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WELCOME, EVERYONE TO THE JOINT CITY COUNCIL SCHOOL BOARD WORK SESSION FOR

[Call Meeting to Order]

NOVEMBER 17, 2020.

WE ARE STARTING HERE AT 703 P.M.

DUE TO THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC EMERGENCY, THE NOVEMBER 17, 2020, JOINT CITY COUNCIL SCHOOL BOARD WORK SESSION IS BEING HELD ELECTRONICALLY PURSUANT TO VIRGINIA CODE SECTION TO POINT TO DESH 37 08.

TO A THREE.

THE CONTINUITY OF GOVERNMENT ORDINANCE ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL ON JUNE 20, 2020, FOR SECTION 4-0.01G ENACTED BY THE 2020 VIRGINIA GENERAL ASSEMBLY, VIRGINIA ACTS OF ASSEMBLY, 1283 AND 1289 TO UNDERTAKE ESSENTIAL BUSINESS.

ALL OF THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND STAFF ARE PARTICIPATING FROM REMOTE LOCATIONS THROUGH A VIDEO CONFERENCE CALLED ON ZUMA.

THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD ELECTRONICALLY UNLESS A DETERMINATION IS MADE THAT IT IS SAFE ENOUGH TO BE HELD IN PERSON AND THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING IN ALEXANDRIA VIRGINIA.

ELECTRONIC ACCESS WILL BE PROVIDED IN EITHER EVENT.

NOW WE WILL GO ON TO OUR PRESENTATION.

[1. Joint City Council/School Board CIP Budget Work Session]

>> SPEAKER: HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

>> SPEAKER: WELCOME EVERYONE AND GLAD YOU COULD JOIN US THIS EVENING.

>> SPEAKER: WE ARE HERE TO TALK THIS EVENING ABOUT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FOR THE FY 2020/2031 YEARS AND WE HAVE -- WE WILL LET YOU KNOW THAT YOU SHOULD GO AHEAD AND GO ON.

>> SPEAKER: SORRY.

>> SPEAKER: WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THAT.

USUALLY I HAVE SOMEONE NEXT TO ME AND I NUDGE THEM OR I DO IT MYSELF.

OUR AGENDA TONIGHT IS TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE PAST CHALLENGES AND HOW WE ARE TACKLING THE PRESENT, WHICH IS ALSO CHALLENGING AS WE ALL KNOW.

AND WHAT TO LOOK TO THE FUTURE AND WHAT THE CIP BUDGET HOLDS THAT WE ARE PRESENTED WITH BY DR. HUTCHINGS LAST WEEK -- ON THE 12TH.

I THINK THAT WAS LAST WEEK.

AND THEN WE WILL HAVE SOME DISCUSSION TIME AT THE END.

THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS NEW TO PEOPLE.

WE DO HAVE AGING INFRASTRUCTURE AND IN SPITE OF THE ADDITION OF SOME OF OUR NEWER BUILDINGS IN RECENT YEARS, IT IS STILL A STRUGGLE TO MAINTAIN THE OLDER ONES PAST THEIR OPERATIONAL LIFE.

THIS DRIVES UP THE COST OF MAINTENANCE AS SOME OF THE THINGS ARE AGING AND INEFFICIENT.

>> SPEAKER: MY SCREEN JUST STOPPED -- THERE WE GO.

>> SPEAKER: ALSO OUR ENROLLMENT IN SPITE OF WHAT IS IN THIS CIP, BUDGET, BUDGETS FOR ALL OF THE YEARS, WE ARE STILL GOING TO BE -- WE ARE PROJECTED TO BE 2000 SEATS SHORT IN THE FIVE YEARS.

THAT INCLUDES THE HIGH SCHOOL PROJECT AND DOUGLAS MACARTHUR REBUILD.

THE COVID ABOUT 300 STUDENTS BUT WE WILL HAVE TO CONTINUE TO MONITOR TO SEE WHERE THAT GOES.

THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN -- THAT ARE PLAYING A PART IN OUR BUDGETING.

THE YEARS OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, SO THAT WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE ONLY THINGS THAT ARE REALLY, REALLY CRITICAL, RATHER THAN GETTING AHEAD OF THE CYCLE OF FIXING ONLY WHAT IS IN FAILURE MODE.

WE ARE TRYING TO MAXIMIZE CAPACITY ON ALL OF THE PROJECTS, BUT IT IS STILL NOT FILLING THE GAP THAT WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY AND TEXTBOOKS ARE OF COURSE -- THE TECHNOLOGY ALONE IS WHAT IS KEEPING US GOING RIGHT NOW.

SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT IS INFORMING THE BUDGETS AT TARGETED FACILITIES ASSESSMENTS THAT WERE COMPLETED LAST YEAR ALLOWED US TO PRIORITIZE IN THE ONE, TWO, AND THREE CATEGORIES FOR SOME OF THE FIVE SCHOOLS AND TRANSPORTATION

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FACILITIES.

