GREAT. WELL, THIS IS DECEMBER 15TH, AND THIS IS THE BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THE
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ALEXANDRIA CITY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE WE HAD A CHANCE TO MEET.
AND SO THANK YOU FOR VOLUNTEERING YOUR TIME.
AGAIN, WE ARE RESUMING OUR SESSIONS NOW SO THAT WE CAN ASSIST THE SCHOOL BOARD IN PLANNING FOR THIS NEXT YEAR WITH A PRETTY DISCREET WORK PLAN.
BUT TO START OFF, WE HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES FROM OUR PREVIOUS MEETING,
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WHICH WAS ABOUT WAY BACK IN MARCH, AND NANCY SO KINDLY SHARED THEM EARLIER TODAY.IT IS A PERFUNCTORY KIND OF ACTIVITY THAT WE NEED TO APPROVE THE THE MEETING MINUTES AND THEN WE CAN MOVE ON TO HEARING FROM OUR STAFF REPORT.
AND WE ACTUALLY NEED TO APPROVE THE JANUARY, FEBRUARY AND MARCH MINUTES.
OK? DIDN'T YOU DIDN'T HAVE A QUORUM AT OUR MARCH MEETING TO APPROVE THE JANUARY AND FEBRUARY MINUTE.
SO I THINK WE CAN HANDLE THEM IN ONE SINGULAR MOTION TO.
I LOVE THAT WHEN SOMEBODY LIKE OF WALL STREET.
OK, AND THE SECOND THERE AND I SAY YES, I SAID YES.
ALL RIGHT. AND ALL IN FAVOR OF GREAT.
ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE DONE THAT BIT OF BUSINESS.
AND THANK YOU, NANCY, FOR KEEPING US ON TOP OF THAT WITH ALL OF THE NOTES.
AND SO I AM GOING TO ASK ROBERT TO GIVE US A BRIEF UPDATE ON WHERE WE'RE AT WITH
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THE AX BUDGET THIS YEAR IN TERMS OF THE STAFF REPORT BEFORE WE MOVE INTO WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING TO ACCOMPLISH AS A COMMITTEE THIS YEAR, ROBERT.AND IT'S GOOD TO SEE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.
GLAD TO SEE YOU GUYS ARE SAFE AND SOUND IN THIS PANDEMIC.
BEFORE I GO TO THE 20 TO, I JUST WANT TO GIVE A BRIEF KIND OF SYNOPSIS OF WHERE WE ARE IN TWENTY ONE. OBVIOUSLY, WITH THE VAST MAJORITY OF EVERYONE AT HOME, WE ARE SEEING QUITE A BIT OF SAVINGS IN SOME AREAS, PARTICULARLY IN THOSE THOSE AREAS ASSOCIATED WITH THE BUILDINGS, UTILITIES AND THE LIKE.
SO WITH THE BUILDINGS BEING SHUT DOWN, WE'RE WE'RE SEEING SOME SAVINGS THERE IN UTILITIES AS WELL AS THE NEED FOR SUBSTITUTES.
SO THUS FAR WE'RE HALFWAY THROUGH THE SCHOOL YEAR.
SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE TWO LARGEST COMPONENTS OF WHERE WE'RE SEEING SAVINGS, OBVIOUSLY, WITH THE EMPLOYEES AND EMPLOYEES STILL ON THE PAYROLL, WHERE WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY SEEING A HUGE REDUCTION OR LIKE VACANCY SAVINGS PERHAPS IN THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS.
AS FAR AS THE ARE THE FUNDING THAT WE RECEIVE FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THE CARE ACT, AS WELL AS THE STATE FUNDING FOR SOME CORONADO RELIEF FUNDS, THAT'S BEEN A GODSEND, QUITE HONESTLY. WE RECEIVE THREE POINT SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS IN CARE'S FUNDING.
AND WE HAD A PLAN TO TO SPEND THAT IN KEY AREAS.
AND SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, WE RECEIVED TWO POINT EIGHT DOLLARS MILLION IN FUNDING FROM THE STATE OF CORONADO RELIEF FUNDS.
AND SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS FOR THOSE AREAS THAT WE WERE SPENDING THE KAHRIZAK MONEY, WE SHIFTED THE SPENDING OVER AND WE USE THE STATES MONEY, THE TWO POINT EIGHT MILLION, WHICH HAS ACTUALLY HAS THE DECEMBER 30 FIRST DEADLINE.
SO IT KIND OF WORKED TO OUR ADVANTAGE.
SO TO THOSE EXPENDITURES THAT WE HAD THAT WE WERE SPENDING ON KAHRIZAK PPY LEARNING KITS AND THE LIKE, WE WERE ABLE TO SHIFT THE EXPENSES OVER TO THE TWO POINT EIGHT DOLLARS MILLION FROM THE STATE, WHICH PRETTY MUCH FREES UP THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE THREE POINT SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS OF CARE FUNDING, WHICH HAS AN EXPIRATION, IF THAT'S THE RIGHT WORD, WHICH HAS A.
ELIGIBILITY DATE THAT GOES TO TWENTY, TWENTY TWO, SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF FISCAL YEARS TO BE ABLE TO SPEND DOWN THE KAHRIZAK MONEY AS AS WE DECIDE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO APPLY TO US KIDS ACT. SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHERE WE STAND IN TERMS OF THE OUTSIDE FUNDING FOR TWENTY ONE AND WHERE WE ARE IN THE 2001 BUDGET.
WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE MIDST OF GETTING READY OR WE'RE HONESTLY PREPARING FOR OUR FCI TWENTY TWO BUDGET. WE ARE WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF HAVING TWO BY TWO MEETINGS WITH THE
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SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS TO DISCUSS STRATEGY AND AND IDEAS ON WHAT TO BE INCLUDED AND WHAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER. I WILL SAY THAT WE HAVE ARE WE FOCUS ON A THEME OF RESILIENCY AS THE DISTRICT AND WE'RE FOCUSING ON THREE R'S RECOVER, RETAIN, REIGNITE.SO OUR INITIAL PLAN IS TO PLACE FUNDING IN AREAS IN WHICH WE ARE PLANNING TO AND STRIVING TO HELP OUR STUDENTS, AS WELL AS STAFF RECOVER FROM POTENTIAL LEARNING LOSSES IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS. WE ARE HOPING TO DO CERTAIN THINGS TO HELP RETAIN OUR STAFF.
HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE A COMPENSATION ENHANCEMENTS INITIATIVES GOING FORWARD IN NY 22. AND BY DOING THAT, WE'RE HOPING THAT FOR FCI 22, WE'LL BE ABLE TO REIGNITE THE LEARNING AND THE PASSION AMONG OUR STAFF AS WELL AS THE STUDENTS OF CPS.
AS FAR AS SOME KEY DATES GO THURSDAY AS THE ADOPTION OF THE LEADERSHIP AND I THINK THE CITY HAS BEEN.
I'M NOT GOING TO SAY RE REDONE, BUT IT'S BEEN DONE WITH A MORE PURPOSEFUL INTENT ON FOCUSING ON THE THINGS THAT WE KNOW WE CAN ACCOMPLISH AND ACTUALLY WITH THE WITH THE PANDEMIC AND THE CLOSING DOWN OF OUR BUILDINGS, WE'VE ACTUALLY MADE GREAT PROGRESS ON SOME OF THE WORK THAT WAS SCHEDULED IN THE SIPI.
SO AS I SAID ON THURSDAY, THERE'S THE ADOPTION OF THE SKYPE, THE TWENTY ONE THROUGH.
THIRTY OR THE TWENTY TWO TO THIRTY ONE ZIP.
THE PRESENTATION OF THE SUPERINTENDENT'S PROPOSED BUDGET IS SCHEDULED FOR JANUARY SEVEN.
SO AS WE GET CLOSER TO THAT DATE, THERE WILL BE MORE INFORMATION THAT COMES OUT AND WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR DISTRIBUTION PRIOR PRIOR TO.
WELL, NOT NECESSARILY PRIOR TO BECAUSE THE SUPERINTENDENT SUPERINTENDENTS PRESENTATIONS, KIND OF THE FIRST GLANCE AT WHAT THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
BUT SOON THEREAFTER, THERE'S THE FIRST WORK SESSION ON THE COMBINED FUNDS, THE SCHEDULE FOR JANUARY THE 14TH, AS WELL AS THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ON THE COMBINED FUNDS BUDGET THAT IS SCHEDULED CURRENTLY FOR JANUARY THE TWENTY FIRST.
SO THAT'S A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHERE WE ARE WITH FCI 21, OUR PREPARATION AND OUR AND OUR THEME FOR FCI TWENTY TWO COMBINED FUN BUDGET PREPARATION, AS WELL AS SOME KEY DATES TO LOOK FORWARD TO FOR THE FBI.
GREAT FOLKS HAVE QUESTIONS FOR ROBERT.
IF TWO QUESTIONS OR ONE ON HI, ROBERT, IT'S REALLY GREAT TO SEE YOU, TWO QUESTIONS, ONE ON THE TWENTY ONE BUDGET AND ONE ON THE TWENTY TWO OR SO FOR THE TWENTY ONE BUDGET.
I KNOW THAT SOME OF THOSE FUNDS WERE DISTRIBUTED TO PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN THE AREA AND JUST WONDERING HOW MUCH OF THOSE FUNDS WERE DISTRIBUTED TO THE PUBLIC AND WHETHER YOU SPENT IT.
YEAH, YEAH. YEAH. SO ABOUT HOW MUCH OF IT.
I THINK IT WAS LIKE HALF A MILLION DOLLARS BUT MANY OF IT WAS CLOSE. I THINK IT WAS LIKE FOUR HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND MAYBE THAT WAS ALLOCATED OR THAT HAD TO BE DISTRIBUTED TO THE PRIVATE SCHOOL PARTNERS.
