Jun 13, 2022 Joint City Council/School Board Work Session

>> I AM CALLING THE WORK SESSION TO ORDER.

[A. School/City Facility Planning]

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WE DO HAVE -- WE DO HAVE SEVERAL BOARD MEMBERS WHO ARE PARTICIPATING ELECTRONICALLY.

WE WILL FORMALLY GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF ALLOWING THOSE BOARD MEMBERS TO PARTICIPATE ELECTRONICALLY IN THE MEETING.

I WILL HAVE THE VICE CHAIR READ A MOTION AND WE WILL SIMPLY, IF WE ARE ALL IN FAVOR WE WILL SAY AYE.

VICE CHAIR?

>> THAT BOARD MEMBERS HAVE NOT HAD THE WEATHER UNAVAILABLE TO BE PHYSICALLY AVAILABLE AT THE FOR THE JOINT CITY COUNCIL SCHOOL BOARD WORK SESSION DUE TO PERSONAL MATTERS SPECIFICALLY TRAVEL, ILLNESS.

WHERE IS A REQUEST PARTICIPATION BY VIDEO CONFERENCE CALL.

IGNACIO FROM DELAWARE AND -- WHERE THE CONFERENCE CALL SHALL BE HEARD BY THE VIDEO CONFERENCE CALL SHALL BE HEARD BY ALL PARTICIPATES IN THE BOARDROOM, WHEREAS A QUORUM OF THE BOARD IS PHYSICALLY ASSEMBLED THE BOARDROOM THEREFORE MEN TRY MU PURSUANT TO VIRGINIA CODE 2.2 €" MARCH 7, 2008 THAT THE BOARD APPROVED PARTICIPATION OF BOARD MEMBERS IGNACIO, PARIS, AND DOCTOR SIMPSON BY VIDEO CONFERENCE CALL.

>> SECOND.

>> THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? THE MEMBERS CAN PARTICIPATE ELECTRONICALLY THANK YOU.

WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WELCOME EVERYONE.

TO THIS JOINT CITY COUNCIL BOARD WORK SESSION.

WE HAVE SEVERAL ITEMS ON THE AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING.

YOU CAN JUST, I KNOW EVERYONE HAS SEEN THE FORMAT BUT WE HAVE BUCKETS WE ARE TAKING A LOOK AT AND WILL TRY TO GET AT SOME OF THESE KEY QUESTIONS HERE.

JUST ONE THING TO BE CLEAR OF IS THAT WE ARE NOT HAVING PRESENTATIONS THIS EVENING.

THIS IS ALL LITERAL DISCUSSION AMONGST THE COUNCIL AND SCHOOL BOARD AND WE WILL DEFINITELY ASK PERTINENT CITY OR SCHOOL STAFF TO CHIME IN WHEREVER IS NECESSARY.

WITH THAT SAID, FIRST ITEM WE DO HAVE ON THE AGENDA IS THE SCHOOL/CITY FACILITY PLANNING.

THIS ITEM HAS COME UP MULTIPLE TIMES DURING OUR JOINT CITY SCHOOL SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS.

WE HAVE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.

I WOULD SAY, WE PROBABLY CANNOT NECESSARILY GUARANTEE TOO MANY UPDATES REGARDING NO, THE WAR BETWEEN STAFF, HOWEVER THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY AGAIN, FOR COUNCIL AND SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS TO JUST YOU KNOW, PROVIDE INPUT, FEEDBACK, THOUGHTS AND BE CAN MOVE FROM THERE.

WITH THAT SAID, AGAIN, THIS IS OPEN.

SO WHOEVER IS JUST DYING TO START THIS CONVERSATION, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE.

ALL RIGHT, MR. MAYERS, DYING TO START THE CONVERSATION.

>> FIRST OF ALL, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE IS GREAT TO BE BACK.

IS IT ON? HELLO? ALL RIGHT.

SO, I GUESS A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS KIND OF LOOKING AT THE FIRST QUESTION.

IT SEEMS LIKE THERE IS A COUPLE OF THINGS WE NEED TO SORT OUT AND IN THE NEAR TERM THEN, IT'S FEEDING BACK, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S -- IS IT ME? I TRIED TO -- IT IS MUTED.

ALL RIGHT WELL, I WILL WORK ON THAT.

ALL RIGHT, IS IT GONE YOU THINK? ALL RIGHT, SO I GUESS THE FIRST THING IS, IT SEEMED LIKE IT'D BEEN A COUPLE OF YEARS, WE USED TO HAVE A MORE REGULAR PROCESS OF TALKING THROUGH THE ENROLLMENT PROJECTIONS AS A JOINT ENROLLMENT PRODUCTION AND KIND OF HOW YOU GUYS WERE APPLYING AND HOW WE WERE LOOKING AT DEVELOPMENT AND INCORPORATING IMPACT.

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GET AN UPDATED, GET UPDATED ENROLLMENT FORECAST? I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT IS A QUESTION FOUR.

SYNDICATE IS PROBABLY SOMETHING WE WANT TO PUT IN THE WORK PLANS.

>> I WOULD, THERE IS A QUESTION, MAYBE START WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND SEE IF -- WOULD LIKE CHIME AND SHE'S BEEN A FANTASTIC GREW IN THAT AREA FOR A WHILE IN A PRODUCTIONS ARE ALWAYS EXCELLENT.

SO, I THINK SORT OF HER CHIMING IN AND WHAT SHE THINKS WOULD BE SOME GOOD NEXT STEPS WOULD BE HELPFUL AND MAYBE CITY MANAGER, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT SOMEONE TO CHIME IN.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO CHIME IN ON THAT QUESTION, ERICA?

>> SURE, THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING BOARD MEMBERS AND COUNCILMEMBERS.

I WOULD JUST -- >> ERICA, HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

I'M SORRY, HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

>> HELLO, HELLO, HELLO.

>> CAN YOU TALK TO SEE IF HE CAN HEAR YOU, IS SCHOOL?

>> CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> WE CAN.

>> SORRY ABOUT THAT, GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

FIRST I WANT TO POINT OUT THE PRODUCTIONS AND METHODOLOGY WAS CREATED THROUGH ACPS AND CITY STAFF AND WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH PLANNING AND ZONING.

AND THEIR TEAM AND NOW OTHERS.

I WOULD SAY AS A STAFF TEAM, WE CERTAINLY ASKED TO WORKING TOGETHER AND DO STILL HAVE CONVERSATIONS IS MY AUDIO NOT WORKING AGAIN? CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> IT'S US.

>> OKAY.

>> SHOULD I KEEP GOING?

>> IGNORE ME.

>> OKAY PIC EVERYONE'S EARS COMING TO THE SCREEN SO I WASN'T SURE.

WE CERTAINLY DO STILL WORK TOGETHER AS A STAFF TEAM BUT IF WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE BOARD AND CITY COUNCIL ON THE PROCESS OF ANY UPDATES WE ARE INTENDED TO MAKE, IT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE CAN PREPARE.

COVID DID IMPACT OUR ENROLLMENT.

WE'RE NOT REALLY SURE YET WHAT THE LONG-TERM IMPACT OF THAT WILL BE.

WE DID SEE SOME GROWTH AND KIND OF GETTING BACK TO SOME OF THE ORIGINAL PRODUCTION PRE-COVID THIS YEAR.

AND WITH SOME DEVELOPMENT THE CITY IS DOING, IT COULD BE THAT COVID WILL NOT HAVE A LONG-TERM IMPACT AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE ARE CONTINUING TO EXPLORE AS A STAFF TEAM BUT WE ARE HAPPY TO PREPARE ANY PRESENTATION OR WORK TOGETHER WITH CITY COUNCIL AND SCHOOL BOARD THAT YOU WILL SEE FIT, WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WE

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>> I APPRECIATE THAT.

THE REASON I ASKED THE QUESTION I OBVIOUSLY IS NOT JUST TO THAT, IT'S HOW WE MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON THAT.

I THINK THE NEXT LINE OF QUESTIONS IS MORE AROUND YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE BUILD THIS LONG-TERM PLAN BEYOND 10 YEARS, AND SO MUCH OF WHAT WE ORIGINALLY PLANNED WAS PREDICATED ON A LONG-TERM FORECAST.

BUT MAYBE THEY'RE NOT.

I DON'T KNOW, WE JUST NEED TO CHECK IN ON AND SEE KIND OF WHERE THINGS ARE AT.

THE FIRST QUESTION, AROUND WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THE DECADE THAT WE HAVE IN THE

-- >> HOLD ON.

>> I JUST WANT TO ADD ONE THING TO THE PROJECTIONS.

CERTAINLY, STAFF IS WORKING REALLY CLOSELY TOGETHER.

ONE THING I DO THINK GIVEN COVID AND PIPELINE AND DEVELOPMENT THAT IS MOVING INTO THE CITY, GIVEN SOME OF THE DYNAMICS I'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, PROBABLY AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE PROJECTIONS THAT I WOULD ARGUE IS ON THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE AND SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE AGGRESSIVE.

WHEN YOU THINK OF PRODUCTIONS VERSUS ENROLLMENT NUMBERS, THEY ARE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT AND I THINK WE ARE FINDING THAT EVEN IN OUR OWN FROM A CITY STAFF PERSPECTIVE, FROM A FUNDED STANDPOINT, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? NOT TOMORROW OR WHEN YOU'RE FROM NOW, BUT FIVE OR SIX YEARS FROM NOW.

WHAT CAN WE PROJECT AS A TREND AND I THINK IS REALLY HELPFUL.

STAFF LOOKS LIKE I BEEN REALLY IMPRESSIVE PRODUCTION WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE.

THIS I WOULD SUGGEST THE NEXT STEP, LET THE STAFF TRY PROJECT EVEN FURTHER OUT, MAYBE SOME SCENARIO-BASED RATIONALE, THEN BRING THAT BACK TO THE TWO BODIES AS FOLLOW-UP.

>> I THINK THAT WILL BE GREAT AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY LOW, MEDIUM, HIGH AND I THINK TO THE POINT, THE PROJECTIONS WERE GREAT.

THEY DID A REALLY GOOD JOB THE TWO STAFF TEAMS AND THEY GENERALLY PREDICTED VERY WELL, THE GROWTH.

BUT MOVING TO THE NEXT PHASE OF THE CONVERSATION WHICH IS AROUND -- SORRY.

[LAUGHTER] >> -- >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.

HAVE A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION.

CAN WE UNDERSTAND HOW WE HAD THE PRODUCTIONS LOOKING AT PROJECT BY PROJECT AND WHAT WE DEVELOPMENT REPORT IS USUALLY TABLE IT TELLS YOU THE SCHOOLS THAT WILL BE IMPACTED, CAPACITY NUMBERS BUT I DO START TO MAYBE TAKE THAT TABLE AND UNDERSTAND, IS THIS A DEVELOPMENT WEARING TO PUSH FOR GREATER COMMUNITY BENEFITS IN TERMS OF SCHOOLS OR THE NEXT DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA SOMETHING YOU NEED TO LOOK AT, HOW DO WE GO FROM THE PROJECTION TO THE UNDERGROUND DEVELOPMENT?

>> IT'S A REAL GOOD QUESTION.

I THINK, I'M NOT SURE THERE'S TREMENDOUS SCIENCE TO IT BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS A SERIES OF TRADE-OFFS.

BUT IT IS BOTH POSITIVE AND WHAT YOU WAY AS A COUNSEL, MAKING DECISIONS ON LAND

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YOU WILL WAY CERTAIN THINGS MORE THAN OTHERS.

I THINK THE INTENT BEHIND WHAT YOU SEE IN STAFF REPORTS RELATED TO THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS THIS LEVEL OF IMPACT, I THINK TAKING A LOOK AT CAPACITY SPECIFIC TO THE SCHOOLS, NOT JUST IN THE ONE YEAR BUT DURING CONSTRUCTION PERIOD IS NOT SUCH A BIG DEAL BUT AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION PERIOD, IT COULD BE TWO, THREE, FOUR YEARS OUT.

IF THE SCHOOL CAPACITY WILL GO UP OR DOWN, IT IS A LITTLE NUANCE TO THE PRODUCTION AND I THINK WE HAVEN'T, MY SUSPICION IS WE HAVEN'T GONE THAT FAR YET.

BUT AGAIN, I WILL CAUTION YOU, PROJECTIONS OR JUST NUMBERS THEY PROBABLY WAY AS IT RELATES TO COVERAGES LOOK LIKE IT WILL BE A PROBLEM, OR LOOKS IT WILL BE SUFFICIENTLY CAPACITY WISE.

BUT NOT JUST FOR THE EXISTING SCHOOL, AGAIN, PART OF THE PROJECTIONS IS, WHAT IS THE PLAN MOVING FORWARD WERE ADDING CAPACITY TO AN EXISTING SCHOOL OR A NEW SCHOOL OR IS IT A PLAN PROCESS, ARE WE NOTICING THAT IN THE LATER YEARS OF LET'S SAY SIX AND SEVENTH GRADE, THOSE NUMBERS ARE INCREASING WHICH MEANS WE CAN LIKELY SEE AN INCREASE IN HIGH SCHOOL VERSUS OUR LOWER, FIRST AND SECOND GRADERS, THOSE NUMBERS MIGHT START TO LOOK LIKE THEY ARE TAPERING DOWN.

ALL RELATES TO HOW WE SHOULD PLAN OUT ALL OF OUR FACILITIES NOT JUST THE SCHOOL FACILITIES.

SAINT BILLY PARKS IN RE FOR DESIGNING PROGRAM FOR PROJECTIONS THAT ARE TODAY, THEY MAY LOOK A LOT DIFFERENT FIVE YEARS FROM NOW.

THE SAME KIND OF THING WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN FOR DEVELOPMENT PROJECT WHERE IT MIGHT BE PROPOSED FOR APARTMENT COMPLEX, YOU MIGHT LOOK AT THAT AND SAY IT'S LIKELY NOT ANY SCHOOL CHILDREN OR VERY FEW BUT MAYBE OVER TIME THAT MAY CHANGE DEPENDING ON HOW THE PROJECT IS REALLY DESIGNED.

IT IS A LONG WINDED WAY TO SAY YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT EACH CASE BY CASE.

>> DOCTOR -- >> THINK YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING TO THE CONVERSATION.

MR. WILSON, YOU TALK ABOUT LOOKING AT THE MOMENT PRODUCTION AND I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU WOULD THINKING OF IT BEING PRESENTED BY ONE OF THE THINGS ANECDOTALLY NOTE IS THAT IN THE CIP PLANNING BUT THEY USED TO BE AN APPENDIX IN THE BACK.

THEY HAD THE DATA AND HAS NOT BEEN APPEARING THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S BECAUSE IT WAS DISRUPTED BUT LIKE IN THE CIP PROPOSED BUDGET BOOK WERE PRESENT, EACH SCHOOL DOES HAVE ENROLLMENT DATA ON IT BUT I THINK YOU KNOW, SEEING THE ALTOGETHER IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AND ALSO UTILIZATION RATE.

I THINK I'VE SEEN THAT LONG-RANGE FACILITIES PLAN.

I THINK SEEING THAT EVERY YEAR, IF THAT COULD BE INCLUDED, THE FUTURE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF DISRUPTIVE, THE PROCESS BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO SHARE THAT WE HAVE A SCHOOL BOARD POLICY THAT WE WILL CONSIDER REDISTRICTING EVERY FIVE YEARS IF NEEDED.

WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH THE NEW SCHOOL PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE COMING BECAUSE ALL SCHOOLS HAVE BEEN PART OF THE PANDEMIC THERE WERE -- PRE-PANDEMIC THERE WERE ALL

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AS WE BUILD NEW SCHOOLS WERE ADDING CAPACITY IN THE NEW BUILDS AND THEN ALSO, BECAUSE OF POPULATION SHIFTS AND THINGS, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY OF REDISTRICTING EVERY FIVE YEARS, WHICH WE ARE LOOKING AT GOING AT THAT IN THE COMING YEARS.

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>> IF I COULD ADDRESS THAT?

>> YES.

>> IN THE CIP BOOK, THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT, DOCTOR RIEF.

THE MOMENT PRODUCTION IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET BOOK SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT DONE YET.

WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THEM WITH THE CITY BUT THEY ARE IN THE APPROVED CIP BUDGET BOOK IF YOU GET THE LATEST VERSION IT SHOULD BE IN THERE AND WE WORKED ON THE FINAL APPROVED BUDGET YOU PUT THAT YOU APPROVED ON THURSDAY.

AND IT WILL BE THERE AND THAT IS JUST RECENT SO NOT SOMETHING YOU MISSED, WE HAVE RECENTLY PUT OUT THAT FINAL VERSION OF THAT.

SO THAT THEY ARE INCLUDED AND THE CAPACITY AND UTILIZATION SHOULD BE AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY.

AS PART OF THAT AS WELL.

BUT IN GENERAL, A LOT PEOPLE DO NOT FIND THE CIP BOOK AND SO IT WILL BE GOOD FOR IT TO LIVE SOMEWHERE ELSE.

BECAUSE YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DIG FOR THAT INFORMATION PROBABLY.

SO WE CAN FIND A BETTER WAY TO SHOW THE ON THE WEBSITE MAY BE.

>> OKAY MR. WILSON.

>> AND I APPRECIATE COUNCILWOMAN GASKINS AND DOCTOR RIEF RAISE THE QUESTIONS.

PART OF THE REASON I THINK I WANT TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION IS THAT WHILE DEVELOPMENT CERTAINLY IS A FACTOR IN WHAT THE STUDENT GENERATION RATE IS CERTAINLY IS IMPORTANT AND I WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK MATH AND MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING WITH THE BIGGEST DRIVER THAT WE HAVE SEEN OVER THE LAST DECADE AND 1/2, WE STARTED THIS IT WAS ALL ABOUT THE STUDENT GENERATION, KINDERGARTEN CAPTURE RATE WHICH YOU KNOW, THE ECONOMY AND THE GREAT RECESSION BECAUSE ACPS WILL GETTING A LOT MORE CONSUMER USES WE HAD ELEMENTARY CRISIS.

WITHIN THE LAST DECADE IT SHIFTED AND WE HAD THE SURVIVAL RATE THAT WENT MUCH HIGHER AND MORE KIDS STAY IN THE SYSTEM AND THOSE THINGS ARE THINGS THAT COULD BE HEAVILY IMPACTED BY THE PANDEMIC AND A REACTION TO THE PANDEMIC.

I JUST WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK THE MATH AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT DOES TO THE FORECAST BECAUSE BOTH OF THOSE HAVE BIG IMPACTS OVERALL HOW WE SEE THINGS.

I GUESS AGAIN, SHIFT TO THE CONVERSATION OF WHAT WE FIGURE HOW MANY KIDS WERE GETTING, WHAT DO YOU DO ABOUT IT? IT DOES SEEM AS YOU LOOK THROUGH LONG-RANGE PLANNING, YOU LOOK BACK A DECADE OLD COLLECTION OF DATA AND LOOKING AT POSSIBLE CAPACITY PROJECTS, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

FIRST OF ALL, ALL OF THE NUMBERS I THINK MACARTHUR SAID 37 MILLION, WHAT DID WE END UP BACK AT MACARTHUR? MAYBE DOUBLE THAT? SO, ALL THE NUMBERS -- ALL OF THOSE NUMBERS ARE MUCH MUCH BIGGER.

BUT, WHAT I GUESS I DON'T KNOW, IS WHICH PROJECTS WE ARE PULLING OFF THE SHELVES NOW.

AS WE GET BEYOND THE 10 YEARS, WHICH PROJECTS WILL WE BE PULLING OFF AND SAYING, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE DOING THE CAPACITY PROJECT AND THIS IS WHY.

AS WELL AS LOOK AT THE INVENTORY OF PROPERTIES THAT WE EITHER HAVE OR WE KNOW ARE COMING AND DETERMINING OKAY, WHERE ARE WE DOING THINGS AND I THINK PARTICULARLY WHEN, AND THIS IS WHERE WE GET INVOLVED OBVIOUS IN THE FUNDING SIDE FOR SURE BUT ALSO, THERE IS AT LEAST ONE AND MAY BE TO IN THE MIX THERE THAT, AS POTENTIAL SITES AND I THINK UNDERSTANDING WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, PRODUCTION BUT THEN FEEDING INTO WHERE THE BOARD WANTS TO GO AS FAR AS WE NEED CAPACITY WITH AND ALSO HOW YOU PROGRAM WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT K-8 AND K5, AND WHICH WAS THE PREFERRED, ALL THAT STUFF I FEEL LIKE THAT IS STUFF WE HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT NOW, NOT 10 YEARS FROM NOW.

THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE TALK ABOUT.

>> MR. CHAPMAN.

>> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.

TOOK OFF THAT I THINK ONE THING WE HAD WAS LONG-RANGE PLAN AND ONE OF THE THINGS I DID WAS PICK UP THE FIRST PAGE OF CHAPTER 5 BECAUSE IT DID LAYOUT WHERE THEY WANTED

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[B. Out of School Time]

I THINK BOARDS HAVE DONE GOOD WORK AND IT'S FRANKLY AN UPDATE LOOK AT THE FISCAL CHALLENGES AS WELL BRINGING UP TO DATE TOO.

TO BE CLEAR, JUST PUT THAT OUT TO THE GROUP AS A SUGGESTION HOW WE MIGHT GO FORWARD.

I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR WHAT PEOPLE THINK.

>> I GUESS THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR THE BODY, IS, WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE FROM A PROCESS PERSPECTIVE?

WE PUT TOGETHER THE JOINT COMMITTEE SEVERAL YEARS AGO, BECAUSE -- >> DON'T WORRY.

>> THE DOOR.

BECAUSE WE HAD TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE PLAN THESE INVESTMENTS LONG-TERM.

AND I THINK A BIG PART OF THAT -- A BIG PART OF THAT DISCUSSION WAS AROUND, HOW DO WE AVOID THIS IN THE FUTURE? HOW DO WE AVOID BRINGING TOGETHER A COMMITTEE LIKE THAT.

I GUESS THE QUESTION FOR EVERYONE IS, HOW DO WE, AND MAYBE IS THE QUESTION FOR THE MANAGER AND ACPS, BUT HOW DO WE FIX THAT DOOR?

[LAUGHTER] >> WHERE IS SUSAN?

>> THERE WE GO! YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE COLLECTIVELY PLAN THIS ROADMAP SO THAT IT IS NOT JUST YOU KNOW, YOU COULD ONLY GOT TO COME UP WITH A LIST OF PROJECTS AND SAY LIKE THIS IS WHAT WE NEED OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS.

BUT WOULD NOT GOING TO BE GREAT IF YOU JUST COME UP WITH A LIST AND SAY HERE, THROW IT OVER THE FENCE.

I THINK THE STAFF NEEDS TO COLLECTIVELY WORK TOGETHER AND PLAN OUT THIS ROADMAP.

PARTICULAR TO THE EXTENT IT WILL INVOLVE CITY FACILITIES.

POTENTIALLY.

THAT'S REALLY WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, HOW DO WE DESIGN A PROCESS TO DO THAT?

>> I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE WE START.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD THE CONVERSATION MULTIPLE TIMES IN THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS AND I THINK IT DOES, STARTS WITH THE STAFF.

SORT OF COMING UP WITH THE ROADMAP.

I THINK THAT'S THE PRIMARY THING.

HHI THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE JOINT MEETINGS TOGETHER WHICH, I MEAN CITY STAFF CAN CHIME IN ON THAT.

I KNOW THAT DOCTOR HART HAS DONE SOME WORK AND CITY STAFF TO HAVE THOSE MEETINGS START UP, BUT I THINK IT IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE PUT BEFORE BOTH BODIES FIRST TO REACT TO.

I WOULD HESITATE FOR US TO SIT HERE AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO SEE BECAUSE I DON'T NECESSARILY FIND THAT TO BE PRODUCTIVE AS MUCH AS WE HAVE THE EXPERTS THAT DEVELOPED THAT RED AND WE HAVE A SORT OF TIMELINE FOR THE ROADMAP COMES BACK TO BOTH BODIES.

WE CAN REACT TO THAT AND MORE DIRECTION IN THAT WAY.

SO.

>> IF I COULD, I THINK THIS WILL BE HELPFUL TO BOTH BODIES.

WHEN I THINK OF WHAT YOU'VE JUST DESCRIBED YOU KNOW, THINK ABOUT IT AND YOUR PROGRAMMATIC OPPORTUNITIES.

BOTH EXISTING AND FUTURE.

BOTH FROM A SCHOOL STANDPOINT AND CITY STANDPOINT.

SO YOU HAVE PROGRAMS. YOU HAVE DATA, THAT IS ENROLLMENT, THE PIPELINE DEVELOPMENT, ALL THOSE

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AND THOSE HAVE TO BE, THEY CANNOT JUST BE HIGH LEVEL, THE THIRD PIECE IS ONE I THINK THE MAYOR WAS HIGHLIGHTING.

ALSO ABOUT THE FISCAL COMPONENTS, WHAT CAN WE REALLY AFFORD TO DO? I THINK THERE'S REALLY THREE MAIN PIECES.

THE PROGRAMMATIC PIECE, THE FISCAL PEACE AND ROLL CALL THE DATA ANALYTICS PIECE.

THOSE THREE PIECES YOU THINK ABOUT THE TRADITIONAL COPY HAS A PLAN OR MASTER PLAN OR VIRTUALLY ANYTHING.

YOU WILL INVOLVE THOSE THREE THINGS.

MAYBE THE DIFFERENCE IN WHAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE US AND BOTH BODIES THINK ABOUT WHICH I THINK YOU ALREADY DOING, LET'S NOT THINK ABOUT THEM AS INDIVIDUAL PIECES.

I THINK MY SHORT TIME HERE I CAN FIND A FACILITY PLAN.

I CAN FIND INDIVIDUAL PROGRAMS, I CAN FIND FISCAL PRODUCTIONS THAT ARE SCHOOL AND CITY.

THIS WOULD BE SHORT -- SORT OF TOGETHER AS A SINGLE COMMUNITY THINKING, WHAT OTHER PROGRAMS WANT TO DO THAT MEET THE NEED THAT WE ARE SEEING IN THE DATA AND HOW TO REFLECT DO THAT? AND WHAT I MIGHT SUGGEST IS, IF THOSE ARE THE THREE PIECES BOTH BODIES ARE COMFORTABLE WITH, IT IS INCUMBENT UPON THE STAFF TO COME BACK PROBABLY NEXT UP WOULD BE, COME BACK WITH THE SCOPE OF HOW WE WOULD DO IT IN A TIMEFRAME.

SO THAT, AND I WOULD SUGGEST IT IS IMPORTANT WE TRY TO DO IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE BEFORE THE NEXT FISCAL BUDGET SEASON REALLY GETS HEATED BECAUSE THIS IS CLEARLY INFORMATION THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.

YOUNG COUNCILMEMBER CHAPMAN, TO THE POINT THERE IS A READY DATA OUT THERE AND I THINK IT'S A COMBINATION OF US THINKING DIFFERENTLY THAT INSTEAD OF, I DID A STUDY, DID A STUDY, DID A STUDY, WERE TRYING TO GET TO RESULT AND THAT IS USING THE BLUEPRINT OR FRAMEWORK.

WHAT DOES IT GENERALLY LOOK LIKE, RECOGNIZING YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT OR EVOLVE IT AND CHECK ON EVERY SO OFTEN? THOSE THREE PIECES SEEM LIKE THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECES THAT I CAN FIND.

AND EMBEDDED IN ALL THAT DATA IS ABOUT THE EXISTING WORK.

BECAUSE I DO THINK TO BE VERY PROUD, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF REALLY GOOD THINGS AND HAVE A LOT OF GREAT PROGRAMS, A LOT OF POSITIVE THINGS, LET'S MAKE SURE THOSE ARE -- AT THE FOUNDATION BUT RECOGNIZES SOME OF THOSE FOUNDATION ELEMENTS MIGHT CHANGE.

A RECREATIONAL FACILITY MAKE LOOK DIFFERENT AND I THINK THAT IS THE CREATIVE SIDE OF THIS.

IT IS NOT JUST DATA AND ANALYSIS.

HIS THINKING ABOUT, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE AS A COMMUNITY FOR A SINGLE APPROACH?

I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT BOTH THE BOARD AND COUNSEL CAN -- >> I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT APPROACH.

IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN I'M JUST TRYING REMEMBER THE LAST MEETING.

I FEEL LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF SORT OF THAT DEVELOPING IN SOME SORT OF REAL-TIME DASHBOARD AND SINCE WE'RE LOOKING AT A CURRENT PROJECTS AND WE CAN SEE HOW THEY ARE DOING BUT ALSO LOOKING AT CURRENT OR FUTURE PROJECTS POTENTIAL PROJECTS WITHIN THE SAME FRAMEWORK SO THAT THINGS DON'T SEEM DISJOINTED.

I THINK BOTH BODIES FOR STAFF IN THE COMMUNITY, JUST TO BE ABLE TO SEE YOU KNOW, WHAT THE THINKING IS.

SO UNDER OATH THAT IS POSSIBLE BUT I IMAGINE LIKE THOSE THREE BUCKETS, I THINK OUR ESSENTIAL THINK THEY'RE EXCELLENT AND YOU KNOW, ANYWAY THAT WE CAN COME IN WITH SO MANY DASHBOARDS, SORRY.

BUT ANY WAY THAT WE CAN MAKE THAT A MESSAGE YOU KNOW THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE AND ENGAGE IN WHAT WE'RE DOING, I THINK WOULD ALSO BE REALLY HELPFUL.

MS. GASKINS THEN DOCTOR RIEF.

>> I TOO THINK THOSE ARE GREAT BUCKETS AND I LIKE THE BREAKDOWN OF THE THREE.

ADVANTAGES AND ON THE FISCAL BUCKET.

IN THE CURRENT PLAN, THERE IS A CHAPTER THAT TALKS ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES FOR FINANCING.

BUT IT DOESN'T KINDA BREAK DOWN WHAT OTHER FACTORS WE SHOULD CONSIDER IN THINKING ABOUT EACH OF THE OPTIONS.

OR EVEN COST-BENEFIT ANALYSIS OF CHOOSING SOME OF THOSE.

I THINK WILL BE HELPFUL WHATEVER THIS LOOKS LIKE MAYBE THERE'S SOME FRAMING QUESTIONS OR SUMMARIES TO HELP US THINK THROUGH WHAT THINGS WILL HAVE TO WAY WITH EACH OF THOSE DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND I THINK WHEN THAT WAS THROWN OUT WAS P3,

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>> I'M HEARING FROM THE CAPITAL SIDE, THAT ALSO INCLUDE OPERATIONAL COST?

>> I THINK SO.

>> MR. CHAPMAN.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

I APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUE MENTIONING ONE OF THE THINGS AS WE LOOK AT DIFFERENT WAYS OF FUNDING AND ALTERNATIVE WAYS OF FUNDING, ONE OF THINGS THAT WE MAYBE HAVE MADE A MISSTEP ON IN THE PAST WAS TALKING ABOUT EACH BODIES COMFORT LEVEL.

I KNOW A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO I THINK THE CITY WAS PUSHING HARD TO LOOK AT P3 AND WE STARTED TO MOVE DOWN THE PATHWAY NOT JUST FOR THE CITY, PROJECTS BUT -- AND WE MET SOME RESISTANCE IN THE PAST AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE APPROACHED IT THE RIGHT WAY.

IF WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT ALTERNATIVE METHODS OF FUNDING PARTICULARLY P3'S, HAVING THE NEEDED DISCUSSION AND UNDERSTANDING A COMFORT LEVEL OF THE PARTNERS.

I THINK WE AS A CITY, JUST TO GIVE PEOPLE A HISTORY THERE THINK WE ARE THE CITY

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OBVIOUSLY, IT WAS SUPER AGGRESSIVE AND WAY OVER EVERYWHERE HIS THINKING ON THE CITY SIDE.

KIND OF UNDERSTANDING WHAT A P3 COULD LOOK LIKE AND WHAT THE COMFORT LEVEL IS AS WELL FOR STAFF, DOES A MAJOR WORK ON THAT I THINK WOULD BE NECESSARY AND ON HOW THE

STRUCTURE AND PROCESS WOULD BE TO COME TO THAT DECISION BUT -- >> DOCTOR RIEF.

>> THANK YOU.

THAT IS A GREAT CONVERSATION.

I THINK THE FISCAL BUCKET AND REALLY LIKE MR. MANAGER, WE SING TRYING TO INTEGRATE THESE DIFFERENT THINGS BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF WORK BUT IT FEELS LIKE IT IS IN SILOS AND KIND OF COMING TO THIS MEETING AND GIVING SOME THOUGHT TO IT, JUST A COUPLE KIND OF OBSERVATIONS I WANTED TO SHARE.

AS A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER IN LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, IT FELT LIKE WE HAVE OUR ONE

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SO I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT BECAUSE I THINK HAVING THIS INTEGRATED DOCUMENT OR DELIVERABLE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WOULD REALLY BE HELPFUL.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE SCHOOLS, THE CAPITOL PLANNING FOR THE SCHOOLS FITTED TO THE OVERALL PLANNING FOR THE CITY AND I THINK IT WILL HELP WITH OR TALK ABOUT THINGS LIKE SERVICES AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND THE OTHER THING I JUST, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE BEST PLACE IT TOWARD HIM BUT IT SEEMS LIKE ANOTHER SILO WE WORK AND SOMETIMES IS LOOKING AT THE FACILITIES PHYSICAL STRUCTURES AND LOOKING AT RECREATIONAL SPACE.

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>> DO WE HAVE CATHERINE ON THE LINE?

>>? , YES.

CATHERINE IS ON THE LINE.

THE GOOD NEWS, I AM WITH PLANNING AND ZONING.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?

>> CATHERINE, IF YOU JUST HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

>> WHILE CATHERINE GETS READY, ONE THING AND THAT MAY BE HELPFUL WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THIS, I THINK ABOUT IT AS SINGLE REAL ESTATE.

AND THAT MIGHT HELP FRAME THE CONVERSATION ABOUT RECREATIONAL FACILITIES, THE LAND, SOME RESPECTS, YOU NEED TO LOOK AT IT AS TRUE REAL ESTATE AND HOW TO MAXIMIZE THAT, AND TO YOUR POINT, I THINK THAT IF YOU DO IT THAT WE START TO LOOK AT OPPORTUNITIES THAT PERHAPS HAVE BEEN LESS INCLINED TO BE LOOKED AT BEFORE.

YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING FROM, HOW DO YOU BUILD SPACE.

HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH PARKING LOTS, LIGHTING, ALL OF THE OPERATIONAL COSTS THAT ADD UP.

BUT THEN, WHEN YOU COUPLE THAT WITH, HOW DOES IT SIT ON SAY THE SCHOOL SITE AND MAXIMIZES THE USE OF THAT AT NIGHT FRANCIS.

BUT THEN, HOW DO SOME OF THE REC CENTERS MAY SUPPORT MAYBE EARLY LEARNING, EARLY WARNING LEARNING AND THINGS I THINK SOME OF THOSE ARE HAPPENING, BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT FROM A TRUE REAL ESTATE, RECOGNIZE ITS A FINITE RESOURCE, I THINK IT CHANGES THE CONVERSATION A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE MORE CREATIVE AT THAT POINT.

I WILL TELL YOU WHAT I FIND HERE IS, THAT WE REALLY PART BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF NEEDS AND IT WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT TO FIT EVERYTHING ON NEW PROPERTY.

IT WILL HAVE TO BE ON SOME OF THE EXISTING FACILITIES.

AT A MUCH DIFFERENT LEVEL THAN PERHAPS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BE DONE.

>> CATHERINE, DO WE HAVE YOU?

>> YES, CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> YES.

>> GREAT! GOOD AFTERNOON I AM WITH THE CITY DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND ZONING.

THE GOOD NEWS IS, I LOVE THE QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AND A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT YOU ARE REQUESTING WE ALREADY HAVE.

WE STARTED THE JOINT FACILITY MASTER PLAN PROCESS, WE KICKED IT OFF RIGHT WITH THE SCHOOL SHUT DOWN FOR COVID.

IT WAS GREAT TIMING.

BUT WE CONTINUED OUR WORK AND WE HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION ALREADY.

THE FOUNDATIONAL DATA YOU KNOW, I THINK, NECESSARY TO START, TO HELP YOU MAKE DECISIONS ON JOINT PLANNING IN THE FUTURE.

AND SO YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS, AND I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO A LOT OF DETAIL IF YOU DON'T NEED ME TO BECAUSE I GAVE AN UPDATE A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.

BUT A LOT OF THE INFORMATION WE HAVE, EXISTING CONDITIONS, IT TELLS US FOR

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WE ALSO HAVE BASELINE CITY FACILITY NEEDS AND PROGRAMMING NEEDS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AND DETERMINE THE FUTURE WHERE IT MAKES SENSE TO DO JOINT PLANNING.

WE HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION AND WE MEET MONTHLY, MORE THAN MONTHLY, BUT THERE IS A MONTHLY MEETING CALLED THE CAPITOL COUNCIL MEETING WHERE WE MEET TO DISCUSS THESE HIGH-LEVEL ISSUES AND THE NEXT STEP, WHERE THE HAVE THE MEETING ON THE BOOKS IS TO START GETTING INTO THE GRANULAR AND I THINK THAT WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU WITH SOME YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME NEAR TERM AND WE ALSO LONG TERM OPTIONS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT.

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I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> MR. CHAPMAN.

>> I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A QUESTION.

BUT I THINK THE CITY MANAGER AND GIVEN CURRENT OF THE SITUATION AND PROCESS, I THINK THE QUESTION I WOULD PUSH BACK AT YOU OR THROW AT YOU FOR AN ANSWER, HOW DO YOU SEE EACH OF THE BODIES MAKING A DECISION, IN PARTICULAR, HOW DO YOU SEE DEALING WITH WE DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE ON A SAME CONCEPT OR STANCE OR USE OF FACILITIES AND I'LL GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES.

WE'VE ALREADY IN THE RECENT PAST KIND OF DEALT WITH.

WHETHER IT IS ON MACARTHUR, THE POOL AT HOWARD, LOCATION OF HOUSING ON SITES.

THOSE ARE SOME BIG ISSUES THAT YOU KNOW WE HAVE NOT NECESSARILY 100 PERCENT AGREED ON.

MANY TIMES EVERYONE COMES OUT OF COURSE ON THE OTHER SIDE BUT I THINK AS WE START TO TALK HIGH-LEVEL ABOUT WORKING TOGETHER, SITE-SPECIFIC, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROCESS LOOKS LIKE IF WE DON'T NECESSARILY SEE EYE TO EYE ON SOMETHING.

>> I CAN JUMP IN ON THAT.

A GREAT QUESTION BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY GOING TO HAPPEN.

AND YOU KNOW, THE BEST PLANNING WAS THE RESULT IN YOUR OPINION BEING DIFFERENT THAN YOUR OPINION.

BUT WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS, THERE ARE COUPLE OF THINGS.

ONE IS, THE FOCUS ON THE DESIRED OUTCOME IS REALLY IMPORTANT, AS WELL AS SHARING OF INFORMATION TO WHY YOUR POSITION AS SUCH AND SUCH AND YOUR POSITION IS DIFFERENT.

I THINK A LOT OF THAT SORT OF GETS WELDED TOGETHER BUT IF YOU HAVE THE TIME, ONE OF

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WE HAVE TO GIVE YOU TIME TO DIGEST THE INFORMATION AND BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THE PARAMETERS BEHIND HER DECISION.

I USED TO DO IT, CALL PROS AND CONS BUT DO IT AT THE LEVEL WHERE YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO MAKE A DECISION AS YOUR MEETING THE PROS AND CONS.

YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO DIGEST IT, A CHANCE PERHAPS TO VISIT SITES IF THERE IS A

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AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHEN IT DEALS WITH FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY WHERE THERE IS A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY ABOUT WHAT SHOULD BE THERE, ULTIMATELY THE COUNCIL HAS TO DECIDE WHETHER THAT NEEDS TO BE FUNDED OR NOT, I THINK THIS KIND OF

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AND THE MORE THAT YOU DO THAT, THE MORE I THINK THE DIFFERENCES WILL NOT BE WIDE, THERE WILL BE SMALL DIFFERENCES.

MIGHT BE THAT WE AGREE THERE WILL BE A POLE BUT THIS IS WHAT WE ARE THINKING OR, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE OTHER EXAMPLES YOU'VE MADE THE OTHER THING IS, THE MORE WE MAXIMIZE THE REAL ESTATE, THE MORE ROOM YOU HAVE.

SO RIGHT NOW, YOU DON'T HAVE THAT.

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BUT WE HAD PIECES.

