
BUT I WOULD HOPE THERE'S VERY FEW OF THOSE BECAUSE THINK, THINK IDEALLY THERE'S, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO DO THINGS TOGETHER AND SMARTER AND SAVE MONEY, THEN LET'S MAKE SURE WE'RE EXPLORING THOSE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THAT'S GOING TO FREE UP RESOURCES TO INVEST IN THE SERVICES YOU GUYS ARE PROVIDING, INVEST IN THE SERVICES WE'RE PROVIDING. YEAH.
MEAN THAT'S MY INITIAL THOUGHT IS MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A FRAME BECAUSE I MEAN AS I SAY, WHENEVER WE DO THESE JOINT WORK SESSIONS IN ANYBODY, IT'S MAKING SURE WE'RE NOT JUST ALL THERE IN THE ROOM LEARNING TOGETHER.
WE CAN DO THAT AT HOME IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.
YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO BE ALL IN THE ROOM COLLABORATING AND ANSWERING QUESTIONS TOGETHER AS.
SO YOU'RE ACTUALLY LIKE MY SAME BRAINWAVE HERE BECAUSE AS AS I LOOK LOOKED AT THIS, I THINK PART OF THIS, UM, I THINK MY TEACHER BRAIN JUMPS IN HERE AND I THINK THIS NEEDS TO BE ACTIVELY COLLABORATIVE.
SO I'M THINKING EVEN DOWN TO LIKE TOOLS WE CAN USE.
LIKE IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, WHAT COMES TO MIND WHEN WE THINK OF SHARED SERVICES AND JUST DO LIKE A MENTIMETER ACTIVITY WHERE WE CAN GET, YOU KNOW, A BIG VISUAL WHERE WORDS POP OUT AND THEN IT'S LIKE OBVIOUS TO EVERYONE BECAUSE THE, THE WORD THAT'S PUT IN THERE THE MOST IS THE WORD THAT'S GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST THAT COMES UP ON THE SCREEN.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT WE CAN DO, UM, ACTUALLY MIGHT MAKE IT MORE PRODUCTIVE BECAUSE I WORRY ABOUT JUST SITTING AROUND HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS STUFF.
AND WE NEED TO GET WE REALLY NEED TO GET YOU GUYS CLEAR DATA, I THINK SO.
YOU KNOW, WHATEVER TOOLS WE CAN USE AND LIKE JUST COME UP WITH THOSE KEY QUESTIONS.
UM, SO THAT, THAT WE PUT THOSE ANSWERS IN AND IT'S ON, IT'S ON RECORD, RIGHT? AND, BUT WE CAN ALL LOOK AT IT IN A WAY THAT IS NOT JUST, OH, I HEARD YOU SAY THIS, I HEARD YOU SAY THAT.
IT'S LIKE IT'S CLEAR ON THE SCREEN OR ON THE ACTIVITY, HOWEVER WE DO IT.
CLINT IS GREAT AT DOING STICKER DOTS.
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OF SIT AROUND THE TABLE MUSING OR, YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO, I THINK.UM, SO AND I'M HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT THAT AND LIKE COME UP WITH SOME ACTIVITIES.
THAT'S WHAT I DO. AND I CAN APPLY IT TO THIS.
VICE CHAIR GREENE IF YOU THINK ABOUT THAT OR MAYOR WILSON.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA, MADAM CHAIR.
THAT'S GREAT. THINK THE THE GOAL IS TO GET US FROM KIND OF TALKING ABOUT THIS TO GETTING US TO DOING THIS AND OR AT LEAST GETTING TO A PLACE WHERE WE CAN SAY COLLECTIVELY, HEY, THESE ARE THINGS.
YOU KNOW, DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME ON THIS.
YOU KNOW THIS THIS IS A WASTE OF TIME.
BUT I THINK MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, WE'RE GOING TO.
FOR SOME. YOU KNOW, TOGETHER WE CAN GIVE YOU GUYS KIND OF THE FRAMEWORK OF HOW YOU.
BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE THAT YOU AT LEAST BRING A SAMPLE, SAY TO US LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK PREVIOUSLY ON THIS ON THIS BODY YEARS AGO, YOU KNOW, WE BROUGHT IN THE.
THE WE DID THAT JOINT FLEET STUDY TOGETHER.
AND I KNOW THERE WERE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS OUT OF THAT OF POTENTIAL THINGS WE CAN EXPLORE.
I MEAN, AND LET ME BE CLEAR, LIKE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE ABOUT THIS, LIKE THIS IS NOT A THIS IS NOT A CITY KIND OF TAKING OVER THINGS THING.
ULTIMATELY, THE THE BILLS ARE BEING PAID FROM THE SAME SAME POCKETBOOK OR THE SAME SAME SAME WALLET.
SO LET'S, YOU KNOW, LET'S FIGURE OUT HOW TO ORGANIZE IT.
MISS GREEN AND MISS JACKSON, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING AFTER MISS GREEN? WAS JUST AN AGREEMENT.
UM, JUST SO I'M CLEAR, SO THERE'S NO TYPE OF.
FIGURING THINGS OUT MODE FOR THIS WORK SESSION.
AND BEYOND THAT, ARE WE THINKING OF IF WE DO GET TO THAT POINT WHERE WE DECIDE, OKAY, X COULD BE SHARED, IS THERE LIKE A WILL THERE BE A PHASED PROCESS TO THAT? I THINK IT SOMEWHAT DEPENDS ON WHAT THAT IS.
ON SOME THINGS. PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK TO DO.
BUT THERE'LL BE OTHERS THAT WILL PROBABLY SPAN A LONGER TIME THAT IT MIGHT TAKE A SERIES OF STEPS.
A LEASING IS A DEPENDENT UPON.
WHERE WE HAVE ASSETS THAT WE CAN DEPLOY TO TODAY.
AND DO WE HAVE A NEED TODAY? SO THAT'S SORT OF HOW THAT PROCESS THAT MIGHT BE QUITE A BIT DIFFERENT THAN.
I DON'T KNOW, SOME TYPE OF SHARED.
LEGISLATIVE SERVICE THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO HAPPEN RELATIVELY QUICKLY WITHOUT A LOT OF STEPS.
IT'S MORE OF A POLICY QUESTION.
SOMETHING LIKE HOW TO DEAL WITH MAINTENANCE OF OF VEHICLES.
THAT'S GOT SOME STEPS TO IT AND THAT'S PROBABLY MULTI-YEAR.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M THINKING, DEPENDING ON WHERE TWO BODIES GO AT THE NEXT TEAM.
AND THEN THESE JOINT MEETINGS WOULD BE SOME PROGRESS ON THOSE.
I THINK THAT'S IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN.
LAST. SHARING INFORMATION SO THAT THE SHIPS CAN KIND OF COME TOGETHER.
I THINK THAT IS THAT PROCESS IS LARGELY DEFINED TODAY.
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I THINK THE DIFFERENCE IS THE SHARING OF INFORMATION.EARLY WITH THE EXPECTATION OF WHAT ACTUALLY BE OCCUR AND THINK THAT WILL HELP A LOT.
SO I THINK THOSE ARE REALLY 4 OR 5 THINGS THAT I THINK WE'VE HEARD BOTH BODIES TALK ABOUT.
NOW WE'VE GOT. IT'S A LOCK IN.
DO YOU REALLY WANT TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION? YOU THINK THE THING THAT I HEARD FROM THE TWO TEAMS TOGETHER, WHICH I THINK IS VALUABLE IF.
HELP US UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE KEY PARAMETERS THAT ARE EITHER MUST HAVES OR.
PLEASE STAY AWAY FROM. THOSE PARAMETERS.