WE'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THEM AND THEY'VE IDENTIFIED THE AREAS IN WHICH THEY ARE SEEKING REIMBURSEMENT BECAUSE THE FOR THE PUBLIC I MEAN, THOSE PRIVATE SCHOOLS, THEY PRETTY MUCH HAD ALREADY SPENT MONEY ON CERTAIN THINGS.
AND SO THEY WERE ELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT.
AND I THINK WE'VE PUSHED THROUGH I THINK I SAW SOMETHING EARLIER TODAY.
SAINT RITA WAS LIKE THE LAST SCHOOL TO SUBMIT ALL OF THE DOCUMENTATION THAT FOR US TO PUSH THROUGH. SO I THINK IT WAS ROUGHLY FOUR HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.
AND SO PRIVATE SCHOOLS HAVE ACTUALLY UTILIZED THEIR FUNDING.
AND THAT'S IT. IS THAT IS THAT ALTHOUGH I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO SPEND THOSE FUNDS UNTIL TWENTY, TWENTY TWO, BUT EVERYTHING THAT REMAINS BELONGS TO BELONGS TO ISD.
SO THE PRIVATE SCHOOLS HAVE RECEIVED THEREFORE ALLOCATION ASSOCIATED WITH THEM FOR FORMULA. AND SO THEY'VE PRETTY MUCH SPENT THAT SORT OF REMAINING MONIES ARE GREAT.
AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION IS, WITH RESPECT TO THE TWENTY TWO BUDGET AND THE PUBLIC HEARING, I KNOW, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE TYPICALLY THOSE ARE PRETTY SPARSELY ATTENDED.
AND I'M JUST CURIOUS WHETHER YOUR TEAM HAS CONNECTED WITH THE COMMUNICATIONS TEAM TO TALK ABOUT WAYS TO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE BUDGET IN ADVANCE OF THAT HEARING SO THAT
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IT WOULD BE A TRUE OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS TO ENGAGE.AND I HAVE SEEN DISCUSSION IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE BUDGET, WHICH IS CONNECTED WITH THE REOPENING OF SCHOOLS.
BUT REGARDLESS OF WHY THE WHY THE INTEREST IS THERE, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SENDING OUT THAT INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC.
SO JUST CURIOUS WHETHER THAT IS.
IT'S INTERESTING THAT YOU ASK THAT.
WE ARE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE COMMUNICATION TEAM.
JULIA BERGHAUS, WE ACTUALLY MET WITH HER AND HELEN DOMENICK AND MYSELF.
I MET WITH THEM LAST WEEK IN PREPARATION FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT'S PRESENTATION.
AND SO WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IS A IS A GREAT COLLABORATION WITH THE BUDGET AND FINANCE TEAM, ALONG WITH COMMUNICATIONS EFFORTS TO TO PRESENT OUR BUDGET IN A WAY IN WHICH IT'S NOT SO DRIVEN AND THE DOLLARS AND CENTS.
BUT IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO TELL A STORY AS WELL AS TO TO KIND OF HIT TO YOUR POINT OF A BETTER WAY OF COMMUNICATING TO OUR PUBLIC.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON OUR WEBSITE, WE I BELIEVE WE'VE DONE A GREAT JOB IN FINDING WAYS TO COMMUNICATE ALL THE DIFFERENT MESSAGES THAT GO OUT SO AND ALL THE DIFFERENT PLATFORMS. SO IN WORKING WITH THE COMMUNICATIONS TEAM, I'M PRETTY SURE THIS IS GOING TO BE A VERY EXCITING TIME IN WHICH WE PRODUCE CONTENT AND INFORMATION IN A MANNER IN WHICH IS GOING TO BE WELL RECEIVED BY THE PUBLIC.
AND I SHOULD HAVE STARTED WITH KUDOS TO YOU ABOUT THE WEBSITE.
YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WHEN PEOPLE HAVE ASKED ME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BUDGET AND I'VE POINTED THEM TO THE WEBSITE, IT'S GOT SO MUCH INFORMATION.
IT'S REALLY CHOCK FULL OF INFO AND IT'S A TERRIFIC RESOURCE FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
SO I KNOW THAT KIND OF THING TAKES A LOT OF WORK.
RIGHT. I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE BENEFITS THAT WE'VE THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO TREAT DURING THE PANDEMIC IS FORCING US TO REASSESS AND REEVALUATE HOW WE DO THINGS.
AND SO JUST BEING AT HOME, I BELIEVE, HAS HELPED PEOPLE FOCUS ON THE THE VARIOUS WAYS IN WHICH WE CAN GET THE MESSAGE OUT, YOU KNOW, WORKING REMOTELY AND YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO PRINT OUT SO MANY DOCUMENTS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE RELYING ON THE TECHNOLOGY HAS REALLY BEEN A GODSEND IN HELPING US BE ABLE TO PRODUCE CONTENT AND PRODUCE OUR MESSAGING AND GET IT OUT IN A MUCH MORE EFFICIENT MANNER. OK, AND UNFORTUNATELY, I AM GOING TO HAVE TO DROP OFF, SO IF YOU DO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, COMMENTS, PLEASE FEEL PLEASE FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO ME AND I'LL TRY TO RESPOND AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT, ROBERT.
SO ARE OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE PROPOSED SCOPE OF WORK FOR THIS
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NEXT YEAR, AND I THINK WE HAD AN EXCELLENT START LAST YEAR ABOUT ALL THE INTERVIEWS WITH ALL THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS AND REALLY TRYING TO REFINE WHAT THE BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE WOULD BE FOCUSING ON AND HOW WE COULD BE OF THE BEST SUPPORT TO THE SCHOOL BOARD AS WE MOVE FORWARD.AND THEN MARCH HIT AND WE GOT SIDETRACKED WITH NOT BEING ABLE TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON SOME OF THOSE PLANS. BUT I DO THINK THERE WAS ONE REALLY KEY POINT THAT CAME ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE INTERVIEWS WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS, AS WELL AS THE SORT OF PAST COMMUNICATIONS THAT SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS HAD SHARED WITH RESPECT TO THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND HOW IT WORKS IN COORDINATION WITH THE CITY'S BUDGET PLAN.
AND SO THERE IS SOME CONSIDERATION FOR THIS YEAR'S BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING TO OUR COMMITTEE TO JUST HAVE A MUCH MORE REDUCED SCOPE AND TRY TO DELIVER A PRODUCT BY MAY TO THE SCHOOL BOARD THAT REALLY IS REFLECTIVE OF HOW THE HOW WE COULD MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT IMPROVING THE COORDINATION WITH THE CITY ON THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, BUT ALSO WHAT ARE NEARBY JURISDICTIONS DOING WITH RESPECT TO THIS AND FOR THOSE? I THINK WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR.
BUT JUST TO RECAP, YOU KNOW, WHAT ESSENTIALLY HAPPENS IS IT IS OUT OF ALIGNMENT IN THE PRESENTATION FROM WHEN THE SUPERINTENDENT PRESENTS HIS BUDGET AND WHEN THE CITY MANAGER PRESENTS THEIRS.
IN TERMS OF THE SEQUENCING, IT JUST THINGS SEEM TO BE ALREADY DONE BECAUSE THEY ARE AND TRYING TO TO GET MORE DECISION MAKING OPPORTUNITIES OR, YOU KNOW, COORDINATION,
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COMMUNICATION IN ADVANCE OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY MANAGER'S BUDGET SO THAT THE DECISION MAKING BODY, I.E., THE SCHOOL BOARD, HAS A SAY AS THE THE CITY WIDE BUDGET IS DEVELOPED. SO I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WANT TO COMMENT FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD'S PERSPECTIVE ON THIS AND THEN WE CAN KIND OF OPEN IT UP DISCUSSION FOR THE COMMITTEE TO TO WEIGH IN.SURE, THANKS. SO, YOU KNOW, THIS AS AS AARON WAS SAYING, KIND OF CAME ABOUT IN SORT OF GOING BACK AND LOOKING OVER THE INTERVIEWS WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS AND KIND OF, YOU KNOW, TEASING OUT, YOU KNOW YOU KNOW, IT MADE SENSE THIS YEAR CONSIDERING ALL THE THINGS THAT WE WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS YEAR AND WE STILL DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS YEAR.
AND THERE'S STILL THE POTENTIAL FOR, YOU KNOW, CHANGES IN THE BUDGET.
THERE COULD BE MORE FUNDING COMING IN.
THERE COULD BE UNEXPECTED SO THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN EVER, THIS WAS REALLY A YEAR TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFY MORE OF IDENTIFY A REAL KIND OF PROCESS QUESTION AND REALLY LET BACK KIND OF KIND OF LOOK AT THAT AND AND, YOU KNOW, TAKE THE TIME TO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE LOOK AT HOW SOME OTHER SCHOOL BOARDS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THEIR LOCAL FUNDING ORGANIZATION, HANDLES THE SORT OF PROCESS, YOU KNOW, THE SPECIFIC POINT THAT HAS CAUSED SOME FRICTION WITH SOME BOARD MEMBERS.
IT'S NOT A AND I SHOULD BE YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A UNANIMOUS CONCERN, BUT IT IS A CONSISTENT CONCERN OVER AT LEAST SOME SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS OVER MULTIPLE TERMS. SO, YOU KNOW, GOOD, GOOD, GOOD REASON TO ADDRESS IT, WHICH IS THAT I THINK THE ONE THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS ARE MOST AWARE OF.
BUT AGAIN, I THINK WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THIS GROUP IS I THINK YOU GUYS WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY KIND OF LOOK AT THE WHOLE BUDGET CALENDAR PROCESS.
