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OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
[Call Meeting to Order]
[1. Discussion of SLEP Recommendations]
SO THANKS, EVERYBODY, FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING.WE ARE HAVING A WORK SESSION AND I'LL JUST QUICKLY GO OVER THE PURPOSE OF THE WORK SESSION.
I'M SURE EVERYBODY'S HAD A CHANCE TO READ THEM.
BUT THEN WE ALSO THOUGHT IT WAS NECESSARY TO MAKE SURE THAT AS A BOARD WE SORT OF SHARE HOW THESE RECOMMENDATIONS WILL INTERACT. I.
ALL RIGHT. SO YOU GOT A TURN OFF.
SO REALLY, OUR GOAL IS TO SORT OF SHARE AND HIGHLIGHT THE WAYS IN WHICH THE OUTCOMES OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS IMPACT OUR WORK WITH BOTH CITY COUNCIL AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, WITH ALEXANDRIA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO JUST QUICKLY PRESENT I'M NOT GOING TO GO OVER THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN DETAIL, BUT I DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT I HIGHLIGHTED THE SECOND ESSENTIAL QUESTION, WHICH IS WHAT WILL IT TAKE TO OPERATIONALIZE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS? BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE DISCUSSING WITH YOU ALL AND SHARING WITH YOU ALL THIS EVENING.
SO JUST TO BRIEFLY NOTE THE OUTLINE THAT YOU SEE HERE, WHICH IS THE ONE THAT WAS SHARED WITH YOU, BASICALLY CATEGORIZE THE RECOMMENDATIONS AS THEY CAME FROM THE COMMITTEE, AND THEN OUR STAFF PROVIDED A RESPONSE TO EACH RECOMMENDATION.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE IT CHARTED IN THAT WAY.
HOPEFULLY YOU GOT A CHANCE TO REVIEW THOSE AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, WE'LL HAVE TIME FOR QUESTIONS.
SO WHAT WILL IT TAKE TO OPERATE, OPERATIONALIZE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS? THERE'S SOME ONE ASSETS A LITTLE MORE CLEAR OR NEED THAT'S A LITTLE MORE CLEAR, AND THEN SOME OTHER REQUIRED SUPPORTS THAT REALLY WILL COME INTO PLAY, BECAUSE THE KEY THING HERE IS THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO OBVIOUSLY, IN ORDER TO IMPLEMENT RECOMMENDATION NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS TO CONTINUE TO FUND THE SRO PROGRAM, WE WILL NEED THAT PROGRAM TO CONTINUE IN THE CITY.
SO I THINK THAT IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST, MOST EASY, GLARING, OBVIOUS NEED.
AND THEN I SEPARATED OUT THE REQUIRED THE EXCUSE ME, THE REQUIRED SUPPORTS FROM APD.
THERE NEEDS TO BE, I THINK, AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF WORK GO THAT WILL GO INTO REVISING THE MOU.
WYATT, YOU CAN CLARIFY IF I AM OFF, BUT WE REALLY NEED TO GET TO WORK ON SORT OF SORT OF GETTING THESE THINGS HASHED OUT IN THE MOU SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, BECAUSE OUR ASK REALLY WAS TO FUND THROUGH JUNE.
AND SO IF WE'RE GOING TO REVISE THIS MOU, THERE'S GOING TO BE EXTENSIVE BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN STAFF AND THE SCHOOL BOARD STAFF AND APD AND FIGURING OUT HOW TO INCORPORATE SOME OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.
YES, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A REMINDER.
THANK YOU FOR THAT, MADAM CHAIR, THAT THE ORIGINAL MOU DID EXPIRE IN OCTOBER.
SO WE DID AN EXTENSION THROUGH JUNE.
SO THE KEY THINGS IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS, RECOMMENDATION NUMBER THREE, THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMITTEE TO ADD ORDER MAINTENANCE AND EMERGENCY EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS AS ELEMENTS TO THE FOUNDATION OF THE SRO WORK.
AND I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR BOARD MEMBERS HAVE TALKED ABOUT AS WELL, AND REALLY THINKING ABOUT HOW DO WE MEASURE THE SUCCESS OF THE SRO PROGRAM.
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AND SO AS WE HASH OUT THE MOU, THOSE SORTS OF EXPECTATIONS, I THINK.WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS A PART OF THAT PROCESS.
THIRDLY, IN REGARD TO RECOMMENDATION NUMBER FIVE, THERE WAS DEFINITELY CONSENSUS THAT REQUIRED PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT WAS NEEDED TO SUPPORT THE VARYING ROLES OF THE SRO.
THINGS THAT CAME UP WERE, YOU KNOW, SRO AS MENTOR, SRO AS TEACHER.
SO. REALLY WORKING OUT IN THE MOU AND IN HAVING TRAINING REGARDING WHAT THOSE EXPECTATIONS WILL BE FOR THE SROS.
REQUIRING ANNUAL DEESCALATION TRAINING FOR THE SROS WAS A RECOMMENDATION.
I THINK THAT ONE KIND OF SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LIKE ALL PEOPLE WHO INTERACT WITH STUDENTS TO HAVE TRAINING IN.
ALL RIGHT. I DID WANT TO JUST QUICKLY SHARE SOME INSIGHT INTO RECOMMENDATIONS TO SIX AND SEVEN.
AND ESSENTIALLY JUST PUTTING THEM HERE BECAUSE ALTHOUGH THEY ARE SORT OF LISTED WITH THE MOU PROCESS, THEY WILL REQUIRE JUST SOME DIFFERENT THINKING TO BE INVOLVED. THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION TO HAVE A REVIEW OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES AND GOVERNANCE OF SCHOOL SECURITY OFFICERS.
IS THERE A CONCERN AROUND THE NUMBER OF CISOS THAT WE HAVE? OUR STAFF NOTED THAT AT THIS TIME THERE IS NO CONCERN WITH THAT, BUT WE'RE CONTINUING TO LOOK AT THAT REVISE AND REVISIT AS NEEDED.
THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION AROUND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW JUST HOW TRANSPARENT YOU CAN BE IN THE DATA AND SO. FROM THIS, FROM THE SCHOOL DIVISIONS PERSPECTIVE, REALLY WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR LEGAL TEAM TO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE REQUIREMENTS WITH EPA AND OTHER APPLICABLE LAWS AND REGULATIONS.
OUR PRIORITY IS ALWAYS TO PROTECT STUDENT CONFIDENTIALITY.
AND FINALLY, FOR NUMBER SEVEN, THERE WAS AN ASK OR A RECOMMENDATION THAT DE-ESCALATION STRATEGIES BE RECORDED OR THE EFFECTIVENESS OF DE-ESCALATION STRATEGIES BE RECORDED AND MONITORED BY THE SROS.
OUR STAFF REALLY FELT AS THOUGH THAT REALLY SHOULD BE A RESPONSIBLE OF THE SCHOOL STAFF.
AND SO MAKING SURE SCHOOL STAFF IS IS MONITORING THE SUCCESS AND EFFECTIVENESS OF DE-ESCALATION STRATEGIES AS THEY ARE USED WITH ANY SITUATION WITH THE STUDENT. SO WITH THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS WAS THE FIRST STEP OF REALLY JUST LIKE FOUNDATIONAL WORK AND ESTABLISHING WHAT WE NEED TO DO UP FRONT RIGHT AWAY IMMEDIATELY REGARDING THE MOU AND THE MOU PROCESS.
A COUNCIL AND A SCHOOL BOARD, KNOWING THAT I THINK THAT IS FUTURE WORK.
BUT I THINK WE WOULD REALLY HAVE TO MEANINGFULLY AND MINDFULLY DISCUSS.
SO WITH THAT SAID, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO UNLESS STAFF HAS ANYTHING TO ADD.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR QUESTIONS FIRST.
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING ANY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND I GUESS BEFORE I MOVE ON TO THAT, IF YOU SAW THE MOTIONS THAT WERE TAKEN BY THE BOARD, WE BROKE UP OUR MOTIONS INTO FOUR SECTIONS.
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THE FIRST EIGHT ARE THE ONES THAT REALLY WERE APPLIED TO THE MOU.SO THAT'S WHAT WE BROUGHT TO YOU TO DISCUSS TODAY.
HOWEVER, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THEM, FEEL FREE TO ASK.
ALL RIGHT, MR. WOLFSON. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
THE. A LOT OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS HAD TO DO WITH QUALIFICATIONS TRAINING AS IT RELATES TO TO THE SROS IN THE MOU AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW THAT WOULD WORK.
AND I KNOW THERE IS A SPECIFIC YOU KNOW, THERE'S A STATE TRAINING.
AND SO I GUESS, CHIEF, AS YOU LOOK AT THESE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND WHAT IS COMING OUT OF THIS, AND I KNOW WE HAD A LAW ENFORCEMENT REPRESENTATIVE ON THE ON THE COMMITTEE, I GUESS ARE THESE ALL THINGS THAT YOU ARE COMFORTABLE EITHER ARE ATTAINABLE OR WE'RE ALREADY DOING AS IT RELATES TO OUR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS? AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE PUT INTO A PLACE WHERE THEY MOST USE SAYING, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING THIS.
AND BECAUSE OF ALL THE OTHER THINGS WE'RE DOING, WE DON'T.
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN NOW WE ARE GOING AGAINST WHAT THE MOU SAYS.
THERE HAS TO BE MORE OF A COOPERATION THAT WE'RE DOING THESE THINGS WHEN WE CAN DO THEM.
BUT THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN THE MOU ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE DOING, WHICH IS SAFETY AND SECURITY OF THAT OF THE POPULATION THERE, OF THE SCHOOL, THE WHOLE NINE YARDS.
AND I APPRECIATE YOU DIVIDING THEM BECAUSE I THINK THERE IS IT IS TWO SEPARATE THINGS.
ONE IS KIND OF QUALIFICATIONS, TRAINING, AND THEN ONE IS KIND OF JOB FUNCTIONS AND RESPONSIBILITIES.
AND THE TRICKY PART OF THIS IS, IS THESE ARE THESE ARE THESE ARE POLICE OFFICERS.
THE FIRST ARE GOING TO BE POLICE OFFICERS.
AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A FORMAL AGREEMENT ABOUT HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK.
AND WE HAVE HISTORICALLY HAD A SET OF SUPPLEMENTAL TRAINING.
CAN YOU CAN YOU REMIND EVERYONE, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT AS IT RELATES TO LOOKING AT THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, CAN YOU REMIND EVERYONE WHAT WHAT IS SUPPLEMENTAL FOR A SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER? THE SCHOOL THAT WE SEND THEM TO, IT'S A ONE WEEK SCHOOL.
IT'S A 40 HOUR COURSE WHERE THEY HAVE TO TAKE THAT UP.
AND SO BASICALLY, THEY HAVE THAT TRAINING, THEY HAVE THE REGULAR TRAINING.
WE DO OUR OWN DEESCALATION TRAINING, PERIOD FOR THE WHOLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND WE ALSO GIVE THEM, I GUESS YOU WOULD CALL IT NOT NOT THEY HAVE A PROCESS WHERE THEY ARE DEALING WITH THE STUDENTS IN THE AFTER SCHOOL ACTIVITIES AND ALL OF THAT BECAUSE WHEN THEY WERE IN THAT SCHOOL, THEY ARE REALLY A PART OF I'M NOT GOING TO SAY PART OF THEIR STUDENTS, THE STAFF THERE, BUT THEY ALMOST BECOME A PART OF THE THE SCHOOL STAFF.
THEY ARE MORE THERE AND AND ALMOST LIKE I SAY THAT PART THAT MENTORING PART THAT THE RELATIONSHIP DEVELOPMENT PART BUT IT'S NOT JUST ALSO WITH THE STUDENT WAS ALSO WITH THE PARENTS IS WITH THE WITH THE STAFF AND SO WHEN THEY GO INTO A COMMUNITY THEY ARE LOOKED AT DIFFERENTLY THAN.
NOW, I APPRECIATE THAT, CHIEF.
