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>> I LIKE TO CALL OUR JANUARY 5 HALFWAY TO HALL OF FAME COMMITTEE TOGETHER.

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TO ORDER, RATHER.

FIRST OF ALL, BEFORE WE TAKE ROLL CALL AGAIN WISHING EVERYONE A HAPPY NEW YEAR.

I HOPE YOU HAD A SAFE ONE AND LOOKING FORWARD TO REALLY GET GOING AND STARTING THINGS OFF IN 2022 IT IS HERE.

AGAIN, HOPE YOU ENJOYED IT.

CAMILLA, WHAT YOU DO WILL CALL FOR US, PLEASE.

>> WAYNE SANDERS

>> HERE

>> DID YOU SAY IT WAS YOUR BIRTHDAY?

>> NO, I WAS SAYING MY BIRTHDAY WAS ONE OCTOBER.

>> GEMMA LEWIS.

>> HERE.

>> JAMES ORDEN.

>> HERE.

>> JILL JOE.

>> HERE.

>> MICHAEL JOHNSON.

>> HERE, IT'S MY BIRTHDAY TODAY.

>> FACEBOOK DID NOT TELL ME.

>> I AM JUST KIDDING.

>> JACINTA GREEN.

>> HERE.

>> MARTIN EISENHOWER.

>> HERE.

>> ROBERTA.

>> SEE IF SHE IS LOGGED IN.

>> BOB TROUT.

>> HERE.

>> AS FAR AS NOT HERE I KNOW MR. MERCER SAID HE COULD NOT BE HERE BUT MAYBE TRACY WILL JUMP ON NOT SURE ABOUT ANNA OR JIM CLARK.

AM I MISSING ANYONE ELSE?

>> GEMMA CLARK THEY COME ON HE'S DEALING WITH A TRIAL SO HE MAY COME IN.

SO WE HAVE A SEVEN MEMBERS DOES THAT GIVE US A QUORUM?

>> I BELIEVE SO.

>> DANIEL HAS NO POWER SO SHE'S DEALING WITH THAT ISSUE.

SHE MAY JOIN US.

>> TRACY JUST JOINED.

>> THANK YOU, CAMILLA.

DID EVERYONE GET THE AGENDA FOR THE LAST MEETING I MEAN THE MINUTES FOR LESS MEETING?

>> YES.

>> I HOPE YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK OVER IT.

LET'S ADAPT THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT.

ANY CHANGES OR ADD ONTO THE AGENDA TONIGHT? SEE NONE WE WILL GO WITH MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING DECEMBER 6 MEETING.

>> IF I'M SCHOOL INTO FAST IF THIS IS YOUR FIRST MEETING, LET ME KNOW.

HERE IT SAYS, CAMILLA, WILL PROVIDE ROBERTS RULES OF ORDER "CHEAT SHEET".

DOES ANYONE NEED ME TO GO BACK UP?

>> WHAT WE WILL BE DISCUSSING TODAY ARE THE REVIVED FEBRUARY 21, 2021 HALL OF FAME INDUCTION HONOREE CRITERIA.

IS THAT IT?

>> I THINK HE GOT KICKED OUT.

>> I WANT TO MAKE ONE CORRECTION TO THE AGENDA WHERE IT SAYS REVIEW THE SCREAMING COMMITTEE GUIDELINES.

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I THINK IT SHOULD BE SCREENING.

I LIKE THAT IT SAYS SCREAMING.

>> I AM UPDATING THE ATTENDANCE FOR YOU, ANNIKA.

HOW ARE YOU?

>> THANK YOU, SORRY I WAS AT WORK.

>> MR. JOHNSON STILL.

>> YOU KNOW WHAT, WHEN HE CAME IN HE WAS ON THE PARTICIPANT SIDE.

LET ME SEE IF HE IS THERE.

I HAVE TO STOP AT MY SHARE.

NO, HE IS NOT OVER THERE EITHER.

>> I SEE HIM HERE IN THE MEETING.

WHY IS HE NOT ON SCREEN?

>> CAN YOU HEAR ME, YET?

>> YES, ROBERTA.

>> HE IS HERE, MICHAEL JOHNSON, HE IS HERE.

>> THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT AK.

>> OH AK JOHNSON I DO NOT SEE HE WAS DROPPED OFF.

>> I AM THE MAGNUSON MAGNIFICENT ONE.

>> HERE IS.

>> ARE YOU LOOKING FOR HOW TO DO MOTIONS IS THAT

>> WHAT WHAT YOU ARE INTERESTED IN LEARNING? AK SAID IS WHAT WE SHOULD FOLLOW SOME ROBERTS RULES OF ORDER SO HE'S GONNA SEND A CHEAT SHEET SO I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THAT WAS ABOUT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW STRICT YOU GUYS ARE ABOUT POINT OF INFORMATION AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

>> WE ARE TRYING TO GET BETTER MR. PISCIOTTA.

WE NEED TO PUT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO ACCEPT THE AGENDA.

>> SORRY, I WILL STOP TALKING.

>> I SEE THEM BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS UP.

>> HE DROPPED OFF AGAIN.

>> MY LAPTOP IS GOING CRAZY, CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> YES.

>> I AM ON MY IPHONE, SORRY ABOUT THAT.

WE WILL GO BACK TO AGENDA.

FIRST OF ALL, THIS ADOPTED AGENDA FOR TONIGHT IF THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THAT.

[II. Adoption of Meeting Agenda]

>> ONLY PETE SCREAMING PART BUT I LIKE THAT.

>> I MOVED TO ACCEPT THE AGENDA.

>> MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AGENDA.

>> ALL IN FAVOR.

>> ALL OPPOSED.

>> HEARING THEN WE ACCEPT THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT.

APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE DECEMBER 6 MEETING, ANY QUESTIONS?

[III. Approval of Meeting Minutes]

THE ONLY ADDITION I DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ROBERTA, ROBERTA YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THOSE MINUTES AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS A COMMITTED GROUP YOU WANT TO BE A PART OF, A SUBCOMMITTEE FOR SELECTION.

>> ART DATE LISTED ON THE MINUTES, I CAN PULL IT UP.

>> IF YOU CAN PULL OF THE MINUTES I KNOW THEY ARE ON THE MINUTES.

>> CAN YOU SEE THAT ON YOUR SCREEN?

>> YES, CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> YES.

>> GREAT, GREAT.

I CAN DO THE COACH ADMIN CONTRIBUTORS.

>> GOT IT.

>> ALL RIGHT, IS THERE ANOTHER ONE YOU WANT TO BE A PART OF?

>> 1965 INDIVIDUAL.

>> OKAY, WE GOT THAT.

>> YET, I HAVE IT.

>> THANK YOU, CAMILLA.

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GO FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM OUR DECEMBER 6 MEETING.

>> MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

>> I SECOND THAT MOTION.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? IT IS UNANIMOUS.

GOING TO THE AGENDA, FIRST OF ALL, COMMUNICATION FROM OUTSIDE ANYONE SUSAN WE HAVE?

>> WE HAVE NO ONE VISITING THE MEETING TONIGHT.

>> OKAY WE HAVE NO COMMUNICATION FROM THE OUTSIDE FOR THE COMMITTEE.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO TO OLD BUSINESS.

[V.1. Nomination Timelines Approval]

IN YOUR AGENDA THAT YOU HAD A TIMELINE THAT WAS SENT FOR, THAT WE LOOKED AT FOUR PROCEDURE WHICH WE WANTED TO GO, WE NEED TO APPROVE THAT.

HAS EVERYONE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ THROUGH THAT AND UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH THE TIMELINE HERE 2 SUSAN, IF YOU COULD PUT THAT, WE BROUGHT THIS UP TO MEETINGS AGO SO WE BRING IT BACK FOR APPROVAL.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE INFORMATION IS ALREADY STARTED.

CLOSING OF THE NOMINATIONS IS JANUARY 31.

FEBRUARY THROUGH JANUARY 31 WE ARE TAKING IN ALL NOMINATIONS.

ALL RIGHT, SELECTION OF THE NEXT INDUCTION CLASS WILL TAKE THE NOMINEES FROM THE SELECTION COMMITTEE SCREENING COMMITTEE WE WILL HAVE THOSE COME FORWARD, THE FIRST VOTE WILL BE IN APRIL, THE FIRST MONDAY IN APRIL.

THE THIRD MONDAY IN APRIL AND THEN WE PRESENTED TO SCHOOL BOARD FOR APPROVAL AND THEN PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT.

THAT CHANGES FROM WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST.

SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT JUST TRYING TO GIVE US MORE TIME TO GET THROUGH THE PROCESS.

ANY QUESTIONS?

>> LOOKS GOOD.

>> VERY REASONABLE.

>> OKAY CAN I GET A MOTION, PLEASE?

>> MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE NEW TIMETABLE FOR 2022 AND BEYOND.

>> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION FROM JIMMY AND A SECOND FROM WHO WAS THAT SECOND?

>> I MADE THE MOTION AND MR. WARD 2ND.

>> YOU MADE A MOTION AND SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ANYONE OPPOSED?

>> HEARING NONE THE ADOPTION OF THIS TIMELINE WILL GO FORWARD PAST 2022.

THANK YOU ON THAT.

THE OTHER THING ON THE AGENDA WAS THE SCREENING COMMITTEE GUIDELINES.

[V.2. Review Screaming Committee Guidelines]

I THINK THAT THE AGENDA I SENT OUT I WENT BACK AND PULLED OUT THE CRITERIA FROM OUR BYLAWS.

SUSAN, WOULD YOU HAVE THAT AVAILABLE FOR US?

>> WAS IT AT THE LAST MEETING BY ANY CHANCE?

>> IT WAS IN THE SAME DOCUMENT.

>> HOLD ON, SORRY.

SORRY, I HAVE TOO MANY DOCUMENTS.

IT'S PART OF THE AGENDA?

>> YES.

>> THERE WE GO SORRY I DID NOT REALIZE THERE WAS ANOTHER PAGE, SORRY ABOUT

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THAT.

>> GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, SUSAN.

>> EVEN MORE, WOW.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

>> ALL THIS INFORMATION IS IN OUR BYLAWS AND HAS BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE SO NOTHING CHANGED HERE BUT JUST REFRESHING YOURSELF AS WE GO THROUGH LOOKING AT THE NOMINEES THAT YOU WANT TO BRING FORWARD AS A COMMITTEE.

WE TALKED ABOUT I THINK WE NEED TO DO THIS IN PERSON WHEN WE COME TOGETHER IN FEBRUARY.

REALLY LOOK DOWN AND COME UP WITH SOME TYPE OF CHECK SHEET LIKE I SHOWED BEFORE SO WE CAN CHECK OFF SO THAT WILL HELP US AS FAR AS WAYNE WENT AGAINST THE OTHER.

THE ONE WE LIKE THE MOST AND MAKING SURE EVERYONE AND TRY TO MEET SOME PART OF THIS CRITERIA.

GO AHEAD AND SCROLL DOWN SO EVERYONE CAN LOOK AT IT.

>> SO AK, I ASSUME THIS HAS BEEN WORKED ON AND A LOT OF HARD WORK WENT INTO THIS BUT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE NOW?

>> THESE NOW, THESE ARE OUR DRIVING FORCES WE USE NOW AS WE GO FORWARD LOOKING AT OUR NOMINEES.

CHANGES HERE I DON'T THINK THERE IS MUCH TO BE DONE AS FAR AS CHANGES AGAIN JUST A GUIDING LIGHT FORCE TO HELP US GET THROUGH THE PROCESS OF SELECTING.

AS YOU GO THROUGH ALL THE NOMINATIONS AND PULL OUT AND MAKING SURE THEY FIT THE CRITERIA WE HAVE HERE.

AGAIN, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR TO TRY TO CHANGE BUT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE AWARE AND USING THIS AS WHAT WE DO AS A GUIDE.

YOU KNOW, PROCESS.

>> OKAY, THIS IS WHAT EVERYONE HAS ALREADY AGREED TO, RIGHT? BUCKS THAT'S CORRECT.

THIS HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

>> ANY QUESTIONS I HAVE GOT I SHOULD SAVE THESE AND MAYBE TALK TO ABOUT THEM LATER OR WHAT?

>> QUESTIONS, GO AHEAD.

>> I KNOW I AM THE JOHNNY-COME-LATELY HERE BUT I WANT TO CLARIFY SOME STUFF.

ON THE LAST PAGE THERE WERE TALKS ABOUT CRITERIA FOR SELECTION OF COACHES THERE IS NUMBER TWO SAYS THREE YEARS MUST LAPSE AFTER THE COMPLETION OF THE NOMINEES TENURE.

WAS THAT ALWAYS THREE YEARS OR WAS THAT FIVE YEARS BEFORE?

>> AS LONG AS I HAVE BEEN ON THE COMMITTEE IT HAS BEEN THREE YEARS.

IF SOMEONE BEFORE ME CAN HELP ME I THINK IT ALWAYS HAD BEEN THREE YEARS AS LONG AS I HAVE BEEN ON THE COMMITTEE.

>> THAT IS MY RECOLLECTION, TOO.

>> I WAS CURIOUS CURIOUS ABOUT D THE CRITERIA FOR A SELECTION OF THE TEAM IT IS SAYS THAT A NUMBER TWO IT SAYS THAT TENURES MUST LAPSE AFTER THE COMPLETION OF THE TEAMS SUCCESS.