IS IT JUST SO THE WAY THAT IT WORKS OUT WITH THE TIMING IS THAT THEY'RE THE THE THE THERE'S THERE'S A THERE'S A BIT OF BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN WHEN AS THE THE SCHOOL BOARD IS FINISHING THEIR PROCESS OF APPROVING THE BUDGET, THE CITY MANAGER IS RELEASING HIS PROPOSED BUDGET.
AND THERE'S THERE'S SOME CONCERN ON THE PART OF SOME SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS THAT, YOU KNOW, AS THE SCHOOL BOARD IS TRYING TO FINISH ITS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF A BUDGET, THAT THAT THAT THAT THAT HAVING THE CITY MANAGER VERY, VERY CLOSE TO THE FINAL DAYS OF THAT PROCESS, RELEASING HIS BUDGET, WHICH HAS A NUMBER ATTACHED TO THE SCHOOL FUNDING, YOU KNOW, CREATES A MOMENT OF.
WELL. YOU ARE WE ARE WE IS THE SCHOOL BOARD VOTING ON WHAT IT WHAT IT BELIEVES IS THE BUDGET OR IS THE SCHOOL BOARD VOTING ON WHAT IT BELIEVES THE SUPERINTENDENT WITH THE CITY MANAGER WILL FUND? I DON'T KNOW, I'M BEING VERY I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER SCHOOL, IF OTHER NEIGHBORING JURISDICTIONS HAVE THIS SAME MOMENT JUST BECAUSE OF THEIR TIMING OR IF THEY DON'T HAVE IT, BUT THEY'RE STILL ENDS UP BEING SOME.
CONSTERNATION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WHAT THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE IS PROPOSING OR A CITY MANAGER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S IN SOME WAYS IT'S A VERY INTERESTING QUESTION BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S VERY IT'S VERY CLEAR AND EXPLICIT THAT SCHOOL BOARDS, YOU KNOW, THEIR PRIMARY OVERSIGHT IS THE BUDGET AND POLICY.
WELL, THAT IS FUNDAMENTALLY TRUE.
THERE'S ALSO A BUDGET PROCESS IN WHICH THERE ARE DOLLAR AMOUNTS BASED OFF OF WHAT SUPERINTENDENTS ARE RECOMMENDING, WHAT CITY MANAGERS ARE RECOMMENDING, WHAT COUNTY ARE RECOMMENDING, AND AND IN PARTICULAR BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VIRGINIA, YOU KNOW,
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WE AS A SCHOOL BOARD DO NOT HAVE OUR SEPARATE FUNDING AVAILABILITY.EVERY BIT OF MONEY THAT WE ARE GETTING IS FROM THE CITY, JUST LIKE FOR A COUNTY.
EVERY BIT OF MONEY THAT THEY'RE GETTING IS FROM THE COUNTY WITH THAT VERY, VERY SMALL EXCEPTION OF OF THE FEDERAL IN THE STATE.
SO. YOU KNOW, I I THINK THIS IS REALLY JUST AN OPPORTUNITY TO THINK ABOUT THE CALENDAR AND, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS THERE IT WAS ALREADY STRONGLY ENCOURAGED TO.
ADJUST THE CALENDAR AND A COUPLE OF ADJUSTMENTS WERE MADE, BUT IT'S STILL HAD THAT OVERLAP MOMENT OF THE CITY MANAGER PROPOSING BEFORE THE SCHOOL BOARD FINISHED.
SO I THINK PEOPLE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT IS IT? COULD FURTHER ADJUSTMENTS BE MADE TO AVOID THAT OVERLAP MOMENT ARE THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT? YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS CAME UP, THE QUESTION OF THE BUDGET COMMUNITY. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES THIS YEAR.
BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT ALSO ANOTHER LOW ATTENDANCE MOMENT IS IN THE FALL.
IS THAT IS THAT SORT OF BUDGET MOMENT IN THE FALL? DO WE JUST NEED TO THINK ABOUT DIFFERENT REPOSITIONING, SOME OF THESE MOMENTS IN THE OVERALL BUDGET CALENDAR? SO SO THOSE ARE THOSE ARE KIND OF THE QUESTIONS.
AND WHAT YOU GUYS CAN DO IS YOU CAN REALLY BRING US, YOU KNOW, SOME RESEARCH.
HERE'S WHAT WE FOUND IN TERMS OF THE SCHEDULING AND THE SEQUENCING FROM MAYBE SOME NEARBY JURISDICTIONS. SINCE WE'RE A CITY THAT MIGHT BE GOOD IF WE CAN FIND A CITY AS ONE OF THE EXAMPLES AS WELL, NOT JUST THE NEARBY COUNTIES, BUT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I TRUST THIS TRUST THIS COMMITTEE. A LOT OF REALLY THOUGHTFUL PEOPLE HERE.
AND AND JUST COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION.
AND, YOU KNOW, AS AARON SAID, THE REASON FOR THE DELIVERY IN MAY RATHER THAN IN JUNE IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALREADY SPOKEN WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT AND WITH DOMINICK TURNER.
AND IT'S UNDERSTOOD THAT THE THIS AND THIS RECOMMENDATION WILL BE CONSIDERED.
AS PART OF WHAT THE STAFF WILL BE USING AS IT BRINGS FORWARD IN JUNE, THEIR PROPOSED BUDGET CALENDAR FOR NEXT YEAR, SO THAT'S THAT'S WHY WE'RE AIMING FOR THAT MAY DATE.
IT'S SO THAT THERE REALLY IS THIS DIRECT CONNECTION BETWEEN THE THE THE REPORT BEING DELIVERED AND AND IT AND IT DIRECTLY IMPACTING THE CALENDAR IN JUNE.
I'M GOING TO STOP TALKING NOW.
I THINK I'VE BEEN RAMBLING HERE.
DO DOES THE CITY MANAGER AND OUR CFO COORDINATE AT ALL ALONG THE WAY AS WELL? YEAH. AND I MEAN, ONE THING THAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO DO IS AS PART OF YOUR WORK IS THERE IS THE THERE IS THE PUBLISHED CALENDAR.
RIGHT. WHICH IS A VERY SPECIFIC MEETING DATES.
BUT THE REALITY IS, IS THAT THEY NEVER STOP TALKING TO EACH OTHER.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE REASON WHY, FOR EXAMPLE, ROBERT MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS A VERY PRELIMINARY TWO BY TWO ARE HAPPENING THIS MONTH, WHICH IS TYPICAL IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALREADY SOME FORECASTING GOING ON.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALREADY SOME PREPARATION BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, BOTH THE CITY AND THE SCHOOLS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PRODUCE BY THE YOU THE SCHOOLS BY THE END OF JANUARY.
AND THE CITY, YOU KNOW, IN THE FOLLOWING MONTH IS GOING TO HAVE TO PRODUCE, AS WE ALL KNOW, A VERY, VERY THICK BINDER WITH A LOT OF INFORMATION IN IT.
SO SO THAT WORK IS IS ALREADY WELL UNDERWAY.
AND I DO THINK IT WOULD BE VALUABLE FOR FOR YOU ALL TO UNDERSTAND AND TO BRING SOME CONTEXT INTO THAT AND MAYBE TALKING WITH, YOU KNOW, SETTING UP A TIME TO TALK WITH DOMINIC ABOUT THIS OR SOMETHING ABOUT THAT, ABOUT THAT.
I KNOW THAT HE'S HAVING CONVERSATIONS.
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SO SORT OF FROM FROM DOMINIC TO HIS CITY EQUIVALENT.I ALSO KNOW THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT IS MEETING EVERY OTHER WEEK WITH THE CITY MANAGER.
THEY TALK ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS, BUT CERTAINLY THERE IS SOME, YOU KNOW, EXCHANGE OF INFORMATION. YOU KNOW, ANOTHER KEY MOMENT IN THE FALL IS WHEN THEY HAVE THE THE ANNUAL OF THE CITY, HAS THE ANNUAL BUDGET RETREAT, YOU KNOW, EVEN AS EARLY AS AS THAT DATE, WHICH IS ALWAYS KIND OF THE BEGINNING OF NOVEMBER THIS YEAR.
IT WAS. YEAH, IT WAS THAT FIRST SATURDAY OF NOVEMBER.
I DIDN'T WATCH IT. I WAS I WAS CHECKING OTHER THINGS ON THAT FOR SATURDAY, NOVEMBER, YOU MIGHT RECALL. BUT BUT IT GAVE A REALLY GOOD OVERVIEW OF JUST KIND OF WHAT WAS BEING WHAT WAS HAPPENING. AND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, EACH YEAR THERE'S A THERE'S THERE'S SOME DIFFERENT HIGHLIGHTS.
OBVIOUSLY, THIS YEAR, A BIG PART OF IT WAS THE CORONAVIRUS AND THE IMPACT THAT IT'S HAD ON THE CITY BUDGET, WHICH BY EXTENSION WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE ON THE SCHOOL'S BUDGET.
BUT THAT'S INTENTIONAL AND IT'S INTENTIONAL BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY TRYING TO KIND OF LAY SOME OF THE GROUNDWORK OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
YOU KNOW, WHAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING AND MANIFESTING IN THE IN THE BUDGET LATER AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT MIGHT SURIMI.
TWO THINGS, ONE IS, FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, WHAT IS THE BIGGEST IMPEDIMENT TO THE TWO BUDGETS BEING ALIGNED? OK, BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN THE WAY IT HAS BEEN FOREVER, AT LEAST SINCE WE'VE HAD AN ELECTED BOARD. AND I MEAN, I SUSPECT THAT SOME OF IT IS IS THE WAY THE SCHOOL YEAR WORKS FOR THE SCHOOLS, THAT VERSUS THE YEAR WORKS FOR THE CITY.
BUT ANYWAYS, THE RATIONALE FOR WHY THE BUDGETS AREN'T ALIGNED.
AND THEN THE SECOND THING IS FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO PROPOSE HIS BUDGET BY HIM PROPOSING TO COUNCIL.
WHAT THE SCHOOLS SHOULD BE SPENDING IS MAKING IT LOOK LIKE THE SCHOOLS ARE A DEPARTMENT OF THE CITY THAT REPORT TO THE CITY MANAGER RATHER THAN THE SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT TO THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THEN ACROSS TO THE COUNCIL, BECAUSE THE COUNCIL IS THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN APPROVE AND RAISE MONEY.
BUT SO ARE THERE TWO LITTLE LINCHPINS THERE THAT I THINK THIS IS THE GREAT THING.
I MEAN, WE THIS QUESTION HAS BEEN ASKED AND BASICALLY WHAT WE'VE GOTTEN BACK IS, IS THAT IT CAN'T FIT, IT CAN'T WORK.
IT GOES TOO MUCH. AND I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR FOR FOR YOU ALL TO TO MAYBE TRY TO DIG A LITTLE BIT DEEPER INTO THAT.
IS IT IS IT THAT, YOU KNOW, IS IT BECAUSE WE'RE RUNNING ON A SCHOOL SCHEDULE AND IF WE DIDN'T HAVE SOMETHING LIKE WINTER BREAK, THAT WOULD GIVE US THE WEEK WE NEEDED? I MEAN, I'M I HAVE NO IDEA TO THE ANSWER THAT I'M THROWING THAT OUT AS SOMETHING.
IS IT IS IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BACKED UP A LOT AS A RESULT.
IT'S ALWAYS KIND OF CHALLENGING FOR ALEXANDRIA BECAUSE FOR FOR CPS, BECAUSE WE ARE THE LITERALLY THE FIRST SCHOOL DIVISION IN ORDER FOR US TO FOLLOW THE CALENDAR THAT WE HAVE AND THAT STILL HAS US ADOPTING THE BUDGET AFTER THE CITY.
AND MANAGER, WE'RE STILL ABSOLUTELY FIRST OF ALL OF THE NEIGHBORING JURISDICTIONS AND WHY THAT IS A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGING IS, IS THAT LITERALLY EVERY OTHER SCHOOL DIVISION IS LIKE, WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO? ARE THEY ARE THEY GOING TO GIVE THE TEACHERS A RAISE THIS YEAR? ARE THEY GOING TO. RIGHT. SO WE ALWAYS HAVE TO GO FIRST.
SO I AND I'M ASSUMING THAT PART OF THAT IS BASED OFF OF WHATEVER DECISIONS THE CITY HAS MADE AS TO AS TO THEIR OWN CALENDAR.
SO LIKE I, FOR EXAMPLE, WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW IS THIS CITY IS THE CITY'S BUDGET CALENDAR. DOES THE CITY START SIGNIFICANTLY EARLIER THAN OUR NEIGHBORING JURISDICTIONS OR IS IT THAT. NO, THEY'RE STARTING AT THE SAME TIME, BUT FOR SOME REASON, THEIR PROCESS GOES OUT LONGER? I THINK YOU'RE ASKING THE RIGHT YOU'RE ASKING THE RIGHT QUESTIONS.
AND I THINK YOU'VE IDENTIFIED THE THE THING THAT IS CAUSING THAT THAT MOMENT OF FRICTION IS THAT IF THERE'S A THERE'S A SENSE THAT THE THE THE THE OPTICS OF THAT, I MEAN, AT THE
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END OF THE DAY, NO MATTER WHAT.THE CITY, NEITHER THE CITY THAT NEITHER THE MAYOR, THE CITY COUNCIL OR THE CITY MANAGER CAN TELL US WHAT TO DO WITH THAT MONEY.
I MEAN, IF WE WANTED TO, WE COULD GO OUT AND BUY FIVE THOUSAND PINK FLAMINGOS.
BUT BUT BUT BUT WHAT THEY WHAT THEY CAN DO AND WILL DO AND MUST DO IS TELL US THIS IS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT ON THE CHECK THAT YOU WILL BE RECEIVING JULY 1ST.
I, I RECALL AT ONE OF THE BACK, THE JOINT BACK BEEF BACK MEETINGS THAT I ATTENDED, THAT THE SUBJECT CAME UP AND I WON'T REMEMBER THIS WITH MUCH SPECIFICITY.
BUT THE COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I RECALL THAT CAME UP WITH RESPECT TO THE TIMING WERE THE TIMING OF OUR ENROLLMENT NUMBERS OF ASP'S ENROLLMENT NUMBERS, THAT THOSE ARE NEEDED TO MAKE SOME SORT OF FINAL DECISIONS ABOUT BUDGET AND THAT THOSE CAME AT A TIME IN THE YEAR THAT THAT REALLY PUSHES AGAINST THE BUDGET SCHEDULE.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD DEFINITELY EXPLORE FURTHER.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING WHAT YOU SAY REHME ABOUT THE CITY BUDGET, BECAUSE MY RECOLLECTION IS THAT THE CITY PEOPLE SAID THAT THEY WERE SORT OF BOUND BY TIMING REQUIREMENTS ON THERE.
AND, YOU KNOW, SO MAYBE COMING FROM THE STATE, YOU KNOW, THEY FELT THEY COULDN'T PUSH THERE. AND THIS IS WHAT THEY SAID, THAT THEY COULDN'T PUSH THEIR SCHEDULE FURTHER BACK TO ACCOMMODATE THE ADDITIONAL TIME THE SCHOOL SYSTEM MIGHT NEED BECAUSE OF WHAT OTHER OF OUR OTHER PRESSURES THEY WERE UNDER FROM EXTERNAL SOURCES.
RIGHT. BUT BUT AGAIN, I MEAN, THAT'S ALL PRETTY VAGUE AND GENERAL.
BUT THOSE WERE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP WHEN WE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS EARLIER.
YEAH. AND I REALLY THAT'S THE KIND OF I FEEL LIKE WE ALWAYS KIND OF GOT TO THAT POINT AND PEOPLE SAID, YEAH, IT'S JUST TOO HARD.
AND THEN IT'S LIKE, BUT BUT WE REALLY WANT IT.
IT'S LIKE SO WE WE REALLY KIND OF HAVE TO GET TO A POINT WHERE AND WE WERE ABUNDANTLY CLEAR, WE THOUGHT, LET ME BE CANDID.
WE THOUGHT WE WERE BEING ABUNDANTLY CLEAR LAST SPRING, BUT APPARENTLY WE WEREN'T BECAUSE WE ONLY GOT ONE VERSION.
WE'VE WE'VE MADE IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THIS YEAR THAT THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE MORE THAN ONE VERSION OF A BUDGET CALENDAR.
YOU CANNOT JUST SAY HERE'S THE CALENDAR AND AND NOT GIVE US OTHER OPTIONS.
YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, NANCY.
I THINK YOU'RE GETTING SOME RESPONSES FROM THE CITY SIDE ABOUT WHAT THEY CONSIDER TO BE THEIR THEIR TIME CONSTRAINTS.
AND MAYBE THERE ARE SOME KEY DATA THINGS, YOU KNOW, THE CITY EQUIVALENT OF AN ENROLLMENT DEADLINE. THERE MIGHT BE SOME KIND OF THING THAT THEY'RE WAITING FOR TO FIGURE OUT ON THEIR SIDE. AGAIN, I JUST HAVE LIKE MY QUESTION IS, OK, SO, YOU KNOW, IF IF THIS IS WHEN WE GET OUR ENROLLMENT DATA, IS THAT ARE WE GETTING IT AT A SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT TIME FROM OTHER SCHOOL DIVISIONS? I MEAN, I JUST YOU KNOW, I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW BECAUSE I'M NOT DEEP IN THE WOODS ABOUT THE THE THE POLITICS OF FAIRFAX COUNTY OR ARLINGTON OR, YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF FREDERICKSBURG. I DON'T I DON'T HAVE A SENSE OF THAT.
IS THIS OVERLAP MOMENT ACTUALLY COMMON OR ARE WE REALLY THE ONLY ONES AND IF WE ARE, THEN WHAT CAN WE LEARN FROM LOOKING AT SAMPLES OF THESE OTHER JURISDICTIONS AND ABOUT THE WAY THAT THEY'RE DOING THEIR CALENDARS? BECAUSE IF THEY IF IF IF THEY'RE IF THEY'RE NOT HAVING THAT MOMENT, THEN SOMEHOW THEY'VE FIGURED IT OUT. SO WHAT'S DIFFERENT ABOUT THE WAY THAT THEY'RE DOING IT? WELL, IT'S ALSO WHAT'S WITHIN YOUR OWN CONTROL, RIGHT? SO I NEED YOU TALK ABOUT ENROLLMENT NUMBERS, UNLESS THEY'RE BEING GENERATED BY THE STATE, LIKE IF WE COLLECT ENROLLMENT NUMBERS, THE REALITY WOULD BE CHANGING THINGS TO TO BETTER MATCH WHEN YOU NEED THE DATA, RIGHT? EXACTLY. SO SO, I MEAN, I THAT I WOULD HOPE THAT THIS ANALYSIS OF THE OF THE OF OF MAYBE SOME OTHER JURISDICTIONS CALENDARS WOULD REVEAL THAT BECAUSE I IT MAKES SENSE TO ME THAT ENROLLMENT WOULD BE A KEY DATA PIECE IF IT TURNS OUT THAT SOME OF THESE OTHER DIVISIONS ARE DOING IT DIFFERENTLY.
AND PART OF THE REASON WHY IS, OH, YEAH, WELL, WE DO OUR ENROLLMENT THING IN, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER EARLIER. SO WE GET IT EARLIER, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT FOR ALL I KNOW, MAYBE A THERE WOULD BE.
YEAH, I I THINK THIS IS WE WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT DEEPER DOVE INTO THE NEXT
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LEVEL, AND THAT'S WHAT KIND OF EXCITES ME ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE I TRULY FEEL IS SOMEBODY THAT'S BEEN INVOLVED IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER IN IN SCHOOL BOARD ADVISORY GROUPS OVER THE YEARS. I REALLY FEEL LIKE THIS IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF THING THAT THAT ADVISORY COMMITTEES CAN BE REALLY USEFUL FOR, BECAUSE, QUITE FRANKLY, AT THIS POINT, THE STAFF DOES NOT HAVE THE BANDWIDTH OR THE INCLINATION TO REALLY TACKLE THIS.BUT THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS REALLY INDICATED THAT WE NEED WE NEED WE NEED A LOT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS BECAUSE IT CONTINUES TO BE.
YOU KNOW, IT CAN BE IT CONTINUES TO BE A POINT OF CONFUSION AND CONSTERNATION.
IT'S ENTIRELY POSSIBLE THAT THERE'S A VERSION OF THIS WHERE AFTER YOU GUYS HAVE DONE THIS WORK AND YOU'VE COME OUT WITH YOUR REPORT.
THERE'S A VERSION OF THIS WHERE IT'S NO TURNS OUT THIS IS WHY THE CALENDAR IS THE WAY IT IS, AND THIS IS WHY IT NEEDS TO BE THE WAY IT IS.
AND HERE'S WHY. WHICH IT MAY NOT BE EXACTLY THE ANSWER THAT CERTAIN SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS WERE HOPING FOR, BUT NOW THEY WOULD KNOW WHY.
RIGHT. AND PERHAPS INSTEAD WE CAN THINK OF.
YOU KNOW, FROM THE COMMUNICATION END, ARE THERE ARE WAYS THAT IF WE CAN'T ACTUALLY MANIPULATE THE CALENDAR DATES, ARE THERE WAYS WE CAN WORK ON THE COMMUNICATION THING THAT WOULD HELP PROTECT AND REINFORCE THE AUTONOMY AND SEPARATE NATURE OF SCHOOL BOARD VERSUS THE CITY? SO I KNOW THAT THE PROCESS HAS GOTTEN A LOT CLOSER, YOU KNOW, SO I MEAN, AND 12 YEARS AGO IT WAS PRETTY BROAD DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO.
YES. NOW EVERYBODY'S BEEN WORKING TOWARDS SOMETHING THAT'S MORE CLOSELY ALIGNED.
HOW I MEAN, HOW MUCH OF AN ISSUE IS IT TODAY THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD'S BUDGET IS THIS AND THE CITY'S BUDGET IS THAT? I GUESS WHAT I WOULD SAY IS I THINK IN TERMS OF LIKE.
COMMUNITY, I MEAN, TO YOUR POINT.
I MEAN, YEAH, WHO I CAN REMEMBER SOME VERY EXCITING BUDGET YEARS WHERE THERE WAS, QUITE FRANKLY, A LOT OF CONFLICT BECAUSE THERE WAS NOT I MEAN, THERE WAS THERE WAS SORT OF CONFLICT WITHIN ASP'S ABOUT DIFFERENT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, DEBATING ABOUT WHERE MONEY SHOULD GO. BUT BUT THEN ALSO, TO YOUR POINT, THERE WAS ALSO IT WASN'T JUST A QUESTION OF THE TIMING. IT WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE SUPERINTENDENT INTENDED WOULD ROLL OUT A BUDGET AND IT WOULD BE HERE AND THE CITY MANAGER WOULD ROLL OUT A BUDGET AND WOULD BE HERE.
AND WE'D BE TALKING ABOUT THESE, YOU KNOW, REALLY, REALLY GIANT GAPS.
SO THE QUESTION YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
AND THAT IN THAT THAT'S NOT REALLY OUR ISSUE RIGHT NOW.
I THINK THE CONCERN IS HOW DO I PUT THE.
SO, I MEAN, IT'S STRICTLY ON THE TIMING, YOU, THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THE CITY MANAGER AND COUNCIL AND SCHOOL BOARD HAVE DIFFERENT WAYS OF VIEWING.
WHAT THE BUDGET SHOULD BE IS IS A SEPARATE ISSUE FROM JUST I MEAN, JUST HOW MUCH OF AN ISSUE IS IT RIGHT NOW FOR THE BUDGETS TO BE ALIGNED THE WAY THEY ARE? I WILL TELL YOU THAT THAT THAT I'VE BEEN DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN TWO SCHOOL BOARDS AND A CLOSE VIEWER OF OF OF OF TWO BOARDS BEFORE THAT.
AND THERE WAS ALWAYS AT LEAST SOME SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS THAT, AS FAR AS BUDGET PROCESS WAS WINDING DOWN, WAS EXPRESSING FRUSTRATION ABOUT HOW THEY.
I THINK YOU WORDED IT REALLY WELL, SEAN, THE WAY THAT THERE'S THIS PERCEPTION THAT THAT BECAUSE OF THE TIMING THAT IT IT FEELS OR THE OPTICS OF IT ARE THAT THE CITY MANAGER TOLD THE SCHOOL BOARD WHAT THE BUDGET WOULD BE.
IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN AVOID THAT OBJECT MOMENT, WHICH I THINK BOTHERS SOME PEOPLE MORE AND SOME PEOPLE LESS, BUT IF WE CAN FIX IT, THEN IT BOTHERS NOBODY.
SO OR YOU CAN AT LEAST EXPLAIN IT LIKE THAT'S THE PART WHERE WE CAN SAY, LIKE, I THINK BECAUSE WHAT PEOPLE DON'T SEE AND WHAT YOU'RE WHAT I THINK YOU'RE REFERENCING, SEAN, IS
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LIKE THERE IS THAT COLLABORATION THAT HAPPENS BECAUSE, YEAH, TEN YEARS AGO THERE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THE SCHOOLS BUDGET AND IT WOULD BE UP HERE IN THE CITY MANAGER'S BUDGET WOULD BE DOWN HERE. AND IT WAS BECAUSE, LIKE WHAT I UNDERSTOOD IS THE SCHOOL FELT LIKE THEY HAD TO GET HERE TO GET TO THAT LEVEL.YES. HAD TO BE VERY INFLATIONARY AND INCLUDE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE MAYBE COMPLETELY UNREALISTIC JUST BECAUSE FOLKS, THEY HAD NO EXPECTATION OF BEING CONSULTED OR BEING ALIGNED WITH THE CITY.
AND I DO LIKE JUST OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS HAVE SEEN LIKE WE ARE LIKE THE SCHOOLS ARE CONSULTED IN THAT DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
BUT I UNDERSTAND AS A SEPARATE ELECTED BOARD, OF COURSE, YOU HAVE YOUR OWN CONCERNS ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO DO WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU, TO THE MEMBERS, AS WELL AS THE BOARD.
AND I THINK TO THAT YOU DESIGN PROCESSES TO ACCOMMODATE WHATEVER THE REALITY IS ON THE GROUND. SO JUST BECAUSE THE REALITY NOW IS THAT THE PROCESS IS COLLABORATIVE AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GIVE AND TAKE AND ALL OF THAT, THERE MAY BE OTHER YEARS WHERE THAT'S NOT THE CASE. AND SO YOU WANT THE PROCESS TO BE SEQUENCED SUCH THAT IT ACCOMMODATES THE SCHOOL BOARD HAVING THE AUTONOMY TO SET ITS OWN BUDGET BEFORE IT'S BEEN SORT OF NEGOTIATED OR OR DICTATED, I GUESS, BY THE CITY MANAGER.
AND THE OTHER THING I'LL JUST SAY IS THAT I KNOW THIS YEAR AT LEAST SEVERAL BOARD MEMBERS VOTED AGAINST THE BUDGET CALENDAR.
I THINK IN PART BECAUSE OF FRUSTRATION ABOUT THIS IS WHY.
YEAH, EXACTLY. SO SO, YOU KNOW, IT MATTERS A LOT TO CERTAIN PEOPLE AND BRING ME THAT.
I CAN JUST AS AN OBSERVER, IT JUST COMES UP EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
AND SO WHETHER IT'S A BIG DEAL OR NOT, PRACTICALLY AND ALL OF THAT, IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE A GREAT SERVICE FOR US TO DIG INTO IT AND RESOLVE IT SO THAT THERE'S SOME INFORMATION AND DATA ON THE ISSUES SO THAT IT'S NOT A WOULDA SHOULDA COULD A TYPE OF SITUATION. BUT IT'S BEEN EXAMINED.
IT'S BEEN ADDRESSED. AND THEN THE TRADE OFFS HAVE TO BE WEIGHED ON ON HOW IT WILL ALL SHAKE OUT. BUT BUT IT IS SO ME NOW.
IT'S ONLY LIKE A COUPLE OF DAYS.
SO IT'S LITERALLY WITHIN THE SAME I MEAN, WITHIN THE SAME WEEK IT WAS WHAT THEY KNOW IS NOT QUITE LIKE YOU.
YOU DON'T WANT THE SCHOOL BOARD VOTING ON IT LIKE THE DAY BEFORE THE CITY MANAGER RELEASES HIS BUDGET. SO IT'S WANT MORE WIGGLE ROOM THAN THAT.
BUT THE POINT IS, IT'S PRETTY CLOSE.
SO THERE'S IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S IF IT'S POSSIBLE, IF IT'S AN IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO PEOPLE, THERE MAY BE SOME MAYBE AN ABILITY TO ADDRESS IT IN A WAY THAT WILL SATISFY EVERYONE.
MAYBE NOT, BUT IT'S CLOSER THAN IT HAS BEEN BEFORE.
YEAH, I JUST WANT TO ADD I AGREE, I MEAN, DEFINITELY, IF IT'S A CONCERN, I CAN SEE THE OPTICS ISSUE FOR SURE.