THE MORE WE CAN MAXIMIZE THOSE IN A POSITIVE WAY THE MORE ROOM YOU HAVE TO MAYBE STRETCH A LITTLE BIT ON SOME THINGS AND OTHERS NOT.

BUT IT IS REALLY INCUMBENT UPON STAFF TO GIVE YOU THE KEY DECISION POINTS, THE KEY CONSIDERATIONS AND DETERMINATIONS TO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, FOCUSED ON THE OUTCOME.

AND I THINK THAT IS WHERE YOU END UP FOR A GENERALIZED PROCESS, THAT'S WHY THINK YOU CAN SEE MAY BE DIFFERENCES OF OPINION BUT THEY WILL BE SMALLER, AND WHEN THEY ARE BIG, I DON'T THING HONESTLY, THAT THE UNDERSTANDING WILL STILL BE THERE.

I DON'T THINK IT WILL CARRY HEAVY WEIGHT TO THE NEXT DECISION.

>> I WILL CHIME IN ON THIS ONE.

THEN TURN OVER TO THE MAYOR.

YOU KNOW, I THINK, A A LOT OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MR. CHAPMAN, THAT CO-LOCATION DISCUSSION FOR EXAMPLE AND WE I THINK, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID YOU KNOW ON OUR SIDE, WAS AS WERE HAVING OUR DISCUSSIONS ABOUT YOU KNOW, A PARTICULAR SITE IN QUESTION, WITH SOME VERY SPECIFIC OUTCOMES THAT WE FOCUSED ON.

WHEN WE WERE MAKING DECISIONS AND HAVING THE DISCUSSION, IT WAS YOU KNOW, WE HAD AGREED ON YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO SEE COME OUT OF THE SPACE AND I THINK WE WERE DOING THAT OURSELVES.

BUT THERE WASN'T, I THINK TO MR. JIM PARAJON'S POINT THERE WAS A BUILT-IN MECHANISM FOR, WHAT DO WE WANT TO COME OUT OF THE SITE AS A COMMUNITY.

OR YOU KNOW, FROM BOTH COUNSEL AND SCHOOL PERSPECTIVE.

AND I THINK WILL HAVE THOSE POINTS AS WE GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU

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AND SO WE JUST HAVE TO YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COMMUNICATING, ANYTHING HAVING MORE JOINT DISCUSSIONS TOGETHER WOULD LIKELY BE REALLY HELPFUL IN JUST BEING ABLE TO HEAR WHAT SCHOOL PRIORITIES ARE, WHA CITY PRIORITIES ARE, AND WHICH OF THOSE MATCH BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE, THAT WE HAD THE FOCUS ON THE ONES THAT MATCHED IN ORDER TO MAKE OUR DECISIONS ACTING.

BECAUSE I THINK IN EVERY DISCUSSION WILL BE SOME POINTS THAT MATCH.

SO I'LL GO TO THE MAYOR, AND THEN -- >> .

I THINK THE WAY THE CITY MANAGER PRINT FRAMED THE PROCESS WAS REALLY GOOD AND YOU ARE RIGHT THAT WE NEED THE STAFF TO COME BACK TO US WITH SOMETHING WE CAN REACT TO.

I REALLY WANT TO SEIZE ON SOMETHING THAT MS. CARRAWAY SAID BECAUSE I THINK IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND I HOPE EVERYONE IS KIND OF REVIEWING SOME OF THESE DOCUMENTS AND THE WORK WE'VE ALREADY DONE BECAUSE WE HAVE DONE A TON OF IT, NOTING REALLY IMPORTANT THING, SO MUCH OF THE TIME, DISCUSSIONS WE HAVE BETWEEN CITY COUNCIL AND THE SCHOOL BOARD AS IT RELATES TO SCHOOL CAPACITY AROUND LAND AND LAND ACQUISITION HOW TO GET MORE LAND, DURING THIS DEVELOPING PROJECT WHY ARE WE GETTING LAND? IF YOU LOOK AT THE JOINT FACILITIES PLAN, LOOK AT THE LONG-RANGE PLAN, BY MY

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THERE ARE EIGHT PROJECTS WHERE WE CAN ADD SIGNIFICANT CAPACITY ON AN EXISTING SITE.

THAT DOESN'T COUNT 17 -- IT DOES NOT COUNT CITY SITES AND IT DOES NOT COUNT AND IN

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WHICH WE HAVE AT LEAST ONE MAYBE TWO COMING AT US VERY SOON.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 11, 12 OR 13 PROPERTIES THAT WE OWN TODAY, THAT GIVEN HOW WE SPEND MONEY ON THE CIP, EVEN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THAT IS TWO DECADES WORTH OF BUILDING BEYOND THE CURRENT 10 YEAR CIP.

EVEN IF WILL BE AGGRESSIVE AND SAY MAYBE IT'S 15 YEARS WORTH, WE'VE STILL GOT, WE HAD TO FIGURE ALL THAT OUT! THE FIGURE ALL THAT OUT AND ALIGN IT TO CAPACITY AND THEN, START TO BUDGET FOR IT.

IN SOME WAYS, THE CONVERSATION AROUND LAND IS REALLY A SIDESHOW TO THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DEAL WIT ALL OF THIS.

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THERE IS A LOT OF PROPERTIES WHERE WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADD CAPACITY AND WE PLAN TO ADD CAPACITY THAT WE HAD NO IDEA HOW WE WILL PAY FOR AND WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

>> MR. CHAPMAN AND THEN I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY MOVE BECAUSE I'M A TIMEKEEPER TOO.

>> I WILL QUICKLY SAY THIS BECAUSE I THINK THE MAYOR'S COME IS KIND OF PRECIOUS IN ANOTHER DIRECTION.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

I THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT IN A WAY, I THINK IT IS ABOUT LOOKING AT YOU KNOW, WHAT THE SCHOOL HAS IN TERMS OF GOALS.

WHERE THEY FIT IN THE CIP, BUT ALSO, WITHIN THE GREATER SCOPE OF WHAT IS NEEDED IN THE CITY, IT'S BEEN SAID SEVERAL TIMES.

NOT CREATING ADDITIONAL LAND.

SO TRYING TO PULL MORE OF WHAT WE NEED AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO WHETHER IT IS FROM THE CITY SIDE WITH THE SCHOOL SIDE, INTO THE SITE THAT WE HAVE, I THINK IS, INITIALLY THE STRATEGY WE HAVE.

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WE THINK WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE AREN'T ALWAYS GOING TO MATCH AND IS NOT NECESSARILY BAD.

DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO SLOW DOWN OR STOP, LOOKING AT TRYING TO SOLVE FOR THOSE PARTIES.

BECAUSE I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO HOUSING AGAIN, YOU KNOW, OUR STAFF, CITY OR SCHOOLS, NEED HOUSING NEED THE OPPORTUNITY MANY TIMES WANT TO TALK ABOUT HAVING THE WILL LIVE WITHIN OUR LOCALITY BUT UNLESS WE ARE SERIOUS ABOUT THAT, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM, WHETHER IT IS DOLLARS GOING TO DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS HAPPENING, USING MUNICIPAL LAND OR SCHOOL AND TO MAKE IT HAPPEN, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO COME TO GRIPS WITH WHERE WE ARE ON THAT PRIORITY, IT IS A TOUGH ONE BUT I THINK IT IS THE STARKEST EXAMPLE OF THE DYNAMICS OF HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER.

>> MS. GASKINS.

>> THANK YOU.

I HAVE A CLARIFYING QUESTION BEFORE WE MOVE ON.

ONE OF THE BULLETS I WAS PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN WAS AROUND THE ATHLETIC FIELD.

I'M JUST WONDERING IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE CAPTURED AND ADDRESSED IN THE MANAGERS PROPOSAL, IS A SEPARATE AND THAT WE NEED TO SPEND TIME ON? OR IS A DIFFERENT PLANNING DOCUMENT OR TOOL THAT WE NEED IN ORDER TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT FIELD AND FIELD CAPACITY?

>> I THINK THAT IS INCLUSIVE OF THE EFFORT.

I WOULD SAY YOU PROBABLY HAVE A SHORT-TERM ISSUE RIGHT NOW.

THAT PERHAPS, SOME DIALOGUE WITH TWO BODIES NEEDS TO OCCUR, BECAUSE THERE IS SOME IMMEDIATE NEED FOR THOSE.

I THINK THE REST OF THAT, I THINK DOES FIT TO THE PROCESS I OUTLINED.

>> I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO END WITH THE QUESTION, JUST A REALLY BASIC QUESTION.

I THINK, WHEN DO YOU NEED A YEA OR NAY ON THE SCHOOL BOARD FOR DOING SOMETHING WITH THE FIELD?

>> I WOULD SUGGEST AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

MEANING, THE NEED IS I THINK, ESTABLISHED SO, IF THAT CAN BE DONE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MEETINGS OR MEETING, I THINK THAT WILL BE APPROPRIATE.

AND WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU ABOUT THAT DECISION, WHAT I CAN TELL, WHATEVER, I BELIEVE THE, IF THAT WERE A RECREATION FIELD FACILITY, MORE ENHANCED, TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING HAPPENING BEFORE THAT PERIOD ANYWAY.

WHEN I THINK OF THE COST BENEFIT, THAT SEEMS TO RISE PRETTY EASILY TO PERHAPS A CONCLUSION THAT LET'S GO AHEAD AND ENHANCE THAT AS A RECREATION FACILITY, RECOGNIZING THAT IT DOES NOT FORGO ANY NEED FOR SCHOOL OPPORTUNITIES IN THE FUTURE AND I THINK IF THE SCHOOL BOARD WAS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST, SOONER RATHER THAN LATER BECAUSE IT IS A PROBLEM FOR US AND ESPECIALLY AS WE ARE LOOKING AT SOME OF THE CITY SCHOOL FACILITY AREAS ARE COMING OFF-LINE DURING CONSTRUCTION, IT IS AN IMMEDIATE NEED NOW AND THAT'S HOW I WOULD SUGGEST GOING ABOUT IT.

>> AND GREG TO CLARIFY THAT POINT IN PARTICULAR BECAUSE I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT

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WE TALKED ABOUT IT IN THE CITY SCHOOLS MEETING, BUT I THINK AS WE TALK AS A BOARD, WE NEED TO BE CLEARED THAT THERE IS AN OPTION WHICH I HAVE EXPRESSED IN THE CITY SCHOOLS MEETING AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN.

YOU KNOW, THERE IS AN OPTION THAT WHEN THE TIME COMES, YOU KNOW, IF IT IS 10 YEARS FROM NOW, THAT YOU KNOW, WE CAN HAVE A PLAN FOR HAVING THE SPACE AVAILABLE FOR SCHOOL FACILITIES WHEN AND IF WE NEED IT.

I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT IT IS CLEAR.

>> NO YES IS EVER FINAL AND NO NAYIS EVER FINAL.

>> I NEEDED THAT, THANK YOU.

OKAY SO, I WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE BOARD CONVENES TO DISCUSS THAT.

ASAP.

OKAY?

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DOCTOR RIEF, ARE YOU GIVE ME LOOK? [LAUGHTER] ALL RIGHT, MOVING RIGHT ALONG THE AGENDA OUT OF SCHOOL TIME.

AGAIN, WE WILL NOT GO THROUGH ANY PRESENTATIONS, THIS IS SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE DISCUSSED IN THE JOINT SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS.

SO, YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYONE THAT HAS PRESSING QUESTIONS TO GET THEM OUT THERE.

MR. CHAPMAN.

>> A QUICK STEP BACK NOT TO GO BACK INTO IT BUT QUICK STEP BACK.

DID WE GET WE WANTED IN THE FIRST LINE OF QUESTIONING? I DON'T KNOW IF WE ANSWERED MOST OF THOSE QUESTIONS.

OBVIOUSLY SOME OF THEM CANNOT BE BEATING DOWN THE DOOR.

WE CANNOT DO IT FOREVER BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK THE CONVERSATION BUT LAND IS NOT JUST ONE FIELD IT'S A SERIES OF FIELDS.

A SERIES OF SITES AS THE MAYOR TALKED ABOUT, THERE BEEN A NUMBER OF SITES THAT NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR FEATURE IS.

AND SO, I WOULD SUGGEST MAYBE BROADER CONVERSATION FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD TO NOT ONLY START WITH THIS BUT JUST TO TACKLE SOME LAND OPPORTUNITIES.

>> YES, BUT I THINK JUST, YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE ONE THAT FEELS IMMEDIATE, THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING.

>> THE IMMEDIACY IS REAL FOR ONE BUT STILL IMMEDIACY TO UNDERSTAND THE FUTURE OF MORE THAN ONE.

I WOULD SUGGEST YOU KNOW, TO THE MAYOR'S COMMENTS ABOUT HAVING THE SITES WITHIN THE SCOPE, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA OF LOOKING FOR NEW LAND OR WHATEVER, I THINK WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE HAVE AND TRY TO GIVE SOME FLEXIBLE FUTURE TO THAT.

>> AMIGO TO -- ARE WE HAVING THAT CONVERSATION OUTSIDE OF WHAT WE SAID WE WERE ALREADY GOING TO DO I GUESS, IN TERMS OF HAVING STAFF COME TO US WITH THE FULL PICTURE, BECAUSE AGAIN, I AM NOT SURE, I GUESS I'M CONFUSED NOW BECAUSE I WANT TO DISCUSS THINGS IN ISOLATION WHEN WE ARE SAYING THAT WE GOING TO HAVE THAT BROADER

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>> IS IT THE INTENT OF STAFF?

>> ON THE LONGER, ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR SHARED AND CO-LOCATION, WHAT DOES THAT FEATURE LOOK LIKE, I THINK THAT WAS BOTH PROGRAMMATIC, THE DATA AND AN ILLITERATE AND FOR SCHOOL.

THAT WAS ALL-ENCOMPASSING FOR THAT.

>> AND I THINK I'M ALSO TALKING ABOUT QUESTION NUMBER TWO, A TIMETABLE PROCESS FOR ADOPTING INTERIM PLANS FOR USE OF FEATURE AN EXISTING LAND.

YES, THAT INCLUDES SIMPSON BUT IT IS BROADER THAN THAT.

>> SAID THAT THERE WILL BE A PART OF THE EFFORT TRYING TO MAYBE DO THAT, HATE TO SAY BUT PART A.

AND AGAIN, STILL LEARNING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT ARE SOME OF THESE INTERIM NEEDS, I KNEW THAT SIMPSON WAS ONE OF THEM BUT THEY'RE PROBABLY OTHERS.

IF THERE ARE OTHERS THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AND WILL TRY TO PUSH THAT FORWARD A LITTLE BIT MORE QUICKLY IN THE OVERALL PROCESS.

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>> MADAM CHAIR?

>> YES.

>> I WANT TO TYPE SOMETHING TOGETHER WAS TO EARLIER BECAUSE IT GUESS WHAT COUNCILMEMBER CHAPMAN IS LOOKING AT.

I THINK WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT INVENTORY OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE THERE, THEIR COMING AND SAY, HERE IS OUR INTENTION SHORT TERM, MEDIUM TERM AND LONG TERM.

BECAUSE WILL POTENTIALLY SHAPE HOW WE MAKE DECISIONS ON OTHER THINGS.

NOT JUST THE BUDGET SIDE BUT OTHER THINGS.

I WILL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, POTOMAC YARD, WILL HAVE THE PROPERTY IN ABOUT TWO YEARS.

YOU GUYS WILL PROBABLY NOT BE IN A PLACE TO -- BUILDING SCHOOL BUILDING SO WE NEEDED SECOND USE.

WE DON'T WANT TO SAY WE HAVE TO PLAY WITH THE INTERIM USE WILL BE IN WITH THEIR FOUR YEARS OF PROPERTY SITTING THERE WITH WEEDS ON IT.

THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF, IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE ACTUALLY ASKED THE DEVELOPMENT TO FUND SOME OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.

THAT WILL REQUIRE US TO GET A SENSE OF KIND OF WHAT THE DIRECTION IS SO I THINK TO THE CHAIR! I THINK TO THE QUESTION EARLIER, AND WE'LL TALK LATER ABOUT THE WORK SESSION SCHEDULE.

BUT WE'LL PROBABLY COME BACK IN THE FALL.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK, THOSE KINDS OF PRODUCTS WE COULD HAVE IN THE FALL THAT WE COULD START TO TALK ABOUT.

>> I THINK WE CAN GET YOU SOME, IT MAY NOT BE POLISHED DOCUMENTS OR THINGS LIKE THAT BUT ABSOLUTELY, WE CAN GET INFORMATION THAT I THINK LOOKS AT ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND SAYS, HERE IS THE BEST CUT OF HOW WE MIGHT WANT TO APPROACH IT WITH SOME CONSIDERATIONS WHICH ARE REALLY THOSE PROS AND CONS FREE TO MAKE YOUR DECISION.

I THINK WE CAN DO THAT.

IT MIGHT BE LATER IN THE FALL, BUT AGAIN IT JUST TIE IN WITH, YOU WANT TO DO THIS BEFORE THE NEXT BUDGET.

WE ARE READY HAVE OUR CLOCK.

I THINK THAT'S CLEAR.

>> BECAUSE IS BEYOND JUST SIMPSON.

I AGREE, IT IS LOWER HAMMOND, A LOT OF PROPERTIES WE HAD TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE PLAN IS.

>> I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK -- >> GO AHEAD.

>> JUST UNDERSTAND THE IMMEDIACY -- AM SORRY WITH SIMPSON FIELD.

WE HAD A PRESENTATION AT THE LAST BUSINESS MEETING FOR MR. BROWER THAT WALK-THROUGH, THE LIGHTING PLAN FOR HAMMOND, PATRICK HENRY, GEORGE WASHINGTON AND SIMPSON SO THE IMMEDIACY IS NOT JUST SIMPSON BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THE PUBLIC PROCESS RIGHT NOW AS A COMBINED WHOLE WITH THE SITES THAT YOU ARE LOCATING.

>> I THINK AS PART OF THAT.

I THINK BASED ON WHAT I JUST HEARD, THERE'S MORE THAN JUST THOSE FIVE THEY'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS SORT OF, WHAT DO YOU DO WITH CAPACITY WHEN YOU PULL IT OFF OF ONE OF THE SCHOOLS? I THINK THERE ARE OTHER SPECIFICS RELATED TO THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT ON THE LIST.

THE WAY I'M ENVISIONING IT, WE WILL DO AN ANALYSIS OF WHAT WE THINK THAT COULD BE, BUT TRY TO QUICKLY TRY TO ASCERTAIN SOME OF THE NEEDS BASED ON SOME OF THE DATA AND PROJECTIONS FOR BOTH CITY AND FOR THE SCHOOLS.

AND THAT WILL GIVE YOU SOME SENSE OF WHAT THIS PROPERTY THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, HERE'S WHAT WE THINK MIGHT BE AVAILABLE, YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER AND IF SOMETHING IS LITTLE BIT LATER THAN THAT, WILL ACTUALLY PROPOSE SOMETHING THAT IS, WHAT IS A PERMANENT BUT HAS A CERTAIN LIFESPAN THAT MIGHT HELP US ON SOME OTHER THINGS.

I GUESS WHAT I'M ENVISIONING IS SOMETHING IS AS SIMPLE AS A MAP WITH SOME TABLES THAT SHOW LESS TALK ABOUT THIS PROPERTY.

THIS IS WHAT IT WILL BE DELIVERED TO THE CITY.

WE EXPECT IN THAT WINDOW, HERE ARE SOME OF THE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE SEEN BASED ON THE DATA, HERE ARE A COUPLE OF OPTIONS PROS AND CONS.

IT'S PROBABLY NOT A GREAT SCHOOL SITE BECAUSE THIS THIS AND THIS HOWEVER, IT MAY REALLY FIT SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE AS STAFF -- WITHIN THE EXERCISE WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL.

I KNOW IT WILL BE HELPFUL TO ME IN PROPOSING BUDGET OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE COUNCIL AND I THINK FOR THE SCHOOL IT WILL BE REALLY HELPFUL AS WELL, SO YOU KNOW COLLECTIVELY WHAT YOU ARE DEALING WITH.

IF THAT IS OKAY I MIGHT APPROACH THAT.

I WOULD SAY, IT WON'T BE SUPER POLISHED AND HEAVY DETAIL.

BECAUSE OF THE TIMEFRAME, BUT IT SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO MAKE SOME KEY DECISIONS, I THINK.

>> RIGHT BACK TO OUT OF SCHOOL TIME.

I'M OPENING THE FLOOR.

WHAT ARE YOUR BURNING QUESTIONS? MS. GASKIN.

>> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.

I JUST HAVE A QUESTION IN RELATION TO THE FIRST BULLET WHICH IS AROUND, HOW DO WE COORDINATE.

IN THE DON'T KNOW ALL THE DETAILS OF THE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WERE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS FOR RECOVERY DOLLARS OF STATE EDUCATION AGENCIES LOCAL EDUCATION AGENCY RELATED TO OUT OF SCHOOL TIME AND ALSO KNOW THE CITY IS PUTTING SOME INVESTMENTS THAT YOU HAVE THE PHILANTHROPIC GROUPS AS WELL.

IS THERE SOMETHING THAT SHOWS THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS FLOWING, WHAT SPECIFIC PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN FUNDED THROUGH IT AND MAYBE BEGIN TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT ARE THE GAPS, I THINK THERE IS A SPECIFIC DEFINED BUT THE GAPS ARE RIGHT NOW AND WHAT PIECES WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO LEVERAGE WITH THE FUNDS THAT ARE FLOWING IN.

>> MR. HOFFMAN HAS HIS CAMERA ON.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO CHIME IN ON THIS ISSUE AROUND THE FLOW OF MONEY AND IF THERE IS SOMEWHERE THAT I GUESS REALLY FOR THE CITY STAFF, TO BE ABLE TO SEE YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAVE RECEIVED AND EXPENDED MONEY ON.

>> RIGHT.

I DO SEE THAT WE PUT UP THE FINANCIAL TEAM, THEY'VE BEEN UP DOCUMENTS ABOUT WHERE THE FUNDING HAS GONE INTO AND SHE'S CORRECT WHEN SHE SAID THE SUPERCENTER THAT NEEDED TO GO TOWARDS LEARNING LOSS AND PROGRAMS SO FOR MY OFFICE AND ALONG WITH TEACHING, LEARNING AND LEADERSHIP, WE DID DESIGNATE SOME OF THAT FUNDING TO HELP NOT ONLY CURRENT PROGRAMS, BUT ALSO EXTENDED INTO ADDITIONAL SITES SO IN TERMS OF THE LATE -- I THINK EVERYONE IS WHERE WELL OF NOW, IT IS A PROGRAM THAT WE

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LOOK AT THE 21ST CENTURY GRANT WE HAVE THE FUNDING, AND EVERY YEAR, DEPENDING ON YOU KNOW IT'S ALWAYS KIND OF A FRAGILE SITUATION WHERE WE LOOK AT THE GRANTS COME IN THE CONTINUATION GRANTS COME IN AND THEY HAD TO REA YOUR PLAN B IF THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.

SO IT IS JUST A MULTIPLE KIND OF AREAS OF SUPPORT THROUGH MULTIPLE GRANTS THAT WE GOT FOR EXAMPLE, -- CLUB BURNING TO THE FUNDS.

I'M NOT SURE SPECIFICALLY THAT WE HAVE RELEASED, I HAVE TO REFER WERE KIND OF DIFFER TO THE DR. POTENTIALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF WE PUT OUT SPECIFIC AMOUNTS TO THE PUBLIC AVOID PUTTING, I CAN TELL YOU IN GENERAL WE ARE OUT OF SCHOOL TIME, WE PUT FUNDING INTO NOT ONLY STAFFING, WERE VERY LONG STAFFING AND HOW TO MANAGE THE PROGRAMS AS WE EXTEND THEM.

BUT ALSO PROFESSIONAL LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED WITH THOSE.

TEACHERS, LEADERSHIP, HOW YOU DO AFTER SCHOOL TIME AND IN A SUCCESSFUL WAY WITH BEST PRACTICES, BUT ALSO RESOURCES BECAUSE IT TAKES A LOT OF RESOURCES.

PARTNERS THAT WE ARE FUNDING THIS OPPORTUNITY, ENRICHMENT ACTIVITIES, IT'S KIND OF JUST A VERY FOCUSED DEDICATION OF FUNDING TO MAKE THIS WORK MOVING FORWARD.

I HOPE THAT HELPS, >> THAT IS HELPFUL AND I THINK THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING IS TO YOUR VERY POOR IMAGE OF THE DIFFERENT FUNDING STREAMS AND HOW THEY HAVE TO BE BRAIDED TOGETHER BUT ALSO SOME OF THEM MIGHT RUN OUT OR MIGHT NOT GET REVIEWED AND WE RETURNED TO THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE PROGRAMS REFUNDED WITH ARBOR FUNDS WHEN THAT IS OVER, WHAT HAPPENS? IF THERE WAS SOME WAY MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING OR THE STAFF WORK GROUP CAN LOOK AT THERE WERE SOME WAY TO BEGIN TO SEE THAT THIS IS WHERE WE ARE PUTTING IN DOLLARS, THIS IS HOW WE ARE FUNDING AND THIS IS I WOULD SAY THE CLIFF BUT THIS IS THE MOMENT IT MIGHT RUN OUT AND HOW DO YOU START TO PREPARE FOR WHAT RESOURCES WOULD BE NEEDED SHOULD WE NOT HAVE THE SAME GRANTS AVAILABLE AND SO FORTH.

>> OLIVIA THOUGHT PROCESS BECAUSE WE ARE DOING THE SAME THING.

WE'RE TRYING TO INTERNALLY LOOK AT WHAT IS THE SUSTAINABILITY LOOK LIKE PAST THE GRANT PROCESS? BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AT SOME POINT.

LET'S JUST SAY WILL HAPPEN.

WE KNOW OUR FUNDING WILL RUN OUT AFTER COUPLE OF YEARS AND RULE 21ST CENTURY GRANTS A KIND OF YEAR-BY-YEAR DEPENDING ON WHAT THE STATE IS GOING TO FUND.

AND SO, WE ARE ALREADY STARTING THE SUSTAINABILITY MEETINGS, THE OUT OF SCHOOL TIME TEAM, OUR OFFICE AND THE DIVISION AS A WHOLE IS SAYING OKAY, WHAT IS THE SUSTAINABILITY PLAN AFTER THIS? JESSE NO, I'M ON THE SAME PAGE WITH YOU.

>> ALL ADD TO THAT AND THEN I WILL LET OTHERS TALK BUT I THINK THAT IS A DISCUSSION THAT IS ONGOING WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE FUND WITH THESE FUNDS BECAUSE FOR EXAMPLE YOU KNOW, SPECIFIC STAFFING THE OTHER DIVISION THAT IS REALLY RELATED TO THE FUNDS WE HAVE TO HAVE THE SUSTAINABILITY CONVERSATIONS YOU KNOW AT THE STAFF LEVEL, SO THAT YOU KNOW, WE KNOW AND ALSO, THE PROCESS AND WHERE WE SET AS A BOARD, WE SET THE BUDGET PRIORITIES, WE COME TOGETHER AND WE SAID, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO SEE COME WE HAVE ALL EXERCISE RELATED TO THAT AND YOU KNOW, THAT RELATES TO STAFF HAVING TO SAY OKAY, IF THIS IS A PRIORITY, THIS IS A POSITION THAT EXISTS, IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE CONTINUE YOU KNOW, AND IF SO THEN WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT YOU KNOW, BUDGETING FOR IT.

SO YOU KNOW JUST SORT OF WHAT WAS SAID, YEAH.

>> ALSO, I DON'T WANT TO, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

THIS IS JUST ONE COMPONENT OF AFTERSCHOOL OUT OF SCHOOL TIME PROGRAM I DON'T WANT TO FORGET THAT WE HAVE INCREDIBLE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE PROVIDING OUT OF SCHOOL TIME PROGRAMMING OUTSIDE OF OURSELVES AND THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT THAT DOES INCREDIBLE JOB.

IT IS ALMOST LIKE TRYING TO FIND FOR FAMILIES, THE POINT OF ENTRY THAT WORKS FOR THEM.

IT COULD BE YMCA, IT COULD BE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, IT COULD BE A LOCAL CENTER THAT DOES CHILDCARE, ONE OF OUR ORGANIZATIONS THAT DOES EARLY CHILDCARE FOR EXAMPLE.

YOU KNOW, YOU GET THESE OTHER SITES JUST, WE WANT TO KEEP THAT IN MIND THAT WE ARE VERY LUCKY IN ALEXANDRIA, OUT OF THE SCHOOLS, YOU KNOW, SPONSORED PROGRAMS, OUTSIDE OF THIS WONDERFUL RECREATION DEPARTMENT WE HAVE THAT IS OFFERING THE POINT OF ENTRY, WE ALSO HAVE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT ALSO OFFER A PART OF ENTRY AND DOING IT FOR MULTIPLE CHILDREN, I MEAN DOCTOR -- AMAZING! ALL OF THAT TO SAY, I KNOW THIS MAY COME UP, LIST YOUTH SUPPORT NETWORK IS REALLY -- I THINK IS SOMEWHERE OUT HERE ON ZOOM LAND, SHE CAN TALK BETTER TO IT BUT IS REALLY LOOK AT THAT WHOLE ECOSYSTEM OF OUT OF SCHOOL TIME, DO WE KNOW ABOUT EACH OTHER? DO WE REALLY COME TOGETHER COLLABORATIVELY, TO UNDERSTAND, WHAT IS A PORT OF ENTRY, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THE PARENTS AND FAMILIES KNOW ABOUT THE POINT OF ENTRY? AND CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOME TYPE OF AFTERSCHOOL OR BEFORE SCHOOL CARE AS NEEDED.

AT THE HIGHEST QUALITY BY THE WAY.

>> YOU ON FIRE.

YOU BROUGHT UP THE YOUTH SUPPORT NETWORK, YOU ARE ALREADY ON IT! THANK YOU.

HOLD ON A SECOND BECAUSE I HAVE A FEW PEOPLE.

OKAY, YOU'RE ADDING ON? MS. JACKSON WILL ADD ON.

>> THANK YOU.

>> AFTER THAT DOCTOR -- >> GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, CAN YOU HEAR ME? I WANT TO JUST SUPPORT WHAT MR. HUFFMAN JUST INDICATED.

WE DO HAVE IN OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE TO HAVE A DATABASE THAT INCLUDES HOW WE'VE ALLOCATED ALL THE FUNDS IN TERMS OF OUR -- OF THE BODY HAS AN INTEREST IN, IF SOMETHING KNOW THAT MR. TURNER COULD PROVIDE.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, AS IS INDICATED WITH INTERESTING HERE IN ALEXANDRIA IS THAT WE HAVE, OUR SCHOOLS HAVE A NUMBER OF PARTNERS THAT PROVIDE A LOT OF SERVICES TO OUR STUDENTS, THAT IS SOMETHING ELSE MAYBE AS A COMPREHENSIVE REPORT THAT WE CAN CONSIDER TO PROVIDE, I WAS JUST THINKING FOR EXAMPLE, FOR MANY OF OUR STUDENTS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS, WE PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR OUT OF SCHOOL TIME FOR THEM, FOR SOME OF OUR PRE-K STUDENTS.

WE WILL TOOK ADVANTAGE OF BEING ABLE TO UTILIZE THESE FUNDS AND THERE'S A REAL COMMITMENT TO PROVIDING BEFORE AND AFTER SCHOOL ACTIVITIES.

JUST TO CONCUR WITH WHAT HE HAS INDICATED AND WE CAN BROTHER INFORMATION BY FEDERAL STANDARDS, WE ARE REQUIRED TO REPORT THAT INFORMATION.

SO WE CAN CERTAINLY MAKE THAT AVAILABLE.

>> THANK YOU.

I THINK IT IS SOMETHING EASILY ABLE -- >> YES.

>> WOULD LOOK AT THAT AND SAY YES YOU MAY BE ABLE TO DO EXTRA FUNDING EACH OF THESE AREAS.

HERE'S AN AREA YOU WANT TO FUND AND WERE UNABLE TO AND WILL HAD WANTED TO PROVIDE US OUT OF THE CITY OR OTHER PARTNERS DO THAT.

SO I DON'T WANT YOU TO DO A FULL REPURPOSE AN EASY DOWN OR SOMETHING I THINK THERE WILL BE GREAT.

>> PARTICULARLY FOR GAP ANALYSIS TO SEE IF SOMETHING IS MISSING.

>> YES, THANK YOU.

>> OKAY MS. JACKSON THEN MR. CHAPMAN THE MR. -- >> THANK YOU.

I JUST WANTED TO AND ONTO MR. HOFFMAN'S COMMENTS ALSO.

WHILE WE ARE THINKING ABOUT OUT OF SCHOOL TIME AND ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS, REALLY, WE ARE FOCUSING MORE ON THE PRE-K THROUGH FIFTH GRADE LEVEL, BUT ALSO WANTED TO BRING UP WHICH NO ONE IS MENTIONED AND, THE SPORTS PROGRAMS, WE HAVE A LOT OF SPORTS PROGRAMS AND I KNOW THAT WHERE I WAS AFTERSCHOOL IF I WAS A VISION I COULD DO BETWEEN THE RECREATION PROGRAMS, THE CLUBS YOU KNOW THE ALEXANDRIA LITTLE LEAGUE, LACROSSE, SOCCER, ALL OF THOSE ARE ALSO TAKING THE KIDS AND AFTER SCHOOL AND KEEPING THEM ENGAGED AS WELL AS OUR OWN PROGRAMS AT HOWARD AND THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND OF COURSE THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL OF SPORTS.

IF WE ARE LOOKING AT ALL OF THE MONEY BEEN FUNNELED INTO THE OUT OF SCHOOL TIME, I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO SEE THAT INCLUDED, JUST TO SEE WHERE WE CAN LEVERAGE SOME FUNDS IF IT COMES.

THANK YOU.

>> MR. CHAPMAN.

>> YOU, SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER -- AND I WOULD CHIT CHATTING ABOUT INTRAMURALS.

I THINK IT IS AN EVENT WE'VE SEEN A NUMBER OF DISTRICTS ARE ABLE TO PULL KIDS IN, JUST FOR THE SPORT.

AND SO, I THINK THAT IS THE OPPORTUNITY.

I WANTED TO GET BACK TO COUNCILMEMBER GASKINS, THOUGHT ABOUT KIND OF WHAT ELSE CAN WE CLOSE THE GAP AND I REMEMBER SOME YEARS AGO I THINK THERE WAS KIND OF A COMMUNITY DISCUSSION ABOUT CREATION OF A FOUNDATION AND KIND OF WHAT THAT COULD DO FOR THE SYSTEM KNOW THAT WE HAVE SEEN IN FAIRFAX THEY CONTINUE TO HAVE THEIR FOUNDATION OBVIOUSLY WE ARE BUILT DIFFERENT AND WE HAVE DIFFERENT THINGS AND HAVE DIFFERENT PRIORITIES.

I ALSO SEE THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY, KNOWING THAT IN FAIRFAX MANILA COME TO THE FOUNDATION IS SPREAD TO A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PRIORITIES AND IT IS JUST FOCUSED ON ONE AREA.

PEOPLE THAT CARE ABOUT PRE-K CAN GIVE MONEY THAT GOES TO THE FOUNDATION THROUGH THOSE OPPORTUNITIES, FOLKS THAT CARE ABOUT THE SPORTS, MAYBE THEIR ATHLETES HAVE COME TO THE SYSTEM THAT CAN BE GIVEN BACK INTO INTRAMURAL PROGRAMS OR ATHLETIC PROGRAMS AND FOUNDATION.

THAT IS AN AVENUE TO SPREAD THE MONEY TO DIFFERENT PLACES AS WE LOOK TO COME OUT OF COVID AND WITH HOPEFULLY NEW THREADS OF FUNDING, KNOWING THAT CERTAIN FUNDING IS DRYING UP, I THINK IT BEHOOVES US TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE NEED OF SOMETHING OF THAT AGAIN AND THE VALUE IT MAY PROVIDE WERE WHAT SOME OF THE PROS AND CONS ARE WITH THAT AS WELL.

I THINK IT IS A DISCUSSION THAT CAN HOPEFULLY BE PICKED UP OFF OF THE MAT AND KIND

OF RINSED OUT AND -- >> THANK YOU MR. HUFFMAN MAY HAVE TOUCHED ON THIS BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND BASICALLY, FROM HISTORIC PERSPECTIVE, AND LOOKING THROUGH THE REPORT, THE OUT OF SCHOOL REPORT, IT SEEMS THAT FROM THE SURVEY, THE BIGGEST TWO OBSTACLES HAVE BEEN FAMILIES KNOWING ABOUT THE PROGRAMS AND IT HAS BEEN COST PROHIBITIVE.

I WONDER IF THAT IS THE SAME FROM ACPS PERSPECTIVE WHAT HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN CHALLENGES TO OUT OF SCHOOL PROGRAMS BECAUSE ALSO LOOKING AT THE FUNDING FOR IT SEEMS LIKE THERE IS VERY SMALL FEDERAL FUNDING FOR IT.

SO HAS BEEN FUNDING OR HAS IT REALLY BEEN LIKE THE PROVIDERS, WHAT IS BEEN THE ACPS PERSPECTIVE, THE CHALLENGE IS TO REALLY HAVE THE AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM THAT SERVES VERY BROAD RANGE OF STUDENTS?

>> I THINK YOU HIT ON IT.

I THINK YES, FROM A ACPS SIDE OF THINGS, WE KNOW THAT COST IS PROHIBITIVE FOR MANY FAMILIES FOR OUT OF SCHOOL PROGRAMS. WE ARE LUCKY THAT A LOT OF OUR PARTNERS INCLUDING THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND ALSO, -- CENTER FOR EXAMPLE AND EVEN OTHER PARTNERS LIKE ALEXANDER ASSOCIATION THEY DO OFFER SCHOLARSHIPS AT REDUCED RATES BASED ON FREE AND REDUCED LUNCH RATES

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WE KNOW THAT IT WOULD JUST CUT THE BARRIER RIGHT OUT.

FOR SELECTIVE FAMILIES, SELECTED STUDENTS.

WE ALSO KNEW AS YOU SAID, THAT FAMILIES JUST KNOWING THE OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE, IS GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT SO LUCKILY, MY OFFICE ALSO DOES ALL THE OUTREACH.

SO WE DID A GREAT JOB IN UNDERSTANDING THEM DIFFERENT LANGUAGES, DIFFERENT WAYS, MULTIPLE VIDEOS AND EVERYTHING, HOW TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT THAT THIS IS AVAILABLE? WE MET WITH THE PRINCIPALS, SCHOOL STAFF, SOCIAL WORKERS, EVERYTHING SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT FAMILIES ARE AWARE THAT THEY CAN SIGN UP FOR A CLUB IF THEY MEET THE CRITERIA.

ANOTHER RECREATION CENTERS ALSO DO THE SAME TYPE OF PRESELECTED APPLICATION FOR FAMILIES THAT ARE IN NEED.

THEY GET THEIR OUTREACH IN FOUR LINKAGES IN A BEEN HELPING THEM THROUGH OUR OFFICE, GET THAT INFORMATION OUT SO THOSE TWO BARRIERS, THE ONE BARRIERS COST.

THE OTHER ONE AS YOU MENTIONED, IS TRANSPORTATION, AS ALWAYS, FOR VARIOUS REASONS, COST AND CAPACITY ISSUE.

LUCKILY, THROUGH THE 21ST CENTURY GRANTS, WE BEEN ABLE TO PAY FOR SOME TRANSPORTATION FOR CHILDREN TO GET HOME FROM CLUBS AND THAT'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL.

WE ALSO DESIGN THEM SO THAT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOLS OR AT A COMMUNITY CENTER, OR AT -- A APARTMENT COMPLEX.

WE HAVE THEM IN THERE SO THEY JUST GO UPSTAIRS TO THEIR APARTMENT.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT WAYS TO GET AROUND BARRIERS THAT WE KNOW ARE PART OF THE SYSTEM FOR THESE FAMILIES.

WE HAVE NOT GONE ALL THE ANSWERS BUT I THINK WE ARE ON OUR WAY IN DOING THAT.

THAT IS IMPORTANT.

>> THANK YOU.

AS A MOTHER WITH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KIDS I DEFINITELY NEED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUT OF SCHOOL TIME FOR KIDS BECAUSE I ALSO WORK FULL TIME ON TOP OF THIS AWESOME JOB I HAVE HERE ON THE SCHOOL BOARD.

BUT THE QUESTION I HAVE IS, DO WE TRACK, ESPECIALLY FOR THE POWER OF RECREATION OUT OF SCHOOL TIME, DO WE TRACK FOLKS THAT CANNOT GET IT, GET INTO THOSE PROGRAMS OR GET ON THE WAITLIST? BECAUSE I WILL TELL YOU, I KNOW THE LAST YEAR WE HAD A LOT OF CAPACITY ISSUES BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO LIMIT ACCESS TO THE SCHOOLS BECAUSE OF COVID.