I WAS WONDERING WHY THAT WAS SO MUCH AND THE COACHES WAS ONLY THREE.

>> I THINK I CAN ANSWER THAT.

MARK MIGHT BE ABLE TO GIVE IT BACK ON AS WELL.

I THINK THAT HAD TO DO THAT THE FACT THAT ON A TEAM YOU MIGHT HAVE FRESHMAN OR EVEN MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS DEPENDING ON HOW GOOD THEY ARE.

IN ORDER FOR THE TEAM, EVERYONE ON THE TEAM TO HAVE BEEN FIVE YEARS OUT YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE ADDITIONAL YEARS.

>> OKAY.

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE COACHES AND THE TEA CRITERIA YOU TALK ABOUT MORAL CHARACTER.

LOOKING AT D FOR THE TEAM CRITERIA.

WHAT IS MORAL CHARACTER? WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT FOR A TEAM? MORAL CHARACTER, GOOD CITIZENSHIP, COMMUNITY SERVICE AND THE TEAM WILL BE CONSIDERED.

WHAT YOU MEAN BY MORAL CHARACTER OF A TEAM?

>> I THINK THE SAME THING FALLS IN PLACE WITH ANY NOMINATION THERE IS THE MORAL CHARACTER OF IT BEING A GOOD CITIZEN.

I DON'T THINK WE HAVE YOU HAVE SOMEONE ON THE TEAM ON A GREAT TEAM THAT MAY HAVE

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DONE SOMETHING THAT IS UNLAWFUL AND SENT TO JAIL OR PRISON.

>> AK, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED WE HAD THAT QUESTION POP UP WITH WILLIE JACKSON AND ONE OF THE REASONS BACK THEN OUR HALL OF FAME WHEN THEY FIRST GOT STARTED HIS NAME CAME UP AND AT THE REASON WHY HE WASN'T DENIED WAS BECAUSE HE HAD IT NOT ONLY SERVED TIME IN PRISON BUT ALSO PASSED AWAY WHILE SERVING HIS TIME IN JAIL AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THAT'S WHY THEY ELIMINATED WILLIE JACKSON.

PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST GUARDS TO COME THROUGH BUT WHAT WAS SAID THEN.

>> SO DOES IT APPLY TO JUST WHILE YOU ARE AT TC WILLIAMS? DOES THIS APPLY IF YOU WENT TO COLLEGE, AFTER COLLEGE, HOW LONG DOES THAT MORAL CHARACTER THING FIT IN?

>> I WOULD SAY THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS YOU CAN'T PUT AN EXACT THING ON BECAUSE I THINK THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE CIRCUMSTANCES AND MANY THINGS.

BUT I DO THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS WE TRY NOT TO HONOR PEOPLE WHO PERHAPS WE WOULD NOT WANT TO HOLD UP AS EXAMPLES TO OUR STUDENTS.

SO, I THINK THAT IS SORT OF THE STARTING POINT OF IT.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THE MORAL CHARACTER OF THE TEAM.

I WASN'T ON THE COMMITTEE WHEN THE POINT ABOUT WILLIE JACKSON WAS MADE, MIKE.

WITH, WOULD THAT EXCLUDED THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP UNDEFEATED TEAM HE WAS A PART OF BECAUSE OF HIS INDISCRETIONS?

>> WELL, THAT WAS ONE OF MY PEEVES ABOUT IT ALSO, JIM, I DON'T THINK THE WHOLE TEAM SHOULD BE PENALIZED.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAWS HAVE CHANGED IF YOU SAW WILLIE WENT TO JAIL FOR MARIJUANA POSSESSION.

AND A DISTRIBUTION.

IT WAS UNDER ONE OUNCE OF WEED FROM WHAT I UNDERSTOOD.

NOW THE LAW HAS CHANGED SO NOW YOU COULD NOT DISQUALIFY HIM BECAUSE HE WENT TO JAIL FOR SMOKING WEED.

BUT, I DON'T THINK THAT, MY PERSONAL OPINION IT SHOULD NOT DISQUALIFY THE TEAM OR TEAM MEMBER FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE THE LAW HAS CHANGED.

BUT IF YOU COMMIT MURDER OR RAPE FORCE OF THE LIKE THAT THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT STORY.

BUT THAT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT AN ADDRESS IT AS WE SEE FIT.

>> I THINK WITH THE TEAM THOUGH IF YOU HAVE ONE ON THE TEAM YOU ARE INDEED PUNISHING THE REST OF THE TEAM.

I WONDER IF YOU DISQUALIFY SOMEONE LIKE THAT FROM GETTING ANY INDIVIDUAL RECOGNITION BUT I TEAM RECOGNITION.

LET'S USE THE 71 TITANS AS AN EXAMPLE.

IF WE WERE TO ELIMINATE THE 71 TITANS BECAUSE OF ONE ATHLETE THAT WOULD NOT BE RIGHT.

>> YOU ARE SAYING THAT THE MORALS OF EVERYTHING IT JUST DOESN'T EFFECT WHAT THEY DID IN HIGH SCHOOL BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY ARE BEING PENALIZED AFTER HIGH SCHOOL.

THEY CAME IN, THEY DID WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO, BUT AFTER HIGH SCHOOL THEY ARE BEING PENALIZED FOR WHAT HAPPENED IN THEIR LIVES.

>> AS AN ADULT, THAT'S MY POINT, TOO.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED IN SOMEONE'S ADULT LIFE AS OPPOSED TO WHEN THEY WERE IN HIGH SCHOOL.

I KNOW WHEN I WAS IN AT TC WILLIAMS THERE WAS A GUY THAT ACTUALLY ROBBED THE CAFETERIA LADY WHILE EVERYBODY WAS SITTING AT THE CAFETERIA.

HE WAS NOT AN ATHLETE BUT I AM JUST SAYING SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

>> I THINK THAT MAYBE WHEN THESE CIRCUMSTANCES ARISE THAT MAYBE THEY CAN BE ADDRESSED AT THAT TIME.

I DIDN'T MEAN TO STIR UP EVERYBODY BY ASKING THAT QUESTION.

>> I REALLY THINK THAT THE TEAM IS AN ADD-ON.

INDIVIDUALS ON THAT TEAM IF THEY DID THINGS THAT ARE ABOVE AND BEYOND FOR SOCIETY THAT IS SOMETHING TO ADD TO IT I DON'T THINK IT'S A WAY OF NITPICKING EVERY MEMBER

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OF THE TEAM AND LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT IS WRONG.

YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE CONTRIBUTORS THAT CONTRIBUTE AS DOCTORS AND LAWYERS AND THINGS AND THAT IS JUST AN ADD-ON AS OPPOSED TO A DISQUALIFIER.

I THINK IT'S MORE APPLICABLE TO THE INDIVIDUALS ON THE TEAM, ANYWAY.