DR. ANYONE THINK ALSO PART OF THAT PROCESS IS REALLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE OPPOSITE, YOU KNOW, OF THAT KIND OF OPERATION DOES FOR US AND MAKING SURE THAT WE GET SOME COMMON LANGUAGE. BECAUSE I KNOW IN SOME OF OUR EARLIER DISCUSSIONS, I THINK YOU MENTIONED IT EARLIER, I THINK WE MAY REFERENCE A CERTAIN DEPARTMENT OR A SERVICE IN ONE WAY AND THE CITY MAY REFERENCE IT IN ANOTHER WAY.
SO I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT BEFORE YOU ALL GIVE US THOSE BOUNDARIES THAT YOU ALL HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF THOSE TERMINOLOGIES AND THE ACTUAL WORK AND SCOPE OF WORK OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS.
OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? MADAM CHAIR. YES. SO JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M GOING TO REPEAT IT BACK TO MAKE SURE I'M WE BRING YOU WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
WORD CLOUD, WHETHER IT'S STICKERS OR SOME WAY THAT WE CAN.
AND WE'VE DONE THIS IN OTHER MEETINGS WHERE WE CAN IDENTIFY WHERE WHERE THE HIGHEST PRIORITIES ARE.
AND THEN A WAY TO SORT OF SAY, IS THERE LIKE A RED STICKER THAT'S LIKE, NO, DON'T LOOK AT THIS.
WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT THING.
UM, AND THEN AND THEN ALSO HAVE A CONVERSATION AROUND WHAT ARE SORT OF THE GOALS AND CRITERIA.
ONCE WE PRIORITIZE THOSE, HOW WILL WE BE ABLE TO COME TO YOU AND SAY, THIS IS SOMETHING WE RECOMMEND OR THIS IS WE'VE LOOKED AT THIS AND WE DON'T IT DOESN'T MEET THIS CRITERIA AND WE DON'T RECOMMEND. AND PART OF ME WONDERS IF THERE SHOULD BE AN EXERCISE TO DETERMINE THE GOALS FIRST.
I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE MY THOUGHT IS.
UM, IF WE HAVE TO DO THAT BEFORE PEOPLE CAN THEN START TO REALLY LIKE.
AND I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE GOALS THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.
BUT I GUESS I WOULD BE MORE I WOULD THINK INITIALLY WE WANT TO LIKE.
IT'S LIKE AN ESSENTIAL QUESTION THAT WE WANT TO ANSWER AS A GROUP AND DO SOMETHING TOGETHER WHERE WE CAN FORMULATE, OKAY, THIS IS CLEAR THAT AMONG ALL OF US, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO GET OUT OF IT.
UM, DIDN'T WE DO? DIDN'T WE DO SOME OF THAT? UM, MAYBE THE.
OF A SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO WERE IN THAT ROOM NOW AT THIS POINT.
BUT DIDN'T WE DO SOME OF THAT RIGHT HERE? UM, THE END OF THE, NOT THE LAST COUNCIL COUNCIL BEFORE THAT WHERE WE ADOPTED THE WE ADOPTED THE GOALS, THE STANDARDS.
DIDN'T WE ADOPT SOMETHING AND WE DID IT AS JOINT BODIES.
WE AT LEAST HAVE SOMETHING WE CAN PULL OFF THE SHELF THAT WE CAN.
WELL, WHAT I CAME UP TO TALK ABOUT MAY OR MAY NOT BE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT.
SORRY. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ABOUT THAT, CARL.
BUT RIGHT AFTER THE JOINT FACILITIES GROUP, THERE WAS A CHARRETTE TYPE EVENT IN THIS ROOM WHERE THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION, I BELIEVE IT WAS, OF OF PRIORITIES AND PRINCIPLES.
UM, AND IT WAS A FACILITATED DISCUSSION.
AND YOU ALL HAD AN EXERCISE SIMILAR TO TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO WHY DON'T WE TAKE A LOOK AT, I MEAN, RATHER THAN, RATHER THAN IT MIGHT HELP YOU IF WE HAVE SOMETHING AT LEAST DUST OFF AND START FROM, YOU KNOW, THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO START OVER. BUT THAT'S THAT'S WHAT CAME TO MIND.
YEAH, THAT WOULD BE. THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
ALL RIGHT. ANY UPDATES ABOUT AMAZON AND VIRGINIA TECH? I BELIEVE DR.
YES, I AM. THANK YOU, EVERYONE.
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YES, WE JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT.LAST WEEK, AN ACC TEAM MADE UP OF OUR TECHNOLOGY INTEGRATION SPECIALISTS AND MEMBERS OF OUR OFFICE OF INSTRUCTIONAL SUPPORT GOT TOGETHER FOR THE INAUGURAL COMPUTER SCIENCE INTEGRATION SUMMIT WITH IN COLLABORATION WITH VIRGINIA TECH.
THE FIRST SESSION WAS FOCUSED ON LAUNCHING COMPUTER SCIENCE IN THE CLASSROOM, AND THAT WAS FACILITATED BY OUR COLLABORATION WITH CODE VA, ALONG WITH MEMBERS OF LOUDOUN COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS, COMPUTER SCIENCE DEPARTMENT.
OUR SECOND MICRO SESSION WAS UNPLUGGED, TOO PLUGGED WHERE WE INVESTIGATED THE WIDE VARIETY OF INSTRUCTIONAL EXPERIENCES THAT PROVIDE COMPUTER SCIENCE OPPORTUNITIES FOR STUDENTS, BOTH WITH DEVICES LIKE COMPUTERS AS WELL AS WITHOUT COMPUTERS.
THE PARTICIPANTS WERE ABLE TO VISIT SEVERAL BREAKOUT ROOMS. APPLE HOSTED A BREAKOUT ROOM WHERE WE EXPERIENCED A SWIFT PLAYGROUND AND APP THAT TEACHES CODING, AND THEY EXPLORED FREE CURRICULUM RESOURCES.
VIRGINIA TECH HIGHLIGHTED AND I.
I. YOU CAN BE A GAME CHANGER HERE WHICH WAS FOCUSED ON CAUSE AND EFFECT AND WRITING AND CODE VA FEATURED TWINE MICROBITS AND TEACHABLE MACHINE AND FINALLY VEX ROBOTICS BROUGHT THEIR ROBOTS FOR THE PARTICIPANTS TO EXPERIENCE.
AND SO OUR KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS INAUGURAL SUMMIT WAS THAT INDEED, COMPUTER SCIENCE IS PART OF EVERY CONTENT AREA, INCLUDING CORE CONTENT AND ENCORE CLASSES.
THERE ARE WAYS TO INTEGRATE THESE EXPERIENCES AND PROVIDE HIGH QUALITY ACCESS TO OUR CURRICULUM.
AND SO THIS INAUGURAL SUMMIT WAS DEFINITELY A CRITICAL NEXT STEP IN OUR JOURNEY TO CREATING EQUITABLE ACCESS TO COMPUTER SCIENCE EXPERIENCES THAT WILL PREPARE ALL OUR STUDENTS TO CONTRIBUTE AND ENGAGE IN THE LEARNING THAT IMPACTS SOCIETY IN INNOVATION AND INTERVENTION.
AND SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO OUR CONTINUED COLLABORATION WITH VIRGINIA TECH.
ANY QUESTIONS? MOVING ON, ANY UPDATES FOR SAFETY AND SECURITY? YES, HAVE A FEW UPDATES AND I'M NOT SURE IF MR. LAMBERT WANTS TO COME UP AS WELL BECAUSE SOME OF OUR UPDATES ARE JOINT UPDATES.
WE HAVE RECEIVED THE BULK OF OUR EQUIPMENT.