I MEAN, IF I'M ON THE BOARD, I'M TRYING TO APPROVE.
AND IF IT'S ALREADY THE BUDGET IS LIKE I CAN SEE DEFINITELY THAT I'LL FIX ISSUE.
IT'S A LITTLE PUZZLING TO ME THAT THAT GUY'S NOT BEING EVEN THOUGH JUST BEING RAISED IT WAS NOT AGAINST A RESOLUTION WAS AND FOUND ALL THESE YEARS.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY PUZZLING PART.
BUT THAT'S MY OWN SORT OF THINKING THROUGH ABOUT IT.
WELL, I THINK NANCY KIND OF REALLY HIT ON IT THAT THE PROCESSES OVER THE YEARS HAVE BEEN MORE PERSONALITY DRIVEN THAN SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN WORKED OUT AND LOOKED AT FROM A RATIONAL PERSPECTIVE AND THEN COME AND SAY, OK, HOW CAN WE REALLY GET THESE TWO ENTITIES ALIGNED SO THAT THE BUDGET PROCESS WORKS BETTER FOR EVERYBODY? I ALSO THINK NOBODY NOBODY CARED ABOUT IT BEING ALIGNED BECAUSE IT WAS IT WAS TRULY A MORE ADVERSARIAL APPROACH.
IT WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, IN THIS CORNER IS IN THIS CORNER, YOU KNOW, THE CITY, IT REALLY WAS BECAUSE IT WAS DIFFERENT.
SO SO I THINK WE WE HAD TO WORK THROUGH A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT HAD TO GET TO TO TO TO YOUR POINT, WE HAD TO WORK THROUGH A LOT OF OTHER THINGS, YOU KNOW, FIRST.
SO THIS IS A LONG STANDING ISSUE.
BUT I THINK THERE WERE SOME OTHER THERE WAS SOME OTHER MORE DIRE THINGS THAT KIND OF NEEDED TO GET WORKED THROUGH FIRST.
AND I THINK WE WERE AGAIN, IT'S SORT OF WEIRD.
IT'S LIKE WE WE WE SAW ALL THIS.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU WERE WATCHING IT IN KIND OF REAL TIME, YOU REALLY SAW THIS SIGNIFICANT SHIFT IN ALL THIS PROGRESS.
AND LIKE A LOT MORE ABOUT THIS, YOU COULD SEE THE CITY AND THE SCHOOL STAFF SITTING NEXT
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TO EACH OTHER. AND YOU COULD YOU COULD TELL THAT THEY WERE MORE COLLABORATIVE AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND THE TONE OF OF JOINT MEETINGS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.BUT THEN YOU GOT ALL THE WAY UP TO THIS CALENDAR THING AND WE WERE LIKE, OK, BUT WHY IS THIS ONE THING? AND EVERYONE JUST KIND OF WENT ON I.
LET. AND I'M LIKE, LITERALLY, I'M ARTICULATING THAT'S ABOUT AS DETAILED AS THEY COULD GET ANY ANSWER. SO IT'S IT'S I HAVE FAITH IN THE STAFF, BUT I, I, I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT'S GOING TO REALLY PUSH THIS FORWARD IS SOMETHING LIKE THE SCHOOL BOARD ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS IS DOING THIS.
AND NOW WE NEED TO YOU KNOW, THEY.
WE WE NEED TO YOU KNOW, THEY NEED THEY'RE DOING REPORT, THEY NEED TO INTERVIEW YOU OR WE NEED TO HAVE THAT KIND OF THING TO GET SOME SOME MORE ROBUST ANSWERS.
OK, WELL, THANKS FOR THE CONTEXT AND THANKS FOR COMMENTS FROM FOLKS.
SO I GUESS FROM THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A REASONABLE APPROACH THIS YEAR? I THINK WE'RE OBVIOUSLY JUST TRYING TO BE A LOT MORE FOCUSED AND PROVIDE SOMETHING OF VALUE. THAT WAS ONE THING THAT CAME AWAY FROM OUR CONVERSATIONS LAST YEAR WITH THE BOARD.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, INTERNALLY, IS THAT WITH JUST THE COMMITTEE IS TRYING TO TO FIND SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, MEETS THEIR NEEDS AND IS A VALUABLE USE OF VOLUNTEER TIME.
AND SO PRODUCING A PRODUCT SEEMS TO CHECK THE BOX, BUT JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS ARE IN ALIGNMENT ON KIND OF THAT APPROACH FOR THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
SO AND WE WERE FORTUNATE THAT THIS WAS ONE OF THE OBJECTIVES FROM LAST YEAR.
SO NANCY HAS A A WORKPLAN, SOMEWHAT DRAFTED, YOU KNOW, FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF SOME STEPS. BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE WILL WANT TO IDENTIFY THE JURISDICTIONS THAT WE WOULD THINK ARE MOST ADVANTAGEOUS FOR US TO KIND OF LOOK AT THEIR BUDGET CYCLE.
AND THEN, I GUESS RAYMI JUST EVEN A QUESTION.
I'M ASSUMING THAT IT'S IT SHOULD BE FOCUSED EXCLUSIVELY ON VIRGINIA JUST BECAUSE OF THE DILLON STATE RULE.
THAT'S MY INITIAL I MEAN, THAT'S MY INITIAL REACTION TO THIS.
I MEAN, I'M WILLING TO BE CONVINCED IF ONE OF YOU GUYS COMES UP WITH SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK. BUT BUT I YEAH, I DON'T THINK SO. BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE AS WELL AND ALSO NOT WELL VERSED IN ALL THINGS. DILLON, I SHOULD CALL JUSTIN WILSON AND ASK HIM.
I WISH I WOULD SAY THE DILLON RULE DEFINITELY SETS US APART FROM MANY, MANY OTHERS.
AND NOT ONLY THAT, AGAIN, I NEWT, I DO KNOW THAT SOME OF THIS IS TIED TO LIKE SPECIFIC DATA GETTING RELEASED.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE APPLICABLE IN VIRGINIA TO LOOK AT THINGS WHEN HERE'S WHEN THE STATE RELEASES ITS INFORMATION.
AND SO YOU WOULD THAT WOULD APPLY ACROSS THE BOARD AND IT WOULD JUST BE EASIER IF YOU STUCK WITH VIRGINIA.
OK, AND, YOU KNOW, I HEARD YOUR REQUEST ALSO THAT WE TRY TO LOOK FOR A CITY IN THAT.
AND I'M ASSUMING THAT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR US, OR AT LEAST SOMEWHAT EASIER TO ALSO LOOK IN ADJACENT COUNTIES RIGHT NOW LIKE ARLINGTON AND FAIRFAX, JUST BECAUSE OF THE REALITY THAT THEY'RE ALL KIND OF THEY'RE YOUR COMPETITORS ALSO.
AND WE'RE TRYING TO RECRUIT AND RETAIN STAFF.
AND SO I THINK THE POINT THAT YOU HAD MADE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TAKING A STAND ON STEP INCREASES IN OTHERS BEFORE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE OTHER SURROUNDING JURISDICTIONS REALLY DOES MAKE AN INFLUENCE OR INFLUENCE AS FOLKS ABOUT WHETHER THEY TAKE THE JOB OPPORTUNITY OR NOT FOR SOME FOLKS.
ARE JUST, YEAH, INCLUDING FALLS CHURCH.
NOT TO OH, YEAH, THAT'S GREAT.
RIGHT. SO THAT THAT THAT YOU COULD GET THE YOU COULD GET THE CITY ONE THAT WAY.
AND NOW I DON'T I'M REALLY DEFERRING TO HIS EXPERTIZE.
I THINK MAYBE BECAUSE THIS IS MORE OF A CALENDAR TIMING THING, THE CITY OF FALLS CHURCH WOULD BE FINE SOMETIMES DEPENDING ON WHAT DATA WE'RE LOOKING AT OR WHAT TOPIC WE'RE LOOKING AT. WE HAVE TO TRY AND FIND A COMPARABLY SIZED SCHOOL DIVISION OR SOMETHING MORE DEMOGRAPHICALLY ALIGNED.
I AM I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT THOSE KINDS OF THINGS APPLY FOR THIS TYPE OF EXERCISE.
I'M JUST LETTING YOU ALL KNOW THAT THAT SOMETIMES IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHEN WE'RE DOING OTHER KIND OF COMPARATIVE STUDIES.
WE CAN TAKE IT. I MEAN, WE CAN TAKE A LOOK JUST AROUND AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE,
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TOO, THAT MIGHT BE CLOSER IN SIZE, BECAUSE I DO KNOW THEY'RE SIGNIFICANTLY SMALLER.OK, WHILE THE OTHERS ARE SIGNIFICANTLY BIGGER, THE CITY OF RICHMOND RIGHT FROM WRONG, BECAUSE I KNOW WE DON'T PRODUCE THIS DATA ANYMORE, BUT WE USED TO.
CITY OF ALEXANDRIA HAS A HECK OF A.
TRANSIENT POPULATION OF STUDENTS, MUCH MORE SO THAN OTHER COMMUNITIES AROUND US, AND THAT HAS ALWAYS MADE IT MORE IMPORTANT FOR US TO GET THAT ENROLLMENT DATA.
BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY KIDS ARE GOING TO REPORT TO SCHOOL THE FIRST WEEK OF SEPTEMBER.
I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD POINT.
AND I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THESE THINGS WHERE AS YOU START INVESTIGATING THIS AND YOU HEAR FROM, YOU KNOW, IF THEY SAY, WELL, OUR BIGGEST THING THAT WE'RE WAITING ON IS THE ENROLLMENT, THE NEXT LOGICAL QUESTION IS, WILL, WHEN WHY IS OUR ENROLLMENT DONE? WHEN IT'S DONE? AND THAT WOULD BE I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, THE PERSON FOR THAT WOULD BE MARIA RUNKEL.