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THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO QUALIFICATIONS AND TRAINING FOR POLICE OFFICERS AND GET US MAYBE SOME FEEDBACK IN WRITING AS TO THIS.THIS ALLIANCE IS SOMETHING WE'RE ALREADY DOING AND THIS IS HOW WE DO IT OR THIS ALIGNS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A FINE AND WE CAN AND WE CAN HANDLE THAT AND MAYBE ADDRESS THAT AS PART OF THE MOU.
AND THIS IS POTENTIALLY SOMETHING THAT'S PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE I THINK THERE MAY BE THINGS THAT FALL INTO ALL OF THOSE CATEGORIES, AND I THINK IT'D BE USEFUL TO HAVE THE DEPARTMENT KIND OF LOOK AT THAT AND AND PROVIDE US WITH FEEDBACK.
SO AGAIN, I KNOW I KNOW THAT SOMEONE SAID, I CAN'T HEAR ME.
IS IT IS THERE A WE STILL HAVE A MICROPHONE PROBLEMS. SO I'M ON.
ALL RIGHT. CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME NOW ON THE ZOOM TO SOMEBODY VERIFY THAT.
AND AND I, I HEAR YOUR COMMENTS ON THE FACT THAT SOME OF THESE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE MOU BECAUSE IT'S IT'S, IT'S HOW YOU MANAGE THE THE WORKLOAD.
AND REMEMBER THAT THERE IS THERE'S A BASIC.
THE STATE HAS COME UP WITH AN MOU THAT'S KIND OF GENERIC, THAT FITS ALL THE CATEGORIES, AND IT DOESN'T REALLY GET SPECIFIC AS FAR AS WHAT YOU DO IN YOUR PARTICULAR CITY OR YOUR COUNTY, AND YOU KIND OF MASSAGE THAT TO MAKE IT FIT FOR WHERE YOU ARE.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING.
WE WANT TO BE AS COOPERATIVE AS POSSIBLE.
BUT WE WANT TO BE VERY HONEST WITH PEOPLE THAT, AGAIN, BECAUSE OF SOMETIMES LIMITATIONS THAT WE HAVE IN STAFFING AND ALL OF THAT, THAT WE HAVE TO BE REALISTIC ALSO BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO EVEN GET INTO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS WHERE WE WANT TO HAVE AN OFFICER THAT'S NOT AN SRO, BUT THEY'RE TRAINED, AGAIN, TO BE ABLE TO GO IN TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, DOING THE READING TIME, YOU KNOW, HAVE LUNCH WITH THE KIDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THAT AND SO WHEN THEY GET TO A POINT WHERE THEY GET INTO THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS IN THE HIGH SCHOOL, THEY'VE ALREADY DEVELOPED A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE POLICE OFFICERS AND THE COMMUNITY. AND AND WE JUST GO FROM THERE.
YOU KNOW, WE AS I LOOK AT THE REPORT AND I LOOK AT THE THE THE MISSION OF THE COMMITTEE WAS REIMAGINING THE SCHOOL LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERSHIP WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN ORDER TO ETC., ETC..
AND THEN THERE WERE THREE PURPOSE STATEMENTS.
THE THIRD ONE WAS PROMOTE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN PARENTS, STUDENTS, STAFF, ETC., ETC..
I THINK THAT'S CERTAINLY TALKED ABOUT IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND I THINK CERTAINLY THE REPORT IS PROBABLY LIGHT ON ON ON THAT ONE FOR SURE.
AND I THINK THAT WAS ACKNOWLEDGED AS WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO MY MY GOAL OUT OF THIS IS THAT WE WILL NOT REPEAT THE HISTORY THAT WE HAVE HAD IN RECENT YEARS.
AND I THINK THE WAY THAT WE INOCULATE OURSELVES FROM THAT IS BY TRYING TO WRESTLE WITH SOME OF THESE LARGER QUESTIONS AND COMING UP WITH WITH WITH ANSWERS.
AND SO IF THIS COMMITTEE WAS NOT THE VEHICLE TO ADDRESS THAT SECOND BULLET, THEN I THINK WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THAT VEHICLE AND AND PUT IT TOGETHER.
BUT I THINK WE NEED TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING AND PUT IT TOGETHER AND GET MOVING AND CONTINUE THE DIALOG, BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS THIS IS REALLY HELPFUL, THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE, BUT THIS IS ONLY PART OF THE CONVERSATION AND WE HAVE A LOT MORE TO GO.
SO I'D REALLY BE INTERESTED TO HEAR WHAT OTHERS FROM BOTH BODIES KIND OF WITH OUR THOUGHTS ARE ON THAT ISSUE, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S HOPEFULLY WHAT WE COME OUT OF HERE AT LEAST TONIGHT WITH IS SOME ROADMAP TO HOW WE DO THAT PIECE.
SO. OKAY, SO BEFORE WE ANSWER THAT QUESTION, DID ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT.
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THE RECOMMENDATIONS AS THEY WERE PRESENTED.I MEAN, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
AND SO I GUESS I'M JUST I WOULD LOVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS AKP'S OVERALL VISION FOR SAFETY AND.
AND HOW DO THESE FIT INTO THAT HOLISTIC OR COMPREHENSIVE PROGRAM AND ANY INSIGHTS YOU CAN GIVE ME ON WHAT OTHER PIECES WERE STUDIED AS YOU CAME TO THIS DESIGN FOR THIS PROGRAM? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.
YOU'VE ANSWERED THE QUESTION PERFECTLY KIND OF YOURSELF, BECAUSE WHEN WE LOOK AT SAFETY FOR APPS, EVERYONE WANTS TO LOOK AT THE SROS AS ONE PIECE OF THIS PUZZLE AROUND SAFETY.
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER IN A PREVIOUS SESSION.
WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT SECURITY AROUND ALARMS, AROUND DOORS.
WE CAN SHARE THAT REPORT WITH YOU.
SO AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR, AS YOU KNOW, WE DID ROLL OUT A NUMBER OF NEW THINGS.
AND SO AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO FIRST, WE NEED TO ADDRESS, I THINK, THE RECOMMENDATIONS BECAUSE PEOPLE KEEP WANTING TO ASK WHAT'S NEXT? THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS BEFORE WE ROLL OUT EVEN OUR NEXT STEPS AROUND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AROUND SAFETY.
DR. HART AND HER TEAM, THEY'RE IN SCHOOLS EVERY DAY EVALUATING.
THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING SOME AUDITS RIGHT NOW AT VARIOUS SECONDARY SCHOOLS.
WE'VE DONE A FEW OF THE HIGH SCHOOLS.
BUT WE ARE DOING THOSE AUDITS SO WE CAN BUILD A MORE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO GO INTO NEXT YEAR.
DR. HART, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING ADDITIONAL? YES. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH, DR.
SO IN TERMS OF THE HOLISTIC PROGRAM, WHAT WE ARE REALLY LOOKING AT IS CONTINUING TO BUILD UPON THE STRUCTURE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, WHICH DOESN'T JUST FOCUS ON SROS AS BEING THE PRIMARY SOURCE OF SAFETY AND SECURITY.
SO REALLY CONTINUING TO FOCUS ON HAVING OUR ADMINISTRATOR SUPPORT FROM THAT LENS.
SO AND THEN THE SRA IS LIKE THE THIRD TIER TO THE ACTUAL SECURITY STRUCTURE.
WE ARE, AS DR. KAY MENTIONED, DOING A NUMBER OF THINGS TO HARDEN OUR FACILITIES, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH ADDITIONAL CAMERAS THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED, THE WEAPONS ABATEMENT SCREENING PROPOSAL THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY IN PROCESS DISCUSSING WITH THE BOARD RIGHT NOW, OUR ACCESS CONTROL MECHANISMS, SO ON AND SO FORTH.
SO WE ALSO FOCUS ON HARDENING THE FACILITY.
AND THEN I KNOW MY COLLEAGUE DR.
CLINT PAIGE SAY ALL THE TIME IS BUILDING CONNECTIONS BEFORE CONTENT AND REALLY FOCUSING ON THE SEAL ASPECT OR SOCIAL EMOTIONAL ASPECT WITH OUR STUDENTS, BECAUSE WE DO BELIEVE IN DOING SO.
THAT WILL HAVE A HUGE IMPACT ON SOME OF THE SAFETY AND SECURITY CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE.
SO REALLY, WHEN WE SPEAK OF HOLISTIC, IT'S APPROACHING FROM THE STUDENT NEED PERSPECTIVE OR POACHING FROM HARDENING OUR ACTUAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEN AS WELL FROM THE PERSONNEL STANDPOINT.
THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. THE INTENT BEHIND MY QUESTION IS, I THINK IF WE'RE WHETHER WE'RE USING WORDS REIMAGINE OR WE'RE FOCUSED ON TODAY, IT'S REALLY HARD TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'RE HEADED IF I THINK WE'RE NOT ALL CLEAR AND KIND OF WHAT'S THE OVERARCHING VISION, NOT JUST FOR SAFETY AND SECURITY, BUT HOW THAT FUNDS INTO OVERALL WELL-BEING.
SO IT WAS REALLY HELPFUL TO HEAR THAT FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE PIECE.
THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD, I WAS COMBING THROUGH ALL THE REPORTS.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS IN THIS PRESENTATION, BUT I WAS LOOKING AT THE RESEARCH THAT HANOVER DID FOR THE COMMITTEE, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IT HAD TALKED ABOUT WAS THAT IN SCHOOLS WHERE THERE'S AN SRO PRESENCE, YOU ARE MORE LIKELY TO SEE DISPROPORTIONALITY OR DISPARITIES WHEN IT COMES TO OUR RACIAL AND ETHNIC MINORITY
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STUDENTS. AND I KNOW IT CALLS FOR MORE STUDY, BUT I THINK WE'VE ALREADY SEEN IN OUR OWN DATA THAT THAT EXISTS.SO I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND IN THE INTERIM WHAT WHAT IS HAPPENING.
SORRY, DOCTOR. NO, I WAS GOING TO ASK IF YOU WANTED TO START.
SO, KNOW WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IS THAT, YES, WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR APD COUNTERPARTS JUST IN GENERAL AS IT RELATES TO OUR SCHOOL SAFETY DATA THAT WE PRESENT. I WOULD SAY THAT WE ARE SEEING A TREND AND HAVE WELL, I DON'T WANT TO CALL IT A TREND, BUT IN THE LAST THREE REPORTS THAT WE'VE NOTED, OUR BLACK MALES HAVE HAD THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF ARRESTS AT BOTH THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND THE HIGH SCHOOL CATEGORIES.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF CONVERSATION TO REALLY DIG INTO THE WHY BEHIND THAT.
AGAIN, SOME BEHAVIORS THAT WE MAY BE SEEING THAT AREN'T JUST UNIQUE TO STUDENTS OF COLOR.
I'LL BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU, BUT SOME THAT MAY BE ESCALATING TO THE POINT OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, WHICH IS NOW BEING REFLECTED IN OUR ARREST DATA IS SOMETHING THAT WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO DIG INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE.
THERE ARE SOME IDEAS, AND I HAVEN'T YET SHARED THEM WITH DR.
KAY, SO I DON'T WANT TO SHARE THEM QUITE YET WITH THIS BODY AS TO HOW I THINK WE CAN APPROACH IT, NOT JUST FROM A COLLEAGUE TO COLLEAGUE LENS, BUT ACTUALLY REACHING OUT TO THAT GROUP OF STUDENTS AND HEARING THEIR PERSPECTIVE ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY SEE GOING ON IN THEIR CURRENT ENVIRONMENT.
WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO BETTER SUPPORT OUR BLACK MALES, SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO THE ARREST DATA? SO WORKING THROUGH SOME OF THOSE DETAILS SO A FULL PLAN CAN BE PRESENTED TO DR.
WHITE AND TO OUR SCHOOL BOARD, BUT JUST WANTING TO REST ASSURE THAT THAT IS NOT A POINT THAT HAS BEEN LOST UPON US AND SOMETHING THAT WE ARE LOOKING INTO WITH MUCH GREATER DETAIL RIGHT NOW. GOOD.
I APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK THE PIECE THAT CONCERNS ME AND I'M GLAD THERE ARE CONVERSATIONS COMING UP AND MAYBE THIS IS PART OF OUR LARGER CONVERSATION, BUT HOW DO WE BEGIN TO SINK THAT? BECAUSE WHAT CONCERNS ME IS WE'RE GOING TO KEEP GOING AND WE'RE APPROVING A PROGRAM OR WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.
BUT THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT A PIECE THAT IS REALLY TROUBLING AND CONCERNING IS STILL HAPPENING AND KIND OF EITHER HOW DO WE ACCELERATE THOSE CONVERSATIONS OR WHAT OTHER RESOURCES ARE NEEDED TO SUPPORT THAT LARGER CONVERSATION, I THINK WOULD BE SOMETHING I'M VERY CURIOUS ABOUT.
AND THEN THE LAST QUESTION FOR ME.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS GOES IN THE MOU OR IF THIS IS PART OF THE LARGER TRAINING CONVERSATION.
I THINK IT'S LOOKING AT THE MOU AS PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION.
AND SO I'M JUST WONDERING, WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT'S THE ROLE OR THE EXPECTATION OF SROS WHEN IT COMES TO SHARING INFORMATION WITH MAYBE THE COPS ARE NOW STATIONED IN BRADLEY OR SHARING INFORMATION OR COORDINATING HOW WE HAVE A BROADER COMMUNITY SAFETY WIDE APPROACH? SO YOU'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT OUR MEETINGS? SURE. BASICALLY, WE ARE MEETING WITH THE COMMUNITY, THE MANAGERS OF THE SHOPPING CENTER, THE SCHOOLS, AND ALL OF US ARE PUTTING OUR HEADS TOGETHER TO DEVELOP, I WOULD SAY, A STRATEGY AS TO HOW WE WANT TO APPROACH THIS.
THE APPROACH IS NOT TO MAKE ARRESTS.
YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT.
BUT A MISSING PART OF THIS IS THE PARENTS THAT NEED TO BE INVOLVED IN THESE SITUATIONS.
SO WE ARE HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS, THE SHOPPING CENTERS, THEY'RE WORKING WITH US.
WE'RE STILL WORKING ON IT, BUT WE JUST HAVE TO KEEP AT IT.
AND I GUESS A FOLLOW UP, WOULD THERE BE A FORMAL ROLE FOR THE SROS IN THAT CONVERSATION? ARE THEY ALREADY IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS? BUT YEAH, WELL, THEY KNOW THAT.
YEAH, THEY'RE INVOLVED IN THE CONVERSATIONS, NOT ONLY SROS, BUT THE DETAIL COORDINATOR WHO ACTUALLY RUNS THAT WE CALL THE DETAIL OF THE BRADLEY SHOPPING CENTER, THE OFFICERS THAT ARE WORKING THERE, AND NORMALLY THE SAME OFFICERS, THE BEAT OFFICERS.
NOW WE HAVE A STRUCTURE NOW WHERE WE HAVE PERMANENT BEAT OFFICERS IN THAT PARTICULAR BEAT.
SO THEY'LL BE INVOLVED IN THAT.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S NOT JUST A POLICE SITUATION.
IT'S GOT TO BE THE COMMUNITY HAS GOT TO BE THIS TEACHERS.
IT'S GOT TO BE EVERYBODY COMING TOGETHER.
AND WE'VE GOT TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO THINGS.
I'LL GIVE YOU A VERY SIMPLE THING THAT, WELL, I GUESS IT'S NOT SO SIMPLE.
AND DEPUTY CITY MANAGER YAN YAN.
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BUT MY SAMPLE IS NOT BECAUSE SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS MOVING THAT DASH BUS, THE BUS STOP FROM FRONT OF THE MCDONALD'S WOULD PROBABLY ALLEVIATE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE KIDS GET OFF, YOU KNOW, AND SO SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS THAT.BUT IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS THAT BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS OF TRYING TO HELP THAT MOVE, YOU KNOW? SO IT'S AGAIN, IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS.
IT DOES INVOLVE. SO THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THE PARENT PIECE, BECAUSE ALL TOO OFTEN WHEN WE HEAR ABOUT EVENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY, IT'S ALWAYS AN AC, A STUDENT, RIGHT? AND IT'S OFTEN OFF HOURS SOMETIMES AS WELL.
SO THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE IS REALLY GOING TO BE AROUND COMMUNICATION, WORKING WITH DR.
AND I THINK SHE WAS GOING TO SAY SOMETHING EARLIER.
I'VE SAID THAT SO MANY TIMES IN SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS.
YOU'LL SEE COMMUNICATIONS COMING OUT FROM OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT.
IT'S A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT WITH APD AND THE SCHOOLS.
AND SO WE NEED ABOUT TWO MORE WEEKS BEFORE THAT ROLLS OUT.
AND YOU SHOULD SEE SOMETHING COMING OUT PRETTY SOON.
DR. JACKSON, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO ADD? WELL, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.
AND WHAT I WOULD SAY IS WHERE WE WANT TO REALLY BE WITH OUR SROS IS THEM HAVING MINIMAL NEGATIVE INTERACTIONS WITH OUR STUDENTS AND REALLY WORKING TO HAVE THEM BE A PART OF THE COMMUNITY LIKE WE KNOW THAT THEY CAN BE.
FOR SOME OF OUR STUDENTS, THEY ARE MENTORS.
THEY ARE THE ADULT THAT A STUDENT CAN TRUST IN THE BUILDING.
AND DEVELOPMENTALLY AND CULTURALLY APPROPRIATE WAYS WITH OUR STUDENTS IS IMPORTANT.
THEY ARE A PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.
AND I WANT TO JUMP IN AND JUST SORT OF SORT OF PIGGYBACK ON MS..
GASTON'S CONCERN, BECAUSE WE'RE I THINK I CAN'T REITERATE ENOUGH THE FACT THAT THIS IS SUCH A SMALL PIECE OF THE PUZZLE. AND WHERE I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL FAIL IS IF WE DON'T CONTINUE TO ADDRESS AND LOOK AT THIS HOLISTICALLY. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I BROUGHT UP AT OUR LAST SCHOOL BOARD MEETING AND DON'T KILL ME, DR.
I AM WILLING TO BET THAT WE WOULD FIND TRENDS.
FOR STUDENTS WHO ARE THE THE STUDENTS WHO ARE BEING ARRESTED OR THE BLACK MALES WHO ARE THE MAJORITY? I'M WILLING TO BET WE WOULD SEE SOME OVERREPRESENTATION IN DISCIPLINE DATA.
I'M WILLING TO BET THAT WE WOULD SEE A.
AND IF WE CAN TACKLE THOSE INPUTS, HOW ARE WE HOW ARE WE ADDRESSING ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT FOR OUR BLACK MALES? HOW ARE WE ADDRESSING HOW WE JUST ENGAGE WITH THEM SOCIALLY, EMOTIONALLY IN SCHOOLS AND IN THE CLASSROOM? YOU KNOW, THE CLASSROOM IS NOT SEPARATE FROM THIS ISSUE, I CAN TELL YOU THAT.
AND SO WE HAVE TO DIG AND LOOK AT THIS SO DEEPLY.
IT IS SUCH A HUGE AND HEAVY LIFT.
BUT WE HAVE TO DO IT BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT'S WHERE THE GOLD IS.
THAT'S A BIG LEVER THAT WE CAN PULL.
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BUT WE GOT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PULL THAT LEVER LEVER.SO I JUST HAVE TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
MS.. JACKSON. AND THEN MR. CHAPMAN. THANK YOU.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? JUST WORKING.
TO GET BACK TO THE TRANSPORTATION PIECE AND THAT BUS STOP.
I'VE BEEN SAYING FOR QUITE A WHILE THAT SOME OF THIS MAY BE A CAUSE, BECAUSE WHAT I HAVE ASCERTAINED IS SOME OF THE VIOLENCE MAY HAVE STARTED BECAUSE KIDS AREN'T JUST GETTING ON A SCHOOL BUS FROM THE SCHOOL.
THEY'RE ACTUALLY FREE TO GO OVER TO BRADLEY OR WHEREVER, WHICH IS GREAT AS THE DASH BUS, AND IT'S FREE FOR EVERYONE AND WE CAN ALL GET AROUND. BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN SCHOOL ON A DAILY BASIS, THEN OF COURSE WE SEE IT OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND THEY ARE WALKING TO WHEREVER TO GET WITH FRIENDS.
AND IT'S THAT PARTICULAR BUS STOP IN GENERAL.
BUT THERE ARE OTHER STOPS TOO, THAT THEY CAN WALK TO, AND THAT'S WHERE THE CONGREGATING STARTS.
AND THEN ONE THING IS SAID TO ANOTHER, AND THERE YOU GO.
SO I'M GLAD YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT, BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT IS THAT PLAYS A FACTOR.
I WANTED TO ASK THE CHIEF WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE THE TRAINING OF THE SROS, AND WE'RE SAYING IT'S IT'S A 40, 40 HOUR WEEK.
BUT HOW ARE THEY TO GO BACK TO THE COMMUNITY PIECE AND WE WANTING WE WANT OFFICERS THAT HAVE THAT THAT CONNECTION IN OUR COMMUNITY AND KNOW THE KIDS AND GET TO KNOW THE KIDS FROM FROM YOUTH.
I MEAN BEFORE THEY GET TO MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL.
BUT HOW ARE HOW IS APD CHOOSING THE SRO TO GO INTO THE TRAINING PROGRAM? ARE YOU ARE WE LOOKING AT CONNECTIONS THAT ARE RELATIONSHIP BASED ALREADY? BEFORE YOU SAY, CAN YOU CAN YOU GO TAKE THAT TRAINING OR ARE WE OFFERING IT TO THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT? AND THEN WE GO FROM THERE ABOUT WHO CAN DO WHAT WHEN? I JUST I JUST WANTED TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT PIECE OF THE PUZZLE SO THAT THE RIGHT I ALWAYS THINK THE RIGHT PERSONALITY, JUST LIKE YOU NEED THE RIGHT PERSONALITY TO BE A TEACHER. YOU NEED THE RIGHT PERSON.
YOU KNOW, THE KIDS KNOW WHEN YOU SHOULDN'T BE TEACHING, RIGHT? THE KIDS JUST KNOW PERSONALITY AND WHO IS THERE AND CARING FOR THEM, NOT JUST TRYING TO TEACH THEM A SUBJECT.
SO THE SAME THING I THINK APPLIES WITH POLICE.
AND THERE'S AN INTERVIEW PROCESS.
AND THEN THROUGH THAT PROCESS AGAIN, THE OFFICERS COME OUT IN CATEGORIES.
AND THEN IN THOSE CATEGORIES WE LOOK FOR THE BEST FIT THAT WILL BE ABLE TO GO INTO THOSE SCHOOLS.
AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE PEOPLE WITH THE RIGHT PERSONALITY, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE NINE YARDS THAT WILL NOT JUST ADAPT TO THE TRAINING, BUT YOU CAN ALREADY SEE IT IN THE PERSON BEFORE THEY EVEN SELECTED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE A GRADE.
SO YOU HAVE TO BE VERY PERSONABLE.
YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S DIFFERENT IN THE SCHOOLS AND HOW YOU POLICE, BECAUSE WE STILL, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE STILL POLICING, BUT IT'S JUST IT'S A DIFFERENT PERSON. AND WHEN THEY GET IN THERE, I'VE SEEN THE SCHOOL ACTUALLY CHANGE THEM, YOU KNOW, TO THE POINT WHERE THEY REALLY UNDERSTAND THE MISSION AND THE IMPACT THAT THEY CAN HAVE IN THE LIVES OF YOUNG PEOPLE.
AND IT RECIPROCATES ITSELF BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING THERE AND THEY'RE GETTING TRANSFERRED.
THEY'RE GETTING TRANSFORMED IN SOMEBODY THEY DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE THEY WERE.