SO RIGHT NOW WHAT WE ARE WORKING FOR OR WORKING TOWARDS IS FINALIZING ACTUAL PROCESS INFORMATION AND COMMUNICATION INFORMATION AND FIGURING OUT THE BEST WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT FAMILIES AND STUDENTS ARE INFORMED AGAIN ABOUT THE PROCESS AND A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL THAN WHAT WAS SHARED WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD, AS WELL AS FINALIZING THE TIMELINE FOR THE PILOT IMPLEMENTATION.
STILL TARGETING MAY, BUT WHAT WE WILL LIKELY DO IS START ONE SCHOOL AT A TIME, DO THAT IMPLEMENTATION FIRST AND THEN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SCHOOL INSTEAD OF LAUNCHING THEM ALL ON THE SAME DAY. BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS OR LOGISTICAL ISSUES ON SITE AT ONE SCHOOL, HAVE THAT FOCUS INSTEAD OF BEING KIND OF SCATTERED AMONGST THE PILOT SITES.
UM, THE NEXT UPDATE IS REGARDING THE APD, MOU.
AND AGAIN, MR. LAMBERT AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING COLLABORATIVELY ALONG WITH OUR TEAMS ON MAKING PROPOSED UPDATES FOR THE MOU THAT WILL BE FORTHCOMING TO THE BOARD AT THE MAY 4TH MEETING, WHICH MEANS THAT THE UPDATED VERSION, ALONG WITH THE PRESENTATION, WILL BE POSTED THIS WEEK IN FOR PUBLIC VIEW.
AND MR. LAMBERT, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WANT TO PROVIDE ANY UPDATES FROM YOUR END REGARDING THE MOU.
SURE. NO, I WOULD JUST SIMPLY ADD THAT WE ALSO HAVE THE REVIEW OF THE MOU ON THE SHARED SERVICES WORK SESSION, SO IT WOULD BE ADDRESSED ON THE MAY 15TH MEETING.
SO THE COUNCIL HAS THE ABILITY TO REVIEW AND PROVIDE US WITH COMMENTS.
AND THEN THE INTENT WOULD BE TO MUTUALLY TAKE INPUT AND DISCUSSION ON THE MOU AT THE MAY 15TH.
AND JUST JUST TO BE CLEAR, ON THAT, MAY 15TH, YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO PRESENT THAT MOU.
CORRECT. THAT IT WILL BE A DISCUSSION ITEM ON THE AGENDA? OKAY. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S LIKE A THERE'S A.
JOINT PRESENTATION THAT EXPLAINS WHY THE CHANGES ARE THE RECOMMENDED AND ALL THAT STUFF.
ALL RIGHT. AND THEN THE NEXT UPDATE OR I SHOULD SAY FINAL UPDATE IS ON THE KIND OF SLEPT 2.0.
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AND SO JOHN, DID YOU WANT TO START OFF WITH THAT? SURE. I CAN ALSO ADD THAT SO IN PREVIOUS WORK SESSIONS BETWEEN COUNCIL AND THE SCHOOL BOARD, WE HAD DISCUSSED THE APPOINTMENT OF A COMMITTEE TO MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, TO MEMBERS OF THE SCHOOL BOARD WHO WOULD WORK TOGETHER.BUT WE HEARD THE SCHOOL BOARD AND COUNCIL LOUD AND CLEAR AT THE DESIRE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CONTINUING TO EVOLVE SORT OF INDUSTRY TRIAD MODEL AND THAT WE ARE BEING AS INNOVATIVE AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.
SO WHAT WE HAVE AND WE JUST SHARED THIS TODAY WITH WITH THE MAYOR AND WITH THE BOARD CHAIR, SORT OF WHAT A ROUGH SCOPE FOR THE OF WORK FOR THAT GROUP MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
AND WE HEARD AGAIN, COUNCIL AND THE SCHOOL BOARD TELL US THAT YOU WANTED TO HAVE IT BE A FAIRLY LIMITED SCOPE, SORT OF DESIGNED WITH THINKING THAT WE WOULD REALLY FOCUS ON ON THREE AREAS.
FIRST, THAT WE WOULD REVIEW AND ASSESS SORT OF SOME COMMON STRUCTURES OF RELATIONSHIPS LIKE THIS, MAKE SURE WE'RE CONTINUING TO TO ADVANCE THE WORK THAT THE TEAM DID, BUT MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALSO CONSIDERING ANY INNOVATIVE APPROACHES THAT MAY BE APPLICABLE TO TO ALEXANDRIA.
SECONDLY, TO FOCUS ON PROGRAM EVALUATION, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CONTINUING DOWN THE PATH OF ASSESSING THE KIND OF EMPIRICAL RESEARCH THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AND SEE THAT TO USE TO EVALUATE OUR OWN PROGRAM, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROGRAM IS DOING WHAT WE WANT IT TO DO.
AND THEN FINALLY SORT OF MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE THE NEXT ITERATION OF THE MOU ITSELF, KNOWING THAT WE HAVE TIME, THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE SORT OF TIME CRUNCHED TO BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THESE THINGS.
THIS IS SORT OF A LONG LEAD SORT OF DISCUSSION BETWEEN THE SCHOOLS AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT WITH THE GOAL THERE AGAIN BEING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO EVOLVE DOWN THE PATH THAT WE HEARD BOTH THE BOARD AND THE COUNCIL LOUDLY TELL US THAT THAT THEY WANT US THIS TO BE A MORE AS INNOVATIVE A PARTNERSHIP AS WE CAN POSSIBLY MAKE IT. SO AGAIN, WE'VE JUST SHARED THAT SCOPE WITH THE MAYOR AND WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD CHAIR TODAY.
THE INTENT WAS REALLY NOT TO BEGIN DISCUSSIONS UNTIL A LITTLE LATER IN THE SUMMER OR IN THE IN THE FALL, BUT WITH THE GOAL OF BEING TO WRAP UP SORT OF BY THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR. WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS THAT MAY 15TH DATE.
YES, THE DEPARTMENT WILL BE THERE.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR WORK ON THAT.
OKAY. WHERE ARE WE? ANY UPDATES ON COLLECTIVE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING? MADAM CHAIR, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY UPDATES ON COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AT THIS TIME.
OKAY. I GUESS I WOULD ASK, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO CONTINUE ON THE AGENDA OR MAYBE TAKE OFF FOR A WHILE UNTIL THERE'S MORE TO REPORT? I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY.
I MEAN, I SAY WE LEAVE IT IN CASE SOMETHING COMES UP.
IT'S GOING TO COME UP AT SOME POINT.
THANK YOU. I THINK THE ONLY, UM.
I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO YOU GUYS TO FIGURE OUT WHEN THIS IS ON THE AGENDA.
SORT OUT BEFORE YOU GUYS GET INTO THE HEAT OF OF OF A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING PROCESS IS MAKING SURE WE UNDERSTAND KIND OF THE STRUCTURE BETWEEN THE TWO ORGANIZATIONS AS WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
BUT THAT'S PROBABLY MORE UP TO YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, AND HOW YOU COLLABORATE.
BUT AT SOME POINT WE NEED AN UPDATE ON THAT.
SO IN A IN A COLLECTIVE ANSWER ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO PULL THAT TOGETHER.
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WELL, WE GOT A OUT OF THE WAY.SO UPDATE ON JOINT ENROLLMENT PROJECTIONS.
THIS IS THE FUN, EXCITING STUFF.
EXACTLY. I AGREE WITH YOU 100%.
UM, ERIC AND I ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT IT.
THIS HAS BEEN A JOINT PROJECT NOW FOR MANY YEARS, STARTED WITH THE LONG RANGE EDUCATION FACILITIES PLAN AND WE HAVE CONTINUED THIS PARTNERSHIP.
THE MEMO TALKS ABOUT HOW COLLECTIVELY WE WE LOOKED AT WE LOOK AT FORECASTING.