THAT WAS REALLY GREAT INFORMATION.

WE WERE ABLE TO USE ONE OF THE FEW PLUSES ABOUT THE SHUTDOWN IS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO ADVANCE SOME OF THE PROJECT TO BE FINISHED EARLIER.

AND ALSO, IN ORDER TO MAXIMIZE REALLY THE EFFICIENCY IN OUR ORGANIZATION, THERE WAS A REORGANIZATION OF THE DEPARTMENT TO MANAGE OUR PORTFOLIO AND THE MAINTENANCE.

THIS IS THE MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT THAT MAYBE YOU HAVE ALL SEEN.

THIS IS FAIRLY NEW BECAUSE THIS IS ASSOCIATED WITH OUR NEW STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WE ARE NOW IN THE FIRST YEAR OF.

THIS WILL RUN THROUGH 2020.

OUR CORE VALUES, THE WELCOMING, EMPOWERING EQUITY FOCUS AND RESULTS DRIVEN IS SOMETHING A KEY TAKE AWAY FROM THE SLIDE.

THESE ARE THE SCHOOL BOARD PRIORITIES THAT ARE ALIGNED WITH THE VARIOUS COMPONENTS OF OUR NEW STRATEGIC PLAN, AND THIS IS HOW WE DO OUR BUDGET AND THIS IS REALLY BEEN VERY HELPFUL SINCE DR. HUTCHINGS HAS BEEN HERE TO MAKE IT SO THAT THE BOARD CAN COME TOGETHER AND HAVE FOCUS ON THE IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE ARE MEETING OUR BUDGET TO ACCOMPLISH.

THIS IS WHERE I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO DR. HURT -- DR. HART TO CONTINUE.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR ANDERSON.

A GOOD EVENING BOARD MEMBERS AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ARE VIEWING PUBLIC.

I WANT TO CONTINUE IN THE VEIN OF HOW WE DEVELOPED OUR CIP FOR THIS YEAR.

WE CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON BOTH OUR CAPACITY AND NOT CAPACITY PROJECTS.

SOME OF THE FACTORS THAT WERE CONSIDERED FOR OUR CAPACITY PROJECTS INCLUDED US REEVALUATING OUR HIGH SCHOOL PROJECT BUDGET, EVALUATING OUR COLLOCATION OPPORTUNITIES, UPDATING OUR ELEMENTARY MODERNIZATION PROJECTS, OUT ELEMENTARY SWING SPACE CONSIDERATION, THE DEFERRAL OF OUR TRANSPORTATION PROJECT DUE TO THE WINTER WHEELER STUDIES, AS WELL AS UPDATES FOR THE DISPLACED.

ON THE KNOT CAPACITY SIDE WE ARE FOCUSED ON MAJOR SYSTEM ASSESSMENTS SUCH AS SECURITY, CONTINUING TO OF GREAT OUR KITCHEN AND PLAYGROUND PROJECTS, OUR PATRICK HENRY COMPLETION FUND, AS WELL AS REEVALUATING AND CONFIRMING OUR EXISTING PRODUCTS IN THE CIP.

WANTING TO COVER OUR FY 22 CIP PROJECT SUMMARY WE ARE PROPOSING NEXT YEAR A TOTAL BUDGET OF $55.2 MILLION.

THIS INCLUDES 30 MILLION FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL PROJECT FUNDING, 2 MILLION SPECIFICALLY FOR DOUGLAS MACARTHUR TO COVER BOTH OUR REQUIREMENTS FOR UNDERGROUND UTILITIES AS WELL AS OUR SOLAR PANEL INSTALLATION, MULTIPLE REPAIRS AND RENOVATIONS THAT ARE TIED TO OUR PRIORITY TO SKI PROJECT IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE TARGETED FACILITIES ASSESSMENTS, OUR TEXTBOOK AND TECHNOLOGY MODERNIZATIONS FROM APPROXIMATELY $1.5 MILLION.

AND WE REALLY JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT NEXT YEAR WE ARE ACKNOWLEDGING OUR CURRENT FISCAL CLIMATE AND BEING ABLE TO CREATE AN IMMEDIATE SAVING OF APPROXIMATELY $28.6 MILLION FROM LAST YEAR'S CITY APPROVED CIP BUDGET FOR FY 22.

WANTING TO SHARE BRIEFLY AN UPDATE ON THE DOUGLAS MACARTHUR PROJECT.

IN SEPTEMBER WE CAME TO BOTH GROUPS AND MADE SURE THAT YOU ALL WERE AWARE THAT WE WERE FACING A POTENTIAL SHORTFALL OF ANYWHERE FROM FIVE TO $7 MILLION.