>> ALL RIGHT, OKAY.

>> THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE AS WE GET TO THOSE POINTS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT VERY CLOSELY.

I ALSO AGREE THAT WE SHOULD NOT ILLUMINATE A TEAM BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE.

I TEAM DOES NOT GO BEYOND HIGH SCHOOL.

THE INDIVIDUAL MAY GO THE TEAM AND RATE THERE.

THEIR CONFERENCE ENDS RIGHT THERE AT THAT TIME.

THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GO TO COLLEGE TO PLAY AS A TEAM.

THE INDIVIDUAL, YES, BUT NOT AS A TEA.

ANYONE ELSE FOR COMMENTS?

>> ONE MORE COMMON AND THAT IS THAT DESPITE WHAT PEOPLE HAVE DONE IN THEIR LIVES AND EVEN THOUGH THE ONE ATHLETE JUST USED MARIJUANA SOMETIMES THEY HAVE CHANGED AND YOU JUST HAVE TO SOMETIMES GETTING THIS MAYBE CHANGE THEIR LIVES SO MAYBE THINK ABOUT THAT LIKE YOU SAID IT'S AN INDIVIDUAL THING.

ANYWAY, JUST MAKING THAT COMMENT.

>> IT'S CALLED GRACE, RIGHT?

>> EXACTLY.

>> HERE IS THE CRITERIA WE WILL LOOK AT AS WE GO THROUGH AS WE START REVIEWING THE NOMINATIONS AND WE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK THROUGH AND MAKE SURE THOSE THINGS ARE MET IN EACH CATEGORY WE ARE LOOKING AT.

>> CAN I ADDRESS ONE THING I NOTICED BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO COME UP THIS YEAR.

IF ANY MEMBER OR RELATIVE OF THE SELECTION COMMITTEE IS NOMINATED FOR THE TRAN 12 HALL OF FAME MEMBER MUST RECUSE HIMSELF OF ANY AND ALL DISCUSSIONS REGARDING THAT YEARS SELECTION OF INDUCTEES.

THIS HAS COME UP IN THE PAST.

I KNOW WE HAVE MR. PISCIOTTA HERE WHO HAS BEEN IN OUR NOMINATION POOL.

>> MIKE, YOUR SON AND DAUGHTER WHEN THEY WERE SELECTED.

>> I DID NOT VOTE.

>> I ABSTAINED, I DID NOT VOTE FOR EITHER ONE.

>> YOU WERE ABLE TO VOTE IN OTHER CATEGORIES?

>> YES, JUST NOT FOR THEM.

>> CAN WE MAKE THIS A LITTLE MORE DETAILED BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE BROKEN, CAN WE SAY THAT THEY CAN'T VOTE IN THAT CATEGORY?

>> THAT IS TAKING A LOT OF AWAY FROM SOMEONE SAY THEY CANNOT VOTE IN THAT CATEGORY.

WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AS IT PERTAINS IF YOU HAD A COUSIN OR A RELATIVE THAT IS THERE.

I THINK IF THE PERSON EXCUSES THEMSELVES BECAUSE IT SAYS A DISCUSSION, IF YOU EXCUSE YOURSELF FROM THE DISCUSSION AND THE VOTING THAT YOU ARE OUT OF THE PICTURE.

>> WELL, THERE ARE OTHER CATEGORIES.

IT WOULD JUST BE THE ONE CATEGORY YOU ARE EXCLUDED FROM IT.

>> BUT THE WHOLE PACKAGE THAT PERSON COULD STILL, HOW YOU ELIMINATE THEM FROM THAT.

>> I DON'T KNOW.

IT'S KIND OF A SQUEAKY WHEEL.

IT'S NOT AN EASY.

BUT IT WAS GOING TO COME UP SO I AM BRINGING IT UP SO WE CAN THINK ABOUT IT NOW RATHER THAN AS WE ARE VOTING.

>> MAYBE AS AN IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER I WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT OR YOU CAN ALSO DO A RELATIVE OF THE FAMILY BUT TO EXCLUDE A PERSON FROM A VOTING ALTOGETHER IN A CATEGORY THERE MIGHT BE OTHER MALES OR FEMALES THAT RIGHT THERE CLOSE TO THE VOTING I DON'T THINK COMMITTEE SHOULD PENALIZE THEM FOR HAVING AN EXCEPTIONAL ATHLETE AND THE FAMILY.

BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE DOING.

>> WHY DON'T WE DO THIS.

WHY DON'T WE PUT THIS AS A NEW BUSINESS IN THE FEBRUARY MEETING TO GIVE EVERYONE A CHANCE TO LOOK INTO IT AND THEN COME BACK.

AT THAT MEETING IT WILL BE PART OF THE AGENDA WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT MORE.

EVERYONE WILL HAVE A LITTLE MORE TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT, OKAY.

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ESPECIALLY THAT PART WHICH TO VOTE A MEMBER IN A COMMITTEE WHAT THE RESTRICTION WE ARE GOING TO HAVE IF THEY HAVE SOMEONE IN THAT CATEGORY, A FAMILY MEMBER OR SOMEONE THEY NOMINATED.

AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO BE TRICKY BECAUSE WHEN WE GET DOWN TO THE FINAL CATEGORIES AND WE DO OUR FINAL VOTES WE REALLY GOT TO THINK THIS PIECE OUT BECAUSE IT IS THE NUMBER GAME WITH EVERYONE.

WE RATE THEM FROM THE HIGHEST NUMBER TO THE LOWEST NUMBER.

>> IF I COULD BRING UP SOMETHING ELSE HERE.

AND AT THE CRITERIA FOR SELECTION OF A STUDENT ATHLETE NUMBER FOUR.

MY QUESTION IS AND I THINK THIS WAS ASKED BEFORE IN THE LAST MEETING.

ART WEEK VOTING FOR THE COMPLIMENTS OF THE TC WILLIAMS HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATE OR ARE WE CONTINUING ON WITH THEIR COMPLIMENTS AS THEY THEN GO INTO COLLEGE, THEN TO PRO, OR INTO THE COMMUNITY? YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M ASKING? I AM ASKING ARE WE JUST LOOKING AT THEIR A COMPLIMENTS AT TC WILLIAMS? OR ARE WE THEN GOING TO THEIR POST HIGH SCHOOL AS THEY GO TO COLLEGE?

>> THESE ARE LIFELONG ACHIEVEMENTS.

>> IS THAT RIGHT, LIFELONG ACHIEVEMENTS?

>> YES.

>> OKAY.

>> IT WAS ALL CONSIDERED, RIGHT?

>> ALL CONSIDERED.

>> EVERYTHING.

SO IT MIGHT BE CLOSE WHAT THEY DID IN HIGH SCHOOL BUT THEN SOMEONE ELSE MIGHT SEPARATE THEMSELVES WHAT THEY DID LATER ON AND THEY MIGHT GET THE NOD OVER THE OTHER PERSON BECAUSE OF THAT.