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IT'S A INDUSTRY STANDARD FORECASTING METHOD.I'M LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE BIRTH RATES, KINDERGARTEN AND CAPTURE, WHICH MEANS THE NUMBER OF BIRTHS THAT ACTUALLY END UP IN OUR SCHOOLS IN KINDERGARTEN AND THEN WHAT WE CALL THE COHORT SURVIVAL RATE, WHICH IS THE PEOPLE, THE AMOUNT OF STUDENTS THAT MOVE UP TO THE NEXT LEVEL EVERY YEAR.
AND THE RESULT OF THAT WORK IS THE TABLE ON PAGE ONE.
UM, WE ALSO FELT THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT THE CITY HAS HAD IS VERY INTENTIONALLY LOOKING AT INCREASING THE SUPPLY OF BOTH MARKET RATE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS IN THE CITY, AND THAT HAS RESULTED IN PROJECTS COMING FORWARD AND BEING MANY OF THEM APPROVED, SOME OF THEM ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS.
SO ON PAGE TWO, WE TAKE A LOOK AT UM, A PROJECTION THAT MORE EXPLICITLY FACTORS IN APPROVED AND PENDING DEVELOPMENT INTO THE, THE PROJECTION METHOD.
AND IT DOES SHOW AN INCREASE OF IT IS A, IT IS A AN AMOUNT THAT IS ABOVE THE BASE CASE.
SO I THINK THE PEAK IN THE BASE CASE IS IN.
UM, WAS IT? 2025. THAT'S RIGHT.
AT JUST UNDER 16,000 STUDENTS.
WHEREAS THE PROJECTION THAT TAKES A LOOK AT THE PENDING DEVELOPMENT MOVES JUST ABOVE 16,000 AND STAYS THERE FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME, I THINK THE PEAK IS IN FY 29.
IS THAT RIGHT? YOU HAVE A BIGGER ONE THAN I DO.
YES. SO WE WANTED TO BRING THIS FORWARD TO YOU, PARTLY JUST TRANSPARENCY ALSO SO THAT THE NUMBERS WERE BEFORE YOU, BUT ALSO TO JUST ONCE AGAIN SHOW THE PARTNERSHIP AND SORT OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON TOGETHER.
BUT WHAT DID I MISS? OH, AWESOME.
AWESOME. AWESOME. I'LL JUST ADD SOMETHING HERE.
UM, CARL MENTIONED THE DRIVING FACTORS FOR THAT, BUT SOME OF SOME OF THE MAJOR ONES THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN BOUNCE BACK FROM COVID ARE THE BIRTH RATE THAT CONTINUES TO DECLINE OVER TIME.
AND SO WITH LOWER NUMBERS OF BABIES, WE ANTICIPATE LOWER NUMBERS OF KINDERGARTEN.
WE WERE KIND OF HOLDING THROUGH COVID, REALLY HOLDING A CONTINUATION OF KINDERGARTEN PROJECTION OR KINDERGARTEN ENROLLMENT THAT HAD HAPPENED PREVIOUSLY.
BUT SINCE WE'VE NOW SEEN THIS CONTINUAL DECLINE IN BIRTH RATE OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, WE FEEL LIKE IT'S NOT JUST AN ANOMALY, THAT IT IS A TREND AND WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR IT. BUT WE'VE NOW USED THAT TO PROJECT OUT FOR THE TEN YEAR.
AND SO YOU SEE THEN WHAT HAPPENS SO THAT BASED ON THAT PROJECTION, WE'RE IT WOULD IT WOULD HAVE US LOSING CLOSE TO 1000 KIDS OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS, WHICH IS SIGNIFICANT. WE DON'T IN IN WORKING WITH CARL AND HIS TEAM AND I DO WANT TO CREDIT COREY AND PARTICULARLY SOPHIE, WHO ARE ON OUR TEAM, WHO DOES A LOT OF THIS WORK.
UM, THE WE DON'T ACTUALLY THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT THAT THE CITY IS FOCUSED ON, BECAUSE WE DO TEND TO HAVE A LOT MORE STUDENTS WHO LIVE IN AFFORDABLE UNITS IN ALEXANDRIA CITY.
SO THAT'S JUST THAT'S JUST KIND OF THE STORY.
AND I DON'T WANT THESE NUMBERS ONCE THEY'RE OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, FOR PEOPLE TO THINK, OH, CPS IS LOSING A THOUSAND OR WE'RE DEFINITELY GAINING A THOUSAND OR WHATEVER IT IS, WE'RE WE'RE JUST WORKING WITH THE DATA THAT WE HAVE.
WE'RE CONTINUING TO PLAN FOR THAT.
AND IN GENERAL, I THINK WE FEEL LIKE WE'LL BE FLAT ON WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
I'D ALSO NOTE WITH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, THE PEAK YEAR IS IN FY 2029.
WE DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH INFORMATION ABOUT DEFINITE DEVELOPMENTS AFTER THAT YEAR.
SO THAT'S THAT'S REALLY WHY YOU'RE SEEING THAT.
SO JUST TO GIVE SOME MORE OF THAT CONTEXT.
NOT SURE. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU.
THIS IS THIS IS REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR PULLING THIS ALL TOGETHER AND AND THIS IS REALLY, REALLY, REALLY INTERESTING INFORMATION AND UM, A LITTLE BIT OF A LITTLE BIT OF NARRATIVE BUSTING HERE, TOO, IN A LOT OF WAYS.
I MEAN, THINK IF YOU LIKE YOU SAID, I MEAN, IT IS A PROJECTION.
WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO READ TOO MUCH INTO IT.
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BUT I THINK THE FACT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT A PROJECTION THAT SHOWS THAT WITH THE IMPACTS OF DEVELOPMENT, WE GET BACK TO PRE-PANDEMIC LEVELS IN A DECADE.UM, MEAN THAT'S A THAT'S A PRETTY PROVOCATIVE PROJECTION.
UM, AND AND WITHOUT THEM OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW A SIGNIFICANT ENROLLMENT DECLINE.
UM, I GUESS MY, MY CURIOUSNESS IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S STILL A LITTLE BIT OF A DIVIDE AS IT RELATES TO ELEMENTARY AND, AND SECONDARY IN.
AS YOU GUYS LOOK AT THIS PROJECTION, ASSUMING THIS BECOMES TRUE, HOW DOES THIS MAKE YOU THINK ABOUT OUR CAPITAL PLANS AND WHERE WE'RE INVESTING OUR CAPACITY RESOURCES NEXT DECADE? SO A LOT OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING AS FAR AS CAPACITY PROJECTS WE HAVE NOW AND CAPACITY PROJECTS THAT ARE PROPOSED ARE JUST CATCHING US UP TO WHAT WE'VE HAD.
SO THEY'RE NOT ABOVE AND BEYOND.
IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO USE THOSE SEEDS.
PEOPLE START THEIR FAMILIES HERE.
THEY MIGHT MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
WE SEE THOSE LARGE CLASS SIZES AT THE SECONDARY LEVELS.
OUR LARGEST KINDERGARTEN CLASS EVER IS NOW IN 10TH GRADE.
SO WE'RE FEELING IT AT THE HIGH SCHOOL AND WE'RE GOING TO FEEL IT FOR A WHILE BECAUSE WE HIT WE HIT THAT NUMBER RIGHT BEFORE COVID, TOO, BUT AFTER THAT, IT MIGHT START TO DECLINE. BUT WE THE WAY WE PROJECTED OR CARRIED THE THE DEVELOPMENT ENROLLMENT IN IN THE THE SECOND ITERATION THAT YOU HAVE BEYOND THE BASELINE WAS BASICALLY PROJECTING ABOUT 60% OF THE KIDS FROM AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR FROM ANY HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS ARE GOING TO BE ELEMENTARY.
40% ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE SECONDARY BECAUSE THAT TENDS TO BE ABOUT THE SPLIT THAT WE HAVE NOW BASED ON BEDROOM COUNT, BASED ON, YOU KNOW, FAMILY CHOICES AND WHERE THEY CAN FIT. I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
YEAH, I MEAN, IT DOES AND IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S IT'S A.
I MEAN, THE PROBLEM IS THESE TRENDS CHANGE SO SLOWLY, RIGHT? ALTHOUGH THE PANDEMIC MAY BE AN EXCEPTION TO THAT RULE.
RIGHT. WE HAD SOME TRENDS THAT WENT REALLY DIFFERENT.
AND THE QUESTION IS LIKE, WHAT IS IT? IS IT REAL OR IS IT WAS THIS JUST AN ANOMALY? AND THIS WILL ALL BE A MEMORY AT SOME POINT.
BUT BUT WE KNEW WE DIDN'T HAVE AS MUCH OF A CRISIS WHILE WE WERE DOING THAT EFFORT.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST I'M CURIOUS AS WE KIND OF THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AFTER WE OPEN MINI HOWARD, WE'RE DOING A LOT OF INVESTMENT ON THE ELEMENTARY SIDE FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.
AND THAT'S GOOD. AND LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S CATCHING UP WITH A LOT OF STUFF THAT THAT WAS NECESSARY.
UM, I CAN'T HELP BUT WONDER IF MAYBE 6 OR 7 YEARS DOWN THE LINE WE'RE GOING TO BE LIKE, OH, WOW.
WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE THROWN A MIDDLE SCHOOL IN THERE MORE SOONER THAN WE DID.
AND THAT'S, I GUESS, MY MY CONCERN.
I'M SURE LEADERSHIP MIGHT HAVE A RESPONSE.
WE HAD TO THEN WE HAD TO ADDRESS HIGH SCHOOL.
I MEAN, IF IF YOU RECALL, IN THE REASON WE ENDED UP GOING THROUGH WITH THE TASK FORCE WAS WE DIDN'T HAVE THE FUNDS TO FUND AN ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE AND A HIGH SCHOOL, EVEN THOUGH THAT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT CPS HAD PROPOSED.
UM, SO YES, I THINK PART OF IT IS NOW THE COHORTS ARE BEYOND MIDDLE.
THEY'RE BEYOND MIDDLE SCHOOL. THE BIGGEST COHORTS ARE GETTING BEYOND MIDDLE SCHOOL.
THERE IS A MIDDLE SCHOOL NEED, AND I THINK OUR TEAM AND THE INSTRUCTIONAL TEAM ARE LOOKING AT THE APPROPRIATE INSTRUCTIONAL MODELS FOR FOR MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND WORKING THROUGH THAT. AND ONCE THAT WORK IS COMPLETED, THERE WOULD LIKELY BE INCORPORATION OF THAT INTO OUR PLAN.
BUT AND LET ME JUST SAY ONE OTHER THING.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE WE IF YOU LOOK AT THE BASELINE PROJECTIONS, JUST THE BASELINE PROJECTION PROJECTIONS, NOT WITH DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? WE'RE LOOKING AT ELEMENTARY GOING FROM 8000 DOWN TO, YOU KNOW, BOTTOMING OUT IN 2030 AT 7000 OR LESS THAN 7500.
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RIGHT. A SIGNIFICANT DROP IN ELEMENTARY KIDS AND THAT'S WITHOUT DEVELOPMENT.UM, OUR NEXT PRIORITY IS GEORGE MASON SEEING, THE LARGEST DROP OF STUDENTS IN THE SYSTEM.
IF THAT BASELINE PROJECTION PLAYS OUT, THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT IN GEORGE MASON.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT IN THAT CATCHMENT ZONE PLANNED ANY TIME IN THE FUTURE.
MOST OF THOSE SOME OF THAT REDUCTION IS GOING TO BE COMING OUT OF A SCHOOL LIKE THAT.
BUT I'M JUST KIND OF THINKING ABOUT HOW WE, WE PRIORITIZE.
ANY OTHER? PIECES TO DISCUSS FOR THAT.
SO TO TAG ON TO THE MAYOR'S COMMENTS, I APPRECIATE THAT, THAT BRINGING THAT BACK UP, BECAUSE I DO THINK IT WAS A GOOD POINT AT THE LAST MEETING. BUT I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM ACP ABOUT.
KIND OF. AS YOU LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS, AS YOU LOOK AT KIND OF INTO THE FUTURE.
I DON'T WANT TO CORNER YOU TO WHAT YOU SAY HERE HAS TO BE, YOU KNOW, 100% FACT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT A SOMETHING LIKE WE BUILD A MASON AND YOU ARE SEEING NUMBERS COMING OUT OF IT, IS IT THAT YOU LOOK TO REDISTRICT OR OR SOME OTHER ACTION THAT YOU TAKE? I GUESS I KIND OF WANT TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
WE THROW OUT REDISTRICTING, BUT WANT TO UNDERSTAND FROM CPS, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE OTHER OPTIONS OUT THERE IF IT'S NOT? I THINK IT'S MULTI-TIERED AND MULTIFACETED IN THAT THAT REGARD.
I THINK IT'S A LITTLE EARLY TO GIVE YOU THAT EXACT ANSWER.
AND I KNOW YOU'RE NOT LOOKING FOR THAT EXACT ANSWER.
SO I THINK BEFORE WE GIVE A RESPONSE TO THAT, LET US COMPLETE THAT ANALYSIS WITH OUR TEAM AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK, BECAUSE THAT COULD VERY WELL CHANGE THE STRUCTURE OF SCHOOLS, UM, K-5 OR MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE, WHICH WOULD ULTIMATELY IMPACT A GEORGE MASON AND ANY OF THOSE PROJECT AREAS.
AND THAT GOES BEYOND THE BOUNDARIES AND THE REDISTRICTING DISCUSSION.
I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY IMPORTANT POINT THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS FIRST.
I'M GLAD YOU SAID THAT BECAUSE I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO BRING THAT UP AND BECAUSE I THINK THAT DOES THAT THAT POTENTIALLY ANSWERS SOME OF THIS QUESTION BECAUSE YOU ADD SOME OPTIONALITY TO THESE BUILDINGS AS YOU BUILD THEM.
AND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE MIDDLE SCHOOL CAPACITY ENDS UP BEING A BIGGER ISSUE, THEN, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT YOU BUILT A K-8 IS PRETTY PRESCIENT, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU'RE ABLE TO YOU'RE ABLE TO GRAB A COUPLE HUNDRED KIDS THAT WAY.
SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE DOING THEM KIND OF AT THE SAME TIME, IT GIVES US AN ADVANTAGE TO SEE BOTH LENSES OF IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT ABOUT IT BEFORE HOW COULD WE TEAR TO DO ONE OF THE ANALYSIS BEFORE THE OTHER? BUT I THINK IT GIVES US A REALLY GOOD I HATE TO SAY COVID HAS PUT US IN THIS POSITION AS WELL AS GROWTH, BUT IT PUTS US AT A POINT WHERE WE CAN HAVE BOTH PIECES OF INFORMATION TO MAKE SOME MORE LONG TERM INFORMED DECISIONS AROUND THAT.
ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE TABLE FOR CPP COMMUNITY ELIGIBILITY PROVISION.
YEAH, I MEAN, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS, UM, SOMEWHERE RECENTLY.
I DON'T KNOW, COUNCIL. I THINK IT WAS.
UM, SO THIS, THIS CAME UP BECAUSE WE HAD, UM, WE HAD TALKED TO THE JOINT WORK SESSION ABOUT KIND OF THE, THE DROPPING FARM RATE BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE IN WHICH OBVIOUSLY WE SUPPORT, WE THINK IS GREAT.