LOOK AT YOU GUYS. I LOVE TALKING TO MARIA.
SHE'S LIKE I MEAN, LIKE IT'S A RUNNING JOKE THAT SHE'S LIKE EVERYONE'S FAVORITE PRESENTATION BECAUSE SHE DOES SUCH A GOOD JOB WITH THE ENROLLMENT DATA.
BUT BUT, SEAN, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
AND IT'S IT'S I JUST DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO I IT IT IT SEEMS VERY POSSIBLE TO ME THAT THAT REALLY COULD BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT MAKES US DIFFERENT.
AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, IS THAT WHY OUR ENROLLMENT DATA MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, ON A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT TIMELINE THAN OTHERS? YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE WE'RE REALLY FORTUNATE IN THAT DESPITE SOME OF THOSE CHALLENGES WE NOW HAVE. I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF AGAIN, IT'S SORT OF A POINT OF PRIDE COMPARED TO OUR NEIGHBORING JURISDICTIONS WHO THEIR ENROLLMENT IN PAST YEARS, THEIR ENROLLMENT HAS BEEN THEIR ENROLLMENT PROJECTION HAS BEEN.
OURS IS NINETY NINE POINT NINE NINE NINE NINE NINE NINE NINE NINE NINE PERCENT ACCURATE.
SO, LIKE, WE'VE WE'VE REALLY BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT.
BUT IS IS IS MAYBE THE WAY THAT WE DO THAT IS WE TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER.
I DON'T KNOW. I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GREAT QUESTION.
THAT'S WHY I'M SO GLAD THIS COMMUNITY IS DOING THIS, BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE ASKING ALL THE RIGHT QUESTIONS.
WELL, REACTIONS ARE NINETY NINE POINT NINETY NINE PERCENT.
THEN FOR BUDGET PURPOSES, YOU REALLY NEED TO WAIT UNTIL YOU HAVE THE PRECISE ENROLLMENT NUMBERS BECAUSE YOUR PROJECTIONS HAVE BEEN SO ACCURATE THAT MAYBE THAT'S NOT AS IMPORTANT AS IT USED.
SO I THINK FROM OUR NEXT STEPS WOULD BE REALLY FLESHING OUT THE WORK PLAN AND I THINK A DEGREE OF DIVIDE AND CONQUERING FROM, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS EACH OF US COULD TAKE JURISDICTION ONCE WE ACTUALLY SAY, LIKE, THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS OR TRYING TO ANSWER IN A VERY SPECIFIC FORMAT.
AND IT ALSO SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PERHAPS ENGAGE WITH SOME OTHER FOLKS FROM THE CITY SIDE OF THE HOUSE JUST TO ASK FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVES TO ABOUT THE SEQUENCING OF EVENTS AND HOW IT'S COME TO THEM OR HOW IT HOW IT GETS CONVEYED ON THEIR SIDE OF THE HOUSE WITH RESPECT TO THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT TIMELINE, BECAUSE I DO THINK, YOU KNOW, TO THE EXTENT AT THE POINT YOU MADE SHAWN AROUND AND ROAMING AROUND PERSONALITIES IN THE PAST, THAT AND THE POINT NANCY MADE AROUND ENSURING THAT IT IS BASED ON A PROCESS, THAT IT'S IRRESPECTIVE OF WHO'S IN THE SEAT, BUT THAT THERE IS A THROUGH LINE FOR A PROCESS PIECE.
SO I'M OPEN TO HEARING LIKE IT SHOULD BE.
I'M HAPPY TO TAKE A STAB AT A AT A FIRST KIND OF LIKE THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE WANTING TO ASK IN TERMS OF LIKE AN INTERVIEW FORM OR A DISCOVERY SHEET.
AND THEN WE CAN KIND OF DIG IN NEXT MONTH'S ON, YOU KNOW, THE THE POTENTIAL PROCESS OF WHICH WHO WANTS WHAT CITY OR CAN DO THAT VIA EMAIL, TOO.
I'M JUST REALLY KIND OF IT THAT IT'S ALREADY DECEMBER 15TH AND PEOPLE LIKELY HAVE OTHER THINGS THAT THEY'LL BE FOCUSING ON NEXT WEEK AND THE WEEK IN BETWEEN.
AND DO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE VALUABLE FOR US TO TALK, AT LEAST TO DOMINIC, IF NOT TO SOMEBODY IN ON THE CITY SIDE BEFORE WE FINALIZE THOSE QUESTIONS, JUST TO UNDERSTAND WHAT
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THE PRESSURE POINTS ARE? BECAUSE THOSE WOULD BE I THINK AREAS WOULD WANT TO PROBE WHEREVER ELSE WE GO.I THINK THAT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION AND REALLY TRY TO MAYBE USE JANUARY'S MEETING AS AN INTERVIEW FOR TO TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF ASK DOMINIC FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE ON THOSE BUDGET PRESSURE POINTS OR THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND THEN ON, IF POSSIBLE, TRYING TO GET THE OPPOSITE SIDE AND HEARING FROM THE CITY, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY WHAT THEY SEE AND IF NOT SOMEONE FROM THE CITY AT LEAST, AND OBVIOUSLY CAFES, DENZEL WOULD BE FROM B FACT, I'M SURE WOULD BE WILLING TO GIVE A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW.
YEAH, I WAS GOING TO ASK REMY WHETHER YOU THOUGHT WE COULD ACCOMPLISH THAT CITY GOAL BY TALKING TO MAYBE JESSE O'CONNELL AND KATHY STENZEL, WHO ARE THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR OF VAC, OR WHETHER IT WOULD BE MORE BENEFICIAL FOR US TO TALK DIRECTLY WITH THE CITY STAFF.
AND MAYBE DOMINIC WOULD SUGGEST A COUNTERPART ON THE OTHER SIDE TO TALK TO THEM.
MY SENSE IS, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S HELPFUL FOR B FACT TO BE AWARE THAT WE'RE DOING THIS.
AND I CAN CONFIRM THAT THEY ARE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WITH KATHY, KATHY KNOWS THAT THIS IS SORT OF OUR PLAN FOR THIS YEAR.
BUT IT IT DOES SEEM LIKE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'LL JUST SAY WHEN WHEN WHEN THIS GOT MENTIONED TO KATHY, SHE WAS LIKE, YEAH, I THOUGHT THE FAT COW ALREADY RECOMMENDED THAT WORKING ON THE ALIGNMENT AND STUFF.
AND IT WAS LIKE, YEAH, WITH THE STAFF BASICALLY SAID BACK IS YEAH, WE WE DID.
AND LOOK, IT'S IT'S BETTER NOW, RIGHT.
IT'S CLOSE. RIGHT. AND IT'S LIKE, OK, SO SO IT DOES SOUND LIKE IF WE'RE REALLY GOING TO GET TO THAT, THAT NEXT LEVEL, I DO THINK MAYBE THE THE MORE APPROPRIATE THING IS, IS, IS, IS, IS YOU TALKING TO A STAFF PERSON BECAUSE THEN YOU, THEN YOU.
AND I CAN ASK DOMINICK A RECOMMENDATION OVER ON THAT SIDE AND THEN KIND OF ARRANGE FOR IF IT WORKS FOR HIS SCHEDULE TO JOIN US NEXT MONTH.
I THINK IT'S FOR FOLKS ON THE PHONE.
DOES THIS SORT OF THIRD TUESDAY WORK? PREVIOUSLY WE USED TO MEET ON THE SECOND TUESDAYS, BUT THAT WAS ALWAYS IN CONFLICT WITH THE MIDDLE SCHOOL PTA.
AND BOTH NANCY AND I HAVE MIDDLE SCHOOLERS.
AND SO YOU CAN NEVER KIND OF GET THAT PERSPECTIVE AS WELL.
FINE BY ME, THOUGH, I LET ME LOOK FOR A SECOND, SO I HAVE FOR MY WORK, I HAVE MEETINGS ON TUESDAY NIGHTS, BUT BUT ONLY LIKE EVERY SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS.
SO I'M KIND OF BUSY TO SEE IF ANY OF THEM CONFLICT ON THE THIRD.
NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE ON MY CALENDAR YET OR NOT, I JUST SAID THIS TO YOU, OK, BUT IF IT'S NOT IN JANUARY, MAYBE WE'LL STICK WITH THE JANUARY ONE AND THEN WHICH WOULD BE THE THIRD. ACTUALLY, THAT'S KIND OF AN IMPORTANT DAY IN JANUARY THIS YEAR.
YES. I'M GOING TO BE PROMOTING THAT.
WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT IS WE HAVE TO HAVE A ZOOM PLATFORM IN ORDER TO REVEAL SOMETHING.
SO IF YOU COULD GIVE ME A LIST OF DAYS, I CAN GET BACK TO YOU WITH WHETHER OR NOT THOSE DATES ARE AVAILABLE. WE HAVE TWO PLATFORMS WE CAN USE.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEONE ALREADY IS USING ONE, WE CAN TRY TO USE THE OTHER.
OK. AND AARON, IT ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE I DON'T HAVE ANY TO ANYTHING THAT LOOKS LIKE I DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE ANY CONFLICTS ON THOSE THIRD TUESDAYS LIKE OTHER TUESDAYS MIGHT BE A PROBLEM FOR ME, BUT I THINK THE THIRD WOULD WORK.
TUESDAY IS THE DAY BEFORE INAUGURATION DAY, RIGHT? OH, OK. YEAH, GREAT.
AS I'M THINKING, JANUARY 20TH HAS BEEN BURNED INTO MY HEAD HERE.
SO IT WOULD PEOPLE BE OK WITH THAT BECAUSE THEN I WILL GO AHEAD AND REACH OUT TO DOMENICK TO TRY TO GET HIM AS OUR SPECIAL GUEST.