>> WE HAVE AND INDUCTING WHO WAS AVERAGE HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETE WHO BECAME AN OUTSTANDING TRACK COACH IN A COLLEGE.

THE COMMITTEE, PRIOR TO ME BEING ON IT, ALWAYS LOOKED AT THINGS OUTSIDE OF THE HIGH SCHOOL ENVIRONMENT.

BUT THE DRIVING FORCE FIRST IS THE HIGH SCHOOL PIECE AND THEN YOU GO FROM THERE.

WHATEVER ADDITIONAL COMPLIMENTS THAT PERSON HAS ACHIEVED.

>> WAYNE WAS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL MEMBERS THAT WAS SOMETHING WE PUT IN TO SAY THAT NOT ONLY WHAT THEY DID IN HIGH SCHOOL THAT WAS A PLUS BUT WHATEVER THEY ACCOMPLISHED OUTSIDE OF HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE AND IN THEIR PERSONAL LIFE, ALSO.

IT IS A PLUS TO A PERSON BEING NOMINATED.

>> THAT IS CORRECT, MIKE.

THAT IS CORRECT.

>> IN THE SAME CATEGORY AND SAME AREA THE CRITERIA FOR SELECTION OF STUDENT ATHLETE IT SAYS THAT ELIGIBLE NOMINEES MUST HAVE ACCOMPLISHED AT LEAST TWO OF THE FOLLOWING.

AND THEN THEY LIST THE FOLLOWINGS.

GOING INTO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AND ATHLETE WHERE IT SAYS MUST HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE YEARS OR MULTIPLE SPORTS AND ALL-CONFERENCE SELECTION.

WAS A STATE CHAMPIONSHIP OR A PLACE WINNER.

MULTIPLE VARSITY LETTER WINNERS.

WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS THAT EVEN THOUGH THIS PERSON CAME AND MAYBE ONLY GOT ONE VARSITY LETTER IN A SPORT OR HE WAS A TRACK MAN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

HE WENT ON AND THEN BECAME A COACH.

THAT HE IS STILL ELIGIBLE, IS THAT RIGHT? HE IS STILL ELIGIBLE EVEN THOUGH HE DID NOT MEET THE HIGH SCHOOL REQUIREMENTS AS YOU HAVE LISTED HERE.

HE WASN'T A STATE CHAMPION HE DID NOT PLACE AS A WINNER IN A SPORT, HE MAYBE ONLY GOT ONE AT LETTER.

MAYBE HE WAS JUST A FOOTBALL PLAYER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AM I READING THAT RIGHT? WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IF WE TAKE THE TOTAL PERSON AFTER HE LEFT TC WILLIAMS HE THEN BECAME ACCOMPLISHED AND AS YOU GAVE THE EXAMPLE, AS A COACH, OR MAYBE HE DISCOVERED HIMSELF AND BECAME A LONG-DISTANCE RUNNER OR SOMETHING LIKE

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THAT AND TOOK ACCOLADES FOR THOSE THINGS.

>> YES, IN THE PAST THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN LOOKED AT AS PART OF THE PROCESS OF IT BEING NOMINATED AND VOTED ON.

AGAIN, SO MANY EXAMPLES.

AGAIN, I WAS NOT ON THE ORIGINAL COMMITTEE BUT AS THEY WENT ON THROUGH THE YEARS OF ADDING ONTO THIS PROCESS AND PROBABLY SOMEONE DIDN'T MEET ALL THE CRITERIA THAT WE SET LATER ON IN THAT FIRST PROCESS THAT THEY DID AND THEY DID A LARGE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS.

THE BAD THING, AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT IT WAS AND WHAT WE TRY TO DO FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW IS TRIED TO OPEN THAT UP AND NOT HOLD TO THE LETTER IN A LOT OF CASES TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE PERSON AND ALL THE NOMINATION INFORMATION THAT WE GATHERED.

>> I AM GLAD TO HEAR THAT.

I CAN THINK OF AN IMMEDIATE EXAMPLE.

I AM GLAD TO HEAR THAT EVERYONE IS WILLING TO TAKE IN THE TOTAL PICTURE OF THE PERSON.

I CAN THINK OF A PERSON WHO WAS AN OUTSTANDING ATHLETE, DIDN'T GET ALL REGIONAL HONORS OR WASN'T AN ALL MAN BUT THEN WENT ON AND PLAYED SEMI PRO AND PRO AND THAT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL IN COLLEGE HE WAS RECOGNIZED FOR HIS SKILLS THERE.

I AM JUST GLAD TO HEAR THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO TAKE IN THE WHOLE PICTURE OF A PERSON.

>> YOU ARE PART OF THIS PROCESS NOW SO IT IS WHAT WE DECIDE TO LOOK AT.

AS YOU RECALL AT THE LAST MEETING WHAT I SAID ALSO IS THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN SPORTS THAT YOU WANT TO BE INCLUSIVE AND SPREAD THIS OUT BUT SOME SPORTS WHERE THE STUDENT ATHLETE WAS A GREAT ATHLETE AT TC WILLIAMS AND EARNED A VARSITY LETTER BUT DID NOT MAKE ALL DISTRICT BUT AND OUTSTANDING ATHLETE.

WE ALSO LOOKED AT THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE ALL-CONFERENCE AND COMPARED THEM TO THE SPORT THEY ARE IN AND IN THE REGION AND IN THE STATE.

WE DIDN'T HAVE TOO MANY ALLSTATE GOLFERS THAT I CAN COME UP WITH OR I AM TRYING TO THINK, TENNIS.

I KNOW SWIMMING WE HAVE.

WE WANT TO BE INCLUSIVE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE BUT AGAIN, THESE ARE OUR GUIDES.

THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO LOOK AT AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.

LIKE ALWAYS, WHEN WE GO BACK AND START THE SUMMER OFF LOOKING AT WHATEVER CHANGES WE NEED TO MAKE GOING FORWARD.

WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS GET INTO A MIDDLE OF A PROCESS AND START CHANGING THINGS BUT REVIEWED THE BYLAWS AT THE END OF EACH SELECTION WE CAN GO BACK AND GO TO THE DOCUMENT AND SAY THIS WORKS, THIS DID NOT WORK, THESE ARE CHANGES WE NEED TO MAKE.

AGAIN, THIS IS A WORKING DOCUMENT IN A LOT OF WAYS.

IT'S A STARTING POINT FOR ALL OF US.

>> THIS WILL BE WHERE THOSE RATING SHEETS WILL HELP BECAUSE YOU WILL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT ATHLETES AND SAY, THIS GUY HAS 20 POINTS AND THIS GUY HAS SEVEN AND IT MAKES SOME PEOPLE FLOAT TO THE TOP AND IT MIGHT EXCLUDE SOMEONE WHO YOU THINK IS GREAT UNTIL YOU EVALUATE THEM AGAINST THE OTHERS.