WE HAD, UM, A GRANT APPLICATION BEFORE US THAT WAS TIED AROUND THE FARM RATE.
WHAT DOES THAT DO POTENTIALLY TO TO TO SOME OF THESE GRANTS? SO I THINK THAT WAS THE IMPETUS FOR THIS CONVERSATION.
I THINK WE'VE HAD SOME OFFLINE BACK AND FORTH AROUND, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, WHETHER WE'LL SEE FURTHER EXPANSION OF WE HAVE OTHER SCHOOLS THAT POTENTIALLY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE ALSO KIND OF HOW WE CALCULATE IT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I GUESS THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS TO GET THAT ELIGIBILITY.
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SO SURE. I THINK, FIRST OF ALL, WE GOT TO BE CLEAR ON WHEN WE SAY FARM RATES, WE'VE GOT DIRECT RATES, WHICH IS THE NUMBERS THAT WE SEE.IT'S I BELIEVE IT'S OCTOBER WHEN WE PUT OUT THAT INITIAL REPORT.
SO IN THAT SPRING REPORT, THOSE NUMBERS TEND TO GO UP BECAUSE IT DOES INCLUDE THOSE DIRECT CERTS, BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES AN INCOME SURVEY, RIGHT, WHICH REALLY TIES INTO OUR ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED NUMBER.
DIRECT CERT IS, YOU KNOW, THE FARM, THE SNAP AND ALL OF THOSE PIECES.
AND THOSE NUMBERS TEND TO GO UP.
SO EVERY YEAR WE DO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AROUND CIP.
BUT I'M SORRY, NOT TOO MANY WORDS TONIGHT, SO WE DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO CIP KIP NUMBERS AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, AND THAT IS THE TERM IN JUNE WITH CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR TEAM AND OUR BUILDING LEVEL ADMINISTRATORS ABOUT WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE 40% THRESHOLD.
BUT WE DO TALK ABOUT HOW IT'S BEST TO USE THOSE FUNDING AND MAKE THOSE OPTIONS.
AND IT'S TIED TO BIGGER THINGS, TOO.
JUST SAYING JUST THE FARM RATE IS, YOU KNOW, THE SNAP RATE AND THAT SORT OF THING.
AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TRULY CAPTURING WHAT OUR ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED RATE IS.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, THAT FALL RATE DOES NOT DO THAT.
IT DOES NOT REPRESENT US WELL.
BUT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO ENCOURAGE LOOKING AT THAT SPRING RATE BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE THAT INCOME SURVEY PIECE THAT WILL CAPTURE SOME OF THOSE FAMILIES WHOSE DATA WAS NOT IN THAT OCTOBER REPORT.
SO FIRST OF ALL, YEAH, I MEAN, ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE LEARNED AS I'VE DUG INTO THIS IS FARM RATES, A CRAPPY RATE TO USE TO DO ALL KINDS OF DECISIONS BASED ON BECAUSE OF ALL THE REASONS YOU JUST SAID.
AND AND IF ANYTHING, I THINK WE SHOULD BE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH RICHMOND AND OTHERS ABOUT MOVING TO OTHER OTHER MEASURES FOR HOW WE MEASURE A POVERTY IN THE SYSTEM AND USING IT TO TO TO FOCUS RESOURCES BOTH ON WITHIN THE SCHOOLS, BUT ALSO WITHIN OTHER PROGRAMS AS WELL.
BUT PUTTING THAT ASIDE FOR A SECOND, I GUESS, IS OUR IS OUR GOAL TO TRY TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF COMMUNITY ELIGIBILITY SCHOOLS WE HAVE, WHERE ELIGIBLE IS THAT? IS THAT A FOCUS? OKAY. SO I WOULD SAY IT'S A FOCUS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FORCE THEM TO BE.
THE DATE IS GOING TO BE WHAT THE DATE IS GOING TO BE, RIGHT? SO WE DO WANT TO ENCOURAGE ALL OF OUR FAMILIES TO COMPLETE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS TO GIVE US THE CORRECT REPRESENTATION OF OUR ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED RATE, RIGHT.
FOR WHATEVER FORM THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO COMPLETE FOR US.
SO, YES, ARE WE TRYING TO GET A BETTER REPRESENTATION OF THAT DATA? YES. SO TO PUSH SCHOOLS, I HATE TO USE THAT LANGUAGE TO PUSH THEM MORE INTO CEP, I WOULD SAY YES, WE WANT TO BE BETTER REPRESENTATIVE OF OUR COMMUNITY. I THINK THERE'S SOME THERE'S SOME PROGRAMMATIC ADVANTAGES, RIGHT? I MEAN, THERE ARE, YES, BECAUSE IT DOES HELP WITH SOME OF OUR TESTING AROUND OUR, YOU KNOW, ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED RATES AND THAT SORT OF THING AND OTHER RESOURCES.
SO YES, SO WE ARE WORKING ON COMMUNICATIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR FAMILIES COMPLETE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTATION TO HELP SUPPORT THE SCHOOLS WITH RESOURCES AND PROCESSES IN THAT REGARD. OKAY.
AND I'M CURIOUS IF THERE'S THINGS THAT WE CAN HELP WITH FROM THE DC SIDE, BECAUSE AS I LOOK AT THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA AND HOW THEY CAN BE MEASURED, THERE'S SOME ALTERNATE WAYS TO MEASURE THAT CRITERIA.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE, UM, SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE ADMINISTER WITHIN DC AND, AND WHO'S ELIGIBLE FOR WHAT IS ONE OF THOSE WAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE CERTAIN PERCENTAGES OF TANF FAMILIES, YOU HAVE CERTAIN PERCENTAGES OF, OF A VARIETY OF OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WE ADMINISTER ON THE CITY SIDE.
IT HELPS YOU GET GET ELIGIBILITY FOR, FOR DIFFERENT SCHOOLS.
I MEAN, JIM DIDN'T SAY THIS, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO HELP.
RIGHT? RIGHT. WE'RE HAPPY TO HELP.
RIGHT. WE CAN WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
SO, I MEAN, WE'RE HAPPY TO HELP.
BUT GUESS HELP US HELP YOU AS WELL.
I THINK PART OF IT IS EDUCATING OUR FAMILIES ABOUT WHAT DOCUMENTATIONS THERE ARE.
YEAH, SORRY ABOUT THAT. SORRY.
THAT DID NOT FEEL SOMETHING OUT.
LET ME KNOW. LET ME KNOW. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU DID OR NOT.
YOU'RE OKAY, BUT I THINK REALLY IS EDUCATING.
I PROMISE. AND WE DO HEAR THAT IN THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.
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GOD FORBID THAT WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.BUT IT REALLY IS A GAME CHANGER.
YEAH, LAST YEAR THAT'S A THAT'S A GAME CHANGER.
I KNOW I TALKED TO THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT AND USING FACE TO REALLY GET OUT AND PUSH OUT INTO THE COMMUNITIES WITH OUR LIAISONS AND REALLY INFORMING FAMILIES THAT HOW THIS TOOL AND THIS DOCUMENT, WHETHER IT'S THE INCOME SURVEY OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, FORM WE'RE USING, CAN REALLY HELP THE SCHOOLS.
AND I THINK THERE'S A UNDERSTANDING THAT NEEDS TO BE COMMUNICATED TO THOSE FAMILIES.
AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO OUR KIDS WITH DISABILITIES, WE HAVE ANOTHER COUNT THAT'S DUE IN DECEMBER.
AND I ALMOST WONDER IF FOR THIS IN PARTICULAR, THE COUNT ALMOST NEEDS TO BE EARLIER BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE NOW BE LOOKING AT A COUNT THAT WAS DATA FROM MARCH AND IT ALMOST FEELS LIKE IT'S TOO LATE.