BASED ON THE HARD WORK OF BOTH OF OUR TEAMS, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CLOSE THAT GAP SIGNIFICANTLY TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT THREE TO $4 MILLION.

WE DO STILL HAVE A RESIDUAL GAP OF TWO TO 4 MILLION THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON SO WE CAN GET BACK WITHIN BUDGET.

BUT WE DEFINITELY WANTED TO STRESS THAT WE ARE UTILIZING MULTIPLE STRATEGIES IN ORDER TO CLOSE THIS GAP AND THAT WE WILL NOT REQUEST ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM THE CITY TO SUPPORT COMPLETION.

SOME OF THE REDUCTION STRATEGIES THAT WE ARE FOCUSING ON OUR -- CONTINUED REFINEMENT OF CONTINGENCIES, ARE REVISING SPACE MEANS FOR OUR EXTENDED LEARNING AREAS, UPDATING THE FIGHT LAYOUT, AS WELL AS LOOKING FOR DIFFERENT OPTIONS ON HOW WE CAN PROCURE FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

IN TERMS OF THE SCHEDULE, WE DO HAVE A DOUGLAS MACARTHUR ADVISORY MEETING SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 30.

WE ARE CONTINUING ON WITH OUR CONSTRUCTION UPDATES TO INCLUDE FINALIZING OUR UTILITIES DISCONNECTS, AND CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THE CITY ON DEMOLITION AND OTHER

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PERMITS THAT ARE NEEDED.

OUR INTENT IS TO ISSUE THE DEMOLITION CONTRACT BY EARLY DECEMBER.

IN TOTAL, OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS, WE ARE PROPOSING A CIP OF $551 MILLION.

THAT DOES INCLUDE SOME CHANGES THAT WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO SHARE WITH BOTH GROUPS.

WE ARE RECOMMENDING DEFERRING BOTH GEORGE MASON AND CORA KELLY PROJECTS FOR ONE YEAR.

IN REGARDS TO THE NEW SCHOOL, WE ARE RECOMMENDING TO DEFER THAT OUT TWO YEARS AND THE MATTHEW MORETTI DEFERRIN YEARS WHICH MEANS IT ACTUALLY FALLS OFF OF THE CURRENT PROPOSED TEN YEAR CIP.

IF WE CAN TRANSITION INTO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

BEFORE I HANDED OVER TO MS. ERIKA GULICK TO PRESENT SPECIFICALLY ON OUR COLLOCATION OPPORTUNITIES, I WANTED TO REALLY FOCUS ON WHAT THE KEY DISCUSSION TOPICS WILL BE FOR TONIGHT FOR THE TWO RESPECTIVE BODIES.

THE FIRST BEING THE COLLOCATION OF THE SITES AND REALLY JUST STRESSING THAT THIS IS AN URGENT NEED AND DISCUSSION THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A DECISION BY JANUARY 15.

IF WE ARE TO REMAIN ON SCHEDULE.

AS WELL AS SOME CONVERSATION ON THE WITTER WHEELER TRANSPORTATION PROJECT AND THE MASTER PLAN IMPACT FROM OUR TRANSPORTATION FACILITY AND PERMANENT SWING SPACE FOR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL MODERNIZATIONS.

SUSAN AT THIS TIME I'M GOING TO ASK THAT YOU STOP SHARING THIS PRESENTATION AND SHARE ATTACHMENT NUMBER FOUR.

AS SUSAN IS PULLING THAT UP, ERICA, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO GO AHEAD AND IF YOU NEED TO TEE UP THE CONVERSATION FOR THE SLIDES THAT ARE FORTHCOMING, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO DO SO.

>> SPEAKER: SURE.

THANK YOU, DR. HART AND GOOD EVENING BOARD MEMBERS AND COUNCILMEMBERS.

WE WANTED TO TALK THROUGH A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFICALLY AND HOPING THAT THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE DISCUSSION THAT WE WILL HAVE HERE TONIGHT ABOUT COLLOCATION AND SPECIFICALLY COLLOCATION AS IT RELATES TO THE HIGH SCHOOL PROJECT.

THAT IS OUR NEXT MOST IMMEDIATE PROJECT COMING UP THAT WE WILL NEED TO DETERMINE THE FULL PROGRAM OF IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO MOVE SUCCESSFULLY THROUGH THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT.

WE JUST WANTED TO PRESENT TO YOU WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT FROM RIGHT NOW, WHAT OUR DIFFERENT CONSTRAINTS ARE, AND SO THIS INITIAL SLIDE IS GIVING YOU AN IDEA OF THE PROJECT COMPLEXITY.

I'M SURE THIS IS NOT NEW TO ANYONE AND CERTAINLY THINGS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN ALL PROJECTS.

BUT REALLY UNDERSTANDING HOW ALL OF THESE INTERPLAY AND HOW ANY CHANGE TO THE SCOPE MAY IMPACT THE SCHEDULE OR BUDGET AND VICE-VERSA.