AND THEN WHAT REALLY SOLIDIFIES IT IS THAT WHEN THEY'RE THERE FOR A WHILE AND THE STUDENTS HAVE GRADUATED AND THEY COME BACK AND THEY REMEMBER THOSE OFFICERS, IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE. AND I THINK THE BIGGEST SELLING POINT THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE IS A FORMER SRO, SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN IN THERE, WHO'S DONE THAT, AND THEY GET TO TELL THEIR STORY.
NEXT THING YOU KNOW, YOU GET THE SAME KIND OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GO IN THERE AND DO THAT.
BUT THEN THE BOTTOM LINE IS I MAKE THE SELECTION AT THE END.
I MAKE SURE THAT THE PERSON IS GOING TO BE A GOOD FIT AND WE SELECT THEM INTO THE TRAINING.
AND IF THEY DON'T WORK OUT, WE PULL THEM AND WE DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN.
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SO THAT'S HOW THE PROCESS WORKS.MR. PARAGON, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? ALL RIGHT. MR. CHAPMAN. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
I WANT TO WANTED TO GET BACK TO KIND OF, I THINK, THE MAYOR'S INITIAL COMMENTS.
CAN WE TALK MORE ABOUT WHERE THE DISCONNECT WAS WHEN IT CAME TO THAT SECOND BULLET? THE IDEA OF OF LOOKING AT INNOVATIVE APPROACHES, LOOKING AT POLICY CHANGE, AND HOW WE ACTUALLY REIMAGINED IT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHAT A NUMBER OF MEMBERS OF COUNCIL REALLY WANTED TO SEE, WAS HOW DO HOW DO WE REALLY AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THEM BEING A SPECIFIC PIECE OF THAT PUZZLE, LOOKING AT THAT SPECIFIC PIECE AND SEEING HOW WE ADJUST THAT, HOW WE MAKE THAT MORE STUDENT FRIENDLY FOR, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, HOW WE CREATE THOSE RELATIONSHIPS. I THINK EVERYBODY ON COUNCIL AT THE TIME UNDERSTOOD THAT THERE WAS REALLY AN OPPORTUNITY WHEN IT CAME TO THE ADDITIONAL EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES THAT OFFICERS WERE DOING, AND THERE WAS A REAL STRONG CONNECTION WITH INDIVIDUALS THERE.
I MEAN, I THINK WE WE AS EVEN AS WE TOOK THE SROS OUT OF THE SCHOOLS, I THINK THERE WAS A CAVEAT THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS COULD STILL CONTINUE THOSE ACTIVITIES BECAUSE OF THE STRENGTH OF THOSE RELATIONSHIPS.
BUT AS I AS I NOTE, WHAT WE DID OR WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE, I DIDN'T SEE THE INNOVATIVE STEPS IN INNOVATIVE APPROACHES, ADDITIONAL POINTING TO STUDIES OR OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT WERE DOING THINGS DIFFERENT.
AND SO IT KIND OF SEEMS THAT WE JUST WANT TO KEEP WHAT WE HAVE AND ADD ADDITIONAL TRAINING WHERE IN SOME OTHER DUTIES TO IT VERSUS KIND OF REALISTICALLY LOOKING AT THE NEEDS OF OUR KIDS AND DIGGING DOWN AND SEEING HOW WE PROVIDE SOMETHING THAT SAYS, HEY, WE WANT TO BUILD A RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU, THAT MIGHT NOT BE WHAT WE DO NOW.
SO WHERE WAS THE DISCONNECT, WHETHER IT'S BOARD MEMBERS OR STAFF ON THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE? SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MR. NEWBY BECAUSE HE WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING.
I DON'T THINK IT WAS A DISCONNECT.
I THINK WHAT CAME OUT WAS A SENSE OF READINESS.
THAT'S SORT OF WHAT CAME OUT OF THE REPORT.
SO HAVING TO ESTABLISH LIKE SOME BASELINE THINGS FIRST.
WERE YOU GOING TO? MM HMM. YEAH. I MEAN, I APPRECIATE THAT, THAT RESPONSE, BUT.
IT WAS HOW DO WE CHANGE THE KIND OF REGULAR MODE OF WHAT OUR SORROWS ARE, LOOK AT SOMETHING DIFFERENT, SOMETHING MORE INNOVATIVE, SOMETHING MORE MODERN, SOMETHING MORE PARTICULAR STUDENT FRIENDLY AS AS THEY WERE CONCERNS FROM STUDENTS.
AND THAT SEEMED TO BE MISSED AS IT RELATES TO.
WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING NOW TODAY.
AND THEN MR. AL NEWBY. AND THANK YOU.
SO I JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY RESPOND TO COUNCILMAN CHAPMAN AND ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OR SIMILAR SENTIMENTS EXCUSE ME, SENTIMENTS OF CHAIR ALDERTON IN REGARDS TO I BELIEVE THAT THE INTENDED APPROACH WAS THAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE SO HEAVILY FOCUSED ON THE MOU AS LOOKING AT THE MOU AS THE BASIS OF HOW WE CAN START TO REIMAGINE THAT PARTNERSHIP.
I THINK, AS IT'S BEEN MENTIONED BEFORE, THAT THE WORK WAS REALLY JUST THE START OF WHAT WE CAN DO NOT ONLY ACROSS BODIES BUT ALSO FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE AND WORKING TO SEE HOW WE CAN FURTHER THE WORK OF THE SELECT COMMITTEE OR EXCUSE ME, ADVISORY GROUP ON REIMAGINING.
SO WE HAVE REGULAR CONVERSATIONS WITH APD.
WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY THROUGH THE MOU REVISION PROCESS AS WELL TO SEE WHERE THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO CONTINUE TO BUILD AND OF COURSE TAKING IN THE STUDENT VOICE AND STUDENT LENS, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT DR.
JACKSON AND HER TEAM ARE A HUGE PART OF THE REVISION PROCESS AS WELL, WHICH HAS BEEN THE PROCESS IN THE PAST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ALSO HAVING OUR STUDENT SUPPORT TEAM AS PART OF THE OVERALL CONVERSATION WHEN IT COMES TO MOU REVISION.
SO I THINK THAT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO STILL GET THERE.
COUNCILMAN CHAPMAN, EVEN IF IT DIDN'T NECESSARILY COME OUT THROUGH THIS PARTICULAR ADVISORY GROUP, I AM HOPEFUL THAT THERE IS STILL A LOT OF WAYS THAT WE CAN BUILD UPON WHAT THE ADVISORY GROUP HAS PRESENTED.
MR. NEWBY. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME? AND TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT DR.
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HART IS SAYING, THESE OPPORTUNITIES, AS WE START LOOKING AT THE MOU, AND TO ME PERSONALLY AS A BOARD MEMBER, AS YOU KNOW, THE MOU COMES BACK TO US.ONE OF THE THINGS I'LL BE LOOKING FOR OR LOOKING AT AND I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCIL MEMBERS GOT THIS, BUT ONE OF THE OF THE THINGS THAT SLEPT PRODUCED WAS THE RESEARCH COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND THAT APPENDIX REALLY IS REALLY RICH.
AND THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS IN THERE ABOUT HOW WE CAN REALLY REIMAGINE THE SRO PROGRAM AND HOW HOW THESE OFFICERS CAN BE MENTORS, HOW THEY CAN BE TEACHERS, HOW THEY CAN PLAY DIFFERENT ROLES THAT FIT INTO THE OVERALL CULTURE OF HBS, AND TO CREATE A POSITIVE CULTURE OF SAFETY AND SECURITY.
AND I WOULD I WILL BE LOOKING AT THAT DOCUMENT AS WE GO THROUGH THE MOU AND AS WE START THINKING WHAT KIND OF ROLES WE WANT THE SROS TO PLAY AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO MEASURE, YOU KNOW, THOSE ROLES.
AND HOW DOES THE SUCCESS OF THE PROGRAM LOOKS LIKE.
BUT I THINK IN TERMS OF REIMAGINING AND BEING INNOVATIVE, I THINK THAT DOCUMENT IS VERY GOOD REFERENCE FOR US TO GO BACK TO AS WE MOVE FORWARD THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.
GO AHEAD. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE READY TO TAKE, WHETHER IT'S APPENDIX A OR OTHER SUGGESTIONS AND PUT THOSE INTO THIS DOCUMENT OR AM I HEARING THAT WE'RE GOING TO RESEARCH FURTHER FOR NEXT TIME OR THE NEXT TIME OR THE NEXT TIME? LIKE, I REALLY WANT TO SEE SOMETHING WITH THIS NEW MOU, IF THAT'S IF THAT'S WHAT WE SPENT THE LAST I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MONTHS WORKING ON.
I THINK OUR STUDENTS, OUR PARENTS, EVERYBODY IS EXPECTING US TO BRING SOMETHING FORWARD NOW.
SO, MADAM CHAIR, CAN I SPEAK? OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO GO.
AL NEWBY, CHIEF SUPERINTENDENT.
OKAY. JUST TO WRAP UP MY POINT, SO IF YOU CLICK ON THE LINK THAT'S LINKED TO RECOMMENDATION NUMBER FOUR FROM THE SLEEP, IT'LL TAKE YOU TO THAT DOCUMENT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND AGAIN, THAT DOCUMENT IS A PRODUCTION OF THE RESEARCH COMMITTEE.
SO THAT'S THAT'S THE PART I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT I PERSONALLY WILL BE LOOKING AT AND USING AS A GUIDE, AS A GUIDANCE AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN TERMS OF RETHINKING AND APPROACHING THAT SORT OF ROLE.
ALL RIGHT. DO YOU KNOW? GO AHEAD, MAN.
I FEEL LIKE THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT THIS POINT IN THE MEETING.
AND THE PURPOSE OF TONIGHT'S MEETING IS TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, BECAUSE WE'VE CHARGED THIS COMMITTEE TO BRING BACK THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE INFORMATION FOR US AS A COLLECTIVE BODY TO NOW MAKE THOSE VERY INNOVATIVE AND POLICY DECISIONS THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THE WORK THAT THEY DID.
THEY WERE CHARGED WITH THIS RIGHT TO BRING THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE NOT SEEING NOT TO MAKE CHANGES NOW.
IT IS OUR INTENT TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO WITH THESE RECOMMENDATIONS TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES.
SO I JUST WANTED TO BE MINDFUL THAT WE'RE NOT DISREGARDING THESE CHANGES.
THIS COMMITTEE HAS WORKED VERY HARD FOR SIX MONTHS.
IT'S NOW AT THE POINT WHERE THE EXPERTISE OF OUR STAFF IN THIS BODY, CITY OFFICIALS, AS WELL AS SCHOOL OFFICIALS, TO TAKE THOSE AND TO DO EXACTLY WHAT I THINK YOU'RE ASKING. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE IN YOUR ASS THAT YOU MAY HAVE A SPECIFIC TASK THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN WRITTEN OUT IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT I THINK THIS IS OUR CHARGE TONIGHT AT THIS LEVEL IS TO MAKE THOSE INNOVATIVE CHANGES.
SO, MADAM CHAIR, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU.
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THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. COUNCILMAN CHAPMAN, I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE SLAP.BUT THE WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IS NOT OVER, AND I'M GOING TO USE THAT TO INTRODUCE MY NEW ASSISTANT CHIEF, EASTON MCDONALD, WHO WAS AN SRO FROM A I WOULD CALL IT A A STELLAR PROGRAM MADE ITS WAY UP TO THE.
ALL THROUGH MAJOR AT LOUDON COUNTY AND CAME OUT HERE WHERE THEY HAD HOW MANY SROS DO YOU HAVE THERE? 40. 43 SROS IN THEIR ENTIRE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
AND THEN THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, THEY MADE TWO ARRESTS.
HE HAS A LOT OF IDEAS, IS HOW WE ARE WORKING IN THE SCHOOLS.
WE ARE WE ARE ANXIOUSLY WAITING FOR THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE WITH DR.