RIGHT. AND I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE IT'S NOT, BUT.
YOU KNOW, IS THERE SOME ADVANTAGE? IS IT POSSIBLE TO SORT OF HAVE A SECOND, THE SECOND COUNT OR THE AFFIRMING COUNT EARLIER? I DON'T KNOW. WELL, I THINK THAT BRINGS UP A QUESTION THAT OUR TEAM HAS DISCUSSED BEFORE, WHERE OUR FAMILY SOMETIMES WHO HAVE SOME ECONOMIC CHALLENGES TEND TO BE MOBILE AND TRANSIENT A LITTLE BIT.
AND SO THOSE MAY NOT ALWAYS BE CAPTURED APPROPRIATELY IF THEY'RE MOVING IN AND OUT OF THE CITY OR WITHIN THE CITY IN WHICH SCHOOLS THEY END UP IN IN THE MARCH OR THE JUNE COUNT. SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER WHEN WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION, BECAUSE WE DO SEE A LOT OF MOVEMENT.
I WANT TO SAY AND TEAM CORRECT ME KIND OF THE NOVEMBER TO FEBRUARY TIME FRAME THAT CAPTURE THAT RIGHT, WHICH THAT DATA IS NOT SITTING IN THAT OCTOBER REPORT.
RIGHT. AND SO WHEN WE DO THE MARCH REPORT, WE SEE OUR NUMBERS GO UP FOR THAT REASON AS WELL.
AND SO IT'S KIND OF HARD TO CAPTURE THAT GROUP, AND THAT'S A PRETTY LARGE GROUP.
I THINK IT'S. IT'S A LOT TO THINK ABOUT.
UM. AND MAYBE START WITH CONVINCING WABI TO WASHINGTON AREA STATION TO USE DIFFERENT METRICS BECAUSE MEAN I MEAN THAT'S ONE OF THE PLACES EVERYONE YOU KNOW EVERYONE GOES TO THE WABI GUIDE AND LOOKS IT LOOKS AT, YOU KNOW, FARM RATE COMPARISONS ACROSS THE REGION AND MAKE JUDGMENTS. IT'S A IT'S NOT.
BUT SO IN MANY WAYS, IT'S IT LOOKS DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON HOW CONCENTRATED THE POVERTY YOU HAVE IN YOUR SYSTEM IS, BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE MORE CONCENTRATED POVERTY AT SCHOOLS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE SCHOOLS THAT ARE PARTICIPATING, WHICH WILL DRIVE DOWN YOUR NUMBERS.
KIND OF AN INTERESTING DYNAMIC.
SO LOOKING AT THE FALL AND SPRING DATA, YOU SEE DRASTIC CHANGES.
AND I THINK PART OF THE CHALLENGE IS IT'S SO HARD TO CAPTURE THE REALITY OR THE REAL NUMBERS IN SCHOOLS BECAUSE OF THE TRANSIENCY. AND YOU KNOW, KIDS ARE COMING AND GOING.
SO ANY SNAPSHOT IN ONE MOMENT AT A TIME IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT THAN ANOTHER.
COULD I JUST HAVE SOME CLARIFICATION ON WHICH NUMBER THEY WOULD USE THAT WE WOULD LOSE FUNDING FOR THE PROGRAM OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? SO IT'S NOT THAT THERE'S A LOSS OF FUNDING, IT'S THAT YOU GAIN FUNDING FOR ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AND DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A, YOU KNOW, A SCHOOL, THEN THEY ALL OF THOSE STUDENTS WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR OUR LUNCH PROGRAM.
BUT WE DON'T WE DON'T LOSE ANYTHING IF WE GO DOWN IN NUMBERS.
IF YOU GO DOWN IN NUMBERS AND YOU'RE NO LONGER A SCHOOL, THERE ARE STUDENTS WHO MAY HAVE TO PAY FOR MEAL SERVICES, AND THAT'S BASED ON WHICH NUMBER THAT'S BASED OFF OF OUR JUNE.
SEE, THAT'S WHEN WE MAKE THAT DECISION.
SO THE, THE IT'S NOT JUST ONE LIKE, YES, YOU CAN SURVEY.
AND IF YOU HAVE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF KIDS WHO ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS PROGRAM, GREAT.
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YOU CAN ALSO GET AT IT FROM YOU KNOW IF A 30 OR KIDS OR I'M JUST MAKING THIS UP BUT IF LIKE A 30 YEAR KIDS ARE ON TANF, YOU KNOW YOU'RE ELIGIBLE.IF THIS PERCENTAGE OF YOUR KIDS ARE ON THIS FEDERAL PROGRAM, YOU'RE ELIGIBLE.
AND THERE'S LIKE I GUESS THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT ROUTES TO ELIGIBILITY.
AND SO THAT'S THE PART I'M REALLY CURIOUS ABOUT IS WHETHER WHETHER I KNOW WE HAVE TWO SCHOOLS THAT ARE NOT IN THAT ARE ELIGIBLE, AT LEAST BASED ON SOME OF THAT PROGRAM ELIGIBILITY. BUT THEN I'M CURIOUS, DO WE HAVE OTHER SCHOOLS THAT POTENTIALLY ARE ELIGIBLE BASED ON PROGRAM ELIGIBILITY FOR WHATEVER OTHER PROGRAMS? SO BASED OFF OF LAST YEAR'S DATA, I KNOW YOU'RE REFERENCING TWO SCHOOLS, THOSE TWO SCHOOLS, AND NONE OF THE STAFF WAS HERE FOR THAT DISCUSSION AS TO WHY THEY WERE NOT A PART OR DECIDED TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT PROGRAM.
SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS YEAR IS WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT DATA IN JUNE, WE WILL MAKE THAT DETERMINATION TO SEE IF THEY WILL BE SEP ON PARTICIPANTS, BECAUSE REMEMBER, THE DATA IS DONE IN JUNE FOR THE UPCOMING SCHOOL YEAR, RIGHT? SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE LOOK AT THAT FOR THE COMING YEAR.
WE DON'T LOOK AT THE OCTOBER DATA.
IT'S PREDETERMINED OFF OF THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S DATA.
SO THAT'S HOW IT'S DETERMINED.
SO, SO OFTEN PEOPLE ARE CONFUSED BECAUSE THEY'LL LOOK AT THAT.
WE ROLL OUT THAT OCTOBER DATA AND THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, LOOK AT THAT NUMBER, RIGHT? SO BUT THAT'S NOT HOW WE DETERMINE IT.
IT'S DETERMINED IN JUNE AND THEN WE ROLL IT OUT AND, YOU KNOW, THE UPCOMING SCHOOL YEAR.
SO I AM NOT NOT TO LOOK BACKWARDS, BUT I AM KIND OF CURIOUS WHY WE MADE THAT JUDGMENT LAST YEAR AND IF AND IF MAYBE THERE IS SOMETHING I'M MISSING AROUND A NEGATIVE AROUND THAT ELIGIBILITY THAT MAYBE I'M JUST MISSING BECAUSE MAYBE THAT WAS THE JUDGMENT OR MAYBE NOT.
MAYBE I MISSED IT. BUT THAT'S THAT'S POSSIBLE, TOO.
BUT I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS IF THAT WAS THE IF THERE WAS SOME OTHER JUDGMENT.
SO NONE OF US WERE HERE FOR THAT ACTUAL DISCUSSION.
ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. SO ALL OF THE STAFF WHO WERE INVOLVED IN THAT DISCUSSION HAVE TRANSITIONED ON.
SO AND THAT INVOLVES 3 OR 4 OF US.
BUT WE WE WE DID HEAR THAT FROM COMMUNITY.
AND WE WILL DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK AT IT FOR OUR DECISION MAKING IN JUNE FOR THOSE TWO SCHOOLS.