>> THAT IS SO TRUE.

THAT HAS HAPPENED.

I WILL PRESENT THAT FLOWCHART WHEN WE MEET FACE-TO-FACE SO WE CAN LOOK AT IT AND GET EVERYONE'S INPUT ON HOW WE WANT TO MAKE THE PROCESS GOING FORWARD.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO AGAIN KEEP US IN CHECK TO MAKE SURE TO MAKE THE PROCESS SO WERE NOT GOING BACK AND LOOKING AT EVERY LINE IN THE CRITERIA THERE.

ALL RIGHT? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS DOCUMENT? AGAIN, CONTINUED LOOKING AT THAT IN A STUDY THAT AND NEXT MONTH WE WILL COME BACK IN TOGETHER AND WE WILL LOOK AT THE VOTING PROCESS.

[VI.1. February 7th meeting will be IN-PERSON at ACHS Library]

ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO ON TO NEW BUSINESS.

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THERE WERE FEET FEBRUARY 7 MEETING WILL BE IN PERSON AS OF RIGHT NOW.

WE WILL BE IN PERSON AT AN ALEXANDRIA CITY HIGH SCHOOL MEDIA CENTER.

>> WE WILL WATCH AND SEE WHAT THE CITY DOES I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE HAD A REAL MEETING YET BUT ONCE THEY DO IT WE WILL SEE IF THEY DO ANYTHING TO EXTEND THEIR LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY WHICH WOULD ALLOW US TO CONTINUE TO MEET VIRTUALLY.

>> WE WILL KEEP YOU ABREAST OF WHAT CHANGES.

RIGHT NOW, THAT IS THE PLAN.

IN PERSON LIBRARY BUT IN ORDER TO GET BUSINESS DONE.

[VI.2. Should we do many more inductees in the 2022 AHOF Class?]

WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT IN THE NEW BUSINESS WE LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO DO A LARGE NUMBER IN THIS CLASS TO TRY TO CATCH UP WITH SO MANY APPLICATIONS WE HAVE IN PLACE.

ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT?

>> THIS IS ROBERTA.

I REALLY WOULDN'T GO FOR A LARGE GROUP.

I THINK IT TAKES AWAY THE ESSENCE AND THE EXCITEMENT FOR THE INDIVIDUAL AND FOR THEM TO TALK AND JUST ENJOY THAT MOMENT.

I THINK WHEN THERE IS A LOT, SO MANY PEOPLE, IT TAKES AWAY THE ESSENCE OF THE CELEBRATION OF IT.

THAT IS JUST MY TAKE ON IT.

>> ANYONE ELSE?

>> THAT IS A GOOD POINT.

>> THAT IS MY TAKE ON IT.

WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO IS LARGE IN NUMBERS.

>> I GO BACK TO THE FIRST CLASS, HOW MANY WERE IN THAT CLASS, MARK?

>> 20.

>> THE REASON JIM CLARK BROUGHT IT UP ALSO THERE ARE SO MANY IN THEIR AND BATTLING AGAINST EACH OTHER AND IN ORDER TO FLUSH THEM OUT AND TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THESE THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN THERE IN A LONG TIME AND HIGHLY QUALIFIED TO BE INDUCTED THEY ARE LOOKING AT WHETHER OR NOT WE JUST DO THIS TO TRY TO CATCH UP WITH SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVEN'T BEEN IN THEIR WITH A LOWER NUMBER BUT THERE QUALIFIED TO BE IN THERE.

>> THE 20 WAS BEFORE WE WERE DOING TEAMS. IF WE HAD A LARGE NUMBER THAT INCLUDED SEVERAL TEAMS WE MIGHT HAVE A PRETTY, A REALLY BIG CEREMONY.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL, I UNDERSTAND DOING MORE INDIVIDUALS BUT THEN IF WE DO MORE INDIVIDUALS WE NEED TO CUT OUT OR MAYBE LIMIT THE NUMBER OF TEAMS. BECAUSE WE HAD THREE TEAMS THIS PAST YEAR I KNOW WE DID TWO YEARS BUT IT MAKES FOR PRETTY COMPLICATED CEREMONY.

>> MY THOUGHTS AND WHAT JIM SAID AT THE LAST MEETING IS THE TEAMS, CONTRIBUTORS AND COACHES HAD THE SMALLEST NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS WE HAVE IT.

THE BIGGEST NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS ARE IN THE INDIVIDUAL.

SO I DON'T THINK WE DO ANY ADDITIONS TO THE TEAMS WORK IN JUPITER'S.

BUT AGAIN, AS I LOOKED THROUGH MY NOTEBOOK THERE IS ABOUT 20 KIDS I COULD TALK MY HEAD AND NECK THE WHOLE CRITERIA AND THEY ARE NOT IN THERE.

I JUST SHOOK MY HEAD, I AM JUST ONE VOTE, HOW THAT PERSON MISSED OUT AND HOW THAT PERSON GOT IN.

IN MULTIPLE SPORTS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.

I COUNTED ABOUT 10 KIDS IN A CREW WHO ACTUALLY COMPETED IN THE OLYMPICS AND SO FORTH AND THEY ARE NOT IN THERE.

BECAUSE THEY GET VOTED OUT BECAUSE OF THE SPORTS.

THAT IS A THOUGHT THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT AND NOT THE CASE TO DO IT THIS YEAR THAT IS FINE BUT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT BEFORE WE COME UP WITH OUR NOMINATIONS GOING FORWARD.

>> AK, WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT IF WE DON'T DO IT THIS YEAR AT SOME GIVEN POINT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO IT.

IF WE BYPASS THIS YEAR WE NEED TO TAKE IT UP ON NEXT YEAR BECAUSE IT'S A REQUIREMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

THERE ARE TOO MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE LIKE YOU SAID THAT DESERVE TO GET IN, QUALIFIED TO GET IN, IT'S THEY GET MISSED BY ONE VOTE OR TO VOTE SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE.

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MY VOTE LET'S DO IT IF IT'S NOT THIS YEAR, NEXT YEAR, WE NEED TO DO IT.

>> I WONDER IF WE TALKED ABOUT LIKE WE DIDN'T ALWAYS HAVE TO DO A CONTRIBUTOR, WE DIDN'T ALWAYS HAVE TO DO A COACH.

MAYBE WE SHOULD CONSIDER THAT ABOUT TEAMS, AS WELL.

BECAUSE NOT THAT WE CAN'T DO TEAMS BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE NOTEBOOK THERE IS NOT NEARLY THE TEAMS AS THERE ARE ATHLETES.

>> THAT GOES BACK TO WHAT I WAS SAYING, WE CAN LEAVE IT TEAMS AND CONTRIBUTOR'S ALONE.

THE BIGGEST NUMBER WE HAVE ARE THE INDIVIDUALS.

THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT.

ESPECIALLY THOSE THREE, SIX, FIVE.

THAT'S A LARGE NUMBER IN THERE.

>> I THINK THAT IS A GOOD POINT.

IF YOU ELIMINATED THE TEAMS FOR ONE YEAR AND THE CONTRIBUTOR'S FOR ONE YEAR AND THEN WENT WITH THE NUMBERS WITH THE PRE-AND POST ATHLETES I THINK THE NUMBERS WOULD BE COMPARABLE TO WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

>> THAT'S NOT WHAT HE IS SAYING.

HE STATED LEAVE THE TEAMS, CONSERVATORS AND COACHES ALONE BUT INCREASE THE NUMBER OF ATHLETES BECAUSE THEY ARE SO PLENTIFUL.

>> IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID, AK?

>> JUST FOR ONE YEAR AND MIGHT NOT BE 22 OR 23 BUT AS YOU GO THROUGH THE APPLICATIONS WHEN SUSAN GETS A WHOLE BUNCH YOU WILL GO THROUGH IT AND DO WHAT I DO.

AND SAY WOW I WOULD MISS OUT ON THIS ONE AND THAT WENT INTO THIS ONE AND THAT ONE.

HONESTLY, I COULD NOMINATE 20 PEOPLE RIGHT NOW WHO IS NOT EVEN IN THE BOOK.

>> THAT IS THE PROBLEM, TOO.

THE STACK OF APPLICATIONS HERE I AM SURE THEY ARE ALL REALLY GREAT PEOPLE BUT THERE IS ALMOST NOTHING, NO INFORMATION IN HERE.

GETTING INFORMATION ABOUT PEOPLE IN ORDER TO VOTE ON THEM IS AN ISSUE.

>> THERE ARE PEOPLE INFORMATION IN THE BOOKS RIGHT NOW, THAT IS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.

THAT IS WHAT I SEE, THE ONES THAT QUALIFY.

>> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT A NUMBER? DO YOU HAVE A NUMBER IN MIND?

>> THAT IS SOMETHING THE GROUP HAS TO DECIDE.

I DON'T WANT TO COME UP WITH A NUMBER BUT JUST THE THOUGHT PROCESS RIGHT NOW IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.

IF THERE IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO IT AGAIN I WOULD ASK THAT MAYBE WE IF, I GUESS I WILL GET A MOTION TO TABLE IT TILL THE FACE-TO-FACE MEETING SO WE CAN STUDY A LITTLE MORE.

>> AK, CAN ASK A QUESTION?

>> SURE.

>> IS THIS CONVERSATION COMING UP BECAUSE OF PRESSURE FROM THE COMMUNITY OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT COMMITTEE FEELS THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO MAKE THAT SO SO MANY PEOPLE NOT GETTING VOTED IN.

I WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT WE STARTED THIS IN 2013 TWO 2015 THE SCHOOL BOARD VOTED THIS AND WE ARE STILL EARLY IN THIS AND LEARNED HOW TO DO THINGS AND DO THEM THE RIGHT WAY.

IS IT NECESSARY TO DO IT AT THIS TIME? MAYBE IN THE FUTURE BUT WE JUST REALLY ARE GETTING OUR FOOTING, THIS COMMITTEE.

INITIALLY, WE HAD TO DO THAT AT THE BEGINNING BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE QUALITY NOT NECESSARILY QUANTITY.

QUALITY IS VERY IMPORTANT WHEN YOU HAVE A COMMITTEE LIKE THIS.

I AM THINKING THIS IMPORTANT FOR OUR SCHOOL.

I JUST WANT TO QUESTION IS A COMING FROM A PRESSURE FROM OUTSIDE OF THIS COMMITTEE?

>> NO, THIS IS FROM OUR REVIEWS OF ALL THE CURRENT CANDIDATES WE HAVE LIKE AK SAID IN THE BOOK.

I DON'T SEE IT AS PRESSURE OR OUTSIDE INFLUENCE I SEE IT FROM THE POINT ALL THE WORK WE HAVE DONE SO FAR.

WE KNOW THOSE INDIVIDUALS EXIST.

AND I DON'T SEE IT AS AN OUTSIDE THING I THINK IT'S INTERNAL TO US AS A COMMITTEE.

>> I THINK THE POINT ON THE NUMBER IT COULD BE DECIDED AT ANOTHER TIME.

I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT ABOUT DOING IT THIS YEAR AS OPPOSED TO IN TWO YEARS IF THAT'S AMENABLE TO EVERYONE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT KIND OF MINDSET AND FOCUS AND YOUR POINT IS EXACTLY RIGHT.

WE ARE ALL LOOKING FOR QUALITY BUT QUALITY EXISTS IN GREATER NUMBERS BECAUSE

[00:50:01]

OF OUR RESEARCH AND THE NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS.

NUMBER OF APPLICANTS THAT HAVE COME IN.

I WOULD VOTE THAT WE DO IT FOR THIS CLASS.

>> TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT JIM IS INSANE BECAUSE WE STARTED SO LATE WE ARE ALREADY BEHIND SO REALLY WHAT WERE DOING RIGHT NOW IS LIKE THE TRAFFIC JAM I-95 YESTERDAY.

SO MANY PEOPLE COMING THROUGH AT ONE TIME THAT IT BACKED UP.

THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AS A SELECTION COMMITTEE.

EVERYONE IS CORRECT WE HAVE SO MANY GREAT ATHLETES THAT HAVE ALREADY COME THROUGH AND THEN WE HAVE MORE COMING BEHIND THEM.

IF WE DON'T BRING A LARGE NUMBER IN SOON LATER IT'S GOING TO BE MORE OF A PROBLEM THAN IT IS NOW.

I AM GOING TO SAY WE HAVE AT LEAST 80 PEOPLE THAT QUALIFY TO BE IN RIGHT NOW.

>> I WANTED TAKE A POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE TO SAY THAT WAS THE BEST ANALOGY YOU HAVE EVER PUT TOGETHER.

>> THERE WAS A LOW BAR.

>> I WAS ON 95 FOR FIVE HOURS.

>> THAT WAS NOT LONG COMPARED TO SUMMIT.

>> NO COMPLAINTS.

>> I HAVE HEARD NUMBERS FROM 20 TO 80 AND I'M LOOKING AT THE SHEET HERE IS IS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF INDUCTEES EACH YEAR IT SHOULD BE NO MORE THAN 10, IS THAT WERE GIVEN HOLDING TO?

>> THAT IS SOMETHING WE ESTABLISHED LAST YEAR AND PRETTY MUCH HELD TO AS THE FIRST GO AROUND TO TRY TO PUT IT ALL TOGETHER.

