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ALL RIGHT, EVERYONE, WE'RE GOING TO GET STARTED.

[Call the Work Session to Order]

[1. FY 2024 Budget Calendar, Budget Process Resolution and Rules of Engagement]

WELCOME TO THE FY 2024 BUDGET CALENDAR, BUDGET PROCESS RESOLUTION AND RULES ENGAGEMENT WORK SESSION.

AND I SEE MR. TURNER HERE. WELCOME, MR. TURNER.

HELLO, DR. GONZALES.

I SEE YOU AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO GET STARTED AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO DR.

KAY. WHAT? ALL RIGHT.

THERE WE GO. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

AT ME. ARE WE GOOD? YEAH. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE TONIGHT.

SO GETTING FEEDBACK.

OKAY. I WILL TRY TO DO THIS.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. SO THIS EVENING, ACTUALLY, WE ARE HERE TO REVIEW THE BUDGET PROCESS AND THE RESOLUTION FOR THAT.

I'M SORRY. I'M GETTING A LOT OF FEEDBACK HERE.

OH, THANK YOU. IS IT? THIS ONE'S NOT ON.

AND I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MR. TURNER TO LEAD US THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

OF COURSE, THEY WILL HAVE SOME TIME FOR QUESTION AND ANSWERS, BUT WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT PROCESS GOING THROUGH THIS COLLABORATIVE PROCESS AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS BUDGET SEASON.

SO THANK YOU, MR. TURNER. MR. TURNER IS LAUGHING.

I'M HAVING MICROPHONE ISSUES OVER HERE, MR. TURNER, SO YOU CAN SAVE ME ANY TIME.

WE. WE CANNOT HEAR MR. TURNER. I WAS NEEDED.

SORRY. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? I THINK WHEN THERE'S MORE THAN ONE MIC ON IN THE ROOM, I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S PROVIDING THE FEEDBACK BECAUSE I'M HEARING IT ON MY END AS WELL.

BUT YES, WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO GO THE BUDGET PROCESS RESOLUTION, THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT, AS WELL AS THE BUDGET CALENDAR.

I KNOW WE RECEIVED A FEW QUESTIONS AND A FEW RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE BUDGET CALENDAR.

HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANYTHING FOR THE PROCESS RESOLUTION OR THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT.

BUT IF WE WANT TO GO THROUGH THOSE FIRST, IF THERE ARE ANY SUGGESTED CHANGES, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

WE CAN INCORPORATE THOSE PRIOR TO THE ADOPTION OF THE NEXT SCHOOL BOARD MEETING.

IF NOT, WE CAN MOVE RIGHT INTO THE CALENDAR BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WERE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SOME CHANGE DATES ON THE CALENDAR.

I'LL TOSS IT TO VICE CHAIR GREEN.

THANK YOU, MR. TURNER. YEAH, YOU CAN GO THROUGH QUICKLY.

THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT AND THE RESOLUTION BEFORE MOVING INTO THE BUDGET CALENDAR.

SO THE PROCESS, THE BUDGET PROCESS, RESOLUTION AND THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT, THERE'S NO CHANGES THERE.

WE'VE UPDATED THEM FROM LAST YEAR TO BE ABLE TO JUST HAVE THE NEW YEARS IN THERE.

BUT WE HAVE SUBMITTED NO CHANGES TO THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT OR THE PROCESS RESOLUTION.

SO IT'S EVERYTHING THE SAME FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

SO THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT JUST GOVERNS THE INTERACTIONS BETWEEN THE SUPERINTENDENT STAFF AND THE SCHOOL BOARD ON THE PROCESS.

RESOLUTION IS JUST AN OUTLINE FOR THE BUDGET PROCESS FOR HOW WE MOVE FROM A PROPOSED BUDGET APPROVED BUDGET AND THEN FINAL ADOPTED BUDGET.

OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE? BEFORE WE MOVE INTO THE CALENDAR DISCUSSION.

WAS EVERYBODY GOOD? ALL RIGHT. WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE CALENDAR THEN, MR. TURNER. OKAY.

SO FOR THE BUDGET CALENDAR, TWO OPTIONS WERE PRESENTED IN JUNE PRIOR TO THE END OF FISCAL YEAR 2022.

THOSE CALENDARS, WE HAVE ONE CALENDAR OPTION UP FOR YOU TODAY.

THERE HAVE BEEN QUESTIONS OR SUGGESTIONS FOR NEW DATES.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL WANT ME TO GO THROUGH THOSE OR IF YOU WOULD WANT EACH MEMBER TO SAY WHAT THEIR SUGGESTIONS ARE.

AND I'LL JUST START WITH ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE POSSIBLE.

BUT WITH EVERYTHING THAT ALWAYS COMES TRADE OFFS.

SO IF WE WANT TO GO THROUGH THEM, WE CAN LIST WHAT THE TRADE OFFS ARE.

AND THEN I'M ALL ABOUT INFORMED CONSENT SO OUR TEAM CAN MAKE ALL OF THIS HAPPEN.

IT'S JUST THAT THERE'S TRADE OFFS WITH ANY OF THOSE THINGS.

SO DO YOU WANT ME TO RUN THROUGH WHAT WAS SUBMITTED OR DO YOU WANT EACH MEMBER TO SAY WHAT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS WERE? I THINK WE'LL LET EACH MEMBER GO THROUGH THEIR CHANGES.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE TRADE OFFS FROM YOU, MR. TURNER, AS THEY GO THROUGH THEM.

YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL START WITH MS.. BOO'S.

YEAH. THANK YOU.

AND I KNOW DURING A PREVIOUS BOARD MEETING IN JUNE, I HAD, AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE CALENDAR, TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE CHANGES JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING BIG DEADLINES FOR BOARD MEMBERS THE THE DAY AFTER A MEETING THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO GO THROUGH THE BOARD BOOK.

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THIS LAST YEAR WE JUST HAD THE PERFECT STORM WHERE WE LITERALLY HAD A WINTER STORM THAT CLOSED DOWN THE BUILDING.

AND SO WE COULDN'T EVEN GET ACCESS TO THE BOARD BOOKS, BUDGET BOOKS.

SO JUST TALKING ABOUT JANUARY TO JANUARY AND FEBRUARY AT THIS POINT.

SO I WAS TRYING TO LOOK AT WAYS THAT WE COULD STILL HONOR FINISHING THE BUDGET BEFORE THE CITY MANAGER PRESENTS HIS BUDGET AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STILL BUILDING IN AS MUCH TIME IN BETWEEN SOME OF THE MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE OR SOME OF THE DUE DATES THAT WE HAVE. SO QUESTIONS ARE DUE ON ONE ON A THURSDAY, THEN IT'S THE FOLLOWING THURSDAY, ONE WEEK THAT WE'RE GIVING STAFF TIME.

SINCE I KNOW ANSWERING QUESTIONS AND SOME AND DEALING WITH ADULTS CAN TAKE A LOT OF TIME.

SO IN THE PROPOSAL THAT I SENT AND I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN SHARE MY SCREEN OR IF YOU WANT TO SHARE THE SCREEN JUST SO FOR THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO SEE TO SORT OF BEING OPEN, IT GIVES GAVE A FEW OPTIONS.

I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THE TRADE OFFS.

I MEAN, THE ONE OF THE ONE OF THE SITUATIONS THAT WAS REALLY MOVING UP THE THE ONE OF THE WORK SESSIONS AND HAVING TWO WORK SESSIONS IN ONE WEEK, I DON'T KNOW WHAT EXTRA BURDEN THAT PUTS ON STAFF TO HAVE TWO MEETINGS IN A WEEK.

I KNOW THAT. I KNOW BOARD MEMBERS PROBABLY DON'T WANT TO HAVE TWO MEETINGS IN A WEEK.

I ALSO KNOW THAT THIS IS KIND OF THE UNIQUE TIME OF THE YEAR WHEN WE'RE DOING THE BUDGET.

BUT I WAS TRYING TO GO WITH A COUPLE CONCEPTS LIKE I DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO SUBMIT OUR QUESTIONS UNTIL WE'VE FINISHED THOSE FIRST TWO WORK BUDGET WORK SESSIONS.

I KNOW DR. RIEF HAS SHARED AND I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH HER THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE SUBMITTING OUR QUESTIONS ALSO UNTIL WE'VE HAD THAT PUBLIC HEARING.

SO WE'RE ALSO LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY A LITTLE BIT MORE BEFORE WE SUBMIT THOSE QUESTIONS.

SO THOSE WERE SOME OF THE DIFFERENT CONCEPTS TO AND ALSO JUST KEEP IT IN MIND THAT SOME OF US, A LOT OF US HAVE FULL TIME JOBS, TOO.

SO, YOU KNOW, HAVING A QUICK TURNAROUND DEADLINE DOESN'T GIVE US A LOT OF TIME SOMETIMES TO REALLY DO THE WORK THAT WE NEED TO DO FOR A CRITICAL POSITION THAT WE HAVE AS A BOARD TO BE OVERSEEING THE BUDGET AND BUDGET APPROVAL.

IS IT POSSIBLE TO PUT ON THE SCREEN AS CHANGE? I CAN. I HAVE.

I'VE GOT THE POWER. ARE YOU ASKING ME TO DO THAT OR THE CLERK? I GOT IT. KELLY HAS IT.

THANK YOU. YEAH.

SO THIS IS AT LEAST SENDING AROUND JANUARY AND FEBRUARY.

AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT COMPLETELY WEDDED TO THIS.

I'D LOVE TO FIND SOME SORT OF COMPROMISE THAT MEETS THE NEEDS OF STAFF, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO PUT THIS EXTRA BURDEN ON STAFF.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S SOME TRADE OFFS AND ALSO GIVES BOARD TIME TO ADEQUATELY REALLY GET THROUGH THE BUDGET WITH WITH TIME TO REVIEW SOME OF THE CHANGES.

SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT HERE, WHAT I TRY TO DO IS SUPERIMPOSE THE CURRENT PROPOSED CALENDAR, WHICH WHERE YOU'LL SEE A COLON, THAT IS A CALENDAR THAT HAS THEIR BUDGET VERSION ONE FOR US TO REVIEW.

RIGHT NOW, THE PARTS IN PINK MAKE THIS BIGGER.

NO. THE PARTS IN PINK ARE THE ONES THAT I WAS SUGGESTING.

SO THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE NOT CHANGES.

BUT FOR EXAMPLE, JANUARY 10TH, THAT WAS ALREADY A SCHEDULED WORK SESSION, NUMBER ONE.

SORRY, THE JANUARY 12TH WAS THE ORIGINAL WORK SESSION, NUMBER ONE SCHEDULED.