ALL RIGHT. LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE'VE GOT ALTERNATIVE CHANTS FOR CHANGE.
WE'D LIKE TO SHARE ABOUT THAT.
GONZALEZ, WHO WILL GIVE US AN INSTRUCTIONAL UPDATE ON CHANCE FOR CHANGE.
HELLO, EVERYONE. MY APOLOGIES FOR NOT BEING ON CAMERA EARLIER.
I WAS IN TRANSITION, SO NOW I'M ABLE TO BE ON CAMERA.
UM, IN SPEAKING WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION AND DR.
FEENEY, WE ALL COLLABORATE TOGETHER.
WE WERE REALLY TALKING ABOUT EXPANDING THE SERVICES THAT WE OFFER AT CFC, BECAUSE WHEN YOU CONSIDER THAT CFC IS A TIER THREE BEHAVIORAL SUPPORT, A LOT OF TIMES FOR THE CHILDREN WHO ATTEND THERE.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT TIER THREE, THAT'S USUALLY ABOUT 3 TO 5% OF YOUR STUDENT POPULATION.
SO THAT ALONE WOULD BE A NEED TO HAVE 225 SPACES.
AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ABOUT 50 SPACES, SOMETIMES BETWEEN 50 AND 60 SPACES THERE.
AND WITH THAT, WE ALSO NEED TO LOOKING AT EXPANDING SOME OF OUR ELECTIVE OPTIONS.
ALSO, WE'RE LOOKING AT A NEED TO HAVE TO HAVE IT ALSO HOUSED MORE OF A SHORT TERM SUSPENSION EXPERIENCE TO HELP OUR KIDS TO STAY ACADEMICALLY ON TRACK, BUT NOT BE LOST, BUT NOT BE AT CFC FOR SEMESTER, BUT FOR SHORT TERM WHERE WE CAN PROVIDE THE ACADEMIC SUPPORTS THE CHILDREN, STAY ON TRACK WITH THEIR ACADEMICS, BUT THEY'RE ABLE TO HAVE RESTORATIVE COUNSELING AND PRACTICES TO KIND OF REFLECT ON THEIR DECISION MAKING THAT LANDED THEM WHERE THEY ARE SO THAT THEY CAN BE MORE SUCCESSFUL.
SO THAT WAS ANOTHER PIECE OF THE PUZZLE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TO HELP SUPPORT THEM.
AND SO EXPANDING THE SATELLITE MODEL, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THE SATELLITE AND THE CFC MODEL FOR THE TWO DUAL PURPOSES THAT THEY SERVE TO BE ABLE TO SERVICE MORE OF OUR CHILDREN AGAIN AT THAT LIKE 3 TO 5% LEVEL.
AND ALSO, JUST ON A SIDE NOTE, THE BUILDING ITSELF IS NOT ADA COMPLIANT.
AND SO AND THEN WE'RE SATELLITE IS IT DOESN'T HAVE THE PROPER DINING.
SO AGAIN, WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP SUPPORT OUR KIDS.
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SO THAT WE CAN OFFER MORE FOR THE CHILDREN THERE, INCLUDING THE ELECTIVES THAT WE NEED TO HAVE AS FAR AND ALSO SOME CORE CONTENT AREAS FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.SO THAT'S KIND OF THE 30,000 FOOT VIEW I'VE KIND OF WHAT THE NEEDS ARE AND WHERE WE'RE LOOKING IN ORDER TO HELP OUR KIDS STAY ACADEMICALLY ON TRACK AND TO BE ABLE TO MEET THEIR GRADUATION REQUIREMENTS AS WELL AS SOME OF THEIR SOCIAL EMOTIONAL NEEDS, TOO, WHILE THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THESE ALTERNATIVE EXPERIENCES.
SO, DR. WYATT, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? JUST. SEE, MR. MAYOR, THAT'S COMING TO THE BOARD HAS A DISCUSSION SCHEDULED ON THIS.
WHAT I THINK WHAT THE BOARD IS GOING TO HAVE TO DISCUSS IS THE ENTIRE HIGH SCHOOL PROJECT.
I THINK THIS HAS TO FALL WITHIN THAT DISCUSSION BECAUSE THE GOAL OF THE HIGH SCHOOL PROJECT IS FOR THESE THINGS NOT TO BE SEPARATE FROM EVERYTHING THAT WE DO AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL. SO THE ANSWER IS YES.
WE HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS ON THE BOOKS.
WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE HIGH SCHOOL PROJECT.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE IT ON FOR MAY AT SOME TIME.
UM, IT'S SOMETIME BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
UM, BUT THIS DEFINITELY HAS TO BE INCLUDED.
THIS IS, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S DEFINITELY BEEN A DESIRE AS A PART OF THE HIGH SCHOOL PROJECT TO RETHINK HOW WE DO ALTERNATIVE EDUCATION, TO RETHINK HOW WE'RE USING PLACES LIKE OR SPACES LIKE CHANCE FOR CHANGE.
UM. I THINK THERE'S OBVIOUSLY MORE WE COULD DO.
OBVIOUSLY, AS YOU HEARD FROM DR.
GONZALEZ, TO BE A LOT MORE COMPREHENSIVE IN OUR APPROACH FOR A PROGRAM OR A COMMUNITY LIKE CHANCE FOR CHANGE. SO.
ONE OTHER JUST REAL QUICK MATH QUESTION.
SO YOU GUYS SAID YOU SAID YOUR GOAL WAS TO HAVE A FACILITY AROUND 200 SOME ODD TO 25.
YOU SAID CHANCE FOR CHANGE TODAY IS AROUND 50.
HOW MANY KIDS ARE THERE? AND THE ATTENDANCE HAS ACTUALLY INCREASED.
WE MADE SOME CHANGES OVER THERE.
AND SO WE'RE RUNNING ABOUT 50 STUDENTS SHOWING UP.
WE CAN HANDLE ABOUT 60 MAX, BUT WE HAVE ABOUT BETWEEN 40 AND 50 PRETTY MUCH REGULARLY SHOWING UP.
SO IT'S DEFINITELY INCREASED THROUGHOUT THE SCHOOL YEAR.
WE DEFINITELY WERE STRUGGLING WITH ATTENDANCE EARLIER ON.
OKAY. OKAY. MS. OKAY. THANK YOU.
AFTER THE BOARD HAS CONVERSATION, I THINK IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA TO.
PROBABLY THIS BODY. OKAY? ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHT.
SO THAT IS THE END OF OUR AGENDA.
THE OTHER. I WAS WONDERING IF MR. SPANGLER HAS ANY UPDATES ON AFTER SCHOOL, THE HIRING, THE AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM AT THE REC CENTERS? WELL, WE'RE HUNTING FOR. OH, YEAH.
OKAY. I WAS GOING TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE BUDGET.
THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY CHANGE IN HIRING FOR THE OUT-OF-SCHOOL TIME.
AS WE APPROACHED THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR AND SUMMER HIRING IS SLOW AS WELL.
FOR OUR SUMMER CAMP PROGRAMS AND SWIMMING POOLS.
SO WE'RE STILL 10 TO 15 STAFF MEMBERS SHORT AT ANY MOMENT.
SAME PEOPLE SO THAT THERE IS AN AD THAT'S PENDING TO LOOK AT THAT.
ALL RIGHT. EXCELLENT. ANY OTHERS UNDER OTHER.
IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MADAM CHAIR. I MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN.
ALL RIGHT. I HAVE MR. CHAPMAN.
WHO? SECONDS VICE CHAIR GREENE'S MOTION.
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UM, WE'LL DO.YES, WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL BECAUSE MISS JACKSON IS ON VIRTUALLY SO.
MISS JACKSON? YES. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE ADJOURNED.
THANKS, EVERYONE.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.