I CAN REMEMBER THE TEXT CHAIN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF EVERYBODY SAYING, GET ONLINE RIGHT NOW AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU FILL OUT THE FORM AND GET IT AND IT WAS LIKE HEART PALPITATIONS OR HAD YOU TURN ON PLUG INTO MY PHONE DOUBTFULLY GET MY KIDS INTO THE RECREATION PROGRAM BECAUSE AT LEAST AT DOUGLAS MACARTHUR WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS AT OUR SCHOOLS.

THAT IS A NICE THINK YOU NEED TO DO POWER UP OR DO COMPANIA AND THEY ARE PAYING FOR THIS EVERY MONTH IT'S PRICEY ESPECIALLY TO KIDS BUT ALSO AT LEAST FOR MOUNT VERNON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, BEFORE COVID, THE RECREATION PROGRAM WITH PHILIP THE DAY OF, IMMEDIATELY SHOWS LOOKING AT HOW ARE WE FEELING THE NEED AND THE WAITLIST FOR THE STUDENTS, THEN, HOW ARE WE EQUITABLY DISTRIBUTING THESE RECREATION PROGRAMS OF THE CITY? SO BROOKS FOR EXAMPLE FEEDS INTO MOUNT VERNON PARK PROGRAM, PARKS AND REP PROGRAM BECAUSE IT THE OPTION.

WE ONLY HAVE COMPANIA AT THE SCHOOL SO ADDS TO HAVING NOT PROGRAM FOR PARENTS WHO WANT TO HAVE OPTIONS TO THAT.

AND REALLY GRID THAT THEY MADE ADJUSTMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO GET FAMILIES HAVE MOST FINANCIAL NEED INTO THE PROGRAM IS ALSO A FANTASTIC PROGRAM.

LOOKING AT, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE WE HAVE MORE OF THE PROGRAMS AND AVAILABILITY TO FIT THE NEEDS OF THE CITY.

>> MS. GASKINS.

>> THANK YOU.

I WANT TO TOUCH ON SOMETHING THAT WAS SAID AND THAT MR. HUFFMAN ALSO TALKED ABOUT.

IT'S KIND OF JUST CONVICTED FELONS AT MULTIPLE KIDS.

AND NEVER GETTING THE WAITLIST THAT HAVE COME UP, TRANSPORTATION, COST, IT IS ON MY MIND! I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF YEARS UNTIL BOTH ARE THERE.

THIS MAY BE A SELF INTEREST QUESTION.

BUT JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT YOU KNOW, AS WE EXPLORE THESE, MAYBE TWO THINGS.

ONE KIND OF WHAT IS A SERVICE OR NAVIGATION THAT IS NOT JUST PUTTING OUT THE PROGRAMS AVAILABLE BUT ACTUALLY WALKING THROUGH FAMILIES, HOW THEY CAN CAN STRUCTURE AND COURTNEY.

I CAN IMAGINE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GO THROUGH WITH A VERY SPECIFIC DEADLINE.

BUT ALSO THINKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS, DIFFERENT PLACES AND CERTAIN OPTIONS THAT SOME DO NOT.

IS THERE WOULD HAVE A STANDARD OFFERING THAT EVERYONE KNOWS THEY CAN GET INTO? CAN THEY CAN STILL EXPLORE OTHER OPTIONS DEPENDING ON IS RIGHT FOR THE KID BUT THERE'S ALSO A FALLBACK OPTION THAT NO MATTER WHAT.

AN UNEXPECTED ANSWER NOW BUT I WOULD LOVE TO FIGURE HOW WE MAKE THIS AS EASY AS POSSIBLE FOR FAMILIES TO PLAN FOR THE CHILD AND WHAT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE DIFFERENT NEEDS OF EACH OF THEIR CHILDREN.

>> I WILL GO TO MS. BAGLEY -- ] WERE YOU PLANNING ON RESPONDING? NO.

[LAUGHTER] I DIDN'T THINK HE WAS.

ALL RIGHT.

>> I AGREE WITH WHAT SHE SAID.

[LAUGHTER] I DON'T THINK THIS IS JUST EXCLUSIVE TO ALEXANDRIA.

I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY A NATIONWIDE PROBLEM, HOW DO YOU GET ENOUGH SLOTS AND ENOUGH PLACES AND ENOUGH SO EVERY FAMILY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT THE CHILD IF THEY NEED TO, AND AFTERCARE OR OUT OF SCHOOL TIME PROGRAMMING.

IT IS WORKING THROUGH THE SYSTEM AND AGAIN, I THINK ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS I KNOW THAT OTHERS ARE WORKING THROUGH IS, HOW TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS INFORMED OF ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES? I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF FAMILIES THAT MAY NOT KNOW ABOUT LOCAL MOTION DOING DANCE OF THE SCHOOL AND YOU KNOW YOU HAVE DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE ARE ALL AWARE OF AND JUST BECAUSE YOU PUT IT ON A WEBPAGE DOESN'T MEAN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO KNOW ABOUT IT.

WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE MULTIPLE WAYS TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT.

AND I KNOW MARGARET, I KNOW WE ALL TALKED ABOUT THIS.

IT IS IMPORTANT THAT EVERYONE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST LEARN ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITIES.

>> YES AND I WILL MOVE ON TO EVERYBODY, BUT I THINK YOU KNOW, LET'S CAPITALIZE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE USED FOR NETWORK WHO IS GATHERING TO DO THIS WORK AND GIVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

I THINK IT IS AMAZING, I THINK WE ARE SO LUCKY TO HAVE THEM DOING THAT AND SO, AS WE THINK ABOUT WHAT THE GAPS ARE AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE FUNDED, LET'S RELY ON WHAT THEY TELL US, WHAT COMES OUT OF THEIR WORK.

TO MAKE OUR DECISIONS.

I MEAN BECAUSE THOSE ARE, THOSE WOULD BE INFORMED DECISIONS, NOT JUST GUESSES.

SO, MS. BAGLEY?

>> THANK YOU.

MR. HUFFMAN STOLE SEVERAL OF MY THOUGHTS SO I AGREE.

WHERE WAS GOING TO COME FROM IS TO SAY THAT THE IDEA OF CRASHING A WEBSITE AT PACIFIC TIME, JUST DOES NOT FEEL EQUITABLE.

NOT EVERYBODY CAN BE HOME, HAVE THREE DEVICES ONLINE, AND EVERYBODY SPEAKS THE LANGUAGE ON WHICH THE WEBSITE COMES UP AND THE FORMS AVAILABLE.

AND AS HEAR THE STORIES, CANNOT HELP BUT THINK THIS IS NOT AN EQUAL PROCESS.

IF IT'S A SINGLE PARENT HOUSEHOLD AND MOM IS AT WORK WHEN THE WEBSITE COMES ONLINE.

IT IS NOT SIMPLY ABOUT CREATING THE PROGRAMMING IS ABOUT CREATING EQUAL ACCESS TO THE PROGRAMMING AND DOING SOMETHING A BIT INSPIRED BY AND A LOT OF GOOD OUTCOMES FROM THE PANDEMIC IS BREAKING DOWN SOME OF THE SILOING OF YOU KNOW, FOOD SECURITY IS ONE ISSUE AND LACK OF HEALTHCARE AND VACCINE ACCESS IS ANOTHER.

IN MAKING THE SYSTEMS TALK TO EACH OTHER.

SO YOU KNOW, THE ALIVE FOOD HUB COULD HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT OUT OF SCHOOL TIME PROGRAMMING, SOMEBODY WHO HAS FOOD SECURITY AND HAS A FAMILY PROBABLY ALSO NEEDS HELP ACCESSING OUT OF SCHOOL TIME PROGRAMMING.

NEIGHBORHOOD HEALTH, ALL THESE OTHER GROUPS ARE REALLY STEPPED UP YOU KNOW, AFRICAN COMMUNITIES TOGETHER, JUST THINKING A LITTLE BEYOND ACPS AND ITS ACCESS TO FAMILIES, THINKING ABOUT OTHER VENUES, OR OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WHO HAVE ACCESS TO FAMILIES, JUST TO AMPLIFY INFORMATION AND OPPORTUNITY.

AND MAYBE EVEN PROVIDING THROUGH THOSE OTHER ACCESS POINTS, REGISTRATION OPPORTUNITIES.

BECAUSE MY DAY JOB IS IN HOUSING COMMENTS ON THE COUNTRY AND I CAN TELL YOU SO OFTEN THAT CHILDREN THE COMMUNITIES ARE NOT IN THES PROGRAMS EVEN WHEN THEY ARE, BECAUSE THE CUT PARENTS SIMPLY MISSED THE DEADLINE OR WERE READY TO CRASH THE SYSTEM.

SO I APPLAUD THE YOUTH NETWORK AND THIS IDEA REACHING ACROSS DIFFERENT SOURCES.

BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO DO IT, NOT JUST INCLUDING THE PROGRAMS TO MAKE IT SHOW EQUALLY INVITING EVERYBODY TO THEM.

>> ARE JUST SO YOU KNOW THE FOLKS WHO ARE ONLINE, I SEE YOU, I WILL GET TO YOU.

I HAD THE MAYOR AND THE MR. CHAPMAN.

NO, DID I NOT GET YOU YET? ALL RIGHT, HOLD ON.

WE WILL DO THE MAYOR COMMENTS TO CHAPMAN, MS. JACKSON.

YOU GUYS WORK IT OUT.

>> GO FOR IT!

>> THANK YOU.

I DID WANT TO BRING UP ONE OF THE THING CONCERNING LINK CLUB, WHEN I WAS AT THE CITY SCHOOL SUBCOMMITTEE, THIS WAS PRESENTED TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE, ALL I COULD THINK OF WAS, RECREATION IS GREAT ANOTHER MY KIDS WANT TO BE IN RECREATION THERE AND COMPANIA THIS IS WHY, THIS IS WHY PUT THE MINUTE FROM THE START.

IT OFFERS THIS HOUR TO SIT DOWN TUTORIAL, DO HOMEWORK AND THEN YOU GET TO PLAY.

RECREATION DOES NOT SEEM TO DO THAT.

WHEN YOU OFFERING LINK CLUB IN THIS, WHICH IS COMPANIA LIKE IT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID, THIS WILL ACTUALLY PROMOTE MORE OF THE SITTING DOWN, LEARNING, DO YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE YOU ARE PLAYING.

IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? THAT LINK CLUB IS PRETTY MUCH ON PAR WITH HOW COMPANIA IS STRUCTURED? WITH THAT? IS THAT CORRECT MR. HUFFMAN, SORRY?

>> PRETTY CLOSE YOU'RE RIGHT.

THERE'S AN ACADEMIC COMPONENT TO IT AFTER SCHOOL.

THEY HAVE ACPS TEACHER A LOT OF TIMES OR RECREATION DEPARTMENT STAFF THAT THEY REALLY DO ACADEMIC WORK.

THEN THEY DO WHAT IS CALLED THE ENRICHMENT HOURS.

WHICH COULD BE ANYTHING FROM DANCE TO PLAY, YOU KNOW YOU HAVE THAT OKAY IT'S TIME TO GET SOME ENERGY OUT.

YOU KNOW DIFFERENT ENRICHMENT ACTIVITIES DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY LIKE.

THE GREAT THING IS YOU'VE ALSO KIND OF THROWN INTO THINK GOODNESS, SOME SOCIAL EMOTIONAL SUPPORT THE DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES AND CURRICULUM IN ALIGNMENT WITH THAT AREA WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT AS WE KNOW.

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IT GOES BACK TO THAT APPROACH.

WHICH WE THINK IS SO IMPORTANT.

OURS WANTED TO SAY, WE ARE VERY LUCKY I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO JUST TALK BUT ANYWAY, WE ARE VERY LUCKY IN ALEXANDRIA, HAVE THIS KIND OF COLLECTIVE COLLABORATIVE.

I'VE NEVER BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE I TALKED TO MARGARET SO OFTEN YOU KNOW WE TALK ALL THE TIME.

I TALKED TO ALEXANDRIA ALL THE TIME, TALK TO CITY STAFF ALL THE TIME.

MS. JACKSON, WE TALK ALL THE TIME.

I THINK THERE IS HIS DEDICATION, NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE IN THE POINT OF REALLY SERVING THE STUDENTS AND THIS IS REALLY HAPPENING THROUGH, AND I THINK SOMEONE SAID, COVID KINDA BROUGHT US TOGETHER, BECAUSE WE KNEW WE WOULD HAVE TO HOLD HIS TOGETHER.

AND IT'S NEVER STOPPED AND IT'S BEEN WONDERFUL TO SEE ALL THESE ORGANIZATIONS LARGE AND SMALL COME TOGETHER TO TRY AND FIGURE THIS OUT.

IT'S BEEN WONDERFUL.

>> THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING.

>> MR. CHAPMAN.

>> THANK YOU THINK -- YOU DO A GOOD DEED.

JOHN CAN GO FIRST!

>> AT THE JUMP ON THAT, JUST BECAUSE I KNEW.

I WOULD SAY THE THING I LOOK AT AS A SOLUTION A POSSIBLE SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM, LOOKING AT CAPACITY AT THESE THINGS IS NOT NECESSARILY STAFF IS NOT CALMING OF THEIR STILL I THINK CONNECTIONS THAT CAN BE MADE, I HAVE LOVED WHAT STAFF HAS DONE PARTICULARLY IN THE LAST TWO YEARS JUST COMING TOGETHER AND BREAKING SILOS OF WORKING TOGETHER AND COMMUNICATING WITH MR. APPENZELL BUT I THINK THE ISSUE IS CAPACITY, SPACE AND STAFFING REALLY.

YOU KNOW, AS WE LOOK AT THAT I THINK COUNSEL HAS TALKED ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE WITH CAPACITY AND HAVING PEOPLE JUMP ON AND KNOWING THEN 30 SECONDS THE STUFF IS OUT.

BECAUSE WE HAVE A CAPACITY ISSUE WHETHER THE SPACE AND FINDING THE APPROPRIATE SPACE, THINK MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEAN HEAVILY ON OUR PARTNERS THAT HAVE BEEN TO COVID WITH US AND SOME FOLKS MAY BE HAVE NOT BROUGHT TO THE TABLE FAITH-BASED FOLKS, BECAUSEIT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE DURING CERTAIN TIMES, LOOK AT SOME OF THE NONPROFIT PARTNERS LIKE THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB WHO HAVE THE TYPE OF AFTERSCHOOL SPACE THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR KIDS HAVE IN MAKING SURE THEIR PROGRAMS ARE AT THE BRIM KIND OF AT THE FULL -- I THINK THAT'S HOW WE START TO DEAL WITH THE PROBLEM WE ARE SEEING IN VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEN WE CAN REACT TO NEIGHBORHOOD BY NEIGHBORHOOD, HOW TO REALLY HONE IN ON THE SPECIFIC ISSUE BUT I THINK OVERALL, WE JUST HAVE CAPACITY ISSUES I THINK WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE ADDRESS.

WHETHER IT IS TRAINING STAFF TO HELP AND AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMS A CERTAIN TIMES VERSUS OTHER STUFF DURING THE DAY.

WHETHER IT IS TRULY JUST FUNDING AND BEING ABLE TO ATTRACT MORE AFTERSCHOOL STAFF SO THAT OF COURSE THE COMMUNICATION AND OUTREACH IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE SOMETHING WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO EVOLVE IN INITIALLY REACHING OUT BUT WITH THE SPECIFIC PROBLEMS THAT WE SEEM TO BE TALKING ABOUT, THERE SEEMS TO BE STRICTLY ABOUT CAPACITY AND NOT HAVING ENOUGH SLOTS, HAVING, I THINK THAT IS WHY WE GIVE TO STAFF AND SAY IT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT ARE THE TOOLS OR OPTIONS AND SOME POLICY DECISIONS WE NEED TO ADJUST, I REMEMBER AND THE AMERICAN CORRECT ME FOR MOBILE TO THINK A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE LOOKED AT ACCREDITATION AND WHAT WE HAD TO DO THERE AND WHETHER THAT WAS HELPING US OR HURTING US WITH CAPACITY IN CERTAIN AREAS AND WHAT THAT CONDITION MEANT, WHAT DID IT MEAN GLOBALLY, WAS IT THE PROGRAM IS NOT AS GOOD, THE PROGRAMS ON THE SAFE? I THINK THERE WAS SOME DETERMINATIONS AROUND THAT THAT ALLOWED US TO DO SOME EXPANSION.

AND SO POLICY ISSUES AS WELL THAT THEY CAN LOOK AT BUT I THINK THAT'S YOU KNOW, I WOULD THINK STAFF OWNS AND ON AS IT RELATES TO OUR CHALLENGES OUT OF SCHOOL TIME IN SOME AREAS.

>> I'M GONNA GO TO THE MAYOR.

I HAVE TWO PEOPLE ONLINE THAT A BEEN WAITING.

>> OKAY.

>> LET ME KIND OF TRY TO GROW A SKUNK ON THE TABLE.

I THINK PART OF THE REASON THAT I WANTED TO THROW MONEY AT THE SUPPORT NETWORK, IS, I WANTED THIS EFFORT TO CHALLENGE A LOT OF THE ASSUMPTIONS WE HAVE.

WE DO OR THINK TO THE POINT HAVE A LOT OF GREAT FOLKS DOING REALLY GREAT THINGS HERE.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE SOME CHALLENGES, WITH CAPACITY CHALLENGES, WE HAVE I BELIEVE, A DIZZYING AMOUNT OF COMPLEXITY.

I REMEMBER SEVERAL YEARS AGO THEY TRIED TO TEMPER THE NUMBER BUT WILL TALK ABOUT IT NUMBER OF PLACES THAT ACPS TRANSPORTS KIDS AFTER SCHOOL.

AND IT WAS LIKE 85 OR SOME RIDICULOUS NUMBER LIKE THAT.

AND THAT IS ABSURD FOR CITY THE SIZE BUT I THINK IT IS A TESTAMENT TO HOW COMPLEX THE SYSTEM IS, AND GASKINS WAS TOUCHING ON THIS A COUPLE OF MINUTES AGO.

A LOT OF THAT IS BECAUSE ALL THE PROGRAMS GOT SET UP AROUND THE MONEY.

IT IS SET UP, SOME MONEY BECAME AVAILABLE FOR US TO INTO A PARTICULAR ENTITY AND WE STARTED PROVIDING A PROGRAM AND IT GETS SUSTAINED YEAR AND YEAR AND YEAR AND THEY ARE GREAT PROGRAMS, PROBABLY PROVIDING A GREAT SERVICE BUT I THINK WHAT I'M HOPING WILL DO THE EFFORT TO STEP BACK, LOOK AT HOW WE PROVIDE A SYSTEM, TAKE A SYSTEMS APPROACH THAT WE PROVIDE THE SERVICES, AND MATCHED THE NEED, CAPACITY THAT WE HAVE AND FINANCIAL RESOURCES TO ACHIEVE THE BEST RESULT.

AND THAT'S REALLY TRICKY AND IT WILL PROBABLY PASTE PEOPLE OFF.

BUT THINK OF HER DOING HER JOB BUT WE ARE PROBABLY UPSETTING SOME OF THOSE WHILE WE FIGURE OUT HOW WE MATCH THE INVESTMENT WE ARE MAKING FROM A PUBLIC PERSPECTIVE, TO THE FAMILIES THAT ARE IN NEED AND ENSURING THAT WE GET THE BEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK.

I THINK AGAIN WE WON'T DECIDE ANY OF THAT NOW BUT AS WE GO FORWARD, THAT'S WHAT I'M HOPING WE WILL SEE, IS LOOKING AT PUBLIC PROVIDERS, PRIVATE PROVIDERS, NONPROFITS AND HOW WE PROVIDE A SYSTEM THAT IS SIMPLER FIRST OF ALL AND ACHIEVES BETTER RESULTS AND I THINK THAT IS SQUEEZING A LOT OF COMPLEXITY OUT OF IT.

I THINK IT'S NECESSARILY PART OF THE PROCESS.

>> MR. ORLANDO, I KNOW YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP, JUST WANTED TO SEE IF YOU WANTED TO CHIME IN.

>> I WILL PIGGYBACK ON WHAT THE MAYOR SAID.