PARTICULAR MAKING SURE WE ARE ACCOMMODATING THE EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM AND ACCOMMODATING OUR OPEN SPACE, GREEN BUILDING POLICIES, ENSURING WE HAVE AMPLE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND ENGAGEMENT IN THIS PROCESS AND SO WE WANTED YOU ALL TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE WHOLE TEAM, INCLUDING CITY STAFF ARE BALANCING THESE DIFFERENT GOALS AND REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE FOR THE PROJECT.

IF WE COULD GO ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE, WE JUST WANTED TO PRESENT TO YOU ALL THE CURRENT COLLOCATION OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE ARE GOING TO EXPLORE AS PART OF THIS INITIAL COUPLE OF MONTHS OF TEST FITTING AND STUDYING.

THE FIRST BEING FROM THE ALEXANDER HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE BEEN DEEPLY INVOLVED TOGETHER WITH ALL OF THE CITY DEPARTMENTS AND THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS -- PROGRAM NEEDS THAT THEY HAVE TO SEE WHAT MAKES SENSE AND WHAT WE COULD PROVIDE ON THE MINNIE HOWARD CAMPUS.

THE CURRENT OPTIONS THAT WE WOULD BE EXPLORING FURTHER ARE EXPANDING THE TEEN WELLNESS CENTER TO THE MINNIE HOWARD CAMPUS, DC HS HAS SEVERAL PROGRAMS THAT THEY WOULD LOVE TO SEE IF WE CAN EXPLORE SOME OF THOSE IT AND CO-SHARE SOME SPACE IN ORDER FOR THEM, FOR DHS -- DC HS TO BE BETTER SERVING OUR COMMUNITY.

OUR OUR CPA RECREATION, ARTS AND CULTURAL ACTIVITIES COLLOCATION IS NOT NEW.

WE ARE READY SHARED A FIELD OVER THERE.

WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PUBLIC OPEN SPACE THAT IS DESIGNATED THERE.

AS WE LOOK TO EXPAND THAT WITH THE POTENTIAL INCLUSION OF A POOL IN THIS PROJECT.

WE WILL ALSO BE LOOKING AT EXPLORING THE POSSIBILITY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND SEEING IF WE ARE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE ANY OF THAT AS WELL AS ANY ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTIONS.

I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THAT THESE ARE THE THINGS WE ARE EXPLORING AT THIS POINT.

THEY ARE NOT DEFINITIVELY IN THE DESIGN OF THIS PROJECT, BUT WE WILL NEED TO COME TO A DECISION ABOUT WHAT WILL BE IN THE DESIGN OF THIS PROJECT FAIRLY QUICKLY.

WE ARE REQUESTING THAT DECISION BY JANUARY TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD THROUGH

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THE DESIGN PROCESSES WITHOUT IMPACTING SOME OF THE SCOPE, SCHEDULE AND BUDGET TRIANGLE THAT WE SHOWED PREVIOUSLY.

WITH THAT, I AM HAPPY TO TURN IT BACK OVER TO CHAIR ANDERSON.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION, MS. GLICK AND DR. HART.

NOW AT THIS TIME WE WOULD LIKE TO OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE.

PROBABLY IT'S BECAUSE WE ARE ON THREE DIFFERENT SCREENS IT'S PROBABLY BEST TO USE THE RAISE HAND FUNCTION BECAUSE I CAN'T SEE EVERYBODY IF THEY MIGHT TRY TO WAVE AT ME.

>> SPEAKER: I APOLOGIZE, CHAIR ANDERSON.

I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT MEMBERS FROM ALL OF THE CITY DEPARTMENTS AND THE HIGH SCHOOL PROJECT ARE HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS RELATED TO ANY SPECIFIC PROGRAMS.

>> SPEAKER: SO I GUESS, QUESTIONS, CLARIFICATIONS ABOUT THE CIP INFORMATION THAT WAS PRESENTED OR ABOUT THE INFORMATION THAT MS. GLICK PRESENTED WOULD BE GOOD.

I SEE JUSTIN, MR. WILSON.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU, CHAIR ANDERSON.

A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

LET ME FIRST OF ALL NOTES AND THINGS AND THEN A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

FIRST OF ALL, I'M PLEASED TO SEE THE PROGRESS ON THE COST MITIGATION ON MACARTHUR.

I APPRECIATE THAT THAT -- WE HAVE MADE SOME PROGRESS ON THAT AND IT'S GOOD TO SEE.

I WOULD BE INTERESTED WHAT THE TRADE-OFFS WERE BUT WE DON'T NEED TO GET INTO THAT RIGHT NOW.

I AM ALSO PLEASED TO SEE THAT THE TEXTBOOKS IN A CIP.

I THINK THAT WAS THE RIGHT MOVE.

SO THANKS FOR MAKING THAT CHANGE.