THE QUESTION IS NOW IS WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO INCREASE THAT FOR ONE YEAR OR GO BEYOND THAT TO WHAT MIKE SAID LIKE MIKE SAID THERE IS A TRAFFIC JAM IT.

IT MAY NOT BE AS TO MAKE THAT DECISION WHAT TO DO WITH IT BUT IT'S GOING TO GET BIGGER.

>> I AGREE WITH MS. GREEN AND ROBERTA THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY DILUTE THE QUALITY AND I AM NOT SURE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT NUMBERS, AK, WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE CREW TEAM, A BOAT HAS X AMOUNT OF ATHLETES ON THE BOAT.

>> I AM TALKING ABOUT INDIVIDUALS.

AS YOU GET YOUR DOCUMENTS YOU SEE THERE ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE ALTERNET ALLSTATE ALL REGIONAL ALL U.S.

GROWING INDIVIDUAL.

>> AND WE HAVE A MORE COMING.

>> THAT IS EXACTLY RIGHT.

I AM A PREACHING TO THE CHOIR HERE.

>> FOR HISTORY'S SAKE ORIGINALLY IT WAS VERY LOW IT WAS LIKE FIVE.

WE HAVE BEEN PUSHING IT UP A LITTLE BIT EACH TIME BECAUSE AFTER THE 20 AND WHEN WE DID HAVE THE 20 WE DO NOT HAVE 20 ATHLETES HERE.

I THINK THAT THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE, TOO.

LIKE 20 TO NOMINATE AND THEN HAVING IT MIGHT NOT BE AS GOOD AS 15.

SOMETIMES WE START DOING THE VOTING YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A DEFINITE LINE BETWEEN THE NUMBERS LIKE YOU START VOTING AND THEN YOU START TOTALING THE NUMBERS AND THESE PEOPLE HERE ARE IN THE HUNDREDS AND HERE IS 80 AND THEN SUDDENLY YOU GO TO LIKE 30 OR 40.

AS YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A BREAK.

MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT IT AFTER WE HAVE DONE THE VOTING BEFORE WE START LIMITING PEOPLE OR SAYING THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WE CAN LOOK AT IT AND SAY OKAY, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WORD IS, LIKE HERE IS A CLEAR LINE.

AND WE CAN EVALUATE ATTEND.

THIS IS ONLY THREE MORE PEOPLE.

AND WE CAN ADD THEM.

BECAUSE I KNOW LAST YEAR WHEN WE HAD RODNEY ON THEIR HE WAS UNDER THE LINE THAT WE CHOSE OF X NUMBER OF PEOPLE BUT HE WAS ONLY ONE OR TWO POINTS AWAY FROM THE PERSON ABOVE HIM.

DEPENDING HOW FAR YOU WENT DOWN THAT LIST YOU COULD FIND THE BOTTOM OF THE EXCELLENT AND DECIDE HOW MANY OF THOSE YOU CAN HANDLE.

>> I AM HEARING YOU SAY IS A PUT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR WE CAN TABLE THIS UNTIL FEBRUARY TO FLESH THIS OUT MORE?

>> YES.

>> CAN I GET A MOTION, PLEASE?

>> I HAVE TO LOG OFF IN FIVE MINUTES SHARP BUT UPWARD MOTION OUT THERE.

I MOVED WE TABLE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT EXPANDING THE NOMINEES UNTIL

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FEBRUARY'S MEETING.

>> I SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION TO EXPAND THE CONVERSATION TO INCREASE THE NUMBER FOUR 22 CLASS FOR INDIVIDUAL UNTIL FEBRUARY.

ALL IN FAVOR?

>> AYE.

>> ALL OPPOSED? OKAY, WE WILL TABLE THAT UNTIL FEBRUARY AND WE WILL HAVE A LENGTHY DISCUSSION AGAIN.

COME WITH NEW IDEAS.

AS WE CLOSE HERE.

[VI.3. Review and update applications]

SUSAN, APPLICATIONS THEY WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THEM WHEN WE MEET IN FEBRUARY?

>> YES, I HAVE THEM AND I HAVE THEM ON ONE SIDE OF MY DESK BECAUSE I HAVE NOT BEEN IN YOUR TO MAKE COPIES OR SCAN THEM YET.

>> CAN I ASK SUSAN SOMETHING? SUSAN, HAVE YOU GOT ANYTHING FROM THE HAMMOND PEOPLE? HAVE ANY HAMMOND PEOPLE RESPONDED?

>> ACTUALLY, I HAVE NOT GONE TO LOOK.

>> I GOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK SO I WAS WONDERING IF THEY HAD INPUT.

>> MAYBE REACH OUT TO THEM IF YOU KNOW WHO THEY ARE TO SEE IF THEY HAVE APPLIED AND WE WILL ENCOURAGE THEM TO APPLY.

>> THAT WILL TAKE CARE OF THE NEXT ONE LOOKING AT THAT AND SEEN WHAT APPLICATION WE HAVE.

SO CONTINUE SOLICITING MORE PEOPLE THE DEADLINE IS JANUARY 31 SO MAKE SURE WE GET THAT IN.

[VIII. Announcements by Members]

ANY INFORMATION FROM THE GROUP ANYONE HAVE SOMETHING THEY WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH THE GROUP?

>> THIS IS BOB TROUT, I AM IN CHARGE OF THE TEAM THING.

ARE WE STILL DOING IS IT THREE EMANATIONS TO THAT?

>> YEAH, WE WILL FOLLOW THE SAME PROCESS WE HAD LAST YEAR.

>> IF THE PEOPLE ON MY SUBCOMMITTEE, THE TEAM MEMBERS JUST BECAUSE I'M NOT THERE IF YOU COULD JUST EMAIL ME YOUR THREE CHOICES.

>> YEAH, WE HAVE NOT STARTED THAT PROCESS.

>> WE HAVEN'T? OKAY, SORRY.

>> ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING FOR THE GROUP?

>> I WANT TO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO RATE THEIR ATHLETES THEY ARE CONSIDERING BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS WHERE WE ARE RUNNING INTO A LITTLE TROUBLE WHEN WE ARE NOT CLEARLY CHOOSING BY OUR CRITERIA.

>> YEAH, EXACTLY.

>> WHEN YOU BRING UP YOUR NOMINATIONS FROM YOUR GROUP YOU CAN SAY THIS TEAM GOT 150 POINTS BECAUSE THEY HAD ALL THESE GREAT THINGS AND WE LIKE THIS ONE BUT THEY ONLY GOT 35.

>> ALL RIGHT SO, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT AND ASK FOR SOMEONE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.

>> I SECOND.

>> ALL RIGHT, EVERYONE STAY SAFE AND WE WILL SEE YOU IN A FEBRUARY WE HOPE FACE-TO-FACE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.