KAY WYATT AND HER STAFF TO BEGIN TO LOOK AT NOW, SINCE WE'VE GOT THE RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO HOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT AND COME UP WITH SOME TANGIBLE IDEAS AS TO HOW WE CAN AGAIN ENHANCE.
AM I GOING TO SAY ENHANCE WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING TO ENSURE THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS THE BEST THING FOR THIS CITY? AND YOU HAVE MY WORD ON THAT.
SO HE WAS REALLY ASKING ABOUT THIS RE-ENVISIONING PIECE OR REIMAGINING.
AND THAT I THINK IT'S A RESEARCH BASED METHOD.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S RECOMMENDED FROM THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF SROS AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY TANGIBLE, WHICH I SEE A LOT OF PIECES OF THIS PLAY OUT IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT NAMED SPECIFICALLY AS THE TRIAD MODEL.
BUT THAT TO ME IS WHAT I SAW AS THE OVERARCHING RE-ENVISION OF WHAT THIS SHOULD LOOK LIKE.
AND I THINK IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET.
COUNCILMEMBER CHAPMAN I THINK IT GETS TO A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR AROUND MENTORSHIP AND COUNSELING AND THE MULTIPLE ROLES THAT IN SRO CAN. OKAY.
IS THERE ANYBODY I'M MISSING? OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SO MISS BAGLEY AND THEN DR.
HART. ARE YOU RESPONDING TO SOMETHING, DR.
HART? YES, JUST TO COUNCILMAN CHAPMAN IN REGARDS TO A TIMELINE, THAT IT IS DEFINITELY OUR INTENTION IN WORKING WITH APD TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE NO PROVISIONS IN THE MOU FOR THIS NEXT GO ROUND, THE ONE THAT'S COMING UP NEXT.
IT IS NOT OUR INTENTION TO KEEP THE MOU STATUS QUO.
SO IT IS NOT OUR INTENTION AT ALL TO PRESENT ANOTHER MOU.
SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT TONIGHT.
I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT I'M NOT.
I GUESS I'M TRYING TO BE NUANCED WITH WHAT I MEAN BY STATUS QUO.
IT'S NOT JUST KIND OF DATA DATA COLLECTION.
THE COMMUNICATION AROUND KIND OF THE THE LAWS AND WHAT OUR POLICE ARE DOING.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE TRAINING EITHER.
IT'S IT'S KIND OF WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE, HOW THEY INTERACT WITHIN THE SCHOOL.
THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL WANTED TO SEE.
WE WANTED TO GET AT SOME SOME DEEPER ISSUES WITHIN OUR SCHOOL COMMUNITY WHERE WE BELIEVE OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, AS WELL AS PSYCHOLOGISTS AND OTHERS, COULD BE USEFUL AND HELPFUL.
AND I JUST DID NOT SEE MAYBE IT'S JUST MAYBE I MISSED SOMETHING IN THE REPORTS, BUT I JUST DIDN'T SEE THAT COMING TO FRUITION IN A WAY FORWARD THAT WE COULD VERY QUICKLY KIND OF GET UP TO SPEED ON THAT.
I THINK IF THERE ARE THERE ARE IDEAS.
THIS I KNOW THE SCHOOL BOARD'S HAD A COUPLE OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND ABOUT HOW THE COMMITTEE WAS BUILT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A COMMITTEE THAT WAS TO REPORT TO THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THE SUPERINTENDENT WAS TO REPORT TO THE SCHOOL BOARD.
AND SO I THINK WE'RE I GUESS I'M A LITTLE FRUSTRATED THAT WE'RE WE'RE CONTINUING TO TO REALLY DEAL WITH A SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE SUPERINTENDENT VERSUS THE REAL RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE SUPERINTENDENT TO THE SCHOOL BOARD AND SCHOOL BOARD TALKING WITH COUNCIL ABOUT WHAT THEIR NOW RECOMMENDATIONS
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ARE VERSUS WHAT A SUBCOMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATIONS ARE.I THINK WE'RE THAT'S I GUESS PART OF MY FRUSTRATION IS.
I MEAN, IF. IT'S ABOUT I CAN SEE YOU WANTING TO RESPOND.
I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THAT THREAD IF.
KIND OF LIKE WHAT THE CHIEF WAS SAYING EARLIER.
PLEASE KNOW, THOSE CONVERSATIONS GO ON ALL THE TIME BEHIND THE SCENES WITH OUR STAFF ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO SUPPORT OUR STUDENTS, ESPECIALLY OUR STUDENTS THAT ARE MARGINALIZED OR BLACK MALES.
SO THAT WORK IS STILL HAPPENING WHILE IT MAY NOT SIT IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
AS A SUPERINTENDENT IN MY STAFF, WE CAN'T CONTROL THE RECOMMENDATIONS WHERE THAT CAME FROM.
THIS COMMITTEE. WE CAN ONLY TAKE THEM, PRESENT THEM AS IS TO YOU ALL, AS WELL AS THE SCHOOL BOARD.
FROM THAT, THAT'S WHERE I THINK WE GET INNOVATIVE, RIGHT, WITH THE WORK WITH THIS COLLECTIVE BODY HEARING ALL OF YOUR INPUT TO TAKE BACK BETWEEN OUR TWO COLLECTIVE BODIES TO WORK TO MAKE THOSE THINGS HAPPEN.
RIGHT. WHEN WE MET, I DON'T KNOW.
IT WAS WE TALKED ABOUT A RECENT INCIDENT AND HOW WE CAN IMPROVE UPON THAT.
AND PLEASE KNOW THAT WE HAVE ONGOING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT AND WE'VE HAD IT WITH CAPTAIN VALENTINE AS WELL TO MAKE SURE EVEN THIS YEAR THAT SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVE NOT HAPPENED.
AND DR. HART'S TEAM HAS PUT APPROACHES IN TO REALLY SUPPORT OUR STUDENTS.
SO WHILE IT'S NOT HERE IN PLAIN WRITING AND SLEPT, OF COURSE WE HAVE TO INTERPRET THIS TO FURTHER KIND OF PROVIDE FOR OUR STUDENTS, PUT IN MORE RESOURCES FOR FAMILIES, THAT SORT OF THING.
BUT IT'S NOT JUST THAT CLEAR HERE.
GO AHEAD, MR. MCFADDEN. SO IF BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING NOW, DOES THIS PROPOSAL KIND OF CHANNELED THROUGH YOU TO THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THEN CAME TO THIS FOR DISCUSSION, WHY ARE WE NOT GOING ITEM BY ITEM THROUGH THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND ACTUALLY HAVING A DETAILED DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT WE WANT THIS TO LOOK LIKE? WHY DID WE JUMP STRAIGHT TO THE IMPLEMENTATION QUESTION AS OPPOSED TO THE BROADER QUESTIONS THAT ARE BEFORE US? CAN YOU REPEAT THAT QUESTION? SURE. I MEAN, ARE WE WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY GOING THROUGH EACH OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS ONE BY ONE IN A DISCUSSION HERE.
SO THE ONES THAT I BROUGHT FORWARD FOR DISCUSSION WERE ONE THROUGH EIGHT.
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THE OTHERS, I JUST THINK THAT A COUNCILMAN CHAPMAN WAS GETTING TO A POINT THAT THE COUNCIL'S CONCERNS WERE VERY HOLISTIC ABOUT THIS ENTIRE PROGRAM AND WE'RE NOT SORT OF GRAPPLING WITH THOSE IN ANY REAL WAY HERE.
AND IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT WAS PART OF THE AGENDA HERE.
AND I THINK THAT THAT WAS A CONCERN THAT SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY HAVE.
SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, WHERE DO WE MOVE FORWARD THEN? BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'VE GOT TO GET TO AT THIS POINT.
I THINK. I JUST HAVE TO ZONE IN ON.
SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS MEETING WAS TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.
IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE OTHERS, I THINK YOU CAN FEEL FREE TO ASK THEM.
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SO THIS IS NOT THE END ALL, BE ALL.BUT WE HAVE TO START AND MOVE FORWARD SOMEWHERE.
THE BIG QUESTION THAT WAS ON THE TABLE.
THE BIG ISSUE WAS THE SRO ISSUE.
LIKE, I HATE THAT THAT WAS IT, BUT IT REALLY WAS.
I THINK. IF PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE LENGTH OF TIME, YOU KNOW, SIX MONTHS, I THINK IT WAS ACTUALLY A PRETTY QUICK TURNAROUND. SO WITH WE ALSO HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT LIKE ALL OF OUR OUR STAFF, THIS IS NOT THE ONLY WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE THIS IN CHUNKS.
REEF, AND THEN MR. GEARY. MS. BAGLEY, YOU GO AHEAD. I CONTINUE TO DEFER PARTIALLY BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT WAS A VALUABLE DISCOURSE.
REFERENCES MADE IN IN RECOMMENDATION TO TO THE SO PROGRAM AND TO A PREEXISTING EVALUATION PROCESS.
CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THAT? BECAUSE THE SORT OF GENERAL STATEMENT WAS WE THINK IT'S THE STAFFING LEVEL IS FINE, BUT WHAT IS THEN BEING EXAMINED AND TO WHAT END MIGHT WE, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF A HOLISTIC APPROACH? CONSIDER CHANGES TO AUGMENTATION TO THE ROLE OF THE CSO.
OFFICER AND I ALSO ASK THAT QUESTION IN LIGHT OF THE STATEMENT BY DR.
SO I'M VERY INTERESTED TO KNOW WHAT IS THAT THAT.
PROCESS THAT WAS BEING REVIEWED? WHEN DO YOU EXPECT TO HAVE THE RESULTS OF THAT REVIEW AND WHAT DO YOU HOPE TO LEARN FROM IT? AND I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHERS, SO THAT'S WHERE I'M STARTING.
SO I WANT TO BE CLEAR IN OUR NEXT STEPS AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, ARE WE GOING TO ADDRESS EACH ONE OF THESE ITEMS? BECAUSE I WANT MY STAFF TO BE PREPARED AND WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE FOR TONIGHT, BECAUSE THAT QUESTION COULD TAKE UP A LARGE PORTION OF TONIGHT.
SO WE'VE GOT ONE THROUGH EIGHT OF THE SROS.
IS THAT GOING TO BE THE EXPECTATION? YOU WANT THAT LEVEL OF SUPPORT NOW PRIOR TO THE COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS, OR IS THIS MEETING FOR THE PURPOSE OF GIVING US THE FEEDBACK TO TAKE TO MAKE THIS MOU MORE INNOVATIVE OR CREATIVE OR MORE ROBUST OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THAT? I MEAN, I CAN I CAN ADAPT, HEART RESPOND.
HOW ARE WE GOING TO RESPOND ONE THROUGH EIGHT? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR ON THE ASK BECAUSE I'M HEARING DIFFERENT ASK AND EXPECTATIONS.
AND AGAIN, I'M GOING TO SAY I THINK SOMEONE OVER HERE SAID IT A FEW MOMENTS AGO.
YOU KNOW, I AM INTERESTED IN THE ROLE OF THE QSO AND WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING INTO.
I MEAN, I APPRECIATE IF YOU KNOW YOUR RELEVANT STAFF ISN'T HERE.
THAT'S A QUESTION I DIDN'T SEND IN ADVANCE.
OKAY, THEN THEN MY INPUT TONIGHT IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN SPELLED OUT VERY CLEARLY THAT THE QSO PLAYS A FRONT LINE ROLE BEFORE THE SRO IN INTERACTIONS WITH STUDENTS AND ADDRESSING CRIME AND VIOLENCE IN THE SCHOOL.
SO I'M I'M INTERESTED AND I'M EAGER TO LEARN MORE AND WOULD ASK THAT WHATEVER OUR NEXT WORK SESSION IS, WHATEVER YOUR HOLISTIC RESPONSE IS THAT IT IT DESCRIBES AND IT GETS INTO THAT DETAIL.
SO I'M HAPPY TO SORT OF PUT A PIN IN THAT AND LEAVE IT THERE.
SO YEAH, I THINK WE CAN ANSWER IT.