TWO QUESTIONS.

I NOTED IN READING THE CIP AND THE CHANGE IN ASSUMPTIONS AROUND CORA KELLY, IF YOU COULD TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WENT INTO THAT CHANGE AND KIND OF HOW THAT WAS INFORMED BY THE FEASIBILITY STUDY.

AND THEN, KIND OF A GENERAL QUESTION AROUND BOTH MIDDLE SCHOOLS, I NOTES WE JUST HAVE IN THE NON-CAPACITY SIDE SOME RELATIVELY SMALL -- UNDER $10 MILLION INVESTMENT OVER THE NEXT DECADE IN BOTH BUILDINGS JUST TO DEAL WITH HVAC AND THINGS LIKE THAT WORK OBVIOUSLY WE HEAR A LOT FROM A FACILITIES PERSPECTIVE ABOUT BOTH BUILDINGS AND THAT MAYBE BECAUSE ONE OF MY KIDS IS IN ONE OF THEM.

BUT PERHAPS OTHER REASONS TOO.

I WOULD JUST BE CURIOUS HOW WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE GENERAL FACILITY CONDITION OF BOTH OF THOSE BUILDINGS AND WHAT LARGER INVESTMENTS LIE AHEAD.

>> SPEAKER: I'M GOING TO ASK ERICA TO ANSWER THE FIRST QUESTION REGARDING CORA KELLY AND THEN MAYOR WILSON, MYSELF WILL TACKLE THE SECOND QUESTION.

>> SPEAKER: THANKS FOR THE QUESTION, MAYOR WILSON.

THE CORA KELLY FEASIBILITY STUDY -- THIS WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION LAST YEAR AND CERTAINLY AS A FEASIBILITY STUDY HAS PROGRESSED.

I WILL NOTE FOR EVERYBODY THAT THEY HAVE BEEN ON HOLD FOR A LITTLE BIT AND THEY ARE NOT COMPLETE AND SO THERE WILL STILL BE SOME FURTHER ENGAGEMENT TO COME.

WHAT WE DID FIND IS THAT CORA KELLY, BASED ON THE CONDITION, THE SETUP IN THE FACT THAT IT IS NONCONFORMING IN ITS CURRENT ZONING, REALLY DRIVE US TO NEED TO REPLACE THAT BUILDING.

IT WOULDN'T BE COST EFFECTIVE TO TRY TO ADD ON OR TO RENOVATE SOME OF THE EXISTING AND BUILD FROM THERE.

WE ALSO KNOW THAT OUR -- THE FLOOD MAPS HAVE RECENTLY CHANGED AND THAT MAY SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT SOME OF WHAT THAT CORA KELLY REDEVELOPMENT WOULD BE.

IT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED NOW FIVE YEARS AGO IN THE LONG RANGE EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES AS A RENOVATION AND ADDITION.

LARGELY DUE TO ITS EDUCATIONAL ADEQUACY.

IT'S CLASSROOMS ARE A LITTLE BIGGER THAN SOME OF THE OTHERS SO AT THE TIME MAYBE IT WAS THOUGHT THAT WE DIDN'T NEED A FULL NEW BUILDING.

BUT UPON FURTHER EVALUATION OF THE CONDITION OF THAT FACILITY, WHAT WE CONSIDER TO -- WHAT WE NEED FOR OUR STUDENTS, IT IS NOW PROPOSED AS A REPLACEMENT.

DR. HART?

>> SPEAKER: THANKS SO MUCH, ERICA.

WANTING TO ADDRESS THE TWO QUESTIONS.

I BELIEVE MAYOR WILSON YOU ARE REFERENCING OUR TWO MIDDLE SCHOOLS.

I CAN DEFINITELY SHARE THAT OVER THE PAST YEAR WE HAVE MADE SIGNIFICANT STRIDES AT BOTH GEORGE WASHINGTON AND ESSIE HAMMOND.

WE HAVE DONE ROOF REPLACEMENT PROJECTS, WE HAVE DONE HVAC UPGRADES AND REPLACEMENT PROJECTS, WE HAVE COMPLETED SPECIFICALLY AT GEORGE WASHINGTON AND INDOOR AIR QUALITY STUDY WHERE WE HAD SOME RESULTS AND WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THOSE MITIGATION FACTORS AS WELL.

WE HAVE GONE IN AND REPLACED WATER FOUNTAINS, OLD ANTIQUATED WATER FOUNTAINS WITH OUR BOTTLE FILLING STATIONS.

WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF DOING A MAJOR FLOORING INSTALLATION UPDATE

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AT GEORGE WASHINGTON.

WE DEFINITELY FEEL AS IF THE STRIDES THAT WE HAVE BEEN MAKING AT BOTH GEORGE WASHINGTON AND F.C.

HAMMOND WILL REAP SIGNIFICANT BENEFITS AT THOSE SCHOOLS.