AND THEN WE'LL WE CAN GATHER SOME QUESTIONS THAT WE PARTICULARLY WANT TO ASK OF HIM AT OUR NEXT MEETING VIA EMAIL.
AND WHAT I CAN DO, AARON, IS I ACTUALLY KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO DO A SCOPE OF WORK.
SO I WOULD BE HAPPY TO UPDATE THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT I DID BEFORE, JUST TO OUTLINE THIS JUST IN GENERAL TERMS. AND MAYBE WE CAN DEPENDING ON WHEN I GET IT DONE, I GUESS I CAN CIRCULATED BY EMAIL AND WE CAN EITHER DISCUSS IT IN JANUARY OR IF PEOPLE ARE OK WITH IT, WE CAN JUST SEND AN EMAIL. ALSO, EVEN THOUGH LAST YEAR WAS CUT SHORT, WE DO HAVE FOR AN END OF YEAR REPORT AS
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WELL, JUST THE OK, YOU COULD JUST STATE WHAT YOU STARTED WITH AND WHERE YOU TURN IN THE SCOPE OF WORK AND THEN CORONAVIRUSES.SO WE WERE LOOKING TO SEE WHAT NANCY WAS FOR.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT THAT YEAH.
IT WAS WAY MORE FORMAL THAN WE HAD EVER HAD.
ACTUALLY DRAFTED A MEMO THAT WE NEVER SENT THAT WAS THAT ACTUALLY HAD A LOT OF INFORMATION. SO SO WE CAN CHECK THAT BOX TO THAT.
AND WHAT I WOULD SAY IS JUST TO, YOU KNOW, LIGHTEN THE LOAD A LITTLE.
I MEAN, I, I CAN CONFIRM SCOPE OF WORKS ARE ONE HUNDRED PERCENT LIKE A ONE PAGER AND THAT ONE PAGER IS NOT LIKE TWO HUNDRED.
I MEAN IT'S NOT IT'S MORE LIKE A COUPLE BULLETS.
BULLETS. YES. IT REALLY IT'S AND AND AND AND ALSO THIS WON'T BE THE FIRST TIME, I MEAN AT THIS POINT, I MEAN I PURPOSELY, YOU KNOW, ANNOUNCED AT THE MEETING, I INDIVIDUALLY REACHED OUT TO THE I MEAN, THE BOARD KNOWS THAT THIS IS THE PLAN.
YOU KNOW, THE THE THE SENIOR LEADERSHIP KNOWS THIS IS THE PLAN.
YEAH, I CAN SEND YOU SOME EXAMPLES IF YOU LIKE.
GENERALLY, MY RULE OF THUMB IS WHEN YOU'RE SCROLLING, WHEN YOU'RE MAKING THEM SCROLL, UNLESS THEY'RE READING ON A FIRST CLASS.
AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I CAN SPEAK ABOUT MY WORK.
YOU GOT TO GET IT OUT AND DONE IT ON THE FIRST TWO PARAGRAPHS.
ALL RIGHT. WELL, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TONIGHT, YOU KNOW, AND THE RECOMMITMENT AND I THINK WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE OF VALUE TO THE SCHOOL BOARD THIS YEAR.
AND IF THERE IS NOT ANY OTHER, IS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS? I SHOULD PROBABLY PHRASE IT AS A POSITIVE QUESTION.
I WE JUST SAY ON THE RECORD THAT THERE WERE NO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IN ATTENDANCE.
YES. THERE WERE NO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IN ATTENDANCE THIS EVENING.
I JUST HAVE ONE POINT ON THIS.
I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING THIS YEAR IS IS REALLY RELEVANT.
I THINK IT HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY CREATE A DELIVERABLE TO SCORE.
AND I'VE BEEN ON BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEES FOR MANY YEARS AND A LOT OF TIME THAT DELIVERABLE IS, AS YOU KNOW, POIGNANT AS IT COULD BE IN THIS CASE.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS, TOO, FOR ME AS A MEMBER OF AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS HOW DO WE GET WHAT WE RECOMMEND MEMORIALIZED SO THAT A COMMITTEE ISN'T DOING THE SAME DAMN THING AGAIN 10 YEARS FROM NOW? YEAH, YEAH.
BECAUSE THAT IS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS.
AND A LOT OF THIS THE WAY THINGS WORK IS BECAUSE WE'RE A SMALL TOWN AND THE PEOPLE WHO RUN THE CITY AND THE SCHOOLS LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY AND EVERYBODY KNOWS THEM.
AND SO THERE'S ALL THIS STUFF THAT MAKES IT ALL TOO PERSONAL AND NOT ENOUGH PROCESS LIKE NANCY'S TALKING ABOUT.
AND SO WE DON'T GET THESE THINGS REALLY CODIFIED SOME WAY.
SO I THINK FROM THE SET, FROM FEEDBACK FROM US TO THE SCHOOL BOARD IS HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS? AND AGAIN, JUST SO THAT WE'RE NOT REVISITING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
I APPRECIATE THE SENTIMENT, SEAN, AND I THINK THAT WAS REALLY THE CRUX OF SOME OF OUR EARLY CONVERSATIONS LAST YEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, WANTING TO PRODUCE SOMETHING TANGIBLE AND THAT THE BOARD WOULD ACTUALLY USE, AS WE ALL HAVE, VOLUNTEER ACTIVITIES THAT WE COULD EASILY TAKE UP THE REST OF OUR TIME.
AND YOU ALL SIGNED UP FOR THIS AND WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S RELEVANT, USEFUL AND HITS ON THOSE REALLY POIGNANT PARTS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
AND I THINK WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, IS I THINK WHAT I WHAT I FIND APPEALING ABOUT.
PROCESS ABOUT ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS DOING KIND OF PROCESS QUESTIONS.
NOT ALWAYS, BUT I MEAN, SOMETIMES IT MIGHT NEED TO BE A CONTENT QUESTION, BUT BUT SOMETHING THAT WAS A PARTICULARLY RELEVANT BUDGET CONTENT QUESTION FROM TWO THOUSAND AND THREE, YOU KNOW, MIGHT NOT HAVE THE SORT OF EVERGREEN STAYING POWER THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S MORE ABOUT NOT ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE FUNDING ON ONE YEAR VERSUS ANOTHER YEAR, BUT MORE HOW ARE YOU HOW ARE YOU RUNNING THE BUDGET PROCESS?
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AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE'S ALSO BEEN A LOT OF WORK IN THE LAST FEW YEARS ABOUT HOW DO WE TRANSITION ADVISORY COMMITTEES, HOW DO WE KEEP THE WORK OF ADVISORY COMMITTEES IN A CLEAR, EASY, ACCESSIBLE PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO FIND.SO I THINK THAT'S SOME OTHER STUFF THAT WE CAN YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ALL OF THE ADVISORY COMMITTEES ARE VERY INTERESTED IN.
SO I THINK WE CAN LEND OUR VOICE TO THAT AS WELL AND WORK TOWARDS SOMETHING THAT THAT REALLY CROSSES ALL OF THE ADVISORY COMMITTEES.
IF YOU GUYS YEAH, JUST JUST LET ME KNOW IF YOU NEED ANYTHING FROM ME, I MEAN, AGAIN, I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE THE RIGHT IDEA IN TERMS OF IN TERMS OF STAFF AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
BUT IF YOU DO FIND AT ANY POINT THAT IT'S HELPFUL FOR ME TO CREATE AN INTRODUCTION MOMENT OR I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING LIKE THAT, JUST OBVIOUSLY LET ME KNOW, OK? AND I JUST I DID ONE THING IS IT HAND IT'S IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE HANDY FOR YOU GUYS TO HAVE, I DON'T KNOW, THE LAST THREE YEARS OF BUDGET CALENDARS.
I MEAN, WOULD YOU LIKE ROBERT TO JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT ONE DOCUMENT WITH IT, YOU COULD JUST SEND IT, RIGHT? WOULD THAT BE HANDY? YEAH. OR JUST OF THE LINKS, IF THE LINKS ARE STILL ONLINE, JUST WANT TO OR, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A LINE, BUT THEY'RE ALSO IN E.S.P.
SO IF YOU JUST GOOGLE, THERE'S A SEARCH ENGINE FOR E.S.P.
AND YOU IF YOU PUT A BUDGET CALENDAR, YOU'LL GET BUDGET CALENDARS FOR LIKE BAZILIAN YEARS AND NINE.
THEN LET'S SAY THAT SAVE ROBERT'S SOME TIME BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE ONES THAT HAVE THE MULTIPLE YEARS OF MULTIPLES IN THE SAME YEAR, JUST LIKE THE LAST ONE, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE THEY GET REVISED SOMETIMES OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR.
ALL RIGHT. WELL WITH NO FURTHER BUSINESS, I WILL ADJOURN THE MEETING.
YES. PRESENCE FROM SEANS CAT AND HIS CAT.
IT WAS NOT. SO IT WAS AN IMPRESSIVE JUMP FROM YOUR CAT, RAYMIE.
YEAH, I WAS KIND OF LIKE, OH, MAN.
AND THERE'S LIKE SOME GARLAND UP THERE.
I WAS LIKE, SO IT JUMPS TO THE TOP OF THE BOOKCASE.
SO MY MY BEST FRIEND'S CAT A COUPLE WEEKS AGO JUMP FROM THE TOP OF HER BOOKCASE DIRECTLY ON TOP OF HER HEAD.
SO MAYBE I CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN FOR THE MEETING ON THURSDAY WOULD BE A NICE WAY TO TO ROUND OUT THE SCHOOL BOARD. YOU'RE ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU EVERYONE AND HAVE A VERY HAPPY HOLIDAYS, EVERYONE.
THANK YOU, SUSAN, SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP TODAY.
ALL RIGHT. EVERYWHERE.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.