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SO I'M GOING TO SAY NO BECAUSE, BECAUSE I THINK THAT I THINK THAT IF WE WANT TO GET THROUGH NINE, THROUGH 17 AND PEOPLE WANT LIKE A FULL PRESENTATION ON THE WHOLE THING, THAT NEEDS TO BE ANOTHER MEETING.AND SO I THINK IT IS ABSOLUTELY LIKE ABSOLUTELY ASK YOUR QUESTION ABOUT.
LIKE THIS IS THE TIME TO DO THAT.
SO AND THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE DR.
ARE WE GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL ALL OF THEM OR.
SO I'M GOING TO TOSS IT TO YOU.
BUT JUST IF I COULD, I MEAN, AND I WAS RESPECTFUL AND EXCEEDED MY TIME SEVERAL TIMES.
SO I GUESS I'M ASKING THAT AND AND I'LL HOLD SOME OF MY OTHERS BECAUSE FOR ME, IT TIES INTO THE QUESTION I WAS GOING TO ASK ON THE CALL HERE TODAY, WHICH IS RECOMMENDATION ONE.
RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT'S THE FIRST ONE YOU BROUGHT UP WHICH IS ASKING COUNCIL FOR CONTINUED FUNDING.
SO FOR ME, I CAN'T MAKE THAT CHOICE IN A VACUUM.
RIGHT. LIKE IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE FUNDING.
WELL YOUR YOUR BUDGET ASK IS ALSO GOING TO INCLUDE YOUR SO SO IF YOU'RE IN THE MIDST OF EVALUATING INCREASING THAT BUDGET, DECREASING THAT BUDGET, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT FINAL NUMBER COMES BACK TO US AS ONE BIG NUMBER.
SO FOR ME, I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE I WAS LIKE KIND OF GRASPING AT AT RANDOM ITEMS. I WAS SEEING A BUDGET ITEM THAT IN A HOLISTIC APPROACH.
AND SO I'LL TIE SORT OF THE TWO THINGS TOGETHER.
MY QUESTION WITH THE PRIMARY ISSUE, WE'RE HERE APPARENTLY TO DISCUSS ON ON THE WORK WITH CITY COUNCIL TO CONTINUE SRO FUNDING THE SUB NOTE STATES WILL WILL REQUIRE CONTINUED FUNDING AT EITHER CURRENT OR ELEVATED LEVEL.
SO THERE'S A REFERENCE TO ELEVATED LEVELS.
SO MY QUESTION IS, GIVEN THAT THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY STATEMENT WAS VERY CLEAR ABOUT LACK OF SUFFICIENT DATA TO SUPPORT AND DEFINE THE IMPACT OF THE SRO PROGRAM, WHAT IS THE CALL FOR ELEVATED FUNDING AND WHAT IS THE VISION FOR ELEVATED FUNDING? IS IT INCREASED NUMBER OF OFFICERS, INCREASED HOURS OR OTHER PHYSICAL SUPPORTS FOR THOSE OFFICERS? AND SO I DO THINK THAT'S A RELEVANT PIECE OF TONIGHT'S CONVERSATION BECAUSE IT'S DIRECTLY TO THE CALL TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FUNDING.
AND SPECIFICALLY THE CALL WAS FOR EITHER CURRENT OR ELEVATED LEVELS.
THERE WAS NO CONSIDERATION TO REDUCE LEVELS.
AND SO I'M LOOKING FOR WHAT WAS THE DATA POINT, WHAT WAS THE ANALYSIS THAT LED TO EITHER CURRENT OR ELEVATED LEVELS? BECAUSE THAT'S AND I APOLOGIZE IF IT'S IN AN APPENDIX OR IT'S SOMEWHERE THAT I DIDN'T SEE IT, YOU KNOW, BUT I DIDN'T SEE.
SO WHAT IS THE DATA POINT OR THE ANALYSIS THAT LED TO THE CALL FOR ELEVATED FUNDING? ALL RIGHT, DR. HART, I'M GOING TO TOSS IT TO YOU AT THIS POINT.
SO I FEEL LIKE I ACTUALLY HEARD A FEW QUESTIONS THAT I'M GOING TO TRY MY BEST TO RESPOND TO TONIGHT.
FOR CLARITY, WHAT WAS NOTED IS THAT WE HAVE A POLICY OF SOS RESPONDING BEFORE SROS.
WHAT I WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN IS MORE SO THE HOLISTIC APPROACH IN TERMS OF THE SRO NOT BEING THE SOLE PERSONNEL OR INDIVIDUAL THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR OVERALL SCHOOL SAFETY AND CLIMATE OF SAFETY WITHIN OUR BUILDINGS THAT WE START TYPICALLY, OF COURSE, WITH ADMINISTRATION, ADMINISTRATION CAN THEN CALL ON SCHOOL SECURITY OFFICERS TO SUPPORT THEM, AND THEN SROS AS NEEDED TO HELP WITH WHATEVER THE SITUATION MAY BE IF IT IS ELEVATING BEYOND THE CAPABILITIES OF BOTH STAFF.
AND IN TERMS OF WHAT THE ELEVATED FUNDING MAY BE, I'M SORRY, COUNCILWOMAN BAGLEY, I'M NOT SPECIFICALLY SURE ABOUT THAT LANGUAGE, BUT I DO KNOW THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE SELECT COMMITTEE OR ADVISORY GROUP WANTED TO LOOK AT WAS THE RATIO OF CONTRACT SALES VERSUS FPSOS AND SPECIFICALLY ASKING IF STAFF WERE IF WE WERE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE CURRENT RATIO, WHICH MY TEAM AND I ARE, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY A
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CONTRACT AT QSO AND AT ACP, SO HAVE THE SAME MISSION, HAVE THE SAME GOALS AND HAVE THE SAME EXPECTATIONS.SO IT'S REALLY MORE SO JUST HOW WE GET THAT SUPPORT THERE.
THEIR OVERALL JOB DESCRIPTION IS NOT DIFFERENT.
SO FOR US IT IS, IT'S KIND OF A MOOT POINT REGARDLESS IF THERE ARE CONTRACT OR AN ACP.
SO AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE THAT THE SELECT COMMITTEE ASKED US TO TO LOOK AT.
DO NOT KNOW IF THE MOST QUALIFIED BIDDER WILL COME IN AT A COST THAT IS HIGHER THAN OUR CURRENT CONTRACT, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A DIFFERENT CALIBER OF OVERALL OFFICER AND PROGRAM AS WE PUSH THIS NEEDLE FORWARD WHEN IT COMES TO SAFETY.
SO I'M SORRY I TRIED TO TAKE NOTES AS THE VARIOUS PARTS OF THE CONVERSATION WERE ONGOING AND I AM HAPPY TO STOP AND SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT I CAN SUPPORT REGARDING THE SOP PROGRAM.
SO WHETHER I SAID THE WRONG POLICY VERSUS PROGRAM, THAT'S THE REFERENCE I WAS TRYING TO MAKE.
SO I APPRECIATE YOU CLARIFYING THAT.
BUT I GUESS I WOULD JUST WANT TO DRILL DOWN.
THE REFERENCE TO ELEVATED FUNDING WAS NOT AN ITEM TO THE CSO ITEM.
JUST JUST THE IDEA THAT THINGS COST MORE NOW AND WE MIGHT CHANGE THINGS.
THE FACT THAT ONE SAID WE'RE SATISFIED WITH CURRENT LEVELS AND THE OTHER REFERRED TO ELEVATED FUNDING, IMPLIED TO ME THAT A DIFFERENT APPROACH OR THAT WE MIGHT ASK FOR MORE IN ONE AREA, BUT WE'RE CONTENT IN THE OTHER.
SO WHETHER IT'S SIMPLY A TYPO, WHETHER, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS WORTH HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT VISION WAS WITH ELEVATED FUNDING ON ITEM ONE.
AND THE LAST POINT I JUST WANT TO THROW OUT HERE FOR THIS HOLISTIC CONVERSATION IS THAT THAT HANOVER STUDY, I BELIEVE, SAID 91% OF STUDENTS RARELY OR NEVER INTERACT WITH AN SRL.
AND I JUST THINK, LIKE SOMETIMES WHEN WE SPEND HOURS TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING AND WE INVEST SIX MONTHS OF TIME IN IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S WORTH KIND OF STEPPING BACK AND JUST SAYING THAT I'M NOT MINIMIZING THE ROLE THAT THAT THE OFFICERS PLAY AND THE VALUE THAT THEY HAVE AND THE LIVES THAT THEY INTERACT.
SO THAT'S I THINK GETTING BACK TO COUNCILMEMBER CHAPMAN'S POINT AND EVERYONE ELSE IS ABOUT THIS HOLISTIC APPROACH, BECAUSE THAT NUMBER SAYS TO ME, MOST STUDENTS AREN'T INTERACTING WITH AN SRO FOR FOR FOR GOOD OR ILL.
AND SO WE NEED MORE WE NEED BROADER APPROACHES.
AND I'M PLEASED TO HEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE VISION.
REEF. ALL RIGHT, WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE CONVERSATION, EVERYONE.
IT'S CHALLENGING. THIS IS A CHALLENGING TOPIC.
I'M GOING TO TRY TO BE AS ARTICULATE AS AS I CAN, YOU KNOW, AND I JUST WANT TO START BY SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW I'VE HAD OPPORTUNITIES TO TALK TO EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM, AND I KNOW THAT EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM HAS THE SAME GOAL.
AND ALEXANDRIA, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT THEM TO BE INVOLVED WITH THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
WE WANT THEM TO FEEL CONNECTED.
WE WANT THEM TO GET A GREAT EDUCATION.
WE WANT THEM TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
I MEAN, I KNOW EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THINK ABOUT IS HOW WE GOT HERE.
SO THE. BECAUSE I WAS ON THE BOARD WHEN THIS SORT OF ISSUE CAME UP AND THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY HAD PASSED A LAW SAYING THAT IF SCHOOL DIVISIONS HAD SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER PROGRAMS, THEY HAD TO THE SCHOOL BOARD HAD TO LOOK AT THE MOU EVERY TWO YEARS.
IT HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN EVERY FIVE YEARS.
SO THEY SHORTENED IT TO EVERY TWO YEARS AND THEY ADDED THAT THERE HAD TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FOR THE PUBLIC, FOR PUBLIC COMMENT OR FOR THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE INPUT IN THE PROCESS. AND SO THAT'S HOW THE SCHOOL BOARD BEGAN THIS PROCESS, AND IT RAISED THE PROFILE, I THINK EVEN MORE OF THE PROGRAM AND THE
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SCRUTINY OF THE PROGRAM.AND AND I THINK ALL OF THESE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING HAVE BEEN REALLY HELPFUL.
AND SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
AND EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, IS NOT GOING TO LAND IN THE SAME PLACE, I GUESS, IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, BEING 100% SATISFIED WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING, I'LL JUST SAY THAT. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, WITH WITH THE ISSUE WITH WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE FUNDING, I THINK THAT THE SLEEP ADVISORY GROUP WAS PUT TOGETHER TO KIND OF HELP US NAVIGATE THAT SITUATION.
AND WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS THAT THAT.
IT WAS THE SLEEP ADVISORY GROUP, THE SCHOOL LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERSHIP ADVISORY.
RIGHT. SO WHAT I'VE TRIED TO COMMUNICATE, I KNOW WITH WITH FOLKS WHEN I TALK IN THE COMMUNITY IS THAT THE SCHOOLS ARE GOING TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT, WHETHER THERE'S AN SRO PROGRAM OR NOT.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE THEY WERE TASKED WITH DOING THAT.
BUT IT'S LIKE WE ALL WANT A HOLISTIC WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT YOUTH SUPPORT IN A MORE HOLISTIC WAY.
SO THAT WAS, I THINK, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES COMING IN.
I THINK THE TIMELINE AGAIN, WE NEED TO UPDATE THE MOU BY JULY 1ST.
AND SO WE WE DID MAKE A LOT OF CHANGES.
THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THAT, YOU KNOW, TO ADD TO KEEP TWEAKING THAT DOCUMENT.
IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK IN TWO YEARS.
SO THIS IS NOT A YOU KNOW, WHATEVER WE DO, IT'S LIKE SET IN STONE FOREVER.
EVERY TWO YEARS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.
AND THE LAW SAYS WE HAVE TO GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC INPUT EVERY TWO YEARS.
SO THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ONGOING CONVERSATION.
I ALSO JUST WANTED TO SAY, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I ALSO HAD A SIMILAR RESPONSE.
I MEAN, I SAID THIS FROM THE DAIS.
I WOULD HAVE I HAD A DIFFERENT EXPECTATION FROM THE WORD REIMAGINING.
I DID HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK TO SOME OF THE FOLKS WHO SERVED ON THIS ADVISORY GROUP.
AND WHAT I HEARD IS THAT THEY DID HAVE SOME REALLY ROBUST CONVERSATIONS.
THEY WERE THEY WERE GIVEN A TIMELINE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GET THIS MOU UPDATED.
WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE PROGRAM NEXT YEAR.
BUT THERE WERE THINGS IN THERE THAT I THINK WE CAN WORK ON THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO BUILD FROM.
TWO THAT I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN.
AND THIS GOES BACK TO WHAT MAYOR WILSON WAS ASKING IS LIKE, HOW DO WE WHAT ARE WE DOING MOVING FORWARD? I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT WAS ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IS EXTERNAL GROUP WITH SCHOOL BOARD OVERSIGHT FOR ONGOING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
ME PERSONALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT BE A SCHOOL BOARD ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
I WOULD LOVE TO MAKE IT ABOUT SAFETY AND SCHOOL CLIMATE BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS A BIG PIECE OF THIS AND THAT'S THAT TIES INTO THE EQUITY PIECE THAT TIES INTO RESTORATIVE PRACTICES. SO I'M HOPING THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING TO GO.
AND THEY ALSO TALKED ABOUT EVALUATING NEEDS AND OPTIONS FOR ALTERNATIVE EDUCATION PROGRAMS. THIS IS SOMETHING THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT SINCE I GOT ONTO THE SCHOOL BOARD, AND WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS THAT.
KAY HAS BEEN AND HER TEAM HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT.
AND I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE BEEN DOING WORK AROUND THAT.
OUR YOU KNOW, THE SCHOOLS HAVE BEEN DOING WORK AROUND THAT.
SO THE CITY AND THE SCHOOLS ARE BOTH DOING THAT WORK.
IT INVOLVES I JUST WROTE DOWN SOME THINGS MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT, ACCESS TO COUNSELING, BULLYING PREVENTION EFFORTS OUT OF SCHOOL TIME PROGRAMING, RECREATION OPPORTUNITIES, WORK BASED LEARNING PROGRAMS, SUBSTANCE ABUSE PREVENTION, RESTORATIVE PRACTICES.
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AND THERE'S THERE'S THE SCHOOLS AND THE AND THE CITY ARE COLLABORATING ON THAT.SOMETIMES WE HAVE STUDENTS, WE REFER TO PROGRAMS OR SERVICES THROUGH THE CITY.
AND SO AS A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT.
TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THOSE THINGS.
THERE HAS BEEN AN AGENDA ITEM ON THERE FOR THE LAST THIS PAST YEAR CALLED SAFETY AND SECURITY.
AND IT'S BEEN MOSTLY ABOUT SLEEP.
BUT I SUGGEST THAT MAYBE THAT GETS BROADENED TO YOUTH SAFETY AND RESILIENCE.
AND WE USE THAT AS A WAY TO TALK ABOUT ALL THESE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE ALL WANT TO ELEVATE THAT WORK AND BUILD UPON IT AND RAISE OUR OWN AWARENESS AND OUR COMMUNITIES AWARENESS AROUND THOSE RESOURCES.
BUT AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION.
ALL RIGHT. I HAVE COUNCILMAN AGUIRRE AND THEN MS..
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORDS FROM SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER DR.
RIEF. I THINK I WOULD ALIGN MYSELF IN A LOT OF THAT COMMENTARY.
AND IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT WITH WHAT SHE STARTED OFF WITH, BECAUSE AS THE CHAIR HAS BEEN SAYING MULTIPLE TIMES, WE FOUNDATION, FOUNDATION, FOUNDATION.
BUT I THINK FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THIS IS PRETTY GOOD, THE ADDENDUM SECTION TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF A HISTORY AND BACKGROUND OF OF HOW WE KIND OF GOT TO WHERE WE ARE.
PERSONALLY, I THOUGHT THERE WAS A FEW THINGS MISSING, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
AND I FELT THAT IT LACKED A LOT OF.
A LOT OF INCLUSION, A LOT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
I'VE BROUGHT UP, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARLINGTON DID IN A SIMILAR TIMELINE.
BUT. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I LOOK AT IT AND.
AS DR. REESE SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS STARTED BACK IN OCTOBER OF 2020.
AND FROM THAT POINT WHEN WE WERE REVIEWING THE MOU, AND I THINK I'LL MAKE A COMMENTARY TO DR.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, ESPECIALLY WITH A TOPIC LIKE THIS.
THAT'S NOT REALLY HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET ENGAGEMENT AND FEEDBACK ON IT? AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WITH THE FORMATION OF THIS GROUP.
WELL, I GOT IT RIGHT HERE SOMEWHERE.
THAT'S WHEN PEOPLE AREN'T REALLY PAYING ATTENTION.
AND THEN YOU HAD ONE FULL SCHOOL WEEK FOR PEOPLE TO APPLY.
HALF OF THIS ADVISORY GROUP IS ASPS MEMBERS OR STAFF, AND THEN THAT GIVES THE COMMUNITY ABOUT FIVE DAYS, SIX DAYS TO BE ABLE TO TRY AND APPLY FOR FOR THE POSITIONS.
WELL, IT'S A DEVICE, DIVERSE GROUP OF STAKEHOLDERS.
OF COURSE, NO PERSONAL INFORMATION, JUST WHAT'S THE BREAKDOWN OF THE DEMOGRAPHICS? SO WHILE DISAPPOINTED AND FRUSTRATED IN SOME OF THESE THINGS, WHAT I CAN AGREE ON IS THAT THIS IS A FIRST STEP.
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IT GIVES US SOMEWHERE TO TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.REEF SAID WAS WAS GOOD, BECAUSE MY QUESTION WAS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, IS THIS GROUP GOING TO CONTINUE? IS THERE GOING TO BE A NEW COMMITTEE THAT'S FORMED? THE MAYOR KIND OF ALLUDED THAT TO THAT, TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS IT THAT'S MOVING FORWARD? I PERSONALLY AND I'LL GIVE DR.
HE, I BELIEVE, WAS LOOKING TO HAVE A PERMANENT COMMITTEE MOVING FORWARD AS WELL.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE A CONTINUAL ENGAGEMENT BECAUSE THINGS CHANGE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY AS WE AS WE MOVE FORWARD AT ONE TIME MIGHT BE DEALING WITH OPIOIDS, ANOTHER TIME IT MIGHT BE DEALING WITH GANGS AND OTHER TIME MIGHT BE WITH, YOU KNOW, HAVING WEAPONS TO THE SCHOOL OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE.
SO. I'M NOT GOING TO DREDGE ON ANY LONGER.
THE ONE THING THAT I WILL SAY TO TO OUR STAFF IS THAT IT'S MY FULL EXPECTATION AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE REST OF THE COUNCIL, BUT THAT ANY MOU THAT GOES FORWARD COME BEFORE US BEFORE ANY TYPE OF APPROVAL SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A FULL OVERVIEW OF IT AND WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET AN EXPLANATION FROM THINGS FROM OR FROM OUR SIDE AND AN EXPLANATION OF HOW THINGS ARE GOING TO WORK.
BY MAKING UP WHERE IT IS, BUT TOP RIGHT CORNER OR WHEREVER THE COLLECTION IS, AND IT SAYS, WHO'S DOING THIS? IS IT ADMINISTRATION? IS IT A TEACHER? Y'ALL REALLY HAVE TO SEPARATE THAT OUT.
YOU CAN'T JUST HAVE ONE BOX AND SAY IT'S ADMINISTRATION SLASH TEACHER.
IF THIS AROSE, WERE BEING USED IN A DISCIPLINARY WAY.
WHO'S DOING IT? IS IT THE ADMINISTRATOR OR IS IT THE TEACHER? NOW, IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO DOWN AND DESEGREGATE IT LATER, FINE.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, IS IT THE ADMINISTRATOR OR IS IT THE TEACHERS? I DON'T HAVE TO KNOW THEIR NAMES.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT AT ALL BY ANY MEANS.
BUT I GUESS WE GET INTO MORE DATA COLLECTION AT SOME OTHER POINT.
ALL RIGHT, DR. HART, YOU HAD TO RESPONSE.
DR. HART, I THINK YOU HAVE A RESPONSE FOR MR. GARY COUNCIL MEMBER.
YES, JUST JUST A FEW POINTS OF CLARITY REGARDING SOME OF THE PROCESS PIECE THAT WAS NOTED.
I DO WANT TO SAY THAT PART OF THE REASON WHY THE APPLICATION PROCESS FOR THE ROUTE WHICH WAS OPEN FOR 11 FULL DAYS, THE REASON WHY THAT WAS DONE IS BECAUSE ORIGINALLY OUR INTENTION WAS TO GET APPROVAL IN MARCH.
WE HAD TO GO BACK AND MAKE SOME REVISIONS TO THE PROPOSAL, WHICH WE WERE NOT ABLE TO BRING BACK TO THE BOARD UNTIL LATE APRIL, AND UNDERSTANDING THAT WE DID NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS AT LEAST SIX MONTHS OF TIME FOR THE GROUP TO START MEETING.
WE DID HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE APPLICATION PROCESS DID NOT NECESSARILY, I GUESS, LENGTHEN THE TIME OR SHORTEN THE TIME THAT THE ACTUAL COMMITTEE WOULD BE ABLE TO MEET.
IN THAT 11 DAYS WE DID RECEIVE 58 APPLICATIONS AND THIS INFORMATION WAS SHARED VIA A BOARD BRIEF.
SO EVERYTHING IN TERMS OF TRANSPARENCY WITH THE PROCESS, WE SUBMITTED A NUMBER OF BOARD BRIEFS, COMPLETED A NUMBER OF PRESENTATIONS ON THE OVERALL PROCESS, ON THE OVERALL STATUS OF THE PROCESS, ON THE APPLICATION PROCESS TO INCLUDE THE FULL LIST OF MEMBERSHIP, WHICH WAS PUBLISHED ON JULY 8TH OF 2022.
SO IT DID INCLUDE SCHOOL MEMBERS, BUT THE MAJORITY OF MEMBERS WERE ACTUALLY NOT ACPS STAFF.
ONE OF THE REVISIONS THAT WE MADE FROM THE MARCH TO APRIL VERSION OF THE PROPOSAL WAS TO GO FROM 12 TO 16 MEMBERS ON THE CORE ADVISORY GROUP TEAM, AND WE ALSO ADDED ADDITIONAL POSITIONS ON THE SUBCOMMITTEES THAT WERE SPECIFICALLY FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, FAMILIES AND OTHERS AND WERE NOT SLATED FOR A STAFF MEMBER.
SO THE OVERALL MAKEUP OF THE SELECT COMMITTEE WAS ACTUALLY MORE SO COMMUNITY THAN IT WAS A STAFF.
SO I JUST WANTED TO ALSO CLARIFY THAT BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAJOR CHANGES THAT WE MADE BETWEEN THE VERSIONS OF THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL THAT CAME OUT IN MARCH, IN THE FINAL PROPOSAL THAT WE RECEIVED CONSENSUS ON IN APRIL.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THOSE POINTS FOR CLARIFICATION.
AND THE CORE GROUP WAS STILL 16 PEOPLE, SEVEN OF WHICH WERE STAFF.
ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO GO TO MARY.