I PROPOSED DOING A WORK SESSION ON TUESDAY AND THE SECOND ONE ON THURSDAY, GIVING US KIND OF A LONG WEEKEND TO SUBMIT THOSE QUESTIONS ON THE 17TH.

SO THEN YOU CAN SEE THE ORIGINAL ORIGINAL PROPOSAL HAD US DOING THE WORK SESSION, PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN OUR BOARD QUESTIONS WERE DUE IMMEDIATELY AFTER.

SO THAT WAS THE CHANGES FOR.

JANUARY. AND THEN WHAT I ALSO WANTED TO DO WAS GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF SPACE FROM WHEN STAFF POSTS THE AD DELETES BECAUSE WE HAVE TO SUBMIT OUR AD, WE HAVE TO SUBMIT OUR AD DELETES.

GO BACK. HOLD ON. OKAY.

WE HAVE TO SUBMIT OUR AD DELETES AND STAFF NEEDS TIME TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW THEM.

SO SUBMITTING THE AD DELETES ON FRIDAY OR AND THEN STAFF CAN GIVE US SOME RESPONSE RESPONSES, CO SPONSORSHIP DO AND THEN HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF TIME BEFORE WE GO INTO THAT FINAL WORK SESSION ON AD DELETES TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW WHAT WAS WHAT WAS ACTUALLY POSTED AND WHERE THOSE SPONSORSHIPS ARE DUE BEFORE WE APPROVE THE

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BUDGET ON THE. SO I WILL STOP.

AT LEAST THERE I WILL SAY THAT THE SNIPPY ONE WAS I'M SORRY, THE YEAH, THE CIP ONE WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE CHALLENGING BECAUSE WE BECAUSE OF THAT THANKSGIVING WEEK THAT IT HAS A REALLY TRUNCATES THE TIME TIMING OF IT.

SO I CERTAINLY HAD SOME QUESTIONS OF DO WE NEED TO APPROVE THE CIP BEFORE THE WINTER HOLIDAY BREAK? CAN WE FINISH THE WORK OF THE CFP AND THEN OFFICIALLY APPROVE IT IN 2023, IN JANUARY AS WELL? AND I WOULD SHARE THE CFP CALENDAR, BUT IT IS COMPLETELY WACK A DOODLE ON MY COMPUTER, SO I COULD DO THAT TO PEOPLE RIGHT NOW.

SO I WILL STOP THERE.

ALL RIGHT, MR. TURNER, IF YOU WANT TO SHARE WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN.

SO CAN DR. REEF ACTUALLY GO? BECAUSE THERE'S SOME OVERLAY BETWEEN THE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN I CAN GO AT THE END.

PERFECT, DR. REEF.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU.

I GUESS LET ME TAKE A STEP BACK HERE.

SO, MR. TURNER, YOU PRESENTED THIS INITIALLY ON JUNE 2ND, AND I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THESE CHANGES AT THAT TIME.

AND WHEN WE GOT THE THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THE MEETING TONIGHT, I WAS KIND OF SURPRISED NOT TO SEE ANY OF THE SUGGESTIONS IN THERE.

AND I KIND OF WENT BACK TO REVIEW THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD.

AND I WILL SAY THAT I WAS REMINDED AT THAT TIME THAT YOU HAD ASKED THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, YOU SAID THIS IS FOR YOU TO CONSIDER OVER THE SUMMER.

AND YOU SUGGESTED, CAN WE COME BACK WITH SOME CONSENSUS IN THE FALL? SO. AND I'LL JUST SAY, LIKE AND SOMEBODY COMMENTED, WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS AT 11:00 AT NIGHT TWO.

AND I'LL SAY THAT WE THAT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED OVER THE SUMMER.

TYPICALLY, WE DON'T DELIBERATE AND REACH A CONSENSUS OFFLINE.

WE HAVE TO DO IT AT THE DAIS AND IT HAS TO BE PUBLIC.

SO SO I YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT FROM THE OUTSET.

BUT WHAT I REALIZED JUST LOOKING JUST LOOKING AT THE CALENDAR YOU PRESENTED AND THEN I KNOW MS..

BOOZ HAD SHARED SOME WITH US.

THIS IS REALLY A CHALLENGING A CHALLENGING THING TO DISCUSS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO KIND OF RECONCILE WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING WITH THE DIFFERENT IMAGES IN FRONT OF THEM IS CHALLENGING.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.

ABSOLUTELY. YOUR TEAM, THE FINANCE TEAM, YOU ALL WORK VERY HARD EVERY YEAR TO PUT THE BUDGET TOGETHER TO ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS, CONSIDER OUR AD DELETES.

AND AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S A CRUNCH FOR YOUR TEAM.

AND LIKEWISE, THE SCHOOL BOARD REALLY TAKES OUR FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY VERY SERIOUSLY.

AND I THINK THAT WE WANT TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE AS WELL.

AND SO I THINK IT'S YOU KNOW, IT IS ON ALL OF US TO WORK TOGETHER TO FIND A CALENDAR THAT'S GOING TO MEET THE NEEDS OF BOTH THE STAFF AND THE SCHOOL BOARD.

AND SO JUST TO KIND OF BECAUSE AGAIN, I KNOW IT'S HARD, LIKE MISS BOO'S WAS WALKING THROUGH THE CALENDAR, THIS WAS THE PROBLEM.

I WAS HAVING TO WAIT.

THERE'S LIKE SO MANY MOVING PARTS HERE.

SO JUST TO RECAP THE DISCUSSION FROM JUNE, SO I HAD REQUESTED THAT PUBLIC HEARINGS BE HELD PRIOR TO THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS SUBMITTING QUESTIONS AND ADD DELETE SO THAT WE CAN JUST HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC BEFORE WE'RE ACTUALLY SUBMITTING THOSE THINGS.

AND THEN MS.. BOOSE WAS REQUESTING THAT THERE BE MORE TURNAROUND TIME AFTER THE LAST WORK SESSION BEFORE THE QUESTIONS ARE DUE, LIKE IT'S NOT THE VERY NEXT MORNING.

AND THEN SHE ALSO HAD REQUESTED MORE TIME AFTER THE AD DELETES ARE COMPILED AND PUBLIC POSTED PUBLICLY POSTED TO CONSIDER THEM BEFORE WE GO RIGHT INTO THE ADD DELETE WORK SESSION BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEY WERE POSTED THE NIGHT BEFORE AND YOU MIGHT WANT TO CHECK IN WITH A BOARD MEMBER WHO SUBMITTED AN AD DELETE AND FIND OUT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF MORE ABOUT WHERE THEY WERE COMING FROM ON THAT.

SO SO THOSE WERE THOSE WERE THE BIG THINGS WHERE I THINK THE BOARD HAS CONTINUED TO YOU KNOW, WHAT I HEARD AT LEAST FROM THE FROM THE JUNE CONVERSATION, A COUPLE OF OTHER POINTS THAT I JUST, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK AND REVIEWING THAT THAT WERE MADE THAT I THINK ARE IMPORTANT.

SO I'M GOING TO SHARE THEM NOW WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, DR.

HUTCHINGS CHAIR ALDERTON TALKED ABOUT THE BUDGET PROCESS.

WE THE BOARD HAS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS CREATED A PROCESS WHERE WE'RE A LOT MORE INVOLVED IN THE PRIORITY SETTING, WHICH I KNOW THAT MEETING IS GOING TO HAPPEN AT OUR THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OUR NEXT MEETING.

YOU ARE THE WORK SESSION IS HAPPENING AFTER OUR NEXT MEETING.

SO ON SEPTEMBER 22ND.

SO THAT'S I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY HELPFUL.

AND THEN, MR. TURNER, YOU ALSO SAID AND I THOUGHT THIS WAS REALLY AN IMPORTANT POINT, THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE BUDGET QUESTION AND ANSWERS TO SUBMIT BUDGET

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QUESTIONS SO THAT WE CAN SUBMIT QUESTIONS DURING THE YEAR ABOUT THE BUDGET IF WE HAVE THEM.

SO I DO THINK THOSE ARE TWO REALLY IMPORTANT POINTS TO STRESS.

BUT THAT SAID, I THINK WE CAN GET TO A PLACE WITH THE CALENDAR WHERE IT MEETS ALL OF OUR NEEDS.

AND I WOULD START BY LOOKING AT THE OPERATING BUDGET CALENDAR, WHICH IS A REALLY CRUCIAL ONE, THE JANUARY, FEBRUARY TIMELINE, BECAUSE THAT ONE I THINK IS THE CLOSEST TO WHAT WE'RE GOING FOR.

AND SO AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU YOU ALL I DON'T KNOW HOW WHAT YOU ALL WANT TO LOOK AT.

YOU CAN PULL UP THE LIST OR YOU CAN PULL IT UP ON YOUR OWN COMPUTERS OR THE OR THE CALENDAR THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS.

I DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW TO DO THIS, BUT BASICALLY I THINK THE TWO BIG THINGS THAT I THINK WERE THAT THAT CALENDAR COULD BE IMPROVED IS IF WE COULD MOVE THE SCHOOL BOARD BUDGET QUESTIONS.

RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE DUE ON A FRIDAY RIGHT AFTER OUR PUBLIC HEARING AND WORK SESSION TO DO THE VERY NEXT DAY AT NOON, IF WE COULD MOVE THAT TO MONDAY.

AND THEN YOUR TEAM WOULD STILL HAVE THAT FULL WEEK, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, TO WORK ON THE RESPONSES, GETTING THE RESPONSES TO THE BOARD.

SO IT'S JUST GIVING THE BOARD LIKE THE WEEKEND, WHICH PRESUMABLY HOPEFULLY YOUR STAFF'S NOT WORKING OVER THE WEEKEND.

AND THEN THE OTHER THING WAS POSTING THE THE CO SPONSORED AD DELETES THAT ARE PUBLICLY POSTED.

YOU HAVE THEM BEING POSTED ON FRIDAY, FEBRUARY, MONDAY, FEBRUARY SIX.

AND THEN WE GO RIGHT INTO THE ADD DELETE WORK SESSION THE NEXT DAY.

AND SO IF WE COULD MOVE THAT TO POSTING THEM ON FRIDAY, WHATEVER TIME IN THE EVENING THEY'RE POSTED, THEN THAT WOULD GIVE BOARD MEMBERS LIKE THE WEEKEND TO JUST KIND OF WORK THROUGH THAT BEFORE WE GO INTO THE AD DELETE SESSION ON MONDAY, FEBRUARY 6TH.

AND SO BASICALLY WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, IT LINES UP WHERE IT'S MEETING ALL THOSE THINGS IN TERMS OF THE JUST HAVING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THE WORK SESSIONS BEFORE THE QUESTIONS ARE DUE AND THEN HAVING IT LEAVES THE ADEQUATE TIME WHERE IT BASICALLY GIVES THE STAFF THE FULL WEEK TO BASICALLY ANSWER THE QUESTIONS AND THEN ALSO TO PROVIDE RESPONSES TO THE AD DELETES.

AND THEN IT GIVES THE BOARD KIND OF LIKE THE WEEKENDS TO GO THROUGH THAT BEFORE WE HAVE SOMETHING DUE ON THE MONDAY.

SO MAYBE I'LL STOP THERE AND THEN I THINK THERE'S A WAY TO TWEAK THE, THE THE CIP BUDGET AND THE COMBINED FUNDS BUDGET IN THE FALL AND THEN IN MAY.

IT'S KIND OF ALIGN WITH THAT, THAT FORMAT.

BUT I'LL STOP THERE AND SEE WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT.

MR.. SO THERE IS A LITTLE OVERLAP BETWEEN THE TWO.

I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS PRIOR TO SUBMITTING ANY QUESTIONS.

THAT IS ONE THING THAT WE TRY TO DO.

SO WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND WHEN WE LOOK INTO THE JANUARY TIMEFRAME, WE HAVE THAT PUBLIC HEARING AT THE TIME FRAME THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR PRIOR TO HAVING TO SUBMIT ANY QUESTIONS. WE ADD TWO EXTRA PUBLIC HEARINGS TO TRY TO HAVE MORE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IN THERE.

SO, ONE, IF WE WERE TO MOVE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO THE PRIOR WEEK TO HAVE IT BEFORE QUESTIONS ARE ASKED IN THE FALL, WE'D BE HAVING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE DAY THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT RELEASES OR CIP BUDGET.

SO AND THIS IS UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE ASKED TO NOT ADD ANY ADDITIONAL MEETINGS TO THE SCHOOL BOARD'S CALENDAR.

SO IF WE DO THAT, WE'D MOVE IT TO THE REGULAR SCHOOL BOARD MEETING THE WEEK BEFORE, WHICH WOULD BE WHEN THE SUPERINTENDENT IS PROPOSING HER CIP BUDGET, WHICH THEN DOESN'T GIVE THE COMMUNITY ANY TIME TO HEAR WHAT THAT BUDGET IS AND TO RESPOND TO IT.

THE SAME THING IN THE SPRING.

IF WE WERE TO MOVE IT TO THE REGULAR SCHOOL BOARD MEETING PRIOR TO THAT, THAT'S THE SAME DAY THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT WILL RELEASE HER ADJUSTED BUDGET IN THE SPRING.

SO THEN IT WOULDN'T GIVE THE COMMUNITY ANY TIME TO HEAR WHAT THAT IS AND RESPOND TO THAT AND PROVIDE YOU ALL WITH COMMENTS ABOUT WHAT IT IS.

SO YOU WOULD HAVE THE MORE TIME, BUT THEN WHAT ARE THEY? WHAT ARE THEY GIVING YOU COMMENTS ON? BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING AT THAT POINT.

SO THAT'S WHY WE HAD THE ONE IN JANUARY, IN THE WINTERTIME AT THAT TIME FRAME, BECAUSE WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE ONE.

SO BLENDING DR.

REESE AND MS..

CARMICHAEL IS SCHEDULED WITH HAVING THE WORK SESSION MOVED UP.

SO I'M TALKING CIP NOW.

SO HAVING THE CIP WORK SESSION MOVED UP INTO THE SAME WEEK, WE'D MOVE THIS SPECIAL CALLED MEETING FROM NOVEMBER 28TH UP TO THAT SAME WEEK THAT THE FIRST WORK SESSION IS.

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AND THEN YOU COULD HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING THEN.

AND THEN THAT WOULD BE A WEEK AFTER THE SUPERINTENDENT PROPOSES HER CIP.

SO THAT IS ONE AREA TO DO THAT.

THAT IS GOING TO CAUSE STAFF TO THEN HAVE TO ESSENTIALLY COMPLETE THREE PRESENTATIONS ALL AT THE SAME TIME, BECAUSE ALL OF THOSE PRESENTATIONS WILL HAVE TO BE POSTED THE WEEK BEFORE.

SO THAT IS GOING TO PUT THE BURDEN ON THE CIP TEAM TO BE ABLE TO DO ALL OF THOSE PRESENTATIONS AND THEN ALSO NOT GOING TO PROVIDE STAFF ANY TIME TO BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE ANYTHING THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS MAY HAVE SAID IN WORK SESSION ONE INTO THEIR PRESENTATION FOR WORK SESSION TWO BECAUSE BOTH OF THOSE PRESENTATIONS WILL HAVE TO BE POSTED AT THE SAME TIME THE WEEK PRIOR.

SO AT SCHOOL, BOARD MEMBERS ARE FINE WITH THAT.

NOT HAVING ANY TIME BETWEEN THE WORK SESSION TO BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE ANY INFORMATION, THOSE CHANGES WHERE THE CIP CAN BE MADE.

JUST AGAIN, UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WON'T BE ANYTHING INCORPORATED IN THE SECOND WORK SESSION THAT MAY HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED IN THE FIRST WORK SESSION FOR THE COMBINED FUNDS IN JANUARY.

THE OTHER THING WITH THE CIP WAS THE QUESTION WAS ASKED CAN THE CIP BE APPROVED ON THE SAME DAY? THE SUPERINTENDENT PROPOSES HER COMBINED FUNDS BUDGET, WHICH IS JANUARY 5TH, 2023, I BELIEVE THIS YEAR.

IF WE WERE TO DO THAT, THE YEAR THAT THERE'S AN ELECTION, WE'LL NEED TO CHANGE THAT BECAUSE THEN THE NEW SCHOOL BOARD WOULD BE COMING IN AND VOTING ON A BUDGET THAT THEY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH.

SO IF YOU MOVE THE APPROVAL OR THE SIP TO AFTER THE WINTER BREAK, A NEW SCHOOL BOARD IS GOING TO HAVE TO VOTE ON SOMETHING PRIOR TO SEEING ANYTHING. SO ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE'VE ALWAYS HAD IT PRIOR TO THE WINTER BREAK WAS.

THE SCHOOL BOARD THAT GOES THROUGH ALL THE INFORMATION IS ALSO THE SCHOOL BOARD THAT'S APPROVING IT.

SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE CIP APPROVAL WAS PRIOR TO THE WINTER BREAK, GOING TO THE COMBINED FUND BUDGET.

IF WE WANT TO MOVE UP THE WORK SESSIONS AND PUT THEM ALL IN THAT SAME WEEK.

SO THE WEEK RIGHT AFTER THE SUPERINTENDENT WILL PROPOSE HER BUDGET, WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL.

MY STAFF, HOWEVER, WE'RE THE ONLY 240 DAY EMPLOYEES THAT WORK OVER WINTER BREAK WITHOUT BEING FINANCIALLY COMPENSATED.

SO IF WE WANT TO DO THAT, I WOULD ADVOCATE FOR MY STAFF AND I TO BE MOVED FROM A 240 DAY EMPLOYEE TO A 250 DAY EMPLOYEE BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY HAVING TO WORK FOUR DAYS TO GET IT DONE RIGHT NOW WITHOUT THAT FINANCIAL COMPENSATION.

SO IF WE WERE TO MOVE THAT UP, THAT MEANS WE HAVE TO HAVE ALL OF THOSE PRESENTATIONS DONE OVER THE WINTER BREAK, ESSENTIALLY BECAUSE THEY ALL HAVE TO BE POSTED JANUARY 4TH. SO THAT WOULD BE ONE OF MY CONCERNS THERE.

AGAIN, EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE.

THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE TRADE OFFS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO.

SO IF WE WANT TO DO THAT, WE CAN DO IT.

MY TEAM IS CAN DO IT.

FOR THIS YEAR, WE WOULD HAVE TO TALK TO THEM.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE WILLING TO BE CONVERTED FROM A TO 42 TO 50 BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY SIGNED A 240 DAY CONTRACT GOING INTO NEXT YEAR.

WE WOULD JUST BUILD IT INTO THE BUDGET THAT THERE ARE 250 DAY EMPLOYEES INSTEAD OF 240 DAY EMPLOYEES.

SO AGAIN, ALL OF THAT IS POSSIBLE.

WE CAN MAKE IT WORK.

MY TEAM CAN CAN GET IT DONE.

I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO BE INFORMED ON WHAT THOSE DECISIONS ARE.

IF WE DO THAT.

ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WAS MOVING THE QUESTIONS UP OR BACK FROM SORRY, FROM FRIDAY TO MONDAY.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO DO IS WE ARE WORKING ON THAT WEEK.

AND SO WHEN WE GET THOSE QUESTIONS, THEY'RE DISSEMINATED OUT BECAUSE MOST OF THE QUESTIONS ARE PROGRAMMATIC.

SO WE HAVE TO DISSEMINATE THOSE OUT TO ALL OF THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND.

SO WE DISSEMINATE THEM OUT AS SOON AS WE GET ALL OF THEM THAT FRIDAY, AND THEN WE USE THAT ENTIRE WEEKEND AND THEN MONDAY, TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THOSE DUE TO MY OFFICE ON WEDNESDAY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW AND THEN GET TO THE SUPERINTENDENT BY THURSDAY SO WE CAN POST THEM ON THAT FRIDAY.

SO WE'D BE LOSING THREE DAYS, GETTING THEM ON THAT MONDAY.

AGAIN, IT'S POSSIBLE IF WE WANT TO DO THAT.

I WOULD ADVOCATE FOR IN THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT, CAPPING THE NUMBER OF QUESTIONS PER EACH MEMBER COMBINED FUNDS BUDGET.

WE USUALLY GET TOWARDS 100 QUESTIONS EACH, EACH GO ROUND.

SO IT TAKES A VERY LONG TIME TO TRY TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE ANSWERS TO WHAT BOARD MEMBERS ARE LOOKING FOR.

SO IF WE SHORTEN THEM, WE CAN STILL PROVIDE ADEQUATE ANSWERS IF WE CAP THE NUMBER OF QUESTIONS THAT EACH MEMBER HAS.

SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE TRADE OFFS THAT THAT WE HAVE.

AGAIN, WE PUT A LOT OF EFFORT.

WE WORK WITH THE BACK TO BE ABLE TO TRY TO GET THE CALENDAR THAT'S BEFORE YOU NOW, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANTED TO DO IS MOVE IT UP IN FRONT OF THE CITY MANAGER'S PROPOSED BUDGET.

SO WE WORK WITH THEM TO TRY TO BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN DO THAT.

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WE KNOW THAT YOU ALL WANT TO HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING PRIOR TO HAVING TO ASK YOUR QUESTIONS.

SO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE PRIOR TO YOU ALL ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS.

SO ALL OF THE THINGS THAT ARE IN THERE, WE KNOW THE TIME IS TIGHT, BUT WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE STAFF HAS TIME TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE YOU ALL WITH ADEQUATE INFORMATION, QUALITY INFORMATION FOR YOU ALL TO MAKE YOUR DECISIONS.

IF WE SHORTEN OUR TIME, THEN IT CHANGES.

IT CHANGES A LITTLE BIT.

IF WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF QUESTIONS, THEN IT PROVIDES US WITH LESS TIME TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

IF WE'RE MOVING ALL THE PRESENTATION PRESENTATIONS UP INTO THE SAME WEEK, THEN THAT MAKES IT SO.

A STAFF WILL HAVE TO WORK OVER THE WINTER BREAK.

SO AGAIN, EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE AND MY TEAM IS WILLING TO BE ABLE TO DO ANY OF THIS WHAT YOU ALL WANT.

IT JUST COMES WITH THOSE TRADE OFFS.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S INFORMED ON THAT.

SO WE'LL DO IT.

JUST WANT TO PUT EVERYTHING ON THE TABLE.

THANKS. MADAM VICE CHAIRMAN, MAY I JUST ADD TO WHAT MR. TURNER SAID? I WANT TO BE MINDFUL.

I APPRECIATE ALL THE REQUESTS, BUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A DIFFERENT WORKLOAD FOR THE STAFF.

AND MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS AROUND A CONTRACT CHANGE MIDYEAR.

EVEN IF WE COMPENSATE THEM, WE'VE GOT TO THINK ABOUT IF WE DO WHATEVER COMPENSATION NOW OR CONTRACT CHANGE AT THIS POINT, IS THAT GOING TO STICK FOR NEXT YEAR? RIGHT. WE NEED TO THINK THAT'S A LONG TERM IMPACT FOR A CALENDAR THAT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT NEXT YEAR.

SO I JUST WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THE BUDGET, BUT TO HAVE OUR STAFF WORK OVER SPRING BREAK I'M SORRY, SPRING BREAK, NOT SPRING. I'M JUMPING AHEAD.

WE'RE AT THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR OVER WINTER BREAK AND TRYING TO MAKE THEM A 250 DAY CONTRACT.

MID-YEAR RECRUITMENT EFFORTS ARE REALLY TOUGH RIGHT NOW AND THAT STAFF HAS BEEN TREMENDOUS AND AMAZING TO DO THE WORK IN THE PAST.

I JUST WOULD HATE TO ASK THEM FOR WHAT WE'VE BEEN THROUGH RECENTLY AND WHAT THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE COMING TO ACTUALLY HAVE THEM COME IN OVER THAT BREAK TO DO THIS.

AND I KNOW EARLIER WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SOMEONE SAID, DO THEY WORK OVER THE WEEKENDS WHEN IT'S BUDGET SEASON? HIS TEAM WORKS NONSTOP.

SO I JUST WANT TO PUBLICLY SAY THAT BECAUSE WE THINK THAT WHILE WE COME TO A FRIDAY EVENING OR SATURDAY, THERE ARE MANY CALLS AND CONVERSATIONS THAT HAPPEN TO MAKE THIS BUDGET GO INTO EFFECT. BUT THE CALENDAR THAT'S IN PLACE.

SO I JUST WANT TO BE MINDFUL BECAUSE OUR STAFF IS DEDICATED TO IT, THEY WILL GET IT DONE.

BUT PLEASE JUST BE MINDFUL IN OUR DECISIONS MOVING FORWARD OF HOW HARD THEY ALREADY WORK AND NOW TO HAVE THEM WORK THROUGH THOSE OFF DAYS.

I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO PROTECT THEM AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE IF WE CAN.

GREAT. THANK YOU, MR. TURNER.

THANK YOU, DR. KAY WYATT.

I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.

MISS IGNACIO. SO I JUST HAVING HAVING BEEN ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS PARTICULAR PROCESS, WE HAVEN'T ALWAYS HAD TWO WEEKS OFF FOR CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY, AND I'M GLAD THAT WE DO.

I DO KNOW WE COULD PROBABLY DO A PER DIEM TYPE THING TO PAY PEOPLE.

HOWEVER, I'M WONDERING IF THERE IS A WAY TO INCORPORATE THE BOARD'S.

POSITION ON POSITIONS THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS OF BUILDING THIS BUDGET SO THAT WE AREN'T WAITING UNTIL WE'RE SUBMITTING 20 OR 30 QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A BUDGET ADVISORY GROUP.

PERHAPS THAT COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR STAFF AND FOR DOCTOR QUIET TO HEAR SOME OF THE BOARD'S PRIORITIES. BUT I ALSO FEEL AS THOUGH WE'RE MISSING THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE IN THE SCHOOL.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY, BUT WE'RE NOT REALLY BEING TOLD WHAT IT IS THAT OUR LEADERS AND OUR BUILDINGS ARE SAYING THEY NEED.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE I STRUGGLE, BECAUSE WE'RE ASSUMING.

THAT THEY NEED THINGS, BUT WE'RE NOT IN THAT BUILDING.

AND EACH BUILDING IS VERY DIFFERENT AND EACH BUILDING IS VERY UNIQUE AND EACH BUILDING HAS VERY DIFFERENT NEEDS.

THERE ARE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS THAT MAY NEED MORE SECURITY THAN ANOTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO FIND A WAY TO INCORPORATE OUR CONVERSATION, WHETHER IT BE WITH OUR ONE TO ONES WITH DOCTOR QUIET, WHETHER IT BE DURING THE BUDGET ADVISORY PROCESS TO ACTUALLY HEAR WHAT IT IS OUR CHILDREN IN THE SCHOOLS NEED. WHAT IT IS THAT OUR LEADERS THAT ARE DEALING DAY TO DAY WITH THE EFFECTS OF COMING BACK AFTER COVID, A PANDEMIC, ANOTHER SITUATION COMING THROUGH MONKEY.

I MEAN, THERE'S SO MANY THINGS GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

WHAT IS IT THAT THEY NEED AND THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY HEAR AN ADVOCATE?

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FOR WHAT THEY NEED.

AND NOT OVERWORK STAFF BECAUSE THAT'S ANOTHER.

THAT YOU JUST DON'T YOU DON'T WANT TO DO.

PEOPLE HAVE FAMILIES.

PEOPLE HAVE COMMITMENTS.

PEOPLE DESERVE TO HAVE A BREAK.

SO HOW DO WE INCORPORATE THAT? AND I AM 100% IN AGREEMENT WITH THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON FOR US TO SUBMIT AS MANY QUESTIONS AS WE WANT.

I MEAN, WE AS A AS A BODY AND AS A GROUP SHOULD BE ABLE THROUGH CONVERSATION AND CONVERSATIONS AND ONE TO ONES THROUGH THE BUDGET ADVISORY, BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH.

QUESTIONS THAT.

WE FEEL ARE NOT NECESSARILY RELATIVE TO US PERSONALLY, BUT WHAT IS IT THAT OUR SCHOOLS ARE ASKING FOR? WHAT IS IT THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS ASKING FOR AND WHAT IS IT THAT OUR CHILDREN NEED? AND HOW DO WE MAKE THAT HAPPEN AND STILL KEEP DOMINIQUE AND HIS TEAM FROM NOT DROWNING? THAT'S. THAT WAS A LONG STATEMENT, BUT.

HOW I FEEL. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, MR. MATTHEW.

MR. TURNER. I JUST WANTED TO REASSURE ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT ALL OF OUR PRINCIPALS AND SCHOOL LEADERS ARE VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN THE BUDGET PROCESS.

WE CAN'T PUT THIS BUDGET TOGETHER WITHOUT HEARING THE VOICES FROM ALL OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT OUR ACADEMIC LEADERS NEED INSIDE OF THEIR BUILDINGS.

SO THEY ARE A PART OF THIS BUDGET PROCESS.

THIS BUDGET PROCESS GETS UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW, AND THEN WE'LL BE BRINGING THEM IN SLOWLY HERE AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER.

WE TRY TO LEAVE THEM ALONE AT SCHOOL STARTS, BUT THEN THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, THEY'RE THERE ALL ALONG ON THE RIDE WITH US, THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE THING.

WE CAN'T PUT THIS TOGETHER WITHOUT THEIR INPUT BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES.

THEY'RE THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND.

THEY'RE WHERE THE RUBBER HITS THE PAVEMENT.

SO THEY'RE VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN PUTTING OUR BUDGET TOGETHER EVERY YEAR.

MISS SIMPSON. I JUST HAVE A VERY SIMPLE REQUEST AND THAT IS, COULD WE ADD DATES TO THE CALENDAR OF WHEN WE WILL RECEIVE THE BUDGET BOOKS? SO WE KNOW HOW LONG WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THOSE MATERIALS.

MR. TURNER. SURE.

THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT TAKES THE LONGEST, RIGHT.

EVEN WITH US TRYING TO SHORTEN THE BUDGET BOOK WITH SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT VAC HAS PROVIDED US, IT IS A LONG DOCUMENT AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PUTTING FORTH A DOCUMENT THAT'S NOT RIDDLED WITH MISTAKES.

AND EVEN WITH THAT, THERE'S STILL SOME TYPOS IN THERE EVERY YEAR.

BUT YEAH, OUR GOAL IS TO ALWAYS BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT TO THE SCHOOL BOARD PRIOR TO THE SUPERINTENDENT RELEASING HER PROPOSED BUDGET.

SO IN THE PAST, IT WAS ALWAYS DELIVERED THE DAY OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET BEING RELEASED.

BUT THE GOAL IS TO GET IT TO YOU.

PRIOR TO THIS, THE SUPERINTENDENT RELEASING HER PROPOSED BUDGET.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. AND SORRY, I ACTUALLY HAD ANOTHER QUESTION REALIZED FOR THOSE OF US THAT HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS BEFORE.

WHAT IS THE PROCESS FOR SETTING OUR BUDGET PRIORITIES? WHEN DOES THAT HAPPEN? AND. RESULT LIKE.

SO THIS IS I ACTUALLY LIKE THE WAY WE DO OUR BUDGET PRIORITIES NOW IS DIFFERENT THAN WHEN I FIRST STARTED.

SO WE HAVE DOCTOR PAY.

SHE USUALLY FACILITATES A WORK SESSION WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD, GOES THROUGH THE THE DATA WORKBOOK AND BASICALLY TRIES TO WORK WITH THE SCHOOL BOARDS TO NARROW DOWN OR PARE DOWN THEIR PRIORITIES UNDER EACH DIFFERENT.

ONE OF THE STRATEGIC GOALS THAT WE HAVE FOR STRATEGIC PLAN 2025.

AND THEN HE FACILITATES IT TO BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH THAT LIST OF THINGS THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD AGREES ON.

SO IT'S AN INTERACTIVE WORK SESSION.

I THINK THAT'S ON SEPTEMBER 22ND, BUT YOU'LL SEE WHERE EVERY SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO IDENTIFY AREAS THAT THEY BELIEVE SHOULD BE A PRIORITY. AND GOING INTO THE NEXT YEAR AND THEN AS AS A BOARD AS A WHOLE, IT GETS PARED DOWN TO TWO OR THREE ITEMS UNDER EACH STRATEGIC GOAL.

AND THAT IS A WONDERFUL PROCESS THAT'S BEEN PUT IN PLACE.

AND IT'S TRULY INTERESTING TO SEE HOW IT COMES TOGETHER THROUGHOUT THE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE WORK SESSION.

SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT ON THE 22ND.

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DR. K I JUST WANTED TO ADD SOMETHING TO WHAT MISS IGNACIO WAS STATING, OR WE TALK ABOUT IT'S SEASON RIGHT NOW.

WE ARE ALWAYS THINKING AND MINDFUL OF WHAT THE NEEDS ARE.

THE SCHOOLS HAVE GOING ON, WHETHER IT'S SEPTEMBER OR DECEMBER.

THERE ARE MEETINGS THAT WE MEET WITH THEM COLLECTIVELY AS A LEADERSHIP TEAM TO REALLY ASSESS WHAT'S GOING ON IN THEIR SCHOOLS RIGHT NOW, LOOKING AT THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE NEEDED. SO ALL OF THAT IS HAPPENING CONTINUOUSLY THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

SO WHILE WE TALK ABOUT THIS IS THE SEASON, THOSE TYPES OF CONVERSATIONS ARE ONGOING.

IT'S JUST NOW THAT THEY BECOME FORMALIZED IN THE SENSE THAT WE ARE REALLY DRILLING DOWN IN PRIORITIZING.

SO I JUST WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT, THAT PRINCIPALS AND SCHOOL LEADERS DO HAVE THAT OPTION THROUGHOUT THE YEAR TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

BUT NOT WITH US.

RIGHT. AND SO I THINK THAT IS WHAT WE'RE MISSING, IS THAT WE ARE MISSING THE ABILITY TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND THAT DIALOG OR HEAR FROM THEM.

I MEAN, WE ALL KNOW THAT WE WANT A LOT OF THINGS AND WE DON'T ALWAYS GET A LOT OF THINGS, BUT.

AND THEN WHEN YOU HEAR IN PASSING SPECIFIC THINGS THAT THEY MAY HAVE ASKED FOR THAT WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WERE IN THE BUDGET, IT WOULD JUST BE PERSONALLY BENEFICIAL TO ME IF I KNEW WHAT IT WAS THAT LEADERS IN THE BUILDING WERE ASKING FOR.

SO I THINK WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL THAT THERE'S ALWAYS A LOT OF ASK AROUND A BUDGET.

I'M JUST GOING TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT ABOUT THAT.

AND SO WE HAVE TO USE THE DATA THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD.

SO I HEAR IT ALL THE TIME.

YOU KNOW, I REALLY NEEDED THIS IN THE BUDGET, BUT WAS THAT KIND OF THE PRIORITY OR NEED OR COULD WE HAVE MET THAT NEED IN ANOTHER WAY? AND JUST HAVING THAT DISCUSSION WITH THAT LEADER IS SOMETIMES HELPFUL.

WHILE YOU MAY STILL GET THAT I NEEDED THIS PRODUCT THAT WE CAN SERVICE THAT SCHOOL OR THAT COMMUNITY WITH OTHER PRODUCTS THAT WE HAVE.

IT JUST MAY HAVE BEEN SOMETHING THAT MAYBE THAT PRINCIPAL WAS FAMILIAR WITH OR LEADER OR SPECIALIST, BUT WE DO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE SCHOOLS AND THE CHILDREN IS JUST HOW WE GET THERE.

I THINK WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING WITHOUT.

I CAN TELL YOU WHEN I LOOK AT THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE LAST YEAR, THERE'S A PLETHORA OF RESOURCES.

SO THEY MAY NOT HAVE GOT THEIR EXACT ONE ASK, BUT I'M SURE THAT THROUGH THAT PROCESS, THEIR NEEDS FOR THEIR COMMUNITY ARE BEING MET FOR OUR STUDENTS.

SO I UNDERSTAND YOU MAY NOT GET THAT DIRECTLY AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT WOULD PROBABLY EXTEND THIS PROCESS.

AND THE TIME AND THE STAFF TO COME IN TO DO THAT WOULD MAKE THIS CALENDAR EVEN MORE CHALLENGING TO HAPPEN.

SO I JUST WANT TO BE MINDFUL BECAUSE THEN THAT WOULD BE BRINGING IN MORE STAFF TO PRESENT AND ASK QUESTIONS AND THAT SORT OF THING.

SO. MS..

BOOS. AND I THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING KIND OF THE TRADE OFFS.

I THINK IT WAS SUPER, SUPER HELPFUL TO HEAR THE CONSIDERATION OF DOING THOSE TWO WORK SESSIONS, PARTICULARLY IN JANUARY RIGHT AFTER THE HOLIDAY.

AND THE REQUIREMENT OF POSTING THAT WEEK.

AND THE IMPACT THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAVE ON STAFF DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT'S A REALLY WORKABLE SOLUTION FOR EVERYBODY.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT OVERVIEW.

I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AND THEN JUST KIND OF A REQUEST.

SO REGARDLESS, IT SOUNDS LIKE NO MATTER WHAT YOUR TEAM IS WORKING OVER THE HOLIDAY BREAK, REGARDLESS IF WE CHANGE THIS CALENDAR OR NOT.

IS THAT THE CASE OR NOT? THAT IS THE CASE. WE TYPICALLY WORK 2 TO 4 WEEKS OR 2 TO 4 DAYS OVER THE WINTER BREAK TO TRY TO FINISH EVERYTHING UP TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT'S PRESENTATION IS READY TO GO JANUARY 5TH AND EVERYBODY HAS A BUDGET BOOK.

OKAY. SO I AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT FIGURING OUT HOW WE COMPENSATE YOU GUYS FAIRLY FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING OVER THAT BREAK.

REGARDLESS OF WHERE THE CALENDAR LANDS, THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING AS A AS A WHOLE.

THE OTHER THING.

HAVE WE, WITH OUR NEW CITY MANAGER, ASKED IF THERE'S ANY WIGGLE ROOM FOR HIM TO PUSH BACK HIS CITY MANAGER BUDGET TO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE BREATHING ROOM. DO YOU WANT ME TO TAKE THIS, DR.

KAY? THEY WERE ALL LOOKING AT ME AND I WAS READY TO JUMP ON HERE.

I THINK THAT'S NOT AS FIT THAT WE CAN DO AS STAFF TO ASK THEM TO PUSH BACK.

THERE'S THEIR CALENDAR.

WE CAN ONLY CONTROL WHAT WE CONTROL WITH OUR CALENDAR.

SO THAT WOULD BE A DIFFICULT ASK.

AND AGAIN, WE JUST WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF THE DATE AND THE TIMELINE OF THE WORK THAT WE NEED TO GET DONE SO WE CANNOT ASK THEM TO MAKE THAT CHANGE.

SO MAYBE THAT COULD BE SOMETHING IN THE SUBCOMMITTEE WORK TO TALK ABOUT AND REVISIT AND JUST BE REALISTIC ABOUT THE TIME THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE AS BOARD AND THEN ALSO RESPECTING THE STAFF'S TIME THAT WE HAVE.

SO THEN I GUESS MY OTHER.

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SORRY, GO AHEAD. IF I COULD, REAL QUICK, ONE OF THE DIFFICULTIES WITH THAT PROCESS IS IF THE CITY MANAGER MOVES BACK HIS PROPOSED DATE, THEN IT'S GOING TO TRUNCATE THE CITY COUNCIL'S TIME THAT THEY HAVE TO DELIBERATE ON THEIR BUDGET AND ACPS IS ONE COMPONENT OF THEIR BUDGET.

SO WE'D BE ASKING THEM TO SHORTEN THEIR DELIBERATION TIME BY MOVING THAT BACK.

I'LL SAY NOTHING BEATS FAIL BUT A TRY.

SO THE TWO ELECTED BODIES CAN ALWAYS HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S JUST THEIR UNDERSTANDING THAT IF THEY DO THAT, THEN THEY'RE TRUNCATING THEIR OWN DELIBERATION TIME.

ALL RIGHT? YEAH, GOOD. THANK YOU.

FAIR ENOUGH. I THINK IT'S STILL WORTH THE CONVERSATION, AT LEAST.

SO THEN, I GUESS MY REQUEST IN LOOKING AT JUST KIND OF THE SPIRITS OF THE IDEAS OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT DR.

RIEF AND I PUT FORWARD, LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF YOUR TEAM COULD GO BACK AND SEE IS THERE ANY WIGGLE ROOM, COULD THE QUESTIONS AT LEAST BE MOVED? SO THEY'RE NOT DUE AT NOON THE DAY AFTER A BOARD MEETING THAT ENDS AT 11 OR MIDNIGHT.

BECAUSE I REMEMBER IN THIS LAST SESSION, THERE WERE QUESTIONS THAT CAME TO ME BECAUSE WE HAD OUR WORK SESSION THAT NIGHT AND THEN IT WAS DUE AND THEN I HAVE TO WORK THE NEXT DAY.

SO I'M NOT FEELING LIKE I'M DOING MY JOB.

I DO DILIGENCE AS A BOARD MEMBER, SO I'M NOT COMPLETELY WEDDED TO THESE DATES.

BUT IF YOU CAN TAKE SOME OF THE CONCEPTS AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER WIGGLE ROOM THAT'S WORKABLE FOR STAFF, SO YOU'RE NOT REALLY STRETCHING YOURSELF BECAUSE THAT'S THE LAST THING THAT WE WANT. WE'VE BEEN STRETCHING OURSELVES FOR THE LAST COUPLE FOR A WHILE, BUT ESPECIALLY THESE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

SO IS THERE SOME KIND OF HAPPY MEDIUM THAT STAFF COULD COME BACK TO US WITH? SO WE CAN DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK AT THE CALENDAR AGAIN WITH THE FOCUS BEING ON SPREADING OUT THE TIME BETWEEN WHEN THE LAST WORK SESSION IS AND WHEN THE QUESTIONS I DO IN MY HEARING THAT CORRECT THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO BE DONE, MAKING SURE THERE'S MORE TIME BETWEEN THE LAST.

OKAY, I'M SEEING HEADS SHAKE.

SO, YES, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND SPACING OUT THOSE.

AND THEN ALSO, WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT HOW WE CAN PUT A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CIP IN THE FALL AHEAD OF WHEN YOU ASK YOUR QUESTIONS.

I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WAS ASKED.

SO WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT HOW WE CAN DO THAT.

AGAIN, I'M OPERATING UNDER THE CONSTRAINTS OF YOU DON'T WANT TO ADD MORE MEETINGS TO YOUR CALENDAR.

SO WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT HOW WE CAN HOW WE CAN DO THAT, HOW WE CAN GET THAT PUBLIC HEARING IN THERE WITHOUT ADDING ANOTHER MEETING.

NOW FOLLOW UP ON THAT. SO THE CONSTRAINTS ABOUT WITHOUT ADDING ANOTHER MEANING THE CALENDAR WAS A CONSTRAINT OF THIS BOARD OR THE PREVIOUS BOARD.

I MEAN, NOT THAT I'M SAYING THAT WE SHOULD, BUT SHOULD WE AS THIS BOARD CONSIDER IF THAT'S A IF THAT'S A LIMITATION FOR YOUR STAFF AND IT WOULD BE BETTER TO ADD ONE, MAYBE YOU'RE LIKE, NO, YOU'RE CRAZY.

WE DON'T WANT TO ADD ANOTHER ONE BUT MEETING.

BUT SHOULD WE BE CONSIDERING THAT FOR THESE BUDGET DISCUSSIONS? I THINK WE COULD ALWAYS CONSIDER.

OF COURSE, IT'S THE WILL OF THE BOARD IF WE DO DECIDE TO DO THAT.

ALL RIGHT, MR. L NEWBY.

THANK YOU, MADAM VICE CHAIR.

I PERSONALLY I AGREE WITH MR. BOOTH, JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

I THINK WE NEED TO ADD A MEETING.

BUDGET SESSION. BUDGET SEASON IS A CRUNCH SEASON FOR EVERYONE.

I MEAN, IF STAFF IS GOING TO WORK HARD AND WORK OVER TIME AND WORK, WE SHOULD DO IT AS WELL.

RESPONSIBILITY WE SIGNED UP FOR.

SO I WOULDN'T MIND IF SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL.

SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, OBVIOUSLY THE OTHER POINT THAT I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT AS WE WERE TALKING AND DR.

SIMPSON BIRD ASKED ABOUT MENTIONED WE'RE ALL SOME OF US I THINK FIVE OF US ARE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS FOR THE FIRST TIME.

ONE THING I WOULD SUGGEST WE THINK ABOUT, MAYBE EVEN FOR THE NEXT BOARD IS SOME SORT OF ORIENTATION ON THE BUDGET FOR THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS. MAYBE IT COULD BE LIKE DURING I THINK PERSONALLY, I THINK WE COULD HAVE USED ONE OF THE TIMES THAT WE DID RETREAT TO DO THAT.

FOR ME IT WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE BENEFICIAL.

SO SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT JUST GIVES US IT WILL HELP US WITH WITH THIS PROCESS.

WE'RE PERSONALLY I'M STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE WHOLE BUDGET PROCESS AND WHEN ARE WE SETTING PRIORITIES AND HOW WE SET PRIORITIES? WHAT SHOULD I BE READY? SO I THINK AN ORIENTATION, EVEN IF IT'S LIKE AN HOUR OR SO, BUT JUST THE ORIENTATION OF THE WHOLE BUDGET, THE WHOLE BUDGET PROCESS AND HOW IT WORKS AND DATES AND EVERYTHING WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL AND MAYBE EVEN HANDING OUT LIKE WE WERE NOT HANDED OUT.

THESE DOCUMENTS WERE APPROVING TODAY THE.

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THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT AND THE RESOLUTION, ALL THAT.

I THINK I JUST DISCOVERED THOSE RECENTLY, THOSE WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY HELPFUL FOR ME TO KNOW ABOUT AND READ THROUGH OR HAVE SAID ORIENTATION OR TRAINING SESSION ABOUT ALL THAT BEFORE WE STARTED THE BUDGET LAST TIME.

SO JUST THE THOUGHT.

FOOD FOR THOUGHT. THANK YOU.

DR. KIDWAI, I JUST WANT TO BE MINDFUL AGAIN OF THE STAFF.

I'M HEARING THAT THERE'S THE POTENTIAL OR THE WILL OF THE BOARD TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL MEETING.

I'M ASSUMING WITH THAT MEETING IS GOING TO COME SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AND WORK.

I JUST WANT TO BE MINDFUL THAT IF THAT IS THE ROLE OF THE BOARD AND THAT HAPPENS, THAT WE ARE MINDFUL WHERE WE PLACE THIS ON THE CALENDAR MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO INVOLVE MORE WORK FROM THE STAFF.

SO I JUST WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT.

GREAT. THANK YOU, DR.

REEF. WELL, MR. TURNER. SORRY. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

REMEMBER? AL NEWBY THAT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT WE DO IN THE PAST.

THIS YEAR THERE'S JUST BEEN A LOT OF MOVING PARTS HAPPENING HERE IN THE SEPTEMBER AND THE AUGUST TIME FRAME THAT WE DID NOT DO IT. BUT WE NORMALLY HAVE TWO BY TWOS IN AUGUST.

IN THE PAST WE DID A BUDGET 101 SESSION FOR FOUR MEMBERS, SO WE CAN DEFINITELY BRING THAT BACK.

JUST SOME MOVING PARTS THIS YEAR, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY BRING IT BACK AND WE CAN GET EVERYBODY IN TO DO A BUDGET ONE ON ONE FOR SURE.

HE ASKED. THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

GREAT. ALL RIGHT, DR.

REEF. THANK YOU, EVERYONE, FOR THE CONVERSATION.

I MEAN, I THINK I THINK IT'S BEEN PRODUCTIVE JUST TO HEAR ALL THE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES SHARED, YOU KNOW, JUST TO WANT TO JUST SAY THAT I AGREE, FIRST OF ALL, WITH MS..

BOOZE THAT WE WANT TO COMPENSATE YOUR TEAM.

DOMINIC, IF YOU ALL ARE WORKING MORE HOURS THAN ARE IN YOUR CONTRACT, THAT'S THAT'S NOT WHAT THE KIND OF EMPLOYER WE WANT TO BE.

SO I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION.

AND AND TO MS..

IGNACIO, HIS POINT, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A CHALLENGE BECAUSE I THINK YOU ALL WORK CLOSELY WITH THE SCHOOL LEADERS ON THE BUDGET AND THEN YOU ALL BRING IT BACK TO US.

WE DON'T HAVE AS MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO HEAR FROM THE SCHOOL LEADERS, AND I UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES THAT COME WITH THAT.

BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, I SHARE THAT.

I MEAN, WE YOU KNOW, WE'RE FREELY INTERACTING WITH THE COMMUNITY ON A REGULAR BASIS.

I THINK WE NEED MORE INTERACTION WITH OUR SCHOOL LEADERS.

I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING I'VE DESIRED AS A BOARD.

I THINK THERE MAY BE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS WHO FEEL THAT WAY AS WELL.

SO I JUST I'LL JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE FOR FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH.

AND THEN AS FAR AS THE MEETING CALENDAR, I'LL SAY THAT I THINK THERE MAY BE OPPORTUNITIES TO RATHER THAN HAVING THESE SUPER LONG MEETINGS SOMETIMES, ESPECIALLY WHAT I FIND THROUGHOUT THE YEAR IS THERE'S ALWAYS THESE KIND OF CLOSED SESSIONS AND THINGS WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD CLERK IS HAVING TO REACH OUT AND FIND A DATE THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE.

AND SO JUST SOMETIMES I'M NOT SUGGESTING TWO MEETINGS IN A WEEK, BUT IF IF THERE IS LIKE THOSE EXTRA DATES BUILT INTO THE CALENDAR, THEN IT CAN JUST BE A SHORTER SORT OF MEETING INSTEAD OF LIKE EVERYTHING GETTING PILED ON INTO ONE DAY.

BUT WHEN YOU WERE TALKING TO MR. TURNER ABOUT JUST KIND OF THE TRADE OFFS, THERE WAS A LOT YOU SAID A LOT.

AND AND SO I JUST WANTED TO SO WAS TRYING TO FOLLOW EVERYTHING.

AND I DEFINITELY CAN SEE WHERE PUSHING THE CIP INTO APPROVING THAT IN JANUARY IS IS NOT VERY TENABLE.

BUT JUST GOING BACK TO THE OPERATING OR THE COMBINED FUNDS BUDGET IN THE JANUARY, FEBRUARY TIME FRAME, THE QUESTION THAT I HAD WAS ABOUT IF THE QUESTIONS ARE, YOU ALSO REITERATED THAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE MORE TIME AFTER THE WORK SESSION BEFORE THE QUESTIONS ARE DUE.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT COULD BE PUSHED BACK FROM THE FRIDAY TO THE MONDAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND THEN THE OTHER THING WAS ABOUT WHEN THE CO SPONSORED AD DELETES ARE PUBLICLY POSTED.

IF THAT COULD JUST BE MORE THAN THE NIGHT BEFORE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT DELETE SESSION.

THAT WAS THE OTHER REQUEST.

SO JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THAT AS WELL.

SO I THINK WITH THE CO-SPONSORSHIP, THE SUGGESTION WAS TO HAVE THEM POSTED ON FEBRUARY 3RD, INSTEAD OF WHICH IS A FRIDAY, I BELIEVE, INSTEAD OF THAT FOLLOWING MONDAY OR TUESDAY.

AND TO DO THAT, THAT IS THE SAME DAY WE WOULD BE RECEIVING ALL THE SPONSORSHIPS BACK FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS.

SO IT LITERALLY GIVES STAFF NO TIME TO BE ABLE TO THEN COMPILE THEM AND THEN COME UP WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT'S RECOMMENDATION FOR WHAT SHE MIGHT WANT TO

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INCLUDE. BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME TIMES WHEN THERE'S A THERE'S AN ITEM THAT RECEIVES ENOUGH SUPPORT.

WE GO AHEAD AND PUT IT INTO THE ADJUSTED SUPERINTENDENT'S BUDGET BEFORE WE EVEN MOVE INTO THE WORK SESSION.

SO IF WE DO THAT, THERE'S NO TIME TO THEN BE ABLE TO MEET WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THE CABINET TO BE ABLE TO SAY, OKAY, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT BEHOOVES ACP OR NOT? SO AGAIN, IT JUST IT JUST DOESN'T PROVIDE THAT TIME.

BUT I HEARD THE BOARD THEY WANT TO HAVE THE TIME BETWEEN THE LAST WORK SESSION AND THE QUESTIONS.

SO WE'LL DEFINITELY TAKE THE CALENDAR BACK TO FIND TIME IN BETWEEN THE LAST WORK SESSION AND WHEN YOU HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTIONS.

IF THERE WANTS TO BE TIME BETWEEN WHEN YOU RECEIVE ALL OF THE SPONSORSHIPS AND THE FIRST AD DELETE SESSION.

WE'LL LOOK FOR THAT TO COME IN THIS THING.

SOME OF THESE ARE GOING TO ADD DAYS.

WHEN I SAY ADD DAYS, I MEAN MEETINGS.

BUT WE'LL COME BACK WITH A CALENDAR THAT THAT SHOWS THAT BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE AND QUALITY ANSWERS TO ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS AND THEN HAVE TIME TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE AND QUALITY RESPONSES TO YOUR AD DELETES AS WELL. SO WE DON'T WANT TO SEND SHODDY WORK FORWARD, AND I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD BE A DISSERVICE TO ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS IN ACP. THANK YOU, MR. TURNER. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

AND JUST ONE FINAL THOUGHT.

IN JUNE, WHEN YOU PRESENTED THE BUDGET CALENDAR TO THIS NEW BOARD, THERE WAS ONLY ONE OPTION AT THAT TIME.

I REALLY THINK THE MOST SUCCESSFUL CONVERSATION I FEEL LIKE WE HAD AS A BOARD WAS ACTUALLY THE PRIOR YEAR WHEN THERE WERE MULTIPLE OPTIONS FOR THE BUDGET CALENDAR.

SO IF THAT IS A POSSIBILITY, YOU KNOW, IN FUTURE YEARS, I'M JUST GOING TO PUT A PLUG IN THAT.

I THINK THAT THAT ALLOWS THE BOARD TO FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAVING A LITTLE BIT MORE WIGGLE ROOM WHERE WE CAN JUST HAVE OUR VOICES HEARD IN THIS PROCESS.

SO THANK YOU.

YEAH, I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE WITH THAT, DR.

REEF. ALL RIGHT, MISS IGNACIO.

SO I'M TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND.

WHAT APPEARS TO BE.

WHETHER IT WAS COVID OR WHAT, THAT THERE'S JUST A LACK OF KNOWLEDGE ON ALL OF OUR PART AROUND THE PROCESS OF THE BUDGET.

AND SO.

I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN.

WORK MORE COLLABORATIVELY AS A GROUP.

TO GET TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE COMING OUT OF COVID.

I THINK NOW I'M ABLE TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND IT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT HAVING THE TWO BY TWOS AND WE WEREN'T HAVING FACE TO FACE CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF A PANDEMIC. AND SO THAT WOULD LEAD THE DIFFERENCE OF PRIOR YEARS TO COMING INTO THIS PANDEMIC.

BUT. HOW DO WE DOMINATE? PROVIDE? PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO YOU THAT ISN'T REDUNDANT AND THAT ISN'T TOO MUCH THAT.

HOW CAN WE DO THAT? HOW CAN WE GET TO A POINT WHERE WE ARE COMMUNICATING AND WE'RE COLLABORATING AND BUT WE'RE NOT ALSO INUNDATING YOUR STAFF WITH THESE QUESTIONS THAT THEY'RE HAVING TO SPEND A RIDICULOUS AMOUNT OF TIME ANSWERING BACK TO US.

HOW DO WE GET TO NOT HAVE NOT BEEN TO THAT POINT EITHER? LET ME TAKE THAT, DR. KAY WHITE.

YOU COULD TAKE IT. YEAH, YOU CAN TAKE IT.

AND I WAS ALSO THINKING YOU PROBABLY HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE THAN I HAVE, BUT I WAS THINKING AND LISTENING ABOUT THE COLLABORATIVE KIND OF MOVEMENT THAT I'M HEARING IS THAT YOU WANT TO BE IN TOUCH WITH THESE PRINCIPLES MORE.

YOU WANT TO BE IN TOUCH WITH THIS GROUP MORE THIS STAKEHOLDER GROUP I DON'T HAVE.

BUT THE ONE YEAR OF HISTORY, WHICH WAS A VERY TRANSIENT YEAR FOR US OF OF MANY THINGS AND MANY IDEAS, AND WE HAD TO KIND OF PROBABLY SHIFT OUR PRIORITIES.

SO I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO COMPARE IT TO OTHER THAN THE HISTORICAL THINGS THAT YOU ALL HAVE SHARED WITH US, WITH OTHER STAKEHOLDERS.

SO BUT MR. TURNER WOULD PROBABLY HAVE WHAT THOSE TWO BY TWOS MAY HAVE LOOKED LIKE PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC.

I PROBABLY WOULD SAY, LIKE YOU SAID, BEING THAT VIRTUAL, THERE WERE OTHER THINGS THAT WERE TAKEN OFF OF THE PLATES OF SENIOR LEADERSHIP WHERE THEY COULD SPEND THAT TIME WITH YOU, WHERE LAST YEAR THAT WAS NOT THERE.

SO THIS YEAR I WOULD SAY MOVING FORWARD, OF COURSE, YOU CAN HAVE MORE OF THOSE COLLABORATIVE THINGS.

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DOES THAT HELP US NOW? NO, IT DOES NOT.

BUT I THINK MOVING FORWARD AND MR. TURNER, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE AND EXPERIENCE WHAT YOU'RE YOU'RE KNOWING FROM PREVIOUS YEARS.

BUT I JUST THINK LAST YEAR WAS AN ANOMALY IN HOW WE OPERATE IT.

SO. MR. TURNER. OR SO.

ONE OF THE WAYS WE COLLABORATE IS ALWAYS THROUGH TWO BY TWO, AND YOU'LL SEE SOME DATES ON THERE ON THE CALENDAR WHEN WE DO TWO BY TWOS AND USUALLY IN THE EARLY PART OF DECEMBER, WE HAVE TWO BY TWOS TO KIND OF GIVE A 20,000 FOOT VIEW OF WHAT THE SUPERINTENDENT IS GOING TO PROPOSE IN JANUARY.

JUST SO THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS CAN KIND OF GET A GLIMPSE OF THAT AND BE ABLE TO HAVE THEIR COMMENTS IN DECEMBER.

ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS, AS FAR AS THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE ASKED, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS MENTIONED LAST YEAR, FEEL FREE TO ASK THE QUESTIONS AT ANY TIME.

AGAIN, A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS ARE PROGRAMMATIC QUESTIONS.

SO WE GIVE DIFFERENT PROGRAMMATIC PRESENTATIONS THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE YEAR.

SO IF WE'RE ABLE TO ASK THOSE PROGRAMMATIC QUESTIONS DURING THAT, THAT COULD HELP.

PERSONALLY, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE NUMBER OF QUESTIONS BECAUSE AGAIN, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE QUALITY INFORMATION TO THE SCHOOL BOARD THAT THEY FEEL LIKE THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A DETERMINATION ON ON THEIR BUDGET.

SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THOSE QUESTIONS.

IT'S JUST WHEN THERE ARE A LOT, THEN DOES PUT A CRUNCH ON BEING ABLE TO GET QUALITY ANSWERS BACK TO YOU ALL.

AND WHEN THOSE QUESTIONS ARE KIND OF OUTSIDE THE REALM OF THE PRIORITIES THAT WERE SET BY THE SCHOOL BOARD AT THE START OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, IT JUST MAKES IT A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT.

SO IF THEY'RE FOCUSED ON THE PRIORITIES THAT YOU SET HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, THAT WILL ALSO HELP AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE GETTING THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

ALL RIGHT, MR. AL-RUBAIE.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

TO ANOTHER IDEA TO MISDIAGNOSIS POINT.

I THINK MR. TURNER MAKES A GOOD POINT, AND HE MENTIONED IT IN THE LAST MAY MEETING, WHICH I'M TAKING TO HEART IS ASKING QUESTIONS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DURING THE BUDGET SEASON. I THINK JUST KNOWING THAT HELPS A LOT.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO.

BUT WHAT SOMETHING ELSE I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO DO I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL IS MAYBE HAVE LIKE MAYBE QUARTERLY OR TWICE A YEAR CHECK IN WITH MR. TURNER JUST TO LIKE BRAINSTORM BECAUSE OVER BECAUSE THAT WE GET THOSE IDEAS OVER TIME FROM CONSTITUENTS, FROM TO PEOPLE.

AND YOU COME UP WITH THOSE QUESTIONS IN YOUR MIND ABOUT THE BUDGET OR IDEAS.

AND HE HAS A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE WITH THE PROCESS AND WITH THE FINANCIALS.

AND MAYBE JUST LIKE A 30 MINUTE CONVERSATION WITH HIM COULD PROBABLY REDUCE A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE DURING THE BUDGET SEASON.

SO MAYBE JUST HAVING FREQUENT MEETINGS OR LIKE I SAID, MAYBE JUST TWICE A YEAR CHECK IN 30 MINUTES OR AN HOUR MEETING WITH MR. TURNER AND MAYBE DR.

K WITH BOARD MEMBERS AT BOARD MEMBERS REQUESTS.

AND JUST HAVING THOSE SECOND CONVERSATIONS, I FOUND IT VERY HELPFUL.

BUT MR. TURNER AND I WERE CHATTING AT PATRICK HENRY ON THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL.

I MEAN, THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I HAVE A ONE ON ONE CONVERSATION WITH HIM, AND IT WAS VERY HELPFUL.

SO THINGS LIKE THAT.

I KNOW CITY STAFF AND COUNCIL MEMBERS DO THAT AND THEY FIND IT HELPFUL.

SO JUST AGAIN, ANOTHER IDEA THAT COULD SIGNAL THIS ONE CAN HELP US WITH REDUCING THE BURDEN DURING BUDGET SEASON ON MR. TURNER AND HIS STAFF. MR. TURNER. YEAH.

SO I'M ALL FOR THAT.

BUT I DEFINITELY WANT TO ENCOURAGE TO GO THROUGH THE SUPERINTENDENT.

I AM A STRICT I WILL GO, NO, NO, I GOT YOU.

I AM A STRICT RULE FOLLOWER.

AND OUR POLICY SAYS IT GOES THROUGH THE SUPERINTENDENT.

SO I'M ON CAMERA IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY.

IF YOU ALL HAVE EVER SENT ME AN EMAIL AND I HAVE NOT RESPONDED TO THAT EMAIL, IT'S BECAUSE I'M GOING THROUGH THE SUPERINTENDENT.

RIGHT? I'M A STRICT RULE FOLLOWER.

I'M NOT TRYING TO GET YOU IN TROUBLE.

DON'T WORRY. THANK YOU, MR. TURNER, FOR LISTENING TO MY MEETING.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT.

ALL RIGHT. MR. HARRIS HAS A QUESTION.

WELL. WELL.

I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT. I KNOW THAT COMING INTO LAST YEAR WAS CHALLENGING.

I MEAN, WE HAD TO RUN A CAMPAIGN VIRTUALLY.

SO COMING INTO THE SCHOOL YEAR, WE FELT LIKE THAT WHEN IT CAME TO THE BUDGET, WE DIDN'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF INPUT OR IMPACT BECAUSE WE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

AND JUST COMING IN, I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WANTS TO FEEL LIKE WE'RE JUST RUBBER STAMPING SOMETHING GOING FORWARD BECAUSE IT AFFECTS THE OTHER YEAR OR COMING AND

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BEING A PART OF THAT PROCESS LAST YEAR.

I THINK LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS BUDGET SEASON, WE WANTED TO HAVE MORE IMPACT INPUT.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW HE CAN DO IT.

I HEAR YOU.

I HEAR EVERY ONE IN REGARD TO WE DON'T WANT TO OVERBURDEN STAFF AND PUT MORE ON THEIR PLATE.

IT'S NOT ALWAYS ABOUT COMPENSATION.

THEY NEED TIME OFF AS WELL.

SO THERE IS A HAPPY MEDIUM.

BUT WE DO NEED SOME TIME.

EVEN IF IT WAS A DAY, TWO DAYS, SOMETHING.

I MEAN, BECAUSE IT SEEMS IT SEEMS LIKE THAT IT WAS JUST HIS BUDGET BOOK.

WE HAVE NO TIME TO COLLABORATE WITH OUR COLLEAGUES.

WE HAVE NO TIME TO PRIORITIZE.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN DO IT.

I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER.

BUT JUST BEING ABLE TO LOOK AT SOMETHING, IF WE CAN BE AFFORDED SOME TIME TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND MAKE SOME MEANINGFUL, MINDFUL DECISIONS THAT ARE GOING TO AFFECT OUR KIDS GOING FORWARD.

I THINK THAT'S NO BENEFITS TO WHAT WE'RE DOING.

THAT'S OUR PRIORITY. THAT'S WHAT OUR JOB IS.

AND I THINK WE SHOULD FIND SOME WAY TO MAKE IT HAPPEN IF.

DOCTOR. WHY DO YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT OR.

MR. TURNER. OKAY.

SO I'M SORRY, BUT I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, I THINK THAT THIS YEAR, HAVING GONE THROUGH THE ENTIRE BUDGET PROCESS FROM BEGINNING TO END, YOU'RE GOING TO FEEL A LOT DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS BUDGET THAT YOU'RE APPROVING.

AGAIN, THE LAST BUDGET THAT YOU APPROVED WAS REALLY THE FORMER BOARD THAT SET THOSE PRIORITIES AND EVERYTHING.

MOVING FORWARD THIS YEAR, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO SET YOUR PRIORITIES.

YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE IN THE TWO BY TWO TO SEE THE 20,000 FOOT VIEW OF WHAT'S GOING INTO THE BUDGET AGAIN.

88% OF OUR BUDGET IS PEOPLE.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE HIGH LEVEL OF VIEW OF SAYING THIS IS WHAT THIS IS WHAT THE BUDGET FOR PEOPLE WAS LAST YEAR.

THIS IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE THIS YEAR.

IT'S INCLUDED A STEP OR IT'S INCLUDED MARA IT'S INCLUDED X AMOUNT OF NEW FTES.

YOU'LL SEE WHAT'S ON THE NON PERSONNEL SIDE AND ALL OF THAT PRIOR TO THE SUPERINTENDENT ACTUALLY RELEASING HER PROPOSED BUDGET ON JANUARY 5TH.

SO YOU'LL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY AS AGAIN, SO AS YOU SEE THE WHOLE PROCESS GO THROUGH, HOPEFULLY I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I GUARANTEE IT, BUT BUT HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL SEE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN HOW EVERYTHING FEELS THIS YEAR BECAUSE YOU'RE IN IT FROM BEGINNING TO END.

I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP AND SAY THAT COMING IN AS NEW BOARD MEMBERS, YOU THINK THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH 100% OF BUDGET, WE'RE COMING IN AND JUST CHANGING EVERYTHING UNTIL WE REALIZE THAT WE ONLY HAVE 12%, THAT WE CAN MODERATELY FLUCTUATE, IF AT ALL.

SO I DO RESPECT THE PROCESS.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT TAKES.

I'M DEFINITELY GLAD I DON'T HAVE YOUR JOB.

BUT WE DO RESPECT THAT AND WE JUST HOPE THAT WE CAN FIND SOME KIND OF COMPROMISE WHERE WE CAN BOTH ALL FEEL LIKE THAT WE'RE BEING MEANINGFUL.

BENEFICIAL. SO THANK YOU.

GREAT THOUGHTS, MR. HARRIS.

AND HONESTLY, FIVE OF YOU ARE, YOU KNOW, ARE NEW TO THIS.

AND I REMEMBER SITTING IN YOUR SEATS THREE AND A HALF WELL OVER THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO.

AND IT'S THAT FIRST THAT FIRST MEETING, THAT BUDGET BOOK IS PUT IN YOUR LAP.

AND IT'S JUST VERY DAUNTING.

AND TO NOT GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS, YOU JUST FEEL LOST.

BUT THIS YEAR, I THINK IT WILL GET A WHOLE LOT EASIER, PARTICULARLY AFTER THE BUDGET PRIORITIES.

AND WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THAT OUR FIRST GO ROUND.

I THINK THAT CAME IN OUR SECOND OR SECOND TO THIRD WAVE, RIGHT.

MR. TURNER. AND WITH AFTER HAVING THAT AND PUTTING THOSE PRIORITIES TOGETHER AS A BOARD, IT JUST WAS SO MUCH IT WAS MORE COMFORTABLE AND MORE IT JUST FLOWED SO MUCH BETTER.

SO I THINK AFTER THAT SEPTEMBER 22ND MEETING AND THEN MOVING FORWARD WITH THE TWO BY TWOS, I THINK YOU'LL YOU'LL SEE JUST A BIG DIFFERENCE IN YOUR KNOWLEDGE.

ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? EVERYONE. EVERYONE GOOD? ALL RIGHT. DR. HAYWARD, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FINAL WORDS? NO. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS PROCESS AND REALLY FOR MAKING THE COMMENTS TO SUPPORT OUR STAFF.

IT'S ALWAYS A DIFFICULT DECISION TO MAKE WHEN WE HAVE TO CHOOSE.

YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S ONLY A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THE BUDGET THAT WE CAN CONTROL.

AND I WAS GOING TO SAY A FEW MOMENTS AGO WHEN YOU WERE SPEAKING, MR. HARRIS, THIS IS A FULL YEAR PROCESS FOR EVERYONE.

WE HAVE EVERYONE IN PLACE READY TO DO THE WORK.

AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD START FOR US BECAUSE WE ARE IN YEAR TWO AND WE'RE BACK IN THE BUSINESS OF SCHOOL LIKE IT SHOULD BE.

SO I JUST REALLY WELCOME THAT PROCESS THIS YEAR.

SO THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THAT OUR STAFF WORK SO HARD.

AND I'M GOING TO JUST TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK MR. TURNER BECAUSE MR. TURNER DOES WORK.

I HAD A QUESTION FOR HIM.

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I SENT AN EMAIL AND HE RESPONDED LATE LAST NIGHT.

SO HE IS DEDICATED TO THIS WORK AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

AND I SAID, WHY ARE YOU CALLING ME? WHY ARE YOU CHECKING YOUR EMAIL AT THIS TIME? BUT THAT'S WHAT WE DO.

AND I HOPE THE COMMUNITY AND ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS REALIZE THAT EVERY EDUCATOR, EVERY STAKEHOLDER, EVERY LEVEL OF EMPLOYEE IS GIVING THEIR ALL AT ALL TIMES WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

SO AND WE WILL DEFINITELY LOOK FOR WAYS TO BE MORE COLLABORATIVE AND HAVE YOU ALL ENGAGED.

MR. TURNER, YOUR HAND IS STILL UP.

DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? SO I DID.

AND I HATE TO BE THE STUDENT THAT RAISES THEIR HAND IN THE CLASS THAT THAT THAT ISSUE.

THAT ISSUE. IT'S NORMALLY ME ASK ANYBODY ON SLT.

BUT IF WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE THESE EDITS AND PROVIDE IT TO A BOARD LEADERSHIP, WILL THEY BE ABLE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION WITH THEIR PEERS TO DETERMINE IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO? BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE COME BACK, THE NEXT TIME, IT IS SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY IS ABLE TO WORK WITH.

YES. ARE YOU ARE YOU ABLE TO HAVE THAT TO US BY TUESDAY OR WOULD IT BE THE FOLLOWING TUESDAY? SO THE NEXT MEETING IS ON THE 22ND.

I THINK THAT'S WHEN IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE APPROVED.

SO IT WOULD IT WOULD BE TO BEFORE THE 15TH.

OK. YES, WE CAN.

WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

OKAY. AWESOME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. AND I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. TURNER, FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND YOUR TEAM AS WELL.

PLEASE THANK THEM FOR US AS WELL AS WE MOVE FORWARD INTO BUDGET SEASON.

THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES.

THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO STAYED ON WITH US IN THE ZOOM, DR.

GONZALEZ AND THE ATTENDEES ON THE OTHER SIDE.

WE APPRECIATE YOU AS WELL.

IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED, JUST BOARD MEMBERS, JUST FEEL FREE TO SEND US AN EMAIL.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. DR. K Y YOUR FIRST WORK SESSION WITH US AS WELL.

I APPRECIATE YOU. ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. MADAM VICE CHAIR MODERATING.

GOOD JOB. THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT. I APPRECIATE IT.

ALL RIGHT, EVERYONE, HAVE A.

YOU KNOW, I.

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