AND JOHN, I BELIEVE YOU ARE ON THE LINE AS WELL.

I HOPE THAT YOU CAN SHARE JUST MORE DETAIL WHAT WE HAVE COMPLETED OVER THE PAST YEAR AND WHAT IS UPCOMING.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

AS DR. HART MENTIONED, WE HAVE DONE QUITE A FEW PROJECTS AT GEORGE WASHINGTON.

RIGHT NOW AS YOU MENTIONED WE ARE FINISHING A FLOORING PROJECT WHICH ALSO INCLUDES NOT JUST FLOORING BUT ASBESTOS REMOVAL.

WE HAVE ALSO GONE INTO THE COURTYARD AT THE SCHOOLS WERE SOME WATER INTRUSION ISSUES.

WE HAVE GONE DOWN INTO THE BASEMENT AND THEN ASBESTOS AND LEAD BASED PAINT TESTING.

WE ARE CLEANING UP DOWN THERE AND WORKING WITH SOME WATER INTRUSION ISSUES.

WE HAVE OUTLINED WHAT WE NEED FOR HVAC AND WE HAVE STARTED THE FIRST OF THAT PHASED PROJECT.

WE ARE ALSO ON THE LAST SECTION OF THE BUILDING TO COMPLETE FOR ROOFING.

WE ARE ALMOST AT 100 PERCENT OF EVERY ROOF OVER THAT BUILDING BEING COMPLETED AND WATERTIGHT.

A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WE DID FINISH BUILDING ENVELOPE REPAIR.

WHAT WE ARE ALSO WORKING ON RIGHT NOW IS SOME DRAINAGE ISSUES AROUND THE SITE AS SOME OF THE CITY PROBABLY KNOW, THERE ARE SOME ISSUES ALL ALONG MT.

VERNON AVENUE.

WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO PUT SOME RAIN GAUGES IN THAT SOME OF THESE SCHOOLS ALONG THE ROUTE, BUT THAT PROBABLY COMES FROM 4-MILE RUN.

THAT STREAM GOES INTO A PIPE NEAR CORA KELLY AND WE HAVE SOME WATER ISSUES AT CORA KELLY, AND THAT WASHINGTON.

WE BELIEVE THERE IS HIGH WATER TABLE AND SPRINGS AROUND THE FIELDS OUT THERE.

WE ARE STUDYING THAT IN REGARD TO THE CITY HAS PUT IN INLETS ALONG THE STREET IN FRONT OF EACH HOME ALONG THERE.

WE ARE DOING A LITTLE BIT MORE CIVIL ENGINEERING THERE TO DEAL WITH THOSE DRAINAGE PROBLEMS. OVER AT F.C.

HAMMOND THE SAME THING.

WE ARE ON THE LAST SECTION OF ROOF RIGHT NOW AND THAT WILL BE DONE IN THE NEXT TWO MONTHS.

EVERY BIT OF THAT SCHOOL WILL HAVE NEW ROOF.

WE ARE ALSO DOING SOME WATER INTRUSION ISSUES AROUND THAT SCHOOL.

WE ARE PUTTING OUR STORM WATER PIPING IN OUR ROOF LEADERS DIRECTLY UNDER GROUND THE COURTYARD AND DOING SOME OF THOSE.

AND SOME HVAC IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL.

WE ARE TAKING A PRETTY COMPETENT TO LOOK AT EACH OF THE SCHOOL TO TRY TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THOSE LARGER OUTSTANDING ISSUES.

>> SPEAKER: IF WE ADDRESSED ALL OF THE MAJOR ITEMS THAT CAME OUT OF THE ASSESSMENT WE DID ON BOTH FACILITIES? HAVE ALL OF THOSE -- OR AT LEAST PLAN TO BE ADDRESSED?

>> SPEAKER: THEY ARE EITHER HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED, IN PROGRESS OR SHOULD BE ADDRESSED BY NEXT SUMMER.

THROUGH NEXT SUMMER.

MOST OF THEM ON THAT LIST, YES, ARE CURRENTLY BEING TACKLED OR PLANNED.

THERE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT ARE KIND OF PHASED.

FOR EXAMPLE, GEORGE WASHINGTON HVAC.

THAT IS PHASED OUT OVER A COUPLE OF YEARS BUT WE ARE OBVIOUSLY GETTING TO THE COMPONENTS THAT ARE AT THE END OF THEIR LIFECYCLE.

SO YES, ALL OF THOSE ISSUES ARE BEING ADDRESSED.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

I THINK MR. GARY, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? A BIRDIE TOLD ME THAT YOUR HAND WAS RAISED.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS.

WHAT I'M LOOKING AT THE SLIDES THAT WE HAVE ON OUR THING LOOK LIKE WE'RE MISSING SOME SLIDES.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GET AN UPDATED VERSION OF THE SLIDE DECK AS WELL AS THE TWO SLIDES THAT CAME SEPARATELY ON THE SECOND PART.

UNLESS I MISSED AN E-MAIL SOMEWHERE I DON'T THINK I RECEIVED THOSE SLIDES EITHER.

>> SPEAKER: THEY ARE ON THE SEAT -- THEY ARE ON THE SITE.

I WILL SEND YOU THE LINK.

>> SPEAKER: AND I NOTICED -- IT'S NOT ON THIS ONE BUT BETWEEN THE THIRD AND THE FIFTH SLIDE, YOU GUYS HAD MENTIONED SOLAR PANELS PUTTING $2 MILLION ASIDE FOR DOUGLAS MACARTHUR.

THERE IS NO GRANT MONEY, NO PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, NOTHING OUT THERE OR IT WAS JUST A PLACEHOLDER? I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.

>> SPEAKER: WILL ASK ERICA TO GO INTO THE DETAILS.

BEFORE A QUICK CLARIFICATION, THE TWO MAIN DOLLARS IS ACTUALLY BOTH FOR THE SOLAR PANEL INSTALLATION AS WELL AS THE UNDERGROUND UTILITIES.

ERICA, IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO JUST VARIOUS OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT REGARDING SOLAR PANELS.

>> SPEAKER: SURE.

WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR DESIGN TEAM INCLUDING OUR ENGINEER, MECHANICAL ELECTRICAL AND PLUMBING ENGINEER TO GO THROUGH THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE AS FAR AS SOLAR PANELS.

OF COURSE THERE ARE DIFFERENT PUBLIC BY THE PARTNERSHIP OPTIONS WHERE SOMEONE COULD BUY THEM, AND YOU BUY THE UTILITIES BACK.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE SET UP TO NOT MISS THAT SINCE IT IS A CITY REQUIREMENTS AND WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE THE FUNDS WITHIN OUR BUDGET.

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IT WAS ADDED IN HERE.

IF WE DETERMINE AT SOME TIME LATER IN THE FUTURE THAT WE WILL PROCURE THEM THROUGH IT -- THROUGH AN ALTERNATE ROUTE THAT SOMETHING WE CAN ADJUST.

>> SPEAKER: I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO ASK THAT.

AND THE LAST THING, THE HVAC.

WE ARE NOT USING THE SAME FOLKS THAT DID JEFFERSON, RIGHT?

>> SPEAKER: I DO NOT BELIEVE SO, NO.

I KNOW TO YOUR COMMENT AND WE HAVE A LOT -- HAD A LOT OF LESSONS LEARNED THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.

I DON'T BELIEVE SO, BUT JOHN, YOU CAN CONFIRM THAT.

>> SPEAKER: THAT IS CORRECT.

WE ARE NOT USING THE SAME.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: MS. JACKSON?

>> SPEAKER: GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TONIGHT.

MY QUESTION GOES BACK TO WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE TIMELINE CONCERNING MACARTHUR AND THE SWING SPACE.

HOW IS THAT PLAYING OUT WITH THE PATRICK HENRY SWING SPACE AND THE CONTRACT AND THE HOCUTT AND PATRICK HENRY NEIGHBORHOODS? WAITING FOR US TO EVACUATE THAT BUILDING AFTER THE MACARTHUR KIDS GET BACK INTO THE NEW BUILDING, BUT DEMOLISHING HAS NOT HAPPENED OF THE OLD BUILDING IT.

>> SPEAKER: ERICA?

>> SPEAKER: SURE.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, MS. JACKSON.

WE ARE MOVING TOWARDS DEMOLITION.

WE ARE STILL TARGETING THE SAME COMPLETION TIMELINES AND COMPLETION OF THE SWING SPACE.

WHICH IS SAID TO BE COMPLETE FOR SEPTEMBER 2023.

COMPLETING THE FULL PATRICK HENRY SITE, DOUGLAS MACARTHUR STILL SET TO MOVE BACK TO THEIR NEW BUILDING IN JANUARY OF 2023.

SO THAT ALL IS REMAINING THE SAME.

OUR DEMOLITION, WHILE IT MAY SEEM LIKE NOTHING IS HAPPENING, A LOT OF THE UTILITY DISCONNECTS HAVE BEEN TAKING PLACE OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS.

WE HAVE MADE SURE TO GET OUT ALL FURNITURE, REMOVING SOME OF THE THINGS FROM THE LANDSCAPING ON THE EXTERIOR INCLUDING PICNIC TABLES AND MEMORIAL STONES AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND OTHER THINGS YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE WE SALVAGE.

AND THEN WE HAVE TO GET THE CONTRACT APPROVED AND GO THROUGH NEGOTIATION OF THE CONTRACT.

IT IS TAKING A MONTH OR TWO LONGER THAN WE HAD MAY HAVE WANTED, BUT IT SHOULDN'T HOLD UP THE FULL PROJECT ULTIMATELY BECAUSE WE WILL BE ABLE TO START THAT CONSTRUCTION IN THE SAME TIMELINE BECAUSE WE ARE MOVING THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS WHILE THESE THINGS ARE HAPPENING.

HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS CLARIFY A LITTLE.

>> SPEAKER: AND I THINK FROM LAST NIGHT WE LEARNED THERE IS ALSO ABATEMENT THAT HAS TO HAPPEN BEFORE THE OUTSIDE BUILDING IS TAKEN DOWN AND THERE IS STUFF THAT HAS TO COME OUT OF THE INSIDE THAT IS HAZARDOUS.

RIGHT, MS. GLUCK?

>> SPEAKER: YES, WE WILL HAVE TO DO INTERIOR ASBESTOS ABATEMENT.

WE WILL ALSO BE DOING PART OF OUR COMMUNITY MEETING WHICH IS NOW GOING TO BE HELD ON DECEMBER 7 AND OUR ADVISORY GROUP MEETING ON NOVEMBER 30.

WE WANT TO TALK TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT SOME OF THE ABATEMENT THAT WILL HAPPEN AND PEOPLE WILL BE GETTING LETTERS AS APPROPRIATE ADJACENT.

WE HAVE TO DO SPECIFICALLY ASBESTOS ABATEMENT AND WE DO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE RODENT CONTROL MEASURES IN PLACE KIND OF BEFORE ANY OF THAT DEMOLITION STARTS HAPPENING.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: ANYONE ELSE? I CAN'T SEE EVERYBODY ON THE SCREEN SO IF SOMEBODY COULD TELL ME IF THEY SEE SOMEONE WAVING THEN I DON'T -- THAT I DON'T SEE.

MR. CHAPMAN, I SEE YOU WAVING.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

MY QUESTION FOR DR. HART AND MS. GLUCK, ABOUT MAYBE A COUPLE WEEKS AGO CITY COUNCIL HAD A CONVERSATION WITH OUR DIRECTOR OF PROJECT IMPLEMENTATION AND THEY TALKED ABOUT NEW PROCESSES AND SOME CONFIRMATION -- I'M TRYING TO GET THE TERMINATION RIGHT.

THE WORDING RIGHT.

THEIR DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO LOOK AT CONFIRMING PRICING AS WE KIND OF DO CAPITAL PROJECTS.

HAS THERE BEEN ANY KIND OF DISCUSSIONS WITH YOUR DEPARTMENTS WITH DPI ABOUT HOW WE CAN KIND OF FIRM UP PRICING AS WE ARE DOING SOME OF THESE BIGGER PROJECTS? I KNOW THAT HAS BEEN A CONCERN ON OUR SIDE WITH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING, WHETHER IT IS WATERFRONT, THE WATERFRONT PLANNING PROCESS AND SOME OF THE CITY HALL RENOVATIONS.

I WANTED TO TRY TO SEE IF OUR STAFF IS REACHING OUT TO YOU GUYS AND IF THERE IS CONVERSATION AROUND CONFIRMING PRICING.

THE BACKGROUND TO THIS WITH LIMITED FUNDS, I THINK EVERYBODY WANTS SOME OF THE ELECTED BODIES, EVERYBODY WANTS TO HAVE A MUCH BETTER FEELING WHEN IT COMES TO THE COST THAT WE ARE SAYING TO THE PUBLIC OF HOW MUCH SOMETHING IS GOING TO COST AND BEING ABLE TO REACH THAT WITHIN OUR BUDGET.

I KNOW WE HAVE BEEN TAKING SOME STEPS ON THE CITY SIDE AND WE HAVE BEEN PUSHING OUR STAFF TO REACH OUT BUT I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S HAPPENING.

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COULD YOU LET ME KNOW IF THAT HAPPENING?

>> SPEAKER: MR. CHAPMAN, I WANT TO UNDERSTAND.

ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE TRAINING THAT THE CITY IS PROVIDING FOR YOUR TEAM AND IF WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO BE A PART OF THAT TRAINING? WITH US -- I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND -- APOLOGIZE IF I WAS ALL OVER THE PLACE WITH THE QUESTION.

I'M TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF WHAT HAS THE CITY DONE TO THAT EXTENT.

I DON'T KNOW -- WE HAVE ASKED QUESTIONS BUT I THINK WHEN WE ASK THOSE QUESTIONS WE WERE AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF DOING SOME OF THAT OUTREACH.

TRYING TO FOLLOW UP AND MAKE SURE THE OUTREACH IS BEING DONE.

>> SPEAKER: MS. GLUCK, SHE CAN DEFINITELY GIVE YOU SOME INSIGHT ON SOME OF THE COLLABORATION THAT WE ARE DOING WITH THE CITY, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE TRAINING THAT WE ARE DOING COLLABORATIVