ATHLETIC HALL OF FAME MEETING FOR MAY THE 5TH, 2021 FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO [I. Call to Order] [III. Approval of Meeting Minutes] [00:00:09] ADOPT THE MEETING MINUTES FROM MONDAY. EVERYONE GET A COPY OF THOSE MINUTES. I ALSO JUST EMAILED OUT THE MINUTES THAT I TOOK IN MARCH THAT I KEEP TRYING TO GET ON THE AGENDA. AND I THEY ARE READY AND THEY ARE THERE AND I JUST EMAILED THEM OUT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO VOTE ON THEM OR WE CAN HOLD THEM TO THE NEXT MEETING EITHER WAY. WE'LL JUST HOLD THEM FOR THE NEXT MEETING. OK, THAT'S A DIFFERENT. DID EVERYONE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO REVIEW THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING ON MONDAY? YES, YES, YES, YES, OK, YES, YES, YES, CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES. I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES FROM MAY 3RD MEETING. CAN I GET A SECOND. SECOND, OK, THANK YOU ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ALL THE OPPOSED SAY NO. OK, HEARING NONE THOSE MINUTES HAVE BEEN APPROVED, APPROVAL OF THE MEETING, I'M SORRY, LET ME JUMP AHEAD REAL QUICK HERE, SUSAN. ARE THERE ANY. COMMUNICATION FROM. WE HAVE RECEIVED NO COMMUNICATIONS. OK. ALL RIGHT, LET ME BACK UP HERE QUICK. THE ADOPTION AGENDA FOR TONIGHT. [II. Adoption of Meeting Agenda] AGAIN, THE PURPOSE OF THE AGENDA TONIGHT IS TO ONE. FOR MY SCREENING COMMITTEE, WILL SUBMIT THEIR NAMES FOR FINALISTS FOR THE 2021 HALL OF FAME AND THEN WE'LL STILL HAVE TO TABLE THE DECISION ON THE CEREMONIES FOR THIS FALL, WE STILL DON'T HAVE A SCHEDULE YET, SO THEY WILL TABLE WITH THAT. OK, ON THE AGENDA, REVIEW OF NOMINEES FROM THE LIST I'D LIKE TO START WITH, FIRST OF ALL, [V.1. Assignment of committee members to screening committees.] THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL THE LEADERS WHO TOOK PART AND I KNOW THE TASK, TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY TO PULL THINGS TOGETHER AND NOT BEING ABLE TO SEE EACH OTHER FACE TO FACE. NO, DANIELLE WILL SHOW UP SHORTLY. SHE'S COMING FROM SOCCER PRACTICE. BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR PARTICIPATING. DEVALUED YOUR PARTICIPATION IS JUST CAN'T BE EMPHASIZED, ESPECIALLY AS WE GO INTO THE NEXT ROUND, WHICH IS ON THE 24TH OF MAY. WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT OF THE PROCEDURE THERE. BUT PLEASE, PLEASE TRY TO MEET THE DEADLINES, REVIEW THE CRITERIA, AND MOST OF ALL, MAKE THE PROPER SELECTION THAN DURING THE RAID. I ALSO SIT OUT TODAY, BUT OUR LISTENER HOUR AGO, A PROPOSAL THAT WAS PASSED BY THE COMMITTEE IN MAY OUTLINING A NUMBER OF NOMINEES THAT WE ADOPT EVERY YEAR, THE GUIDELINES AND SO FORTH, TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO READ THAT. AND LAST BUT THE LEAST IS THAT EVERYTHING WE SAY IN THIS DELIBERATION OF THE THIS IS CONFIDENTIAL. NOT TO BE DISCUSSED OUTSIDE THIS GROUP AGAIN. AND LOOKING FORWARD TO COMING UP WITH A OUTSTANDING CLASS AGAIN ON MARCH ON MAY 24. ALL RIGHT. SEND THAT AS SOON AS I CAN. YOU PULL UP FIRST WITH YOU. SO LET ME PULL UP. I FIND IT. IT'S HERE SOMEWHERE INTO A WHILE. SHE'S DOING THAT. LET ME JUST SAY, I THINK THAT THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN SO MUCH MORE SEAMLESS AND ORGANIZED THAN THAN THE ONE WE. SO KUDOS TO YOU FOR FOR DRIVING FORWARD. THANK YOU, GUYS. APPRECIATE THAT. APPRECIATE THAT. I SAY, WELL, I CAN'T FIND THAT FACT. IT'S OPEN. I JUST CAN'T SEE IT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. OH, YEAH. YEAH. HERE IT IS, TIDEY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. OK, SO LET ME JUST EXPLAIN WHAT I DID, BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE AS A COMMITTEE, AND I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO FILL IN SOME OF THE DETAILS, ALTHOUGH YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE TEAMS ABOUT WHAT SPORTS THEY PLAYED, WHAT GRADUATION YEAR. I'M GUESSING AT THESE. I KNOW JOE AND MIKE THOMAS SELLAR OR CELO, I'M SURE I. WE'RE T.C. AND I THINK DECHAMBEAU IS GW, BUT I'M NOT SURE, BUT LIKE THAT'S THE INFORMATION, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT CORRECT. I JUST KNOW SOME OF THESE BY HEART AND I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO FILL THEM IN SINCE I WAS GIVING SOME OF THESE LATER IN THE DAY. BUT NOW THIS BLACK COLUMN IS FOR THE TEAMS. IT PROBABLY DOESN'T REALLY MATTER AS MUCH. THERE'S ONLY THREE. [00:05:02] BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO SEE HOW THE TEAM CAME UP WITH THEIR TOP CHOICE OR NOT, OR IF YOU JUST WANT TO HEAR THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE. PEOPLE, THEY'RE NOT LISTED IN NUMERICAL ORDER, BUT THE NUMERICAL ORDER IS HERE. AND IT'S SCRABBLED BECAUSE, LIKE ONE MIGHT BE, I DON'T KNOW, SOMEBODY IN THE MIDDLE, BUT SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO SEE THOSE NUMBERS OR JUST TALK ABOUT THEM AND THEN SEE THE NUMBERS. YEAH. LET'S TALK ABOUT LET'S GO BACK UP TO YOUR FIRST ONE. YOU HAVE THE POST 1965 TEAM IS A MARKED. YOU HAD THAT GROUP, CORRECT? YES, CORRECT. OK. WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT STOOD OUT TO YOU? ANYTHING YOU WANT TO BRING FORTH TO THE GROUP HERE? NO, I MEAN, OTHER THAN IT BECAME CLEAR THAT NOT ONLY WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT MANY CHOICES SORT OF, BUT IT ALSO BECAME VERY CLEAR THAT THE NINETY THREE, FOUR BY ONE, THEY HAD THE HIGHEST I HAD WE LOOKED AT HOW EACH OF THE FOUR PEOPLE THEM AND THEY STUCK OUT AS THE NUMBER ONE OF THE THREE BY NOTHING. AND REALLY, OTHER THAN THAT, OK, THEY DIDN'T WANT ANYONE TO WANT TO SPEAK ON ANY COACH, ARE WE SUPPOSED TO VOTE AHEAD OF TIME ON THIS LIKE THIS FIRST TIME? I'M SEEING THIS NOW. NO, WE'RE NOT. WE'RE SORT OF THIS IS GOING TO RECEIVE THE VOTE ON. YES, THIS IS JUST THIS IS FROM THE SCREENING COMMITTEE THAT THESE GROUPS HAD WAS ASSIGNED TO THEIR BOARD NAMES. AND THESE ARE THE FINALISTS FOR THE FINAL VOTE ON MAY THE 24TH. OK, YOU'RE GOING TO GET A BALLOT LATER ON, WHICH IS GOING TO BE HAVE A DUE DATE AND SO FORTH. OK, THE FIGHT UP. WE DON'T WANT TO SPEAK ON THE POST 1965 TIENES. A THAT WASN'T ON TOP WAS POST NINETEEN SIXTY FIVE, THE TEXAS PRE 1964 OH, YOU'RE STILL ASKING ABOUT HEARING STUFF LIKE THAT. YEAH MY EARPHONES. YEAH. THAT THE THE CHAIR WILL SPEAK ON THIS BECAUSE I GUESS ALL THREE OF THOSE TEAMS I HAD SOME CONNECTION WITH THE GIRLS TEAM WAS THE FIRST STATE CHAMPIONSHIP GIRLS TRACK TEAM SPORT IN THE HISTORY OF THE SCHOOL. THE DISSIMILARLY WAS THE NINETEEN SEVENTY NINE. THEY HELD A NATIONAL RECORD FOR THE JUSTICE LEAGUE WAS WAS THEY RAN AT THE NAVAL ACADEMY AND THE BOYS, FOOLED BY THE BOYS FOUR BY ONE, WANT TO PIN RELAID CHAMPIONSHIP IN AMERICA. THEY BEAT THE JAMAICANS. THEY'RE GOING TO END UP BEING ONE OF THE THREE FYSSAS THREE PASSES TIME ON THE EAST COAST. THIS INCLUDED COLLEGES AND THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY. CAN I JUST GO BACK? AND IF ANYONE GOT ANY OTHER INFORMATION, ANYONE TO TO THE GROUP ON THESE JUST SELECTION, PLEASE DO SO. BUT AGAIN, MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL READ THE APPLICATION. ALL RIGHT. MAYBE QUESTION ME, COACH, WHEN I WAS NINETEEN SEVENTY NINE BOYS. THIS IS MAINLY JUST THE OLDER ONES PRESENTING THEM WITH THEIR AWARD BEFORE HE DIED AND NEXT WEEK. SO THAT IS KIND OF INTERESTING FOR THE SEVENTY NINE BOYS. THIS IS MY TEAM AND IN THE NINETEEN NINETY THREE THE DIPPIN RELAY TEAM. DID YOU EVER FIND OUT HOW MANY YEARS WAS IT WAS IT WAS IT WAS ACTUALLY LIKE EIGHT YEARS OR EIGHT YEARS. IT WAS EIGHT YEARS. SO, YOU KNOW, THE LAST AMERICAN TEAM TO WIN WAS EIGHT YEARS PRIOR TO THAT 1993. AGAIN, I THINK THE ONE MEETING I SHOWED THE VIDEO OF THAT RELAY RACE AT PENNSYLVANIA, OK, BUT YOU KNOW, THE DISCUSSION ON THIS POST 65, OK, CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS LIST WAS PHYLIS. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE. A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT WAS MISWROTE AND TRACY TRACY. YES, WE GOT A SECOND CIRCUIT, OK? ALL THE FAMOUS I, I, I, I WILL SAY NO. OK, ALL RIGHT. I'M SORRY. NO, NAY. ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE ON. SO THAT THAT'S WHAT WE GO THROUGH IT AGAIN. WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET IS THAT LIST. AND THEN AGAIN, YOU BE ABLE TO RANK THEM ACCORDINGLY WITH THE HIGHEST NUMBER GOING TO [00:10:01] YOUR NUMBER ONE CHOICE SECOND. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO TO THREE SIX 365 TEAMS. THAT WAS DANIELLE. SHE'S. SHE'S NOT WITH US YET, SO YOU WANT TO SKIP OVER THAT? YES, I AM HERE. I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. NO, NO, NO, IT'S OK. I WOULD ALSO JUST SAY JUST I MEAN, IF YOU JUST READ ALL THIS STUFF ABOUT IT, THERE'S LOTS OF IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WERE SHARED IN ALL OF THAT STUFF. THEY WERE VERY COMPREHENSIVE. I FEEL LIKE SOME OF THESE WERE SO AND SOME OF THEM WERE HAD MORE. I GUESS I DON'T WANT TO SAY WHICH ONE IT WAS THE CLEAR WINNER WAS THEN, BUT PERHAPS YOU GUYS ARE DOING THE SAME THING WHEN YOU READ IT. BUT THERE WAS KIND OF ONE CLEAR WINNER WITHIN THAT GROUP FOR THIS ONE. YEAH, I COULDN'T HEAR THAT. I'M SORRY. I COULDN'T HEAR THE. I COULD EVEN HEAR WHAT SHE SAID, WHAT DANIELLE SAID ABOUT THE TEAM. I WAS JUST SAYING THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF LITERATURE ABOUT IT, AND SO JUST UNTIL YOU READ ALL THE THINGS, OK, OK, NO, 14, 15, 16 WAS REALLY GOOD TEAM. IT WON AN EXCITING REGIONAL THERE. THEY WON THEY BEAT WAKEFIELD IN SUDDEN DEATH. AND I THINK THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I THINK I EVER SAW THAT HAPPEN AS AS A REGIONAL CHAMPION BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN IN OVERTIME AND THEN THEY THEY WON IT AND SUDDEN DEATH WENT DOWN. STATE LOVE. OK. WHAT ELSE? THE CLUB WAS LONG ENOUGH TO VIRGINIA, BRISTOL, BUT REALLY, REALLY GOOD TEAM THAT BEAT A LOT OF GOOD TEAMS THAT. OK. RIGHT, IN OTHER DISCUSSIONS ON THE THREE SIX FIVE TEAMS. HERE ARE NONE OF THE MOST IN PLACE TO APPROVE THE SIX TO FIVE LIST OF POLICY. MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE PRE SIXTY FIVE. JAMES, YOU WERE PERSUASIVE. I GET A SECOND, SO I GOT A SECOND SECOND LESSON IS THAT SOUNDS LIKE MICHAEL JOHNSON, SO I'M TRYING TO SAY, NO, THIS IS JUST ALEXANDER. AND IN A SENSE OF A SECOND, IT CANNOT. WE GOT A SECOND, BY THE WAY. WE GOT A MOTION PUT FORTH BY TRACY. ALL THE PAPERS SAY I BUY ALL THE POLLS AND I GET HERE ON THE 365 FINALIST HAS BEEN SELECTED. THESE ARE THE TEAMS THAT WILL GO WITH. OK, ALL RIGHT. NEXT, SUSAN, I DON'T KNOW IF JIM WEBB IS FAR FROM HERE. OK, GREAT. JEFF COACHES, ADMINISTRATOR CONTRIBUTOR'S. NOT NOT A WHOLE LOT TO SAY, OBVIOUSLY, FROM FROM THE LIST, YOU SEE THAT THE VOTING CERTAINLY FAVORED COACHES OVER ADMINISTRATORS AND CONTRIBUTORS, BUT THAT'S THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT WORKED OUT. IT WAS A SMALL UNIVERSE OF CANDIDATES TO CHOOSE FROM. BUT ALL THREE OF OUR COACHES FROM THE 70S AND 80S. THREE DIFFERENT SPORTS, BUT THAT'S THAT'S ABOUT THE BEST I CAN SAY, IT MUST HAVE SOME QUESTIONS LIKE YOU CAN PROBABLY KNOW THESE THREE BETTER THAN ANY OF US. IF YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS. BUT, YEAH, I MEAN, OF COURSE, THE ONE I KNOW MOST IS MY TIME IN THE SUMMER BECAUSE I TOOK OVER FOR HIM THAT HE WENT TO STANFORD UNIVERSITY AS ASSISTANT COACH. MIKE WON THE FIRST JUSTIN. WE WON THE FIRST STATE CHAMPIONSHIP, WHICH BOYS TRACK ENDORSED IN 79. HE COACHED MANZIE. RICKIE GARCIA, DWIGHT'S TEAM IS ALL THREE ARE IN THE ATHLETIC HALL OF FAME AND WENT OUT TO AFTER A GREAT TALENT. ALSO, ANOTHER ONE OF THE GREAT, CHARISMATIC, GREAT TALENT IS IN THE GROUP. ALSO, PACHO, THERE WAS A SOCCER COACH, A LONG TIME SOCCER COACH AT T.C. STARTED A GOOD IN INTERMEDIATE PROGRAM THROUGH THE PROCESS AS A HEAD COACH WAS SOCCER JUST STARTED OUT AS A CLUB. DECHAMBEAU, AGAIN, ICON AND CREW, WOMEN'S CREW, ALWAYS HAD A CHAMPIONSHIP BOAT OVER THE YEARS. THEY USED TO GO TO FLORIDA IN THE WINTER AND COME BACK JUST FOUR SEASONS TO START TO GET READY FOR SEASON. [00:15:01] LONG TIME. COACH AND ALEXANDER. NO, THE ONLY OTHER CORRECTION, SUSAN. I THINK DECHAMBEAU SHOULD GRADUATE FROM HIGH SCHOOL. HE COACHED CREW WOULD PROBABLY OUGHT TO BE TEACHING. GOT IT. GOT IT. NELSON, LIKE NELSON, LOVE BOBBY, YOUR MARKER THAT YOU SHOWED, IT WAS THE FATHER OF SOCCER, ESTABLISHED SOCCER AND ALSO HE WON TO JUST STICKING TO REGION, WHICH THEY DIDN'T HAVE A STATE TITLE UNTIL 1986, 1982. SO HE WON FOR TWO DISTRICTS AND TWO REGIONALS WITH EIGHT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE STATE CHAMPIONS BACK UNTIL UP UNTIL 1980. HE ACTUALLY COACH. THAT WAS IMPRESSIVE. WHAT WAS THAT, JIM? IF IT WAS THE KICKING COACH ON IT, ON THE 71 72 TEAM ALSO. OK, YOU KNOW, THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD FOR DEAN IS THAT FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW THE BOAT HOUSE IS NAMED AFTER HIM, WHICH IS PRETTY UNUSUAL FOR OUR STRUCTURE TO BE NAMED AFTER HIM. AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE MOST PRESTIGIOUS RACE EVERY YEAR IS THE RACE IN STURSBERG, AND THAT'S BEEN CALLED THE VARSITY EIGHT HAS BEEN CALLED THE DECHAMBEAU CUP, I BELIEVE, FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS. SO THAT'S SIGNIFICANT FOR HIM AS WELL. I DON'T THINK GIVEN WHAT MIKE MIKE CAME, THE UNIVERSITY OF TENNESSEE THEN CAME IN TO ALEXANDER BACK IN THE 70S. GARY WYATT MAY COST A LOT OF GREAT ATHLETES HERE AT T.C.. ALL RIGHT, COULD I GET A MOTION, PLEASE? I HOLD ON MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE NOMINEES NOMINATIONS FOR THE COACHES, OK? AND JUST A LITTLE PARLIAMENTARY THING FOR EVERYBODY. AND TRACY, JUST WHEN YOU SAY THAT, JUST SAY I MOVE AND THEN WHATEVER IT IS YOU WANT TO SAY INSTEAD OF I MAKE A MOTION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, YOU SAY I MOVE TO APPROVE OR WHATEVER YOUR STATEMENT IS GOING TO BE. THANK YOU, CAMILA. GOT US GOT A SECOND IN A DISCUSSION. HERE ARE ON THE TABLE, THE. COACHES, ADMINISTRATION CONTRIBUTOR. SO I, I, I THINK ALL THAT SHOULD OPPOSE, SAY, NAY, GIVE THE WHITE. WHAT WAS SAID? THAT'S PROBABLY WAS ME TALKING TO MY GRANDSON. OK, OK, NO PROBLEM. ALL RIGHT. THE EYES HAVE IT. SO THEY FOLLOW THIS FOR THE COACHES. ADMINISTRATORS AND TEACHERS ARE LISTED AS FOLLOWS. OK. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WOULD BE THE POST 1965 ATHLETES. AND THAT'S CAMILLA. HEY, HEY, THIS WAS IT WAS A HARD BATTLE, BUT WE HAD A COUPLE OF TIMES AT THE TOP AND EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT RANKED THAT THAT WAY. AS IT STANDS, ROBERT JOHNSON AND RUDY ARGUETA THAT THE TOP NUMBER OF VOTES FROM OUR COMMITTEE AS WE'RE WHURLEY. IN THAT ORDER, JOHN JOHNSON, I BELIEVE THAT WAS TRACKED AND RICHARDSON. VETON NICELY, MCQUOID, TROY BAILEY, JASON INGRAM, EARL COOK AND CORINNE REED TIED WITH ERIC WILLIAMSON FOR THE 11TH, SO THE 10TH AND 11TH SPOT. SO IF MY COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW CLOSE ALL THE OTHERS WERE, I'LL LET YOU. I CAN LET YOU KNOW THAT TOO. SO MY QUESTION IS, WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE TIE AT THE END WITH GREG COMBET WILL BE THE THIRD FEMALE. MISSY KILPATRICK WAS CLOSE AS WELL, BUT SHE DIDN'T MAKE THE TOP TEN. BUT SINCE WE HAVE A THIRD FEMALE ALONG WITH ERIC WILKINSON, SHOULD WE ALLOW THEM BOTH TO GO THROUGH OR DO WE JUST ALLOW CORINNE? KAREEM WAS BASKETBALL. TECHNICALLY, THEY TIED FOR 10TH, RIGHT? SO, YES, I'D VOTE FOR THEM JUST TO BE 11. OK, SO I INCLUDED THEM BECAUSE OF THAT, BECAUSE I FELT LIKE THE I MEAN, IT'S NOT MY DECISION AT ALL, BUT I INCLUDED THEM BECAUSE BY ELIMINATING THE. [00:20:04] TIE AT 10TH PLACE, THE LOWEST ONE YOU ELIMINATED, I THINK ONE OF THE FEMALES, WHICH I THINK IN MY MIND, THAT'S JUST ONE AREA WHERE WE ALWAYS SEEM TO BE LACKING. YEAH, WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT SINCE THIS IS MY FIRST YEAR IN FIRST NOMINATION I VOTED FOR, I PUT FORTH LADELL SCOTT AND HE JUST MISSED THE SAME YEAR. NEXT YEAR. NEXT YEAR, MAYBE. BUT, SUSAN, REAL QUICK HERE, LET ME HELP YOU OUT, CORINNE, IS BASKETBALL GREEK? LET'S SAY I PROTRACTS. I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. AND OF COURSE, JUST TO WATCH BASEBALL OR FOOTBALL IS GOING TO BE BAILY'S BASED BASEBALL. OK, SO BASEBALL WILL BE OK FOR NOW, OK? TENNIS. BASKETBALL. WHICH ONE'S BASKETBALL? JASON INGRAM GOT? RODNEY WAS TRACK WAS AS RETRACK OR FOOTBALL CLOSE WAS JOHN JOHNSON TRACK. DID I GET THAT RIGHT? YEAH. OK, ESSAR WALLAND TRACK. I SEE A THEME GOING ON HERE. MARK WILLIAMS, SOCCER, SOCCER. OK. OK, AND I'LL GO BACK. THESE ARE I'M SURE I'LL TAKE A YES AND THEN I'LL GET THEIR GRADUATION YEARS PUT IN HERE. THAT'S WHAT THAT ONE COMES. OK, ALL RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSIONS? NOW, I I'M NOT ON THIS COMMITTEE, BUT RODNEY IS STILL WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM STILL, AND IT'S PROBABLY MORE SUCCESSFUL AS A COACH THAN EVEN AS A AS A THROWER. I THINK IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, HE HAD FIRST, SECOND AND THIRD AT THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP AND ESPECIALLY ON THE FEMALE SIDE, REALLY KILLING IT AS A COACH FOR US IS ALSO ON OUR STAFF, OUR TEACHING STAFF AT T.C. SO HE DOES THAT DISQUALIFY HIM? YEAH, WHY DOES HE STILL WORKING AT THE SCHOOL? I SEE ONLY A COACH OR HE'S GOING IN AS A PLAYER, HE'S GOING TO AS AN ATHLETE, AS AN ATHLETE. OK, AS YOU KNOW, A LOT ELSE THAT'S STILL OUT THERE. HE'S GOING AS ATHLETE COACH ALI. ARE WE NOT SUPPOSED TO THINK ABOUT THAT? AREN'T PART OF THE GUIDELINES OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE DONE AFTER THE FACT AS WELL THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER? SO HE'S NOT GOING IN AS A COACH, BUT HIM COACHING, I THINK WOULD BE I YOU COULD CLARIFY IF I SHOULD NOT BE THINKING OF THAT, IF I'M TRYING TO VOTE FOR HIM. JUST TO CLARIFY WHETHER IT BE HAPPENING AFTER HE LEFT SCHOOL. SO, YES, I WOULD THINK YOU LOOK LOOK AT THAT. BUT AS BEST AS AN ATHLETE, RODNEY, SHOTPUT, HE BROKE PHILBIN'S IN THE SHOT-PUT RECORD, WHICH TOOK ALMOST 15, 20 YEARS. HE WAS THE TWO TIME STATE CHAMPION THEN HALF THE UNIVERSITY GREAT THROWER BECAUSE HE CAN'T SPEAK AND SPEAK VOLUMES OF WHAT HE'S DONE AS A AS A COACH ALSO, BUT ALSO AS AN ATHLETE. HE'S HE WAS OUTSTANDING. HE WAS ALL MET. INTERAC JOHN JOHNSON, AGAIN, ONE OF THE ORIGINALS AS A TRACK ATHLETE, EARL COOKE, THE TRACK ATHLETE FOOTBALL LEAGUE, PLAYED AT DUKE UNIVERSITY AS A DEFENSIVE BACK THERE. WAS HE BEING NOMINATED AS FOR TRACK OR FOOTBALL WOULD GO OK. IT WAS ALL MEN, FOOTBALL, JAYCE, ENGLAND ALL MET ONLY TO SAY MAYBE TWO TIMES ORMAT, HE WAS THE LEADING SCORER IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA. SENIOR YEAR WENT ON TO BOWIE STATE UNIVERSITY. I THINK YOU HAVE TO GET HIM TO A CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP AS SURELY MANY REGIONAL CHAMPIONS IN THE TRIPLE JUMP STATE CHAMPIONSHIP JUMP INDOORS, STILL HOLD THE SCHOOL RECORD IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP OUTDOORS, GOING AFTER THE ALL AROUND ATHLETE ALL MET TWICE AND TRACK. WHO ELSE IN THERE THAT'S BEEN A NICELY SHE WAS COACHED BY COACH ATKINS, SHE PRETTY MUCH DID EVERYTHING. HERTEL SPRINGHILL JUMPS FROS OUTSTANDING ATHLETE. IS THE. [00:25:01] YES, OK, SHE'S IN YOUR CLASS. YES, IN MY CLASS. OK, YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON HER? IF YOU COULD BE THE VERY INSTRUMENTAL WITH US. PLACING HIM IN RELAYS, AS SHE ANGERED ARE OUR TWO OR TWO OF OUR RELAYS THAT PLACED FOURTH AND RELAYS. SHE WAS THE DISTRICT AND REGIONAL, HER INDOOR AND OUTDOOR CHAMPION. YEAH, OK, DIANE, ONCE AGAIN, SHE WAS AN ATHLETE, ATHLETIC, BASKETBALL, AND I THINK ALSO JERRY LEWIS SOCCER NOW, NOT THE SOFTBALL AS SHE WAS. OK, ALL RIGHT. AND FURTHER, SHE HAS DISTINGUISHED HERSELF AS ONE OF THE TOP GIRLS HIGH SCHOOL BASKETBALL COACH IN THE COUNTRY, AS EVIDENCED BY HER BEING SELECTED BY USA BASKETBALL TO COACH ON TEAM AWARD WINNING INTERNATIONAL TEAMS. SHE'S WON OVER FOUR HUNDRED AND FIFTY GAMES IN A 21 YEAR CAREER IN EDISON HIGH SCHOOL. HER NAME IS LEWIS NOW AND RICHARDSON LEWIS. AND LAST YEAR SHE TOOK HER TEAM TO THE COAST STATE CHAMPIONSHIP, WHERE THEY HAD GONE INTO THE TWO PREVIOUS YEARS AS A STATE RUNNER RUNNERS UP. SO I DON'T I DON'T THINK HER RECORD IS PARTICULARLY WITH HER INVOLVEMENT WITH USA BASKETBALL. I DON'T THINK IT'S MATCHED BY ANY OTHER GIRLS HIGH SCHOOL BASKETBALL COACH IN THE NORTHERN REGION. TO SOMEONE ELSE, THEIR TRUE ABILITY WAS A BASEBALL PLAYER, VERY GOOD, RUDY GIBSON WAS SOCCER PLAYERS. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW VERY MUCH ANYBODY KNOW ANYTHING. BUT AGAIN, I CAN SPEAK ON ERIC, I GUESS, OR. OK, SURE. OK. I MEAN, YOU CAN'T. YEAH, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, ERIC, HE PLAYED AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND AND NOW HE PLAYS IN THE MLS FOR THE PORTLAND TIMBERS COMMUNITY. YEAH. AND SO I THINK AT FIRST HE GOT TIME WITH THESE UNITED I THINK THEN HE GOT TRADED, BUT HE WAS PRETTY INSTRUMENTAL, I THINK WHEN THEY WON WHEN MARYLAND WON THE CHAMPIONSHIP. I THINK I THINK MAYBE THE WINNING GOAL IN A PLAYOFF GAME OR SOMETHING LEADING UP TO THAT. HE WAS AT THE GAME WINNING GOAL. YEAH. FOR THE REGIONALS. AND T.C. WILLIAMS WON THE TITLE. THEY WON A CHAMPIONSHIP GAME FOR THE SOCCER TEAM AND THE OTHER GUY IN THE NATIONAL TEAM AS WELL. WELL, YES, HIM AND HIS BROTHER TERRELL WERE BOTH INSTRUMENTAL IN THE SOCCER TEAM IN SOCCER BACK IN THAT 14 C REALLY BECAUSE IT WAS DONE OFF TO ME. BUT THEN AFTER THEY WON THE CHAMPIONSHIP, EVERYBODY STARTED REALLY GETTING BACK INTO IT. SO, YEAH, THEY WERE A GREAT INFLUENCE. WELL, ONE LAST POINT ON DIANE, RICHARD LEWIS AND THE TWENTY TWENTY EIGHTEEN, TWENTY NINETEEN SCHOOL YEAR SHE WAS VOTED THE NATIONAL HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS COACH OF THE YEAR. SO, SO, CHRISTIAN, I JUST ABOUT NOT ONLY HER, BUT ALSO RODNEY JOHNSON, SO. LATER ON, WOULD WE GO BACK FOR ANY I MEAN, DIANE RICHARDSON DOESN'T HAVE ANY CONFLICTS WITH BEING A. EMPLOYEE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT FOR SOMEONE LIKE RODNEY JOHNSON, ARE WE GOING TO GO BACK LATER AND PUT THEM IN AS A COACH, OR DOES IT MAKE SENSE THAT SHOULD WE PUT HIM IN THAT WE DO IT SORT OF AS ONE GIANT INDUCTION? I MEAN, AREN'T THOSE THE RULES THAT YOU HAVE TO BE OUT FOR FIVE YEARS BEFORE YOU CAN BE CONSIDERED? I MEAN, YEAH, TWO YEARS AFTER HE AS A COACH, SO BE IT. BUT I DON'T KNOW. WE CAN ASSUME THAT HE'S GOING TO GO IN AS A COACH AND THEREFORE EXCLUDE HIM AS AN ATHLETE. OK, OK. NO, I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT. I JUST MEANT. ONCE YOU'RE IN, DO YOU NEED TO GET IN TWICE? I THINK YOU COULD GET IN TWICE. I WOULD ARGUE THAT, LIKE IF YOU DESERVE IT AS A COACH, THAT IS SEPARATE FROM DESERVING IT AS AN ICON. OK, I KNOW WE'VE PUT OTHER PEOPLE UP SORT OF IN A COMBINATION WAY. THAT'S MY QUESTION. BUT THAT'S FINE. I JUST ASKING YOU TO CAMILA'S POINT ABOUT THIS BEING A DIFFICULT CHOICE TO GET IT DOWN TO [00:30:02] LEVEL. AND FRANKLY, IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE YOU COULD THROW A DART AT THAT GROUP AND OR THREE DARTS AND NOT NOT GO WRONG. BUT, YOU KNOW, TROY BAILEY. HE WAS A TERRIFIC BASEBALL PLAYERS ALL MET, ALL STATE AND ALSO A SIXTH ROUND DRAFT CHOICE OF THE CUBS AND WAS MOVING UP THE LADDER BEFORE HE HURT HIMSELF AND HAD TO DROP OUT. I MEAN, HE'S I THINK THERE'S ONE OTHER BASEBALL PLAYER IN THE HALL OF FAME, BUT HE WAS THROUGH AND I THINK HE'S A TERRIFIC FOOTBALL PLAYER, TOO, UNLESS I MIGHT HAVE THAT WRONG. BUT, YEAH, FOOTBALL AND BASKETBALL. AND JASON INGRAM, I WISH I HAD MORE SPECIFIC. I KNOW HE WAS ALL MAD AT LEAST ONE YEAR AND WAS A LEADER ON A LOT OF THOSE TERRIFIC TEAMS BACK IN THE 80S AND 90S MAYBE. NICE TO SEE HIM UP THERE. IT'S A TERRIFIC BY NIGHT COMMITTEE MUST HAVE A HARD JOB, BUT THEY DID GOOD WORK. SO ON THIS COMMITTEE, THE NUMBERS WERE THE CLOSEST AS FAR AS MAKING CHOICES. OK, WELL, THE POINT WHERE THE CLOSEST KOREAN RE KOREAN WAS, OF COURSE, A BASKETBALL PLAYER AND SHE ENDED UP GOING TO THE GEORGE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY, VERY SUCCESSFUL START AS FRESHMAN. AND SHE STARTED AS A FRESHMAN AT D.C., COULD HAVE STARTED AS EIGHTH GRADER, BUT IT WOULD ALLOW EIGHTH GRADE TO PLAY VARSITY. SHE'S VERY, VERY, VERY TALENTED. ALL MET. GREAT SCORE. SO WE HAD THIS GREAT LIST HERE. YOU KNOW, THE DISCUSSIONS. YOU'RE NOT ALL THAT FAVOR. TO GET A MOTION, PLEASE. I'M SORRY. I KNOW, I JUST WANT TO GET A SECOND LOOK THAT WAY, THIS WAY SAYS A SECOND. OK, THEY'VE GOT A SECOND AND WE HAVE A. THE QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT WE ACCEPT THE POST 1965, AT LEAST ALL THE PAPERS SAID I I. ALL THE POLLS SAY NO, THEY. HERE YOU'RE NOT. WE ACCEPTED THOSE NOMINATION, THIS CATEGORY THREE, 1965 ATHLETES. WAS THAT DANIELLE AND MEAGAN? OK, SO I'LL JUST SAY THAT IN OUR GROUP, LEWIS HARRIS WAS LIKE THE CLEAR FRONT RUNNER TO EVERYONE AND MAYBE JIM LEWIS, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON IT MORE. BUT HE WAS A THREE SPORT ATHLETE IN THE KENT STATE AND I THINK STILL HOLDS THE RECORD FOR INTERCEPTIONS. I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT SAID AND PLAYED FOR THE STEELERS AND IN THE ATHLETIC HALL OF FAME FOR KENT STATE. AND A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS AS WELL, THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN HALL OF FAME. AND THEN SOMETHING ELSE, TOO, BUT SEEMS LIKE WAS IT JUST AN ALL STAR ATHLETE IN THREE SPORTS, BUT THEN ALSO WENT ON TO REALLY DO SOME GREAT THINGS IN FOOTBALL. SO I DECIDED I LIKE THAT BIT. AND JIM, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WANT SAY MORE THAN THAT, BUT. YEAH, YEAH, THAT WAS GREAT. DANIEL. YES. LEWIS IS A 1963 GRADUATE OF PARKER, RIGHT. WHERE HE WAS A PITCHER ON THE BASEBALL TEAM, STARTING FORWARD ON THE 63. STATE RUNNERUP, TEAM BASKETBALL AND AND ALLSTATE PERFORMER AS A QUARTERBACK, YES, HE WAS AN ALL-AMERICAN BACK TO YOU ALL AMERICAN TEAMS. ONE WAS PLAYBOY AND THE OTHER ESCAPES ME RIGHT NOW. BUT NONETHELESS, HE WAS AN ALL-AMERICAN AT KENT STATE UNIVERSITY AND BROKE ALL OF THEIR INTERCEPTION RECORDS FOR GAME AND SEASON AND CAREER. AND YES, HE STILL HOLDS THOSE TO THIS DAY AND PLAYED TWO YEARS WITH THE PITTSBURGH STEELERS AS A DEFENSIVE BACK IN 1860, 67, 68. YEAH. IN THE THIRD HALL OF FAME AT HAND, HE IS IN, BESIDES THE KENT STATE HALL OF FAME AND THE ALEXANDRIA AFRICAN-AMERICAN HALL OF FAME IS THE VIP, THE VIRGINIA INTERSCHOLASTIC ASSOCIATION HALL OF FAME, OF WHICH PARKER WAS A MEMBER. ONE ELSE. ANYONE ELSE ON MY GROUP FEEL FREE TO CHIME IN, BUT ROBERT GUARDA, THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF FOR HIM IN THE LIKE THE PACKET OR WHATEVER, BUT HE HAD A SCHOLARSHIP WHERE HE PLAYED FOOTBALL AT DUKE AND WAS PART OF THEIR COTTON BOWL TEAM AND THEY WON. [00:35:02] I THINK HE WAS INDUCTED IN THE HALL OF FAME, THE HIGH SCHOOL HALL OF FAME. AND YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF LITERATURE ON BOB HAS BOB CARD IN THERE AS WELL. SO I'M NOT SURE IF ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK ON HIM OR NOT, BUT. OK. AND I CERTAINLY HAVE KNOWN YOU, CHARLES PRICE, FOR A LONG TIME, HE WAS UP AT MY FRATERNITY CHAPTER AFTER SCHOOL AFTER, YOU KNOW, ACADEMIC OR ATHLETIC CAREER. HE WAS ALSO, I BELIEVE, THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN PRINCIPAL IN FAIRFAX COUNTY AND DID SEVERAL, YOU KNOW, LOTS OF THINGS IN EDUCATION, WAY BEYOND ATHLETICS. HE'S A BIG IDOL OF MINE. I THINK HE ALSO THE THREE. I'M SORRY. YOU THINK HE WAS A THREE SPORT HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETE ALSO. SOMEONE ELSE. YES, HE WAS ONE TO ASK WITH YOUR PARTNER. GREAT, HE WAS A 240 POUND FULLBACK, A VIRGINIA STATE BLACK COLLEGE ALL-AMERICAN. HE WAS THE FIRST PERSON FROM VIRGINIA STATE AND FROM ALEXANDRIA, AFRICAN-AMERICAN ANYWAY, TO PLAY PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL PLAYER WITH THE LOS ANGELES DODGERS, THE L.A. AND THE HAWAIIAN WARRIORS. AND AND, YES, HE WAS BEFORE BEING THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN ADMINISTRATOR AS ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL, I THINK HE WAS. BUT NONETHELESS, AFTER HIS TREMENDOUS COACHING CAREER AT LUTHRA JACKSON HIGH SCHOOL AS HEAD FOOTBALL COACH, AND PRIOR TO THAT, HE COACHED FOOTBALL AND HAD UNDEFEATED TEAMS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL IN LYNCHBURG, WHICH ESCAPES ME. BUT HE BECAME THE AFTER INTEGRATION. HE BECAME THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN HEAD FOOTBALL COACH AT A VIRGINIA HIGH SCHOOL WHEN HE WAS NAMED HEAD COACH AT LANGLEY HIGH SCHOOL. JIMMY WOULD. JIM, YOU STILL WITH US? YEAH, BUT THAT. I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO REALLY, YOU KNOW, READ THROUGH THE LIST IS SOME GREAT STATS IN THERE, SO YOU GO BACK AS YOU MAKE THAT SELECTION. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO GET A MOTION TO SET THE THREE SIX FIVE ATHLETES. I WILL GET YOU A SECOND. THEY GO AHEAD WITH YOUR MOST AND YOU SAY IT. IT'S REALLY COME TO SAYING. WELL, COME ON, TRACY, I KNOW SHE MAY HAVE TO ACCEPT WHATEVER YEAH, SO SHE MOVES TO APPROVE THE PRE 1966 THAT IS HER SECOND SECOND DAY THIS WEEK SAYING ARE IN DISCUSSIONS. THANK YOU. SHE IS ON THE PRE 1965. ALL THE BABIES SAID, AY, AY, AY. ALL THE POLLS SAY NAY. AND ON THE PREDNISONE, SIX AND FIVE FOLLOW THIS LIST IS DEERE'S AS POSTED. OK. ANY QUESTIONS, ANYONE REGARDING THE NOMINEES? AND OUR PANEL IS GOING FORWARD TO OUR NEXT MEETING ON MAY 24TH. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF CLARIFYING QUESTIONS AND I DON'T HAVE MY NOTEBOOK. SO I DIDN'T I WASN'T ABLE TO LOOK THIS UP AT THE ALEXANDROV BASEBALL TEAM. IS THAT A BOYS OR GIRLS TEAM? BECAUSE I THINK THERE WERE TWO NOMINATED. OR BOTH, I THINK THEY WERE NOMINATED MAYBE EVEN ON THE SAME FORM, SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING. I COULD BE WRONG, BUT I WOULD I DON'T THINK THERE WAS A GIRLS TEAM THAT WAS SEEN AS A BOYS TEAM. OK, JUST CHECKING. OK. ALL RIGHT, AGAIN, THANKS TO THE COMMITTEE SCREENING COMMITTEE. EXCELLENT JOB. AGAIN, THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT TASK, BUT I THINK THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET THROUGH IT. STILL, COURAGE AWARD NOMINATION SOMETIMES DON'T GET IT THE FIRST TIME, BUT A JOB AHEAD OF US NOW IS GOING TO BE EVEN TOUGHER. SO I HOPE YOU TAKE THE TIME AND REALLY GO THROUGH, READ THE STATS AND, YOU KNOW, MORE INFORMATION OUT THERE TO RESEARCH IT AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN YOU'RE READY TO GO, YOU [00:40:03] GO LOOK AT THE CRITERIA THAT WE HAVE SET FORTH BY LAWS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE SOMEWHERE IN THAT BALLPARK. ALSO, KEEP IN MIND THAT WE WANT TO TRY TO KEEP A 60 40 SPLIT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER WITH 60 WITH FEMALES AND BORDER WITH MALES OR VICE VERSA. SO LET'S MAKE SURE WE ALSO KEEP THEM BACK OUR HEADS. HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS TO THE BOARD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT PROCESS. DISCUSSION OF PUTTING ON INDUCTION. AND AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING A WHOLE NEW BUSINESS IN A NEW BUSINESS THAT YOU WANT TO BRING FORWARD TO THE COMMITTEE THEY WANT. OK, HERE ARE NONE TO REPORT. AGAIN, I HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT ON AN ANNOUNCEMENT BY OTHER MEMBERS. [VIII. Announcements by Members] NO, BUT I HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE I'M GOING TO HAVE TO EMAIL THIS AROUND TO EVERYONE. SO WHEN I EMAIL THIS AROUND. CAN WE AGREE THAT WHEN YOU RANK THEM OR VOTE FOR THEM IN YOUR LITTLE SLOT HERE NOW THESE ARE THE RANKS OF THE COMMITTEES CAME UP WITH? DO YOU WANT THEM VISIBLE? OR JUST HERE RIGHT NOW. YES, I KNOW. OK. OK, SO AND THEN WHEN YOU VOTE, ONE SHOULD BE YOUR TOP VOTE JUST SO. THEY DON'T MAKE IT EASY FOR ME BECAUSE I THINK SOME PEOPLE GET CONFUSED THAT ONE IS TOP OR THREE IS TOP. SO WE'RE JUST DOING LIKE HERE'S YOUR FIRST CHOICE, YOUR SECOND CHOICE AND YOUR THIRD CHOICE, AND I'LL CONVERT THE NUMBERS. SO BUT YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE THE ORDER OF ONE, TWO, THREE. OK, GREAT. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE OR DO I NEED TO PUT AN EXPLANATION UP HERE, WHICH I CAN PUT ONE FOOT LIKE ALSO? BECAUSE WHAT WE APPROVE THE DOCUMENT, I SAY NOT REALLY TO EVERYBODY. THE COMMITTEE SHOULD VOTE BY RECORD THE CANDIDATES FROM THE TOP TO THE BOTTOM WITH THE HIGHEST POINT BY A QUARTER TO THE TOP CANDIDATE IN EACH CATEGORY. SO, OK, WELL, I DON'T DO IT EITHER WAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN YOU PUT IT PUT IT UP THERE, I'LL PUT IT UP HERE SOMEHOW IN A WAY THAT'S, I GUESS, ENCOURAGE YOU TO CHECK YOUR EMAIL, READ A DOCUMENT SO FAMILIAR WITH IT. AND THAT WOULD HELP US BECAUSE I WANT TO ONE DAY I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS. WE DO THE SAME THING, WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE DOING SCREAMING OR WE'RE DOING UP ON THE BOAT, BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF OUR VOTES WILL BE SOMETHING ELSE. AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT, AS YOU READ THAT DOCUMENT, WHAT WE VOTED ON, THE MINIMUM NUMBER. IT'S GOING TO BE ONE ATHLETE IN ALL CATEGORIES THAT THAT'S THE MINIMUM GUY. SO. AS WE GET TO THE END, AS WE JUST TO LOOK AT IT, BUT THE MAXIMUM NUMBER CAN ONLY BE 10 INDUCTEES THIS YEAR, THAT'S WHAT WE AGREED UPON. THAT MAKES SENSE, RIGHT? RIGHT. SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE ARE FORCED RANKING WITH THE COACHES ONE, TWO AND THREE. IT IS ACROSS ALL OF THEM. THEY ARE ALL PART OF OUR POOL. CORRECT? NO, BUT IF WE DO IT ANY OTHER WAY, THEN WE'RE GUARANTEED TO HAVE. HOW WILL WE KNOW HOW MANY ATHLETES THEN MAKE IT? OK, WE'RE GOING TO DO IT. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, BECAUSE IT IS A GREAT QUESTION HERE, WHAT MY THOUGHTS WERE AS WELL. HERE'S SOMEONE ELSE BEFORE I GIVE MY OPINION THAT WHATEVER WE WANT TO THINK, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THAT PROCESS. I THINK THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO NOT DO I THINK WE'D HAVE TO BE REVOTING EVERYONE AGAINST EACH OTHER, AND THEN IT'S HOWEVER MANY OF THESE PEOPLE ARE PROMOTING TOTAL LOSSES. I'M NOT QUITE SURE IF IT'S TWENTY TWO OR SOMETHING. LET'S PRETEND YOU WOULD DO IT THAT WAY, BECAUSE AUTOMATICALLY THE POST NINETEEN SIXTY FIVE ATHLETES ARE ALL PROBABLY GOING TO GET MORE POINTS. RIGHT, BECAUSE THEY, YOU CAN GET LIKE A 10 AND THEIR CATEGORY, BUT IN OTHER PEOPLE'S CATEGORIES YOU CAN ONLY GET LIKE THREE. SO IT WOULD SEEM THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO HAVE IT BE THAT WE WERE VOTING EVERYBODY IN ONE GROUP AND THEN BASED ON WHAT WE HAD DECIDED, IT WAS SAYING THAT OR HOW I UNDERSTOOD IT WAS THAT AN ATHLETE HAD TO BE PICKED FROM EACH OF THE CATEGORIES, BUT NOT NECESSARILY A COACH OR A TEAM, I GUESS. AND I THAT'S HOW I UNDERSTOOD IT AS WELL. AND SO YOU DO THE SCREENING AT THE END. YOU SAY, OKAY, HERE ARE TOP TEN. DO THESE TOP TEN MEET THE MINIMUM CRITERIA THAT WE SET OUT? SO IS IS AT LEAST X WHATEVER WE AGREE TO FEMALE ATHLETES. AND IF IT'S NOT, THEN WE PROBABLY NEED WE NEED TO REVOKE. I AGREE WITH THAT, BUT WOULD IT WOULD IT MAKE ANY SENSE SINCE LIKE TEENS, WE MAY NOT WANT TO SORT OF RECOGNIZE MORE THAN ONE TEAM A YEAR, BUT WE DIDN'T AGREE. [00:45:06] SO IT COULD BE THAT WE RECOGNIZE THREE TEAMS IN A YEAR IF THEY THAT BY FAR THE BEST. ALL RIGHT. WHAT WE AGAIN, WHAT I WISH I CAN PULL THAT DOCUMENT UP, BUT WHAT WE AGREE ON WAS ONE FROM EACH CATEGORY NAMES. AND THEN WHAT FOLLOWS THAT IS BASED ON WHAT NUMBERS WE LOOK AT AND MAKING SURE THAT WE GET THAT 40, 60 WITHIN THE PROCESS. RIGHT. WELL, HERE IS GOING TO BE MY SUGGESTION, WHICH BECAUSE THE ATHLETES THEMSELVES PROBABLY GARNER MORE INTEREST OR MAYBE NOT MORE INTEREST, BUT THERE'S MORE OF THEM. AND SO, LIKE YOU SAY, THE POINT SYSTEM WOULD BE DIFFERENT. WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO HAVE THIS UPPER SECTION OF THE TEAMS AND THE CONTRIBUTORS BE A SEPARATE SECTION? SO YOU WOULD DO YOUR VOTES IN THERE AND THEN DO THE OTHER ONE IS TWO VOTES IN THERE AND THEY DON'T. SO WHAT TEAMS WOULD OR COACHES WOULD RISE TO THE TOP AND THEN. I DON'T I DON'T THINK SO, NO. OK, I THINK LITERALLY YOU JUST DO THAT. DID WE SATISFY THE MINIMUM CRITERIA AT THE END? AND IF WE DID, WE NEED TO REVOTE IT BECAUSE THAT WAY YOU'RE NOT NATURALLY PUSHING MORE OR FEWER THINGS UP THAN WOULD OTHERWISE. THE MINIMUMS ARE REALLY JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING THAT WE'RE SATISFIED KIND OF BROADER KIND OF EQUITY TYPE STUFF, WHICH IS OK, WHICH IS IMPORTANT. YEAH, OK. FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, I THINK THAT'S ESSENTIALLY THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT. DO IT ANY OTHER WAY WOULD BE SO COMPLEX WE'D NEVER GET THERE. BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT NOW, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER. I'D SAY THERE ARE TWENTY TWO CANDIDATES ON THIS LIST. WE WOULD RANK THEM ONE THROUGH TWENTY TWO, RIGHT. WITH ONE GETTING THROWN OUT AND THERE YOU GO. AND THEN AND IF WE DON'T MEET THE CRITERIA, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF REVOTING, BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH, SAY, ENOUGH WOMEN OR IF WE DON'T HAVE A COACH IN THE TOP TEN, WE JUST TAKE THE COACH. THAT GOT THE MOST POINTS BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO GET ONE. IF WE DON'T, THAT'S A GOOD POINT. YEAH, I HAVE 40 PERCENT OF THE WOMEN. WELL, WE TAKE THE HIGHEST VOTE GETTERS TILL WE GET TO 40 PERCENT. THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DICEY BECAUSE THEN IT'S GOING TO DROP SOMEBODY ELSE DOWN BECAUSE WE HAVE A 10 PERCENT MAXIMUM. BUT I GUESS LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WEIRDNESS, IF WE GET THERE, JUST JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE DO OUR MEN WITH THEM, OR I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ESTABLISH BACK AND THAT WE'RE DOING THE MINIMUM, WHICH IS ONE IN EACH CATEGORY. SO IN ANY EVENT, IN EACH CATEGORY, THE HIGHEST VOTE GETTERS GOING TO GET IN AND THEN THEY'RE ON DOWN. THEY GO STRICTLY ON MERIT, RIGHT? WELL, I THINK IT WAS JUST TWENTY ALSO GOOD PEOPLE. SO YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO CONSIDER JUST JUST JOINING US OUT HERE. YES. YOU GO ACCORDING TO CATEGORIES BECAUSE YOU DO TWENTY TWO. I DON'T KNOW. I GUESS I THOUGHT THAT WELL ENOUGH TO SEE WHERE ARE WE GOING TO ELIMINATE SOME PEOPLE. NO ONE. IN FACT, I THINK WHAT YOU'LL END UP DOING IS YOU WILL BE DISPROPORTIONATELY HANDICAPPING THE THE THE ONES THAT HAVE A FEWER NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THEM RIGHT NOW. I THINK YOU'VE GOT TO GO ONE TO TWENTY FIVE. AND I ACTUALLY THINK YOU'VE GOT TO PUT TWENTY FIVE POINTS TO YOUR HIGHEST ONE, SUSAN, BECAUSE. BECAUSE THEN I DECIDED IT WILL BE. YES. AND THEN YEAH. TO, TO, I THINK TO, TO JIM'S POINT YOU, WE SAY OK, WELL WE DIDN'T FIND A POST SIXTY LET'S SAY WE DIDN'T FIND A PRE SIXTY FIVE ATHLETE FOR EXAMPLE. WE SAID OK, WELL WHOEVER IT WAS ON THAT LIST GOT THE HIGHEST FROM, YOU KNOW THEY MOVE UP AND THEN THE FORMER NUMBER TEN. FALLS OFF THAT LIST, AND I ALSO I ALSO THINK THAT TO MARK'S EARLIER POINT, LIKE IT MAYBE IT IS THAT WE THINK THAT TWO TEAMS SHOULD GO IN OR MAYBE IF YOU THINK TWO COACHES SHOULD GO IN. AND IF WE ONLY DID THE TOP VOTE GETTER PER CATEGORY, THEN IT'S LIKE, HOW WOULD YOU THEN DECIDE? BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY, WHAT, FIVE OR HOW MANY CATEGORIES? FIVE OR SIX. SO HOW FOUR? BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. SO, LIKE, IT DOESN'T SEEM FAIR BECAUSE THEN WHO WOULD YOU PICK FOR THAT? SO I THINK IT WOULD NEED TO BE TWENTY FIVE TO ONE JUST SO MAYBE WE DO THINK IT SHOULD BE TWO TEAMS OR TWO COACHES OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE OTHERWISE I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD ESTABLISH WHERE THOSE OTHER FOUR PEOPLE CAME FROM. OK, SO YOU KNOW THE DISCUSSION OF THAT ONE AS WELL. I HAVE ONE OF THE SUGGESTION WHICH IS JUST AN OUTLIER IN CASE YOU NEED IT. DO YOU WANT TO LIKE WHERE IT SAYS RANK HERE? IF I TAKE ALL THE NUMBERS OUT OF THERE, DO YOU WANT PEOPLE ALSO TO RANK THEIR CHOICES IN CASE WE HAVE TO LOOK AT. THE NUMBERS WOULD ALREADY BE A RANKING NO RIGHT, IF I SAID, WELL. WELL, YES, BUT IF YOU HAVE TO GO INTO ONE CATEGORY, IT WOULD SHOW YOU ARE YOU ARE DOING THAT BY DESIGN. LIKE IF IF THE YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE 1990, 1990, 91, THE GIRLS TRACK AND FIELD IS YOUR [00:50:06] THIRD IS MY THIRD CHOICE, FOR EXAMPLE. AND THE THE SEVENTY NINE POINT DISTANCE WOULD BE MY EIGHTH CHOICE. OK, YOU'RE RIGHT. I'VE ALREADY MADE THAT DECISION. OK, YOU'RE RIGHT. I GOT IT. BUT COULD I GET THAT IN A FORM OF EMOTION? SOMEONE WOULD DO THE LANGURS FOR THAT TO COME TO RESEARCH. SO WE CALL DIGESTED. I WOULD MOVE THAT WE VOTE FOR THE SLATE AS A GROUP AND RANK THEM ONE THROUGH TWENTY FIVE IN ORDER OF OUR TOP CHOICE AND THEN GO THROUGH THE RANKINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THAT WE MEET OUR MINIMUM CRITERIA. GOOD. I AND I'M SORRY. CAN YOU REPEAT THAT AGAIN? NOT A CHANCE. I'LL SEND YOU A LINK. THERE IS A TAPE OF THIS AT THE END. SO I WAS GIVEN MY MOTION WOULD BE THAT WE RANK THE TWENTY FIVE CANDIDATES ONE THROUGH TWENTY FIVE AND THEN WE WILL SCORE AND THEN SELECT THE TOP TEN. IF WE DON'T MEET OUR MINIMUM CRITERIA THROUGH THE NATURAL SELECTION PROCESS OF THE OF THE ORIGINAL VOTE, THEN PEOPLE IN A CATEGORY WHO. DIDN'T MEET THE MINIMUM WILL BE MOVED UP INTO THE TOP 10 IN THE LAST PERSON WILL MOVE DOWN. THAT'S THE BEST I CAN DO. PROBABLY MAKES NO SENSE TO ANYBODY ELSE, LINK, AND I REPEAT WHAT YOU SAID. SURE, YOU MOVE TO RANK THE TWENTY FIVE CANDIDATES, ONE THROUGH TWENTY FIVE, AND THEN SCORE AND SELECT THE TOP TEN IF WE DON'T MEET OUR MINIMUM CRITERIA THROUGH THE NATURAL SELECTION CATEGORY IS FOR US. IF WE DON'T MEET, THEN A PERSON IN A CATEGORY THAT WASN'T SELECTED WILL MOVE UP INTO THE TOP TEN AND THE TENTH PERSON WOULD MOVE, WOULD MOVE DOWN. I WILL NEVER BE A CLERK IN A COURT. I JUST WANT YOU TO REMEMBER YOU VOLUNTEERED FOR THIS. YOU DID OK. JUST LET ME CLEAN THIS UP THEN. A PERSON IN A CATEGORY THAT. SO I'M AT NATURAL SELECTION. IF WE DON'T MEET OUR MINIMUM CRITERIA, OH, HERE YOU GO, IF WE DON'T MEET THE MINIMUM CRITERIA, THEN THEN THE TOP VOTE GETTER IN THE IN THE MIDDLE THAT DOES THAT DIDN'T MEET THE MINIMUM WILL MOVE UP INTO THE TOP DOWN. YEAH. MAYBE YOU CAN SAY IN THE DEFICIENT CATEGORY AFTER YOU CAUTION WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL. ALL RIGHT. OK, HARRIET, PERIOD. IT GOES BACK INTO THE SECOND I SECOND THAT DISCUSSION. YES, OK. THE DISCUSSIONS. OK, HERE, ANOTHER DISCUSSION OF THE PAPER. I'M NOT GOING TO ASK YOU TO READ IT ALL AGAIN. NOT ALL OF THE FAMOUS I KNOW ALL THE POLLS SAY NAY. OK, HERE, AND THEN WE WILL FOLLOW THE EMOTION HERE AS FAR AS AMERICAN FOLLOWERS FROM ONE TO TWENTY FIVE AND FILL IN THE BLANKS WHERE WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE GOT EVERY TERRITORY COVERED. HEY, SUSAN, YOU JUST MIGHT MAKE IT CLEAR ON THE FORM THAT IT'S ACTUALLY TWENTY FIVE IS NUMBER ONE. I WILL I WILL MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S CLEAR BECAUSE I THINK ONE OF THE SAMPLE AND THAT MIGHT BE REALLY HELPFUL IS WOULD IT BE TOO MUCH WORK TO ASK? CAN YOU LOOK AT A COLUMN AND PUT THE CORRESPONDING NUMBER ON THE FORMS TO THE NAMES SO THAT AS WE'RE REVIEWING THEM, IT'LL BE EASY FOR US TO DEFINE THE NUMBER. SO I'LL PUT ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, 10. I LIKE THAT. NO. NINETY EIGHT IN THE BOOK. OH, OK. SO OK. SO LIKE RODNEY JOHNSON HAS LIKE. 20 PAGES OF APPLICATION AND THERE ARE MULTIPLE APPLICATIONS, SO I CAN DO THAT IF IT'S TOO HARD, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT IF I DON'T DO TOO MUCH OF IT, YOU KNOW, BUT IF YOU DO YOU WANT THE PAGE? NO. WELL, OR SO ARE YOU LOOKING AT THESE IN THE GOOGLE DOCS? ARE YOU LOOKING AT THEM IN YOUR NOTEBOOK? I WAS LOOKING AT THEM IN THE GOOGLE BOX SO I CAN I CAN. PUT THE NUMBER OF THE PAGE IN THE GOOGLE DOC, I THINK THAT WOULD BE, BUT I DON'T WANT TO MAKE LIKE FOUR HOURS WORK FOR YOU. SO IF IT'S TOO HARD, IT'S OK. SO I CAN. THE GOOGLE DOC HAS PAGE NUMBERS, I THINK ALREADY I JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT THEM. SO I THINK THAT, AGAIN, IF YOU CAN'T, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT, OK? [00:55:02] AND I'LL MAYBE I CAN WATCH IT DEPENDING ON HOW MANY APPLICATIONS PEOPLE HAVE IN THERE. I CAN PUT THE NUMBER OF THE APPLICATION IN THERE AS WELL. YEAH, THE NUMBER THE APPLICATION WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS A LITTLE BOOK IN THE DOOR. OK, OK, OK. I JUST KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOT IN YOUR NOTEBOOK IN NUMERICAL ORDER, SO. OK. ALL RIGHT. OK. OK, WELL, CLEAR THAT PART. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE SUGGESTION THERE, THAT'S A GOOD PIECE TO TAKE CARE OF RIGHT NOW. NO, NO, NO OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS. THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE THE 24TH DEADLINE FOR VOTING IS WEDNESDAY, MAY THE 19TH. [IX. Future Business] BY NOON, THEY THAT OK, SO PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, LET'S NOT WAIT TO THE LAST. MOMENT. TAKE YOUR TIME AND GO THROUGH THIS THE. IF YOU DO A CATEGORY EVERY OTHER DAY OR SOMETHING, BUT LET'S LET'S JUST GET IT DONE. SO EVERYBODY COMING TO SUSAN. YES, BECAUSE THEN I CAN CALCULATE IT PRIOR TO THE MEETING, THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL. SO IF PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT SOMEONE IN THE CATEGORY, CAN THEY CALL THE CHAIR OR JUST ANYONE IN THAT COMMITTEE? DO YOU HAVE A. IT DOESN'T MATTER. THAT'S SAME, I HAD A QUESTION. IF WE DO DOING RESEARCH OR COME UP WITH SOME COMMENTS ABOUT A PARTICULAR CANDIDATE, DOES IT VIOLATE THE FOUR YEAR RULES OR SOMETHING TO JUST IGNORE THAT INFORMATION WITH EVERYBODY? WELL, WHAT I CAN DO IS IF YOU WANT, WE CAN CREATE A GOOGLE DOC AND YOU CAN GO IN AND ADD THAT INFORMATION IN THERE AND THEN PEOPLE CAN GO IN AND VIEW IT. THE ONE THING I'D ASK IS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE LIKE FIVE PEOPLE IN THERE AT ONCE THAT YOU CAN BE IN THERE. BUT WHATEVER YOU DO, IT SHOULD BE RECORDED IN THE GOOGLE DOCS, SO. I'M NOT SURE I KNOW WHAT THAT IS, BUT, WELL, A GOOGLE DOC IS A LINK TO LIKE A WORD TYPE DOCUMENT AND YOU COULD. JUST TYPE IN WHAT YOU FOUND OUT. OK. AS YOU WELL KNOW, IT'S IN A IT'S IN THE CLOUD, SO IT JUST STAYS THERE AND PEOPLE CAN GO IN AND LOOK AT IT AT ANY TIME. I'LL GIVE YOU I'LL SEND YOU A LINK TO ONE AND YOU CAN SEE IF YOU CAN GET IN AND IF YOU HAVE ANY TROUBLE WITH IT, AND IF YOU DO, YOU CAN ALWAYS SEND THE COMMENTS AND I'LL POST THEM. I THINK I JUST HEARD DANIEL SAY SHE WOULD HELP, OK? THAT'S WHAT I MEANT. BUT, SUSAN, HOW THE PEOPLE KNOW THERE'S SOME UPDATES GOING IN. I MEAN, HOW DOES GOOGLE DOCS NOTIFY YOU AT ALL, DANIELLE, THAT YOU KNOW OF WITH NOTIFICATIONS OF CHANGE AS A TAG? PEOPLE IN IT, SO BE IT WOULD BE VERY COMPLICATED AND CUMBERSOME TO DO. OK, SO CAN I JUST TAG THE WHOLE COMMITTEE SO YOU COULD YOU IF YOU SAW SOMEONE LIKE YOU CHECKING IT DAILY OR WHATEVER TO SEE IF SOMETHING NEW WAS IN THERE, THEN YOU WOULD RECEIVE AN EMAIL. IF YOU PUT SOMEONE IN A COMMENT, WHAT THEIR EMAIL ADDRESS AND THAT WOULD TELL YOU THERE'S BEEN A NEW COMMENT. SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS. WE HAVE A GROUP EMAIL THROUGH AKES. SO IF I GAVE OUT IF I IF WE PUT THE GROUP EMAIL IN, IS THE. I'M NOT SURE I SIT IN AND SEE IF YOU DO OK, IF I GET IT. OK, OK, WE'LL TEST THAT LATER. ALL RIGHT. NOW, AWESOME. LOOK. ALL RIGHT. AGAIN, ON A JUNE SEVEN MEETING, I GOING TO ASK THAT WE FORM A COMMITTEE TO REVIEW OUR BYLAWS AND TWO, THREE, FOUR OR FIVE OF US, AND THEN WE'LL PRESENT IT BACK TO THE GROUP TO FURTHER REVIEW. I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT AND MAKE SURE SOME OF THE THINGS WE DID THIS YEAR ARE OUTSTANDING. BUT THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO CHANGE WITH IT SO THAT WHEN WE START OUR PROCESS NEXT YEAR, THAT WE, THE BYLAWS MATCH WHAT WE'RE DOING AND MAKING SURE THAT WE FOLLOW THAT WE MAY WANT TO UPDATE THE CRITERIA, BUT THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE ALL HAVE TO LOOK AT AND SEE WHAT DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO. ALL RIGHT. SO I HAD ONE SUGGESTION, THOUGH. I WAS THINKING ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW, THE PROCESS IS GOING TO MAYBE CHANGE OFTEN. SO I WONDER IF THE PROCESS THAT WE CHOOSE RATHER THAN AMEND THE BYLAWS EVERY X AMOUNT OF MONTHS, BECAUSE WHAT WE DID THIS YEAR MIGHT BE DIFFERENT NEXT YEAR. AND AS WE START MAYBE CHANGE OUR MINDS, WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE THAT. LIKE THE PROCEDURES BE AN ADDENDUM TO THE BYLAWS THAT CAN GET UPDATED RATHER THAN UPDATE [01:00:03] ALL THE BYLAWS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT LESS CUMBERSOME THAN HAVING ALL THE PROCEDURES FOR VOTING IN THE. OR THAT THE COMMITTEE ADOPTS THE VOTING PROCEDURES AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH YEAR. YOU KNOW, BEFORE THEY START CONSIDERING CANDIDATES THAT THEY THAT THAT'S PART OF THE BYLAWS JUSTICES THE COMMITTEE ADOPTS THE PROCEDURES FOR. VOTING EACH YEAR OR WHATEVER. JUST A THOUGHT FOR YOU ALL, AS SHOULD GO THROUGH, BECAUSE WE NEED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. OR MAYBE OR MAYBE WE JUST RE RATIFY WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR IF IT ENDS UP WORKING. EXACTLY. YOU CAN. ABSOLUTELY YOU CAN. BUT AS YOU WORK THROUGH IT AND MAYBE YOU FIND A GLITCH, YOU CAN JUST CHANGE THE PERSON. YOU CAN VOTE TO CHANGE THE PROCEDURES WITHOUT HAVING TO HAVE THE BOARD TO PROVE YOUR BYLAWS EVERY TIME THEY SENSE. GOOD. I CALL FOR A GERMAN. PURE EMOTION, I MOVE TO ADJOURN TO ADJOURN THE SECOND CIRCUIT. ALL RIGHT, GOOD NIGHT, EVERYONE. THANKS FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND I'LL SEE YOU ON THE 24TH. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.