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MADAM CHAIR, I HAD ONE LAST THING TO TO SAY THEN, SINCE WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TIMELINES.SO IN ARLINGTON, THERE WAS A SCHOOL BOARD WORK SESSION ON SEPTEMBER 3RD.
SEPTEMBER 24TH, THERE WAS INFO ITEM.
OCTOBER 9TH. APPLICATIONS OPENED FOR THEIR.
NOVEMBER 9TH, A FULL MONTH FOR APPLICATIONS CLOSED.
NOVEMBER 10TH SELECTION BEGAN.
WORKGROUP WAS PRESENTED FOR APPROVAL OF THE SCHOOL BOARD DECEMBER 9TH.
THE WORKGROUP WAS ASSEMBLED JANUARY 13TH.
COMMUNITY SESSIONS CONTINUED FROM JANUARY THROUGH JUNE.
ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO MAYOR.
CAN I PUT MAYOR WILSON IN? AND THEN I'M GOING TO GO TO OK.
HE'S TELLING ME TO GO TO YOU, MS..
I GUESS I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF PICK UP ON THE CONVERSATION THAT DR.
REEF HAD STARTED ABOUT WHERE DO WE GO NEXT AND WHAT DO WE WANT TO SEE? AND ONE OF THE PIECES THAT I REALLY LIKE THAT YOU RAISED WAS KIND OF THIS POINT AROUND ONGOING CONVERSATION AND LEVERAGING THE THE DIFFERENT BODIES AND OPPORTUNITIES WE ALREADY HAVE. I GUESS WHAT I WOULD WANT TO FIGURE OUT, WHETHER IT'S IN THIS MEETING OR WE FIND A WAY TO DO THIS AT A LATER POINT IS I THINK WHAT IS VERY CLEAR FROM THIS CONVERSATION IS THAT WE'RE NOT ALL HOLDING THE SAME THING, WHETHER THAT'S HOW WE ALL DEFINE REIMAGINE, WHETHER THAT'S HOW WE ALL DEFINE COMPREHENSIVE, HOLISTIC, WHATEVER THE WORD IS.
I THINK WE'VE ALL USED SOME VERSION OF IT.
AND LET'S NOT BE CLEAR ON WHAT THOSE DEFINITIONS ARE, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO OUR STAFF AND I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO IF WE TASK ANOTHER COMMUNITY GROUP TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THIS. AND SO AT SOME POINT I WOULD JUST RAISE THAT FOR ME.
THEN WHAT WOULD IT TAKE FOR US ALL TO BE CLEAR ON? LIKE WHAT ARE THE DEFINITIONS FOR HOW WE DEFINE THIS WORK, WHAT ARE THE EXPECTATIONS, AND THEN WHO'S GOING TO BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR PRESENTING THAT.
SO THEN WE CAN CHARGE, WHETHER IT'S STAFF OR A COMMUNITY GROUP OR IT'S ONE OF OUR EXISTING SUBCOMMITTEES, TO ACTUALLY COME BACK AND WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION WHERE, NO, WE WON'T ALL HAVE THE SAME IDEA FOR IT, BUT WE ALL AT LEAST ALL BE COMING IN WITH THE SAME EXPECTATION FOR IT.
YEAH, I NO, THIS IS THIS HAS BEEN A GOOD.
THIS HAS BEEN A GOOD CONVERSATION, AND I PARTICULARLY THANK DR.
RIEF FOR HER COMMENTS BECAUSE I THINK THEY WERE THEY WERE CONSTRUCTIVE AND KIND OF GETTING TO WHERE I WAS TRYING TO HEAD AT THE BEGINNING, AROUND AROUND HOW WE HOW WE BUILD A STRUCTURE FOR FOR GOING TO THE NEXT STEP.
AND IT IT IT DOES STRIKE ME AND I WANT TO BE CLEAR RIGHT AND I SAID IT AT THE TIME LIKE I WAS, I WAS NOT HAPPY ABOUT THE PROCESS THAT WE LAID OUT AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS. I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT.
AND PART OF THE REASON I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN OUR KIDS ARE SMALL, RIGHT WHEN WE WALK ACROSS THE STREET TOGETHER, WE HOLD HANDS BECAUSE WE WANT TO REACH THE SAME PLACE TOGETHER THAT WE WANT TO GET TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET AT THE SAME TIME TOGETHER.
AND I THINK WE YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS YOU GUYS SET UP A GROUP.
WE HAVE THE RESULTS OF THE GROUP, I THINK, TO MR. L NEWBIES COMMENTS EARLIER.
I THINK WE HAVE SOME OF THE LIKE THE MENU, IF YOU WILL, OF OF WHAT OPTIONS LOOK LIKE.
BUT I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD RESULT.
MAYBE MS.. GASKINS WAS TOUCHING ON THIS A LITTLE BIT.
AND SO OR AT LEAST WE'RE A CONSENSUS VERSION OF OF THE TWO BODIES IS.
SO I THINK PROBABLY A BETTER WAY TO APPROACH THIS WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TWO AND TWO, RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, TWO FROM BOTH BODIES.
AND WE HAVE TO BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT WHICH TWO ON BOTH BODIES THAT ARE SITTING THROUGH A PROCESS WITH THE STAFFS KIND OF LOOK, DRAWING ON THAT THAT MENU OF OPTIONS, LOOKING AT OTHER MODELS AND COMING UP WITH A STRUCTURE AS THEY CONSULT WITH THE TWO BODIES, COMING UP WITH A STRUCTURE THAT THAT THEY BELIEVE REPRESENTS KIND OF WHERE THE EQUILIBRIUM OF THE TWO BODIES IS.
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FROM NOW. AND YOU GUYS SAY, HEY, WE HAVE THIS GREAT IDEA THAT WE'VE COME UP WITH AND IT FALLS FLAT AND KIND OF FALLS INTO THIS MORASS HERE.SO I THINK HAVING SOME WAY TO KEEP THAT PROCESS CLOSELY BOUND WITH THE TWO BODIES IS PROBABLY THE THE BEST WAY TO DO IT AND PERHAPS THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT SO THAT WE'RE NOT HERE AGAIN.
PROBABLY. UM, YEAH, 100% AGREE.
ONE OF THE THINGS. SO ONE OF THE I DON'T THINK THIS IS SOMETHING YOU GIVE BACK TO A COMMUNITY GROUP BECAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T THINK I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME STRUGGLE THAT THE GROUP THAT WE ALREADY PUT TOGETHER IS GOING TO HAVE.
AND SO I GUESS ON THAT, MY ONLY LITTLE BIT OF COUNTER TO THAT IS ONE THING THAT I'VE BEEN WONDERING IS THAT WE HAVE VARIOUS COMMITTEES IN EXISTENCE WHO ARE WHO ARE WORKING ON SOME OF THESE THINGS.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE EVEN THINK ABOUT LEDGERX LEVERAGING INDIVIDUALS ON LIKE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S SOMEBODY FROM THE SCHOOL HEALTH ADVISORY BOARD, SOMEONE FROM THE THE FAMILY YOUTH COLLABORATIVE BECAUSE THERE'S WORK GOING ON.
AND I THINK MAYBE PART OF THE SOLUTION IS BRINGING ALL OF THAT WORK TOGETHER.
AND WE HAVE PEOPLE IN ADVISORY COMMITTEES WHO ARE ALREADY DOING THINGS.
SO AGAIN, I DO THINK ABSOLUTELY.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TWO BOARD MEMBERS, TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND THEN MAYBE ALSO THEN LEVERAGING PEOPLE FROM EXISTING ADVISORY COMMITTEES WHO CAN.
THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT.
MR. MCPIKE, I THINK THAT I CAN'T TELL IF I'M ON ON THIS ONE OR NOT.
IF WE CAN FIND A WAY TO GET ALL FOUR PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES ON THIS TOGETHER TO DISCUSS IT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT AND SORT OF CREATING THE HARMONY THAT WE'LL NEED TO GET TO A GOOD CONCLUSION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SUGGESTIONS? COMMENTS.
SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD STEP AND IT'S A BIG STEP.
HIM WORK ON? I WAS GOING TO SAY. BUT.
WORK ON PUTTING THAT GROUP TOGETHER AND THEN I THINK.
I THINK. BUT YOU KNOW, THE CHARGE THEN IS WITH THE GROUP.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE GROUP BECOMES IN CHARGE AND, YOU KNOW, DRIVES, YOU KNOW, HOW WE MOVE FORWARD.
BETWEEN US AND AND WITH KNOWING.
I THINK LIKE WITH ALL COMMITTEES, I THINK WE ALL HAVE TO.
LET GO AND LET THEM DO THEIR THING AND JUST.
WHAT IS THAT HARD WITH GAS GOING LIKE? OH, ALL RIGHT.
SO MR. MAYOR AND I ARE TASKED WITH THAT.
AND THE FIRST WILL BE SOLICITATIONS.
WHO WANTS TO JOIN? I ALREADY GOT ONE. AND MY TEXT, SO I'M SURE THERE'LL BE OTHERS.
SO YOU HAVE. OH, YES, MR. JACKSON. THANK YOU.
TO WHAT? ASHLEE SIMPSON BARED, I THINK SAID EARLIER CONCERNING THE TRIAD MODEL, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED AT THIS AT THE BOARD LEVEL AT ALL IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS I'VE BEEN READING THROUGH EVERYTHING AGAIN.
AND SO SO I KNOW IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED WITH STAFF.
I THINK AT THE BOARD LEVEL WE DISCUSSED EVERYTHING.
WE WENT THROUGH PAGE BY PAGE AT THE STAFF.
SO LOOKING AT OPTIONS, IS THAT IS IS THAT AN OPTION AT THE FOREFRONT? I'M JUST THINKING SHE SHE THREW IT OUT THERE.
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SO THAT'S A PART OF OUR FRIDAY MEETING THAT'S COMING.THAT SOUNDS LIKE A PRETTY GOOD.
SO I THINK WE GOT PARALLEL TRAINS RUNNING.
I JUST LEAVE AND ASK HERE FOR I THINK.
DOCTOR. DOCTOR, WE'VE TALKED ON THIS A COUPLE OF MINUTES AGO.
RECOMMENDATION 15 AROUND ALTERNATIVE EDUCATION AT AT SOME POINT AND IN WRITING, WHATEVER, OR MAYBE AT A FUTURE CITY SCHOOLS MEETING, I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO GET AN UPDATE ON KIND OF WHERE WHERE THINGS ARE.
AND I DON'T THINK THE LAST TIME I THINK THE LAST TIME I TALKED WITH AROUND ALTERNATIVE EDUCATION WAS WHEN WHEN YOU GUYS LEASED A BUILDING THAT WE HAD JUST APPROVED A LAND USE APPROVAL FOR AN OLD TOWN AND TOOK AWAY FROM US AND CAUSED A WHOLE BIG SCREW UP.
BUT THAT WAS YEARS AND YEARS AGO.
SO YEAH, AT SOME POINT IF SOMEONE COULD JUST GET US UPDATE ON WHERE WE WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT'S NEXT.
WE'VE IMPLEMENTED A FEW CHANGES THIS YEAR AND WE HAVE A BIGGER PLAN.
THAT'D BE GREAT. I JUST DON'T HAVE TO DO IT NOW.
AT SOME POINT I'D LOVE TO GET A FULL UPDATE, SO.
YEAH. CITY SCHOOLS WOULD BE GREAT. YEAH.
IN A FUTURE MEETING, WHENEVER YOU GUYS ARE READY.
YEAH, WHENEVER YOU GUYS ARE READY. YEAH.
I MEAN, THAT COULD BE A PART OF THE HIGH SCHOOL PROJECT.
I KNOW WE TALK ABOUT IT AS A FACILITIES, BUT IT'S THE.
I'M JUST CURIOUS. I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THINGS STAND RIGHT NOW, SO.
SO WE'RE GOING TO GET OURSELVES A TIMELINE AND.
SO BUT. WE HAVE THE HARD PART TO FIGURE OUT, SO WE'LL WORK ON THAT.
ALL RIGHT. SEE YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.