THAT HAS BEEN KIND OF THE FOCUS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

WE'VE GONE TO A PREREGISTRATION PROCESS TO HAVE FILMS WITH THE MOST FINANCIAL NEED, HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REGISTER FOR PROGRAMS BEFORE WE HAVE OPEN REGISTRATION AND THAT HAS BEEN OUR PARTNERSHIPS WITH ACPS AND THE 21ST CENTURY, BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE, DAILY SERVICE TO KIDS WHO ARE IN MOST NEED OF AFTERSCHOOL SERVICES.

HAS BEEN THE FOCUS, NOT ONLY THAT, IT'S BEEN TIED TO ACADEMICS SO THAT IT IS NOT JUST ECONOMIC, IT'S ALSO, FOR MORE ACADEMIC SUPPORT, SO WE BEEN DOING THAT, SOME OF OUR STAFF ARE TRAINED TO DO STEM PROGRAMS AS PART OF THIS AND SOMETIMES WE CAN EXTEND THAT EVEN BEYOND BECAUSE IN OUR LOCATIONS, WE HAVE KIDS DOING LINK CLUB BUT ALSO GENERAL RECREATION AS WELL.

IT IS GIVEN SCHOOLS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY FOCUS AND GET KIDS SIGNED UP WHO REALLY NEED THAT SERVICE.

THAT IS WHAT WE BEEN DOING.

IT DOES NOT OF COURSE, HELP CERTAIN LOCATIONS WHERE WE ARE ALWAYS FILLING UP, WE ALREADY HAVE A NUMBER OF KIDS IT WILL BE PRESELECTED.

WE STILL HAVE THOSE PRESSURE POINTS AND SOME OF IT IS LIKE KURT MENTIONED, SOME AS TRANSPORTATION, SOME OF IT IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME PROGRAMS EVERY SCHOOL, WE HAVE A PROGRAM IN EVERY SCHOOL, BUT FOR INSTANCE, RECREATION IS NOT AT EVERY SINGLE SCHOOL.

SO PEOPLE WANT TO GO, SOMEONE POINTED OUT BROOKS WILL GO TO MOUNT VERNON AND THAT JUST AS ANOTHER LAYER OF PRESSURE TO THAT LOCATION THAT ALWAYS FILLS UP SO, WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS THOSE THINGS, CERTAINLY NOT ALL WORKED UP BUT WE ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS THE EQUITY ISSUE AS WELL AS WE CAN.

THE LINK PROGRAM AND WHAT WE WILL COMMENT EXTENDED PROGRAM WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS FALL, WITH SOME OF THE FUNDS, THEY BOT KIND OF PILOTS SO 21ST CENTURY IS VERY STRUCTURED BECAUSE OF THE FEDERAL MONEY, -- IS NOT SO MUCH SO SO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY ON HOW WE CAN PUT THE RICHMOND AND ACADEMIC INTO THOSE PROGRAMS, THE NEW ONE THAT WILL START.

WE ARE ALSO ABLE TO START A PROGRAM AT GW.

WE HAVE ONE FOR HAMMOND 400 KIDS WILL DO ONE NOTE GW WITH 100 KIDS.

AT LEAST MARCH 20, 2026.

AND THEN LIKE WE SAID, WE HAD TO START LOOKING AT SUSTAINABILITY.

>> DOCTOR SIMPSON BAIRD.

>> THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING.

I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT MR. HOFFMAN WAS SAYING BEFORE ABOUT ENSURING THAT FAMILIES HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT PROGRAMS OUT THERE IN TERMS OF OUT OF SCHOOL TIME.

I THINK ONE POTENTIAL SOLUTION FOR THAT WOULD BE ESSENTIAL REGISTRATION SYSTEM PARTICULARLY ONE THAT IS LIKE A POWER SCHOOL BECAUSE LAST WEEK I WAS SIGNING MY SIGNS UP FOR SLEP FOR THE FALL AND HAVING TO PUT IN MY SAME INFORMATION OVER AND OVER AGAIN FOR TWO KIDS WAS INCREDIBLY TIME-CONSUMING.

SO IF THERE WAS AWAY TO HAVE A SYSTEM WE COULD JUST GO TO ONE WEBSITE AND SEE ALL OF YOU OUT OF SCHOOL TIME OPTIONS AND IS ALREADY CONNECTED TO STUDENT RECORDS, I THINK IT WOULD SAVE TIME AND IT WILL PROBABLY GET SOME OF THOSE UNDER SUBSCRIBED PROGRAMS MORE FULLY ENROLLED.

AND THEN CONNECTING WITH WHAT MR. MAYER WAS SAYING AROUND SO THE RECOVERY HAS REPROACHED OUT OF SCHOOL TIME, I THINK THERE'S A REAL OPPORTUNITY HERE AND THIS CONNECTS WITH THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM BUT I THINK THERE'S A REAL OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE DEEPLY THING MATTERS SCHOOL TOMMY PROGRAMS FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS AND I KNOW YOU SUPPORT THE NETWORK AND SOME THINGS MR. ORLANDO JUST MENTIONED IS REALLY FOCUSING ON THE MIDDLE SCHOOL LEVEL BUT I THINK THERE STILL GROUP OF STUDENTS POTENTIAL THAT WE ARE MISSING.

IN REVIEWING THE DATA AND OUT OF SCHOOL TIME REPORT, I SEE THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE LISTED THERE FOR HIGH SCHOOL AGE STUDENTS SEEM TO BE UNDER SUBSCRIBED BY THE APPEARANCE OF HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS IN THE MAJORITY OF THE KIDS ARE ENROLLED IN PROGRAM SO THERE IS SOME DISCONNECT WHEN NOT COUNTING SPECIFIC PROGRAMS MAY BE IT IS THE RECREATIONAL AND SPORTS PROGRAMS LIKE MS. JACKSON WAS MENTIONING BUT I DON'T THINK WE'VE BEEN VERY CLEAR IN UNDERSTANDING WHAT PROGRAMS HIGH SCHOOL AGE STUDENTS ARE ACCESSING AND WHAT THE NEED THERE IS.

JUST MY THOUGHTS ON THOSE THINGS.

>> OKAY.

NOW I AM BACK IN THE ROOM.

>> I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF, FOLLOWING UP ON WHAT MR. CHAPMAN WAS TALKING ABOUT.

CAN WE GET THE CURRENT AND RECENT ENROLLMENT NUMBERS? BECAUSE LOOKS AT THE REPORT, NUMBERS IN THE REPORT ARE LIKE SEVEN YEARS OLD.

I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW IF THERE IS OPPORTUNITY TO GET THE CURRENT AND RECENT NUMBERS, MAYBE EVEN THE TRENDS.

SO WE HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF HOW THINGS LOOK AS WE STAND RIGHT NOW.

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>> WE CAN CERTAINLY GET YOU ENROLLMENT NUMBERS.

WE CAN GET YOU WHAT THE CURRENT ENROLLMENT NUMBER WAS LAST YEAR AND WHAT WE ARE ANTICIPATING BEING ABLE TO SERVE THROUGH THE LINK NEXT YEAR.

>> CAN WE GET FOR ALL THE PROGRAMS? BASICALLY UPDATED WITHIN REPORT.

CAN WE GET THAT?

>> I WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE YOUTH SUPPORT NETWORK BUT I THINK THE OLD DOING A LANDSCAPE SETTING WHERE THEY WILL DO THE NUMBERS FROM ALL OF THE GROUPS.

OR MULTIPLE GROUPS IN THE CITY.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I AM THE TIMEKEEPER.

I THINK WE SHOULD CLOSE OUT THE DISCUSSION BECAUSE WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE.

THE NEXT TOPIC IS YOUTH SAFETY AND RESILIENCY OPPORTUNITY.

EVERYONE HAS A FEW THINGS IN FRONT OF THEM SO, START WITH YOUR BURNING QUESTIONS.

MS. GASKIN.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

I HAVE A QUESTION, I JUST WANTED TO OFFER UP SOME COMMENTS ABOUT THE MEMO THAT MAYOR WILSON AND I HAD CIRCULATED TO GIVE SOME FRAMING CONTEXT.

FIRST WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE ABOUT WHERE IT COMES FROM.

AND SECOND, GIVE A LITTLE CONTEXT TO WHAT IS AND WHAT IS IN AN EVENT PROVIDE A FEW UPDATES.

IN TERMS OF THIS WORK COMES FROM, FOR ME, AND I THINK ALL OF US RECOGNIZE US IN THE ROOM BUT WHAT I THINK ABOUT THE ROLE OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ROLES IS TO ENSURE THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS.

AND OUR YOUTH AND THEIR WELL-BEING IS CENTRAL TO OUR ABILITY TO DO THAT.

I THINK IT IS ALSO CLEAR THAT I'M COMING FROM A PLACE NOTHING MAYOR WILSON IS TOO THAT THIS IS NOT A STEPPING INTO SOMETHING WE SHOULDN'T BE IN AN ADDICT THE MESSAGING IS COUNTERPRODUCTIVE I THINK IT REALLY IS TAKING UP OF THE ROLE WE HAVE BEEN CHARGED WITH IT IS TO CARE FOR OUR CITY AND OUR RESIDENTS.

AND WHEN WE LOOK AT YOUTH AND WE LOOK AT FAMILIES, THERE IS NOT ONE SYSTEM THE CITY WHETHER AS HOUSING OR TRANSPORTATION, SCHOOLS, IT DID DELIBERATELY DOES NOT SAY THIS AGENCY, YOU DO THIS OR THIS AGENCY, YOU DO THA BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT IS PRODUCTIVE I THINK EACH AGENCY, AND ANOTHER SCHOOL WILL TALK ABOUT THIS WE KNOW YOU ARE UNDERGOING THROUGH COMPREHENSIVE PROCESS.

I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO THINK ABOUT, HOW DO WE ACTIVATE MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS HOW TO REACTIVATE AND MOBILIZE EVERY RESOURCE WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO ENSURE THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF OUR YOUNG PEOPLE.

IN TERMS OF WHAT IS AND ISN'T, I DON'T THINK IS MEANT TO BE THE END WILL BE ALL BECAUSE IT'S TOO COMPLEX AND TOO MANY THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE FOR THERE TO BE ONE THING TO SOLVE THAT I THINK IT REALLY IS A STARTING POINT.

A STARTING POINT AND CALL TO ACTION TO GIVE SPACE FOR US TO LISTEN TO THE YOUNG PEOPLE, TO HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY, BE ABLE TO EVALUATE WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING, DELIVERED THINGS WE ARE NOT DOING AN THEN PUT IN A PLACE, A PLAN THAT WE ARE HOLDING OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE TO.

AND I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR BECAUSE THIS IS YOU KNOW, THESE CONVERSATIONS WILL GO ON FOR LONG TIME.

AND LASTLY IN TERMS OF UPDATES, I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH SOME OF MY COUNSEL COLLEAGUES, I'VE ALSO HAD THE OPPORTUNITY OF THE MAYOR HAS AS WELL TO SPEAK TO YOU DIRECTLY AND UNDERSTAND HOW DOES THIS AFFECT THEM, THEY ARE THE ONES FACING THE CHALLENGES EVERY SINGLE DAY AND HOW TO RESPOND TO THEIR NEEDS.

AND SO, WHAT HELPED INTRODUCE TAMARA AT THE COUNCIL MEETING, THERE ARE COUPLE OF UPDATES FOR TRANSPARENCY SAKE.

ONE WAS, FEEDBACK THAT THERE WAS NO STRONG MENTION OF THE ROLE AND THE IMPACT COVID HAS HAD ON THE YOUNG PEOPLE AND THE TRAUMA AND THAT HAS CAUSED THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES.

WE WILL HAVE LANGUAGE, HAVEN'T QUITE FIGURED THAT OUT, OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS.

ACKNOWLEDGING THE WEIGHT OF THE PAST TWO YEARS ON OUR YOUNG PEOPLES MENTAL HEALTH AND WELL-BEING.

SECOND THING I HEARD FROM SOME OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE WAS THAT THIS CANNOT BE A ONE AND DONE.

THIS HAS TO BE ONGOING AND THEY HAVE TO KNOW FROM THEIR LEADERS THAT WE ARE COMMITTED TO SOMETHING THAT IS CONTINUOUS.

I KNOW THE DRAFT THAT WAS CIRCULATED, HAVE THE WORD SUMMIT.

I LOVE THIS A SERIES OR WHAT THE RIGHT LANGUAGES BUT SOMETHING THAT REALLY SIGNALS THAT THIS DOES NOT END.

AFTER ONE MEETING.

THAT WAS IMPORTANT.

THE OTHER THING WE HEARD THOSE REALLY POWERFUL, ACTUALLY TALKING TO SOME OF THE YOUTH AT THE ACT YOUTH COUNCIL WAS THAT THEY DIDN'T NECESSARILY FEEL -- WE NEED TO BE REACHING OUT TO YOU THERE INTERNATIONAL SCHOOLS AND OTHER PROGRAMS, THOSE WITH JUSTICE INVOLVED IN REALLY FIGURING OUT HOW THIS IS A SPACE FOR THEM TO SHARE IN OUR REC CENTERS AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS AND THEIR GAMES, AND SPACES WHERE THEY ARE SO DON'T HOW WE ACHIEVE ALL OF THAT BUT I THINK RECOGNIZING THAT WE NEED TO ORGANIZE SOMETHING THAT ALLOWS US TO MEET OUR YOUNG PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE AND MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING SOMETHING REALLY TARGETED TO MEETING THOSE YOUTH.

AND THEN, LASTLY, I DID TO GET SOME QUESTIONS FROM FOLKS ABOUT WHY DOESN'T IT SAY SPECIFICALLY SRO, APD SHOULD DO THIS OR SCHOOL SHOULD DO THAT.

AND AGAIN, I THINK THIS COMING FROM A RECOGNITION THAT THERE ARE PROCESSES HAPPENING.

AND IT WILL BE EXPLORING THAT VERY QUESTION A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND SCHOOLS.

AND SO IT IS NOT LISTENING OR NOT RESPONDING AND GIVING SPACE FOR THOSE THINGS TO HAPPEN IF WE ARE IMMEDIATELY SAYING HERE'S THE ANSWER AND THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD BE.

I THINK ALSO RECOGNIZING THAT THERE ARE SO MANY DEPARTMENTS AND PEOPLE THAT HAVE A ROLE, HOW TO IDENTIFY AND CREATE A PROCESS THAT ALLOWS SPACE FOR ALL THOSE THINGS.

SO THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING COMPREHENSIVE AND REALLY RESPONSIVE.

I'M REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION, I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE CHAIR AND MAYOR TO HAVE SPACE FOR THIS CONVERSATION.

I JUST WANTED TO LIFT UP SOME OF THAT FRAMING AS WE WERE COMING INTO THIS.

>> THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

YES?

>> THANK YOU.

I WANT TO FIRST COMMEND MY COLLEAGUE FOR TAKING ACTION TO PUT THIS TOGETHER AND LEAD THE CONVERSATION.

I WANTED TO SORT OF SECOND AND EXPAND TO SAY THAT I HAVE BEEN EXCEEDINGLY IMPRESSED WITH SOME OF THE WORK DONE BY STUDENTS IN THE SYSTEM, LEADING THEIR OWN CONVERSATIONS AND HOW LIMITING THE SPAN AND THE SUMMIT I HAVE SAT IN ALL OF US ATTENDED A THINK THE ACT COUNCIL PRESENTATION AND I THINK, CENTERING THE STUDENTS THEMSELVES IN THIS PROCESS IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT.

I THINK BEING INCLUSIVE OF PARENTS IN THIS PROCESS IS GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT.

AND TO THE EXTENT, ONE THING THAT REALLY STRUCK ME ATTENDING THE ACHS, THEY SAID FOR THIS GENERATION MENTAL HEALTH IS NONNEGOTIABLE.

THIS ILLICIT GRADUATION.

ALL OF US ARE HERE OLD ENOUGH THAT IT WASN'T SOMETHING OUR RESPECTIVE PRINCIPALS WOULD HAVE SAID ABOUT OUR GRADUATING CLASSES.

AND SO, TO THE EXTENT THAT IT IS NOT DIRECTLY STATED IN THE MEMO, AND NO FOR THE SUMMIT CONCEPT, I THINK ELEVATING AND REALLY ENGAGING THE STUDENTS THEMSELVES, PARENTS, IS GOING TO BE AN IMPORTANT PART OF THIS PROCESS.

ALONG WITH MANY OF THE GROUPS IDENTIFIED, BUT SO, I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT.

>> MR. CHAPMAN.

>> WHEN I WAS CONSIDERING WHERE WE GO FROM HERE, I DID WANT TO SEE HOW MODERN OR HOW THIS WILL COME OFF.

A PARALLEL TRACK FOR STUDENTS AND FOR PARENTS.

I THINK THOSE NEED TO BE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PARENT AND ADULT COMMUNITY AROUND THE CULTURE WE WANT TO TRY TO CREATE FOR OUR KIDS.

AND OUR NEIGHBORS KIDS AND WHATNOT AND THEN HOPEFULLY, AT SOME POINT, JUST A MARRYING OF BOTH THE STUDENTS, HEARING FROM ADULTS AND ADULTS HERE FROM STUDENTS.

AND HOPEFULLY WE COME TO OF COURSE YOU KNOW PIE IN THE SKY HOPEFUL BUT I DON'T WANT TO, I GUESS I'M NERVOUS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A REAL AVENUE FOR PARENTS TO COME AROUND AND ADULTS TO COME AROUND AND DISCUSS SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU KNOW FRANKLY, THEY WILL NEED TO FIND IF WE SAY WE ARE GOING TO RAISE MONEY FOR X, Y, Z WE WANT TO MAKE SURE FOLKS UNDERSTAND THE GOAL.

AND I THINK THERE IS A MARRYING, THAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS WHERE ARE ADULTS AND PARENTS ARE HERE FROM THE KIDS ABOUT THE REAL NEED IN A SAFE SPACE AND A SPACE WHERE EVERYTHING IS GONE TO A CERTAIN LEVEL OF EDUCATION AND OPPORTUNITIES AND PARENTS ARE HEARING, PARENTS AND ADULTS ARE ALSO BEING ABLE TO HAVE A SPACE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE SEEING AS WELL.

I THINK THERE IS SOMETHING HEALTHY IF WE ARE ABLE TO GET TO A PLACE WHERE GENERATIONS CAN FRANKLY DIALOGUE WITH EACH OTHER AND I REALLY WANT TO SEE THAT, THE OUTCOME OF WHAT WE DO.

HOWEVER WE GET THERE AND WE PUT FOLKS FIRST TO DO THAT.

I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE FOR ALL OF US TOGETHER AND PARENTS STUDENTS AND ADULTS TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW WE WANT OUR COMMUNITY T OPERATE.

>> I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD TO MR. CHAPMAN SAID I THINK YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT, THE NEED TO BE THAT MARRYING AND ANOTHER THING I HEARD AS WELL THAT I WANT TO FIGURE HOW TO WORK INTO, SOMEONE REACHED OUT AND SET A BUSINESS OWNER AND I'VE THOUGHT OF THIS AS WELL.

AND WHERE IS A SPACE FOR ME TO COMMENT.

SO HOPING TO CHARGE STAFF WITH FIGURING OUT THE BEST WAY TO STRUCTURE IT BUT WHERE WE ARE ABLE TO REALLY HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY, WHAT WOULD SUCCESS LOOK LIKE AND HOW WOULD WE KNOW THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY CREATING A COMMUNITY WHERE ALL OF THESE ANSWERS FEEL REALLY SAFE AND I THINK WE CENTER THE MOST VULNERABLE BY CENTERING THE YOUTH THAT WILL ACTUALLY HAVE THE OUTCOME BUT WE'VE GOT TO GET THOSE.

>> CHAIR? REALLY QUICKLY.

I THINK ONE ELEMENT OF THIS CAN ALSO BE TALKED ABOUT RE-MAPPING OUR DEPARTMENT AND EXPANDING THE COMMUNICATIONS SKILL SET OR APPROACH.

ACTUALLY THINK POSITIVE STORYTELLING MAY HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY IN THE SORT OF SUMMIT AND THIS ANALYSIS AS WELL.

THERE IS I'M SURE ALL OF US HAVE OUR OWN POSITIVE EXPERIENCES, THINGS THAT HAVE WORKED AND ELEMENTS OF SCHOOL SAFETY APPROACHES OR ENGAGEMENT PROGRAMS THAT BY ELEVATING THOSE STORIES AS WELL, WE CAN EXPAND THEM OR FIND OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO APPLY THEM.

I MENTIONED THIS BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN REFERENCE TO SORT OF DOCUMENTING THIS AS WELL AS STUDYING THE LESS THAN GOOD AND LEARNING LESSONS FROM THAT.

>> YES.

>> THANK YOU.

I WOULD LIKE TO SORT OF FORCE THE COMPLIMENTS COUNCILMAN GASKINS AND THE MAYOR FOR BRINGING TOGETHER THIS DRAFT MEMO.

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YOU KNOW IF WE ARE PARENT REPRESENTATIVES IT CAN'T JUST BE THE PARENTS OF JOBS THAT MAKE IT EASY FOR THEM TO PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING ON A RANDOM MAKE THE EVENING WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE PULLING IT FROM ALL THE DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES IN THE CITY WERE ALSO MAKING IT MANDATORY WHICH I KNOW WILL BE A CHALLENGE BUT I THINK YOU ARE ALL UP TO IT.

>> ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? COMMENTS?

>> NO QUESTIONS BUT JUST, I WANT TO ECHO WHAT MY COLLEAGUE SAID.

I THINK THE COUNCILWOMAN GASKINS FOR TAKING THE INITIATIVE ON THAT.

AS LEADERS, SOMETIMES LISTENING IS, WE OVERSEE LISTENING.

SOMETIMES POLITICIANS AND LEADERS ARE LOOKED AT AS GOOD ONES WHEN THEY CAN ARTICULATE AND SPEAK BUT WE REALLY SOMETIMES DO NOT THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH WE SHOULD BE LISTENING AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING HOW THIS WILL TURN OUT.

ANYTHING YOU NEED FROM US, FOR MYSELF SPEAKING PERSONALLY, I AM THERE TO HELP.

>> MR. CHAPMAN.

>> GOING TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE POSE HERE I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR MORE FROM STAFF IS ABOUT HOW THE FIRST QUESTION, ABOUT WHAT ARE THE COMMUNICATION CHANNELS THAT WE ARE ACCESSING, LOCAL GOVERNMENT, WILL BE APD, THE HUMAN DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES, HOWEVER, TO MAKE SURE THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE FAMILIES AND STUDENTS, THOSE AT RISK, HOW'S IT HAPPENING, HOW IS IT HAPPENING WHERE THERE IS INDIVIDUAL PROTECTION AND DATA AND WHATNOT, ALSO GETTING THE SUPPORTS THAT THEY NEED.

ALSO, HOW ARE WE KIND OF MAYBE REACHING OUT TO OTHER LOCALITIES, BECAUSE AS WE TALKED ABOUT GANGS, IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS SOLELY AN ISSUE BUT I KNOW A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, THESE COUPLE OF DECADES THERE WAS A GANG TASK FORCE REGIONALLY.

MAYBE THERE'S AN UPDATE THAT WE CAN GET, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE GOOD AS WE TALK ABOUT ONE OF THE BIGGER BROADER, THAT TYPE OF ACTIVITY.

>> OKAY, DOCTOR BAIRD.

>> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.

AND I ECHO PRAISE FOR COUNCILMEMBER GASKINS AND THE MAYOR'S LEADERSHIP IMPRINTED DOCUMENT FORWARD.

I THINK MY RECURRING THOUGHTS, SINCE -- DEATH HAS BEEN THAT OUR SOLUTIONS NEED TO COME FROM EVERYONE, NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT WE WILL FIND COMING FROM THE SCHOOL COMMUNITY THIS IS REALLY SOMETHING THAT TOUCHES ALL OF US.

I'M EXCITED TO SEE WHAT CAN COME ABOUT FROM THIS.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU AND COUNCILMEMBER GASKINS, MAKING THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THIS AND THE WORK BECAUSE IT IS ACTUALLY VER NARROW FOCUSED ON ONE SPECIFIC THING.

THOUGH I THINK HISTORICALLY IN THE ESTUARDO ALVARADO DEBATE WE'VE SEEN EVERYTHING KIND OF ADDED INTO THAT.

SO I APPRECIATE STEPPING BACK AND THINKING ABOUT THIS AS SOMETHING COMPREHENSIVE, MY QUESTION IS HOW YOUR VISION THE ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS.

WHO WILL LEAD OR FACILITATE THIS WORK? IN A SICK KIND OF REFERENCE TO LIKE A PLAN OR CITYWIDE PLAN BUT WHAT ARE YOU SORT OF SEEING AS THE YOU KNOW, PRODUCT OR DELIVERABLE, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM?

>> GREAT QUESTION.

I WILL START WITH THE SECOND ONE.

IN TERMS OF THE DELIVERABLE, I'M REALLY SEEING KIND OF THAT CITYWIDE PLAN, WITH SOME CLEAR THINGS WE CAN DO AND ACT ON RIGHT AWAY.

THERE ARE PROBABLY SOME SHORT-TERM THINGS THAT WE COULD TEST AND PILOT, BUT THEN THERE ALSO SOME LONGER-TERM GOALS THAT WE NEED TO WORK TOWARDS AND THAT BEING SOMETHING, UNDER THE LAST BULLET IS A LITTLE NEBULOUS BUT IT'S BECAUSE YOUR SUMMARY DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND GROUPS THAT FOCUS ON THIS BUT HAVING SOME SORT OF ACCOUNTABILITY GROUP THAT HELP US TRACK PERFORMANCE AGAINST THOSE THINGS.

AND IN TERMS OF IMPLEMENTATION, THAT IS SOMETHING WE'RE STILL TALKING THROUGH WITH THE CITY MANAGER.

THIS IS A BIG EFFORT AND WE KNOW STAFF HAS A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON.

IT WILL REQUIRE PULLING TOGETHER MANY DIFFERENT FOLKS AND THERE'S PROBABLY PAGES I COULD PUT HERE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM I KNOW PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT HAVING MEETINGS AND YOU KNOW BETTER SPANISH FIRST RATHER THAN THEN TRANSFERRING INTO ENGLISH BUT I THINK THE RIGHT PERSON TO LEAD OUR STAFF, SOMETHING I KNOW LOCKS UP WITH THE CITY MANAGER AS HE IDENTIFIES WHO THAT IS BROWN THINK WE'VE COME UP WITH THAT PERSON YET.

TECHNICALLY, IT HAS TO BE INTRODUCED TO MY COLLEAGUE THAT I HAVE TO GET THEIR SUPPORT TOMORROW.

>> MR. MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU.

YOU KNOW, DOCTOR BAIRD, AS A THINK ABOUT YOUR QUESTION, I KIND OF THINK ABOUT A WTTW.COM/COMMENTS A COUPLE OF MINUTES AGO THAT SOMETIMES IT'S HARD FOR POLITICIANS TO LISTEN PRIOR TO RATHER THAN JUST PROVIDE AN ANSWER.

AND I HAVE MY ANSWERS, RIGHT? HAVE THE THINGS I WOULD THROW OUT THERE BUT I DO THINK PART OF THIS CONVERSATION IS YOU KNOW, TO STEP BACK BECAUSE WE DO YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK AS MANY COMMUNITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY INVEST THE AMOUNT THAT WE DO IN THE VARIED WAYS THAT WE DO IN OUR KIDS, AND CLEARLY, CLEARLY, WE SUB KIDS THAT SLIP THROUGH

THE >> IN THIS COMMUNITY.

AND THAT IS SOBERING FOR US ALL AND I THINK YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN INTERESTING I THINK IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS THAT YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE ALL HEARD FROM A LOT OF THE SAME FOLKS WHO YOU KNOW, OUR CALLING UP AND SAYING THIS IS THE ANSWER, THIS IS THE ANSWER, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

AND OF COURSE, I THINK THERE'S ALWAYS TWO THINGS THAT COME FROM THAT.

SOMETIMES THE ANSWER IS REAL QUICK BECAUSE WE SAY, ACTUALLY WE ALREADY DO THAT AND THIS IS HOW WE DO IT.

AND SECONDLY, A REALIZATION THAT NO ONE THING WILL BE THE SOLUTION TO ALL OF THESE CHALLENGES.

BUT I THINK IT'S A COLLECTION OF THINGS AND A PROCESS AND APPROACH.

I AM, AND I DON'T MEAN TO BE NEGATIVE ON THIS, BUT I AM DOUBTFUL THAT IN THIS EFFORT, WE WILL DETERMINE SOME KIND OF MAGIC THING WE NEVER THOUGHT OF.

I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT I THINK IT WILL BE A CONVERSATION AROUND HOW WE PROVIDE SERVICES, SCALES, SCOPE, HOW WE TARGET THINGS AND WHERE THE NEED IS.

I HOPE THAT AS WE HAVE THE CONVERSATION, WE WILL LEARN MORE ABOUT THE EFFECTIVENESS OF WHAT WE DO TODAY, RATHER THAN NECESSARILY, JUST YOU KNOW, KIND OF NEW THINGS, DRAMATICALLY NEW THINGS.

I DO THINK THERE IS AN EDUCATIONAL PIECE.

I DON'T MEAN TO BE CRITICAL OF SOME OF THE INPUT WE RECEIVED BUT YOU KNOW, I HAVE TWO KIDS IN THE SYSTEM, ONE WILL BE A SENIOR NEXT YEAR SO I'VE BEEN IN THE SYSTEM IS APPARENT FOR A LONG TIME, MY WIFE IS -- I FEEL LIKE I KNOW MORE THAN MOST ABOUT KIND OF WHAT HAPPENS AND EVERY DAY, MY KIDS TEACH ME SOMETHING NEW ABOUT, DID YOU KNOW THIS IS GOING ON IN THE SCHOOLS AND I'M LIKE I HAVE NO IDEA! AND SAME THING FOR MY WIFE.

I THINK WE PROBABLY HAVE ALSO TO APPROACH US WITH A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT IS OUT THERE.

AND I THINK THAT FOR THE BROADER COMMUNITY, THE MAJORITY OF OUR COMMUNITY, LET'S BE CLEAR, THAT HAVE NO CONNECTION TO OUR SCHOOLS, THAT HAVE NO KIDS IN THE SCHOOLS, NO ALUM IN THEIR HOME, NO CONNECTION TO THE SCHOOLS.

THERE IS AN EDUCATIONAL EFFORT THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN AS WE GO INTO THIS PROCESS.

AND JUST MAKING SURE THE FOLKS ARE AWARE OF WHAT WE DO, HOW WE DO IT, AND THEN GET INTO A CONVERSATION AROUND THE OPPORTUNITIES T IMPROVE AND GET BETTER.

THAT'S MY LONG ANSWER TO YOUR SHORT QUESTION.

>> AFTER JUMP IN RIGHT AFTER THAT BECAUSE WE JUST HAD THIS CONVERSATION YOU KNOW AS A BOARD, BECAUSE WE WERE GOING OUT WITH DOCTOR HUTCHINS TO LITERALLY, JUST DO SOME EDUCATION ON OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, WHAT THE GOALS ARE AND HOW WE WORKING TO ACHIEVE THOSE GOALS.

AND THE LIGHT BULBS THAT WENT OFF IN THE ROOM WITH PEOPLE JUST BEING LIKE WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THIS WAS HAPPENING.

AND SO, I AGREE, A LOT OF IT IS, OFTEN TIMES YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO COME UP WITH ANSWERS BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB AS A BOARD, OF EDUCATING THE COMMUNITY ABOUT WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS IN OUR SCHOOLS.

BECAUSE I THINK THAT COULD ALSO SHIFT THE CONVERSATION.

YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE MAKING GUESSES ALL THE TIME, IT BECOMES COUNTERPRODUCTIVE TO WHAT WE ARE ACTUALLY DOING AND TRYING TO DO.

I SECOND THAT 100 PERCENT I THINK THERE IS AN EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT TO ALL OF THIS, SO THAT PEOPLE JUST KNOW IT'S HAPPENING.

I JUST WANTED TO JUMP IN AND SAY THAT AS WELL.

DOCTOR RIEF.

>> THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR THE CONVERSATION.

AND GASKINS FOR PUTTING TOGETHER THE PROPOSAL.

IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, ONE OF THE THINGS JUST THINKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENT SURVEYS OF THE YOUTH ARE SEEN OVER THE YEARS AND THE COMMUNITY IS THAT A LOT OF THEM, MOSUL STRUCK BY ONE THING THAT STANDS OUT IS, THE LOW PERCENTAGE OF STUDENTS WHO REPORT THAT THEY FEEL LIKE THE COMMUNITY KIND OF CARES ABOUT THEM.

AND YOU KNOW YOU MENTIONED MS. GASKINS, THE FEEDBACK SOME OF THE YOUTH DO NOT WANT THIS TO BE ONE AND DONE.

AND I THINK, AND MAYOR WILSON, HE SAID THERE IS NO QUICK FIX.

I REALLY THINK THAT IS WHAT WE NEED, TO JUST BUILD MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE YOUTH TO ENGAGE WITH US.

YOU KNOW, I ESPECIALLY THINK AS CITY LEADERS IT'S AN IMPORTANT ROLE FOR US TO PLAY BECAUSE IT SHOWS LIKE YOU KNOW WE REALLY VALUE THE YOUTH.

SO THINKING ABOUT YOU KNOW, JUST HOW MAYBE IT IS LESS OF A REPORT AND RECOMMENDATIONS WE ARE LOOKING FOR, BUT MORE OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THIS ONGOING DIALOGUE WITH PARENTS AND THE COMMUNITY KNOW JUST HOW DO WE DO THAT AND THE TIMELINE OF JULY SEEMS A LITTLE AMBITIOUS.

I ALSO THINK THE SUMMER FROM OUR END, THE SUMMER IS A REALLY CHALLENGING TIME TO GET FOLKS TOGETHER.

MAYBE THINKING ABOUT THE FALL, WANTING TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT BUILDS AND IS NOT ONE AND DONE.

THANK YOU.

>> MS. IGNACIO.

>> HI EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THIS CONVERSATION.

IT IS KIND OF HEARTBREAKING FOR ME IN ONE SENSE BECAUSE I'VE BEEN IN THE CITY PROBABLY LONGER THAN ANY OF YOU, MAYBE -- I KNOW I DON'T LOOK MY AGE BUT, I SEEN A LOT.

AND I'M NOT SURPRISED BY SOME OF THE BEHAVIOR THAT WE ARE SEEING OF THE KIDS COMING OUT OF COVID BUT WE HAVE CERTAINLY COME IN OUR YEARS, HAVE HAD CHALLENGES WITH OUR YOUTH.

WITH GROUPS OF KIDS AND THINGS HAPPENING IN THE CITY.

WHEN I MET WITH MR. CHAPMAN, HE AND I MET AND ONE OF THE THINGS I TALKED ABOUT WAS, FEELING LIKE THE SENSE OF COMMUNITY THAT WE HAD MANY YEARS AGO, WHERE THE CITY

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AND SOMEONE MAY HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FAMILY WE DIDN'T HAVE.

THEY WORK FOR THE REC, AND WAS ABLE TO SAY I SEE HIM EVERY DAY AND YOU KNOW, I REALLY FELT IT WHEN I WENT TO LUIS 'S WAKE.

BECAUSE THE LARGEST POPULATION IS THE HISPANIC POPULATION AND THEY ARE FEELING REALLY DISCONNECTED.

AND IT IS HEARTBREAKING.

THAT SOMEHOW, WE HAVE MANAGED TO LOSE THOSE RELATIONSHIPS, AND I'M NOT SURE IF IT IS COVID, I'M NOT SURE IF IT IS MILLENNIAL AND MAYBE I AM OLD SCHOOL.

BUT YOU KNOW, WE WOULD VISIT HOMES AND WE WOULD DO IT TOGETHER.

AND WE HAD RELATIONSHIPS WITH PEOPLE IN THE REC CENTER AND YES, LAW ENFORCEMENT BUT OTHER AREAS TOO.

NOW WE ARE ON ZOOM AND HAVING MEETINGS ON ZOOM AND OUR KIDS NEED THAT CONNECTION, THEY NEED TO FEEL IMPORTANT AND THEY NEED TO FEEL LIKE SOMEBODY IS LOOKING OUT FOR THEM.

AND IT IS GOING TO TAKE THE WHOLE COMMUNITY BACK TO DO THAT.

NO ONE ENTITY WILL BE ABLE TO DO IT.

AND I DON'T THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO IT SITTING AROUND THE TABLE.

THESE KIDS REALLY, THEY NEED TO KNOW WE CARE.

AND I REALIZE PEOPLE RETIRE AND PEOPLE LEAVE AND YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CHANGE AND THEY MAY COME IN AND THEY MAY NOT KNOW THE CITY BUT WE ARE REALLY SMALL COMMUNITY WHERE YOU THINK ABOUT IT.

MY HUSBAND AND I KIND OF WALLOW AROUND IN THE COMMUNITY AND DECIDE WHAT WE WILL EAT AND WE WILL GO.

WE ALWAYS GO PLACES WHERE WE SEE PEOPLE AND TALK TO PEOPLE AND, I FEEL THAT WE ARE MISSING THAT.

AND I FEEL LIKE IF WE DON'T FIND A WAY TO COME TOGETHER AND BRING THAT BACK TO THE TABLE, OUR KIDS WILL CONTINUE TO SUFFER.

WE ARE WORKING IN SILOS, WE ARE NOT WORKING TOGETHER, WE ARE NOT COMMUNICATED TOGETHER, WE ARE NOT TALKING TOGETHER.

THE KIDS IN THE FAMILIES ARE STRUGGLING.

I DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS BUT I HAVE SEEN IT WORK BETTER.

BETTER THAN IT'S WORKING NOW.

AND SO, MY HOPE IS THAT WE CAN GET THROUGH COVID.

WE GET PAST THIS PANDEMIC AND WE CAN START WORKING TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR FAMILY AND YOUTH.

>> OKAY MS. GREEN THEN MR. -- >> ONE QUICK POINT.

THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT, SO WELL SAID.

I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY THAT FAMILIES BEYOND THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY HERE IN ALEXANDRIA ARE FEELING THE SAME WAY.

WE CAN SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT THE LOW INCOME, AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY AS WELL.

I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT ANNA GOES BEYOND THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY.

>> I'LL ADD TWO THINGS.

ONE TO MS. GREEN'S POINT THIS IS NOT ANYTHING NEW IT'S BEEN LIKE THIS FOR A WHILE AND A LOT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE CONTINUALLY DONE TO MAKE SURE THEIR WELCOMING PLACES WITH THE SCHOOLS SO THAT FAMILIES CAN FEEL MORE CONNECTED, ABSOLUTELY.

AND WITH THE COLLEAGUES ON THE SCHOOL BOARD KNOW, ONE ACTIONABLE ITEM ESPECIALLY AT THE HIGH SCHOOL FOR 20 YEARS WE HAD A PARENT LIAISON WITH THE DIRECT LINE THAT SPOKE SPANISH.

AND SINCE THE PERSON RETIRED, THAT POSITION HAS NOT BEEN FILLED.

>> MR. BAILEY, AND THEN -- BAGLEY.

>> IN A WAY, I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON THE COMMENT ABOUT THE BAD TIMING.

THE ONLY I APPRECIATE THIS PUSH FOR URGENCY THE JULY AND AUGUST TIMEFRAME BECAUSE I WAS OF COULD COMMIT TO, SOMETHING THAT WOULD DEMONSTRATE WE GOING TO HEAD INTO THE NEXT SCHOOL YEAR, AND SOME CONCRETE WAY, RECOGNIZING AN EFFORT TO HAVE TAKEN WHATEVER SMALL STEPS, AND EVEN IF THEY'RE JUST REITERATING STEPS, THE MAYOR REFERENCE, WE ARE UNLIKELY TO DISCOVER SOME SOLUTION THAT HASN'T BEEN DEBATED, DISCUSSED OR CONSIDERED BEFORE BUT IF THERE SMALL, INCREMENTAL OR EVEN PUBLICIZING AN UPLIFTING EXISTING OPTIONS, LET'S AT LEAST TRY TO HAVE SOMETHING TO POINT TO BEFORE THIS NEXT SCHOOL YEAR AND THEN MAINTAIN IT AS A PROCESS.

I KNOW THAT IS AMBITIOUS BUT I RESPOND TO THAT IN THE PROPOSAL, THE IDEA THAT EVEN IF IT IS JUST DRAWING UP A MEMO OF EXISTING POOLS APPEARS MAY NOT HAVE BEEN AWARE OF, TEACHERS, STUDENTS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE MAYBE, FUND ADDITIONALLY, WHATEVER EMERGENCY WAYS THAT WE HAVE IN THE CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION.

THAT IS A GOAL I WAS HOPING TO TRY AND SHARE TO MOVE FORWARD.

>> MR. BAILEY.

>> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.

FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO COUNCILWOMAN GASKINS AND THE MAYOR FOR WHAT THEY PUT INTO THAT, I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU GUYS.

THEN TOUCH ON MY COLLEAGUES, TO REFERENCE THE RACIAL COMPOSITION, I'M LOOKING AT THE STATS, RACIAL COMPOSITIONS RESTS, BLACKMAILS 44 PERCENT OF HISPANIC MALES AND WHITE MALES TOGETHER IS LESS THAN THAT.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT IN MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL, IT'S THE SAME.

WHITE MALES AND HISPANIC MALES ARE LESS TOGETHER THAN THE BLACKMAILS.

IT TELLS YOU THAT THERE IS SOME ISSUES HERE.

THAT WE NEED TO WORK WITH.

AND DON'T TAKE THIS THE WRONG WAY FOLKS, I KNOW WE SIT AROUND THE TABLE AND DO A LOT OF TALKING, BUT WE PHYSICALLY NEED TO BE OUT THERE.

A COUPLE OF YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

I KNOW FIVE OR SIX YEARS AGO WE HAD A FEW GANGS THAT WERE SUPPOSEDLY IN THE OLD TOWN AREA THAT WERE DOING SOME SHOOTINGS AND DIFFERENT THINGS OF THAT NATURE SO I GOT WITH SOME MY FRIENDS AND WE MET WITH THOSE GANGS WE BROUGHT THEM IN THE SAME ROOM THE POLICE DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO BE THERE AND I -- THEY WANTED TO BE THERE BUT I SAID THAT WE NEEDED T BUILD A RELATIONSHIP WITHOUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THERE.

AND THEN, TIME WENT BY WHERE THERE WAS NO NEW SHOOTINGS OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE FOR A WHILE.

AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE, THAT IT WAS BECAUSE OF US BUT WE TRIED TO GET OUT THERE AND DO SOMETHING INSTEAD OF JUST TALKING ABOUT IT.

OUR LEADERS, WANT TO GIVE THEM MY CARD AND TOLD HIM WHO I WAS, THEY WERE VERY SURPRISED.

THE NEXT WEEK WHAT DID WE DO? WE PUT ON A JOB FAIR AT CHARLES HOUSTON.

WE TURNED AROUND AND GAVE THEM GIFT CARDS TO GO OUT AND GET CLOTHING TO SHOW UP FOR THE JOB FAIR AND WE WERE GOING TO SHOW THEM HOW TO DRESS FOR A JOB.

WE CAN SIT AROUND AND TALK A LOT, BUT WE NEED TO PHYSICALLY GET OUT THERE.

YOU KNOW, THE VICE MAYOR, SHE DISCUSSED, HAD TO BACKTRACK, BUT HE TALKED ABOUT THE SPORTS PROGRAMS IN THE CITY.

IT TAKES VOLUNTEERS, RIGHT? I STARTED VOLUNTEERING MANY YEARS AGO COACHING BECAUSE SOMEONE ON THE SCHOOL BOARD ASKED ME TO DO IT.

THAT'S HOW I GOT INTO IT.

BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE THE VOLUNTEER TO DO IT WE CAN SIT HERE AND TALK ALL DAY BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE OUT THERE PHYSICALLY DOING IT, KEEPING THESE KIDS OFF THE STREET, MY MODEL LAYS ALL THE TIME WE CAN PAY NOW OR LATER.

IT'S EASY TO PAY NOW.

PAY LADIES FOR 50 OR 60,000 YEAR TO KEEP THEM INCARCERATED.

AND THAT'S A GOOD CHANCE WE LOST THEM.

SO I'M NOT BEATING UP ON ANYONE, I'M JUST SAYING, THERE HAS TO BE SOME ACTION BEHIND THE WORDS.

I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU GUYS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU MR. BAILEY.

ALL RIGHT.

I AM THE TIMEKEEPER.

SO, YEAH.

I THINK WE ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.

LET'S KEEP GOING.

MR. MAYOR.

>> BEFORE MOVE ON, THERE IS A HOLD COMMITTEE NOW INFORMATION THE CITY COUNCIL WERE VOTING TO APPROVE I BELIEVE A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE, TOMORROW.

IS EVERYONE ELSE ASSEMBLED?

>> YES.

GOOD QUESTION.

EVERYONE ELSE IS ASSEMBLED.

WE HAVE THE FIRST MEETING TOMORROW, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW QUICKLY YOU CAN GET YOUR MEMBERS, YOUR VOTING TOMORROW SO THEY WON'T BUT THE FIRST MEETING IS OCCURRING TOMORROW.

SO BUT AS SOON AS YOU GET YOUR NUMBER SEND IT TO US AND WILL GET THEM UPDATED.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT, THANK YOU.

>> TO THAT POINT, WILL YOU SEND SOMEONE AS A REPRESENTATIVE TO THE MEETING EVEN THOUGH THE PERSON HAS NOT BEEN APPOINTED?

>> CAN YOU TELL US WHERE IT WILL BE? AND WHAT TIME?

>> YES WE CAN DO THAT.

>> YES? QUICK QUICK FOLLOW-UP QUESTION.

SINCE YOU HAVE THE MEMBER SELECTED AND THE FIRST READING, IS THE MEETING SCHEDULED, OR ARE YOU ANTICIPATING COMPLETION? IS THERE A BROADER SENSE OF THE TIMELINE FOR THE PROGRAM?

>> THE TIMELINE IS, THE RECOMMENDATION WILL COME TO THE BOARD IN DECEMBER.

SO, THE FIRST MEETING IS TOMORROW, THEN THERE WILL BE A SERIES OF MEETINGS, WE ALSO HAVE SOME CHECKPOINTS WITH THE BOARD.

SO AS THEY ARE DOING THEIR WORK, WHEN WE ARE IN AN AGENDA SETTING, WE WILL DETERMINE WHICH POINT TO GET UPDATES TO THE SCHOOL BOARD FROM THE COMMITTEE.

AND BY DECEMBER THERE WILL BE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD TO LOOK AT.

MS. JACKSON.

>> ALL THAT BEING SAID, THE SUNSET ON THIS WAS JUNE 30, 2022.

CONCERNING SRO'S AND UPDATES THAT THE PROGRAM WILL BRING.

IF IT IS NOT BEING CONSIDERED UNTIL DECEMBER, BUT SRO'S ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE RETURNING TO SCHOOLS AFTER JUNE 30, WHAT EXACTLY IS THE PLAN?

>> THAT IS -- YEAH.

>> I AM JUST READING OFF OF WHAT I WAS READING -- >> RIGHT.

>> THE POLICE HAVE OUR MONEY.

WE SEPARATED IT THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING, WE SEPARATED IT.

>> I WILL TELL YOU WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS, BUT THAT IS A CONVERSATION, YOU GUYS, I CAN'T GET INVOLVED IN THAT.

>> I THINK THE VICE MAYORS CORRECT THAT WE SEPARATED THE DECISION THE POLICY DIRECTION FROM THE BUDGET DECISION.

WE PROVIDED A FULL YEAR BUDGET FUNDING FOR THE POSITION BY PUTTING, FOR THE POSITIONS BY PUTTING IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT PATROL BUDGET.

THE DIRECTION AROUND POLICY, I THINK THAT IS A CONVERSATION THAT COUNSEL CAN HAVE ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.

AND IF WE DECIDE TO CHANGE THE STATUS QUO THAT IS SOMETHING THE COUNCIL WOULD DO WHATEVER WE WANT.

I THINK THAT'S A CONVERSATION HAD WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND THEY NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT AS WE GO FORWARD.

>> SAYS THE POSITIONS WERE CREATED AND SET ASIDE BUT NOT ASSIGNED, IF THE COUNCIL

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>> DISCUSSION OF THE CHIEFS.

>> MR. MANAGER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON THAT?

>> I THINK CERTAINLY UNTIL THAT POLICY DECISION GETS MADE, THE CURRENT APPROACH, I THINK IS WHAT THE CHIEF WOULD CONTINUE, SO THAT, THAT IS AVAILABLE TO THE SCHOOLS AND I THINK THAT IS ESSENTIALLY, HOW I THINK WE WOULD APPROACH IT AND THE POLICY DECISION GET MADE AND REQUIRES ADJUSTMENT, I THINK WHAT COUNSELED IT WAS GREAT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE THAT IT PROVIDES THE ABILITY FOR US TO MOVE TOWARDS WHATEVER THAT WERE FINALIZED DECISION IS WITHOUT HAVING TO GO BACK AND TRY TO ACHIEVE SOME FUNDING.

UNTIL WE HEAR OTHERWISE, WE WILL CONTINUE TO OPERATE AS THOUGH WE DID PRIOR TO THE SCHOOL YEAR ENDING.

>> THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

LAST THING WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IS FUTURE JOINT WORK SESSIONS.

AND THIS IS UP BECAUSE I THINK WE'VE HAD ALL SOME CONSENSUS THAT WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER MORE THAN JUST THE TWO TIMES PER YEAR THAT WE DO COME TOGETHER.

SO, THE MAYOR AND I TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT.

MAYBE WE WILL JUST, MAYBE WE CAN START WITH SORT OF, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT AND GET PEOPLES INPUT?

AND YOU KNOW, IF, LET'S DEAL WITH -- >> IF YOU LIKE EVERY YEAR, WE DO THE SAME THING.

WE SAY WE SHOULD GET TOGETHER MORE THAN WE SCRAMBLE TO SCHEDULE SOMETHING AND ALL THAT.

OBVIOUSLY WE'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS NO QUESTION, WE ALWAYS DO THAT.

I THINK THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WE'VE BEEN HAVING A FALL CONVERSATION.

USUALLY A CIP FOCUS, I THINK IT PROBABLY MAKES SENSE.

AND THEN I THINK THIS TIME OF YEAR, IT SEEMS TO BE MAYBE A LITTLE BIT EARLIER BEFORE SCHOOL IS OUT BECAUSE WE MADE THAT MISTAKE.

I THINK IT IS A GOOD TIME FOR US TO GET TOGETHER TO DISCUSS THINGS THAT ARE NOT BUDGET RELATED.

MY SUGGESTION IS THAT AT THE LEAST, WE SAY THAT WE WILL HAVE THREE SET WORK SESSIONS PER YEAR, AND THEN IF WE NEED ANOTHER ONE, WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

AT THE OUTSET OF THE YEAR LET'S GET ON THE CALENDAR FROM THE BEGINNING.

SO THAT WE ARE NOT IN THIS GAME OF TRYING TO SCHEDULE.

THE BUDGET WANTED THINK WE DO A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF GETTING THIS SCHEDULED BECAUSE WE HAVE SET DATES AND WORK SESSION DATES BUT THE OTHER TWO -- I THINK WE SHOULD GET GOING ON THAT.

THAT IS JUST MY SUGGESTION.

I DON'T KNOW FOLKS WANT MORE BUT AT LEAST WE SHOULD HAVE THOSE THREE.

>> ONE A MONTH! [LAUGHTER] I QUIT.

[LAUGHTER] IF WE DO ONE A MONTH LET'S START WITH AIR CONDITIONING NEXT TIME.

I SUGGEST THAT!

>> WHY ARE YOU SWEATING?

>> IT IS HOT IN HERE!

>> ARE YOU GUYS HOT? THANK YOU! IT IS BURNING UP IN HERE.

>> HE IS OVER HERE DRIPPING.

>> MS. GREENE.

>> I WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK IT IS GREAT THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO COME TOGETHER AS A GROUP, BUT CAN WE ESTABLISH LIKE WHO IS REACHING OUT TO WHOSO THAT WE CAN GET THIS DONE? BECAUSE IT WAS QUITE A PROCESS TO GET THIS ONE ON THE BOOKS.

IF WE COULD ESTABLISH THAT PROCESS AS WELL, THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

>> I WILL TAKE THAT ON AND MAKE SURE THAT IT GETS ON EVERYONE'S CALENDAR, SET, THOSE THREE WITH THE ABILITY TO ADD IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC THINGS, I WORK WITH THE STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS.

>> EVERYONE SEND IT RIGHT NOW TO JIM HE WILL WORK IT OUT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I THINK MEETING THREE TIMES YEARS GREAT IF IT WERE FOR MARKET THINK THEY WILL PROBABLY BE ENOUGH CONTENT TO FILL THAT.

ANOTHER WAY THAT WE CAN COMMUNICATE, WE HAVE PART-TIME STAFFERS, EACH COUNCIL MEMBER HAS A PART-TIME STAFFER.

AS YOU CAN SEE THE NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET LET ME SAY AS SOMEONE WHO WILL BE VOTING ON WHETHER TO FULLY FUND THE BUDGET WHEN YOU AGREE TO INCREASE THE STAFF TO DO YOUR WORK I WILL BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.

I THINK WILL MAKE THIS CROSS BODY COMMUNICATION AS WELL AS YOUR INTERNAL WORK A LOT EASIER.

[LAUGHTER] >> I WAS GOING TO SAY, HAVE YOU BEEN TALKING TO KELLY?

>> I PROMISED MANY PEOPLE I WOULD BRING THAT UP AT THIS MEETING.

>> KURT SAID YOU'RE WELCOME.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER INPUT, MR. CHAPMAN?

>> ONE FINAL THING.

AND I APPRECIATE HIM SPEAKING UP, I REALLY DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY KIND OF JUST BLOW THIS OFF I WOULD THINK THERE IS, MEMBER BAILEY TO TALK ABOUT KIND OF WHAT, ESPECIALLY IN RESPONSE TO WHAT MS. IGNACIO SAID, THE REALLY THINK EACH OF US HAVE AND THE POWER EACH OF US HAVE IN OUR INDIVIDUAL POSITIONS, I HAVE SEEN SOME TREMENDOUS OUTREACH BY FOLKS AROUND THIS TABLE.

WHAT WE WANT TO.

OBVIOUSLY EVERYONE GOT ELECTED SO WE KNOW HOW TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND TALK TO PEOPLE.

EVEN WHEN WE ARE NOT ELECTED, I'VE SEEN FOLKS THAT LIKE MS. GREENE, HER COMMITMENT TO LITERACY WITH WORKED WITH THE YOUNG KIDS AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE LITERATE AND HAVE A OPPORTUNITY TO READ.

I THINK WE EACH HAVE THE POWER TO STEP OUT AND COUNTER SHOWCASE THAT.

IT IS NOT POLITICAL AND I THINK HOWEVER WE FIND OUR AVENUE AND OUR -- THIS IS WHEN THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO SEE THAT.

I THINK MEMBER BAILEY -- >> HE'S A COUNCILMAN.

FOREVER!

>> I THINK THAT HE PERFECTLY HIT ON THAT.

BUT I THINK TO MS. IGNACIO'S QUESTION ABOUT WHAT USED TO WORK BACK IN THE DAY, IN ALEXANDRIA, IT WAS FOLKS IN DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDER POSITIONS, NOT JUST ELECTED OFFICIALS, BUT ACROSS THE COMMUNITY, HAD NO PROBLEM STEPPING OUT AND HELPING A FAMILY OR HELPING A CHILD OR HELPING ANOTHER ADULT.

AND REACHING OUT TO THEM YOU KNOW, WE KNOW A LOT OF THE PROGRAMS, INITIATIVES, FUTURE HAPPENINGS AND SO, FIGURE OUT HOW WE EACH CAN DO OUR OWN OUTREACH.

WHETHER IT IS THE SUPER DETAILED MONTHLY NEWSLETTER, YOU KNOW I DON'T THINK IT IS THAT.

BUT HOWEVER WE DO OUR OUTREACH TO DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES.

YOU KNOW, I THINK IT REALLY DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE WITH OUR KIDS AND FAMILIES IN PARTICULAR.

WHEN THEY SEE US OUT THERE, ONE OF THE STAKEHOLDERS HE IS OUT THERE.

THAT IS YOUR CALL TO ACTION SOMETIMES.

THEY SEE US KIND OF ROLLING UP OUR SLEEVES AND DOING SOMETHING ON A CONSISTENT BASIS.

NOT JUST A ONE TIME PHOTO OP.

I KNOW BEING HERE AS LONG AS I HAVE, HOWEVER IN THIS MOMENT WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN GIVE TO THIS COMMUNITY, I THINK TO THE POINT, REALLY IS GOING TO HELP TURN THE TIDE OF WHAT WE WANT TO SEE, IN ADDITION TO THE PLANNING AND INITIATIVES THAT WE BRING FORWARD.

>> I LIKE PEOPLE TO REMEMBER THIS PHRASE THAT THE COUNCILMAN WAS TOUCHING ON IS SOMETHING THAT, IT TAKES A VILLAGE.

HONESTLY, TELL ME THE LAST TIME YOU HEARD THAT.

WHAT THE COUNCILMAN WAS TOUCHING ON WAS SPOT ON, WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT MEDIATION, INTERVENTION OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

HONESTLY, I JUST DON'T THINK WE DO ENOUGH.

I JUST DON'T THINK WE DO ENOUGH.

I THINK THAT WE CARE ABOUT OUR KIDS, BUT WE HAVE TO CARE ABOUT ME IF ONE KID FAILS, WILL FAIL.

SO I JUST THINK WE NEED TO DO MORE.

THESE STATS TO ME ARE APPALLING.

YOU KNOW, AND ALEXANDRIA CITY NEXT TO WASHINGTON D.C., I JUST THINK WE NEED TO DO MORE.

THANK YOU, I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT.

>> I'LL JUST ADD TO THAT.

I THINK A VERY IMPORTANT ROLE THAT WE DO PLAY IS TO MAKE SURE WE ARE TAKING CARE OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE JOB OF BEING OUR UNDERGROUND AND DOING THE WORK.

I THINK WE CANNOT FORGET THAT AS ELECTIVES.

WE HAVE STAFF WHO ARE ON THE GROUND DURING THE WORKDAY TODAY.

IF WE ARE NOT TAKING CARE OF THEM, WE ARE NOT DOING OUR JOB BECAUSE IF THEY ARE NOT TAKING CARE OF, THEY CANNOT CONTINUE TO BE OUT THERE AND TO COME EVERYDAY BECAUSE IT'S WORK.

WORK WITH CHILDREN IS DIFFICULT.

WORK WITH YOU KNOW, CHILDREN AND FAMILIES WHO STRUGGLE, IS EMOTIONALLY DRAINING.

IT IS VERY TAXING.

AND THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO COME BACK EVERY SINGLE DAY.

SO LET'S JUST DO HER JOB AND MAKE SURE WE TAKE CARE OF THEM AS WELL.

EXCUSE ME?

>> POWER LIAISON PAY.

>> THERE ARE LOTS OF LAYERS TO IT.

WERE YOU GOOD? OKAY.

IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE AT LEAST LOOKING AT SCHEDULING THREE MEETINGS FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR.

I WILL DEFINITELY, IN AGENDA SETTING MS. GREEN AND I WILL KEEP THAT ON THE RADAR SO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE WORKING TO COORDINATE THAT WITH THE CITY.

AND AS WE ARE DOING THAT, THINGS ARE GOING, WE CAN DETERMINE IF THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL ONE THAT WE NEED YOU KNOW, WHEN WE CAN GET THAT IN.

>> AND IT SOUNDS LIKE CERTAINLY, FOR THIS YEAR, THE FIRST WE NEED TO DO IS GET THE FALL ON THE CALENDAR.

AND IT SOUNDS AGREE WITH AGENDA FOR THAT.

THAT WILL BE THE OUTPUT OF WHATEVER YOU'VE DONE AT THIS POINT.

THE BUDGET ONE AND THE BUDGET PROCESS IS BUDGET AND THEN THROUGHOUT THE YEAR THINK WE CAN POPULATE THE AGENDA AFTER WHAT THE BUDGET LOOKS LIKE.

>> WE WILL ALWAYS DO STUFF.

>> IF I MIGHT.

>> IF WE ARE COMING BACK -- IF WE ARE COMING BACK IN THE FALL, IS THAT WE WILL HAVE THE PROPERTIES, THE LISTINGS AND ALL THAT? CAN WE DISCUSS AT THAT MEETING?

>> YES I WILL HAVE THAT PART A AND I THINK A GOOD PIECE OF PART B.

THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT ROUGHER BUT IT WILL BE ENOUGH TO START HAVING DETAILED CONVERSATION.

>> THANK YOU.

>> OKAY.

THANK YOU TO EVERYONE FOR COMING AND WE WILL SEE YOU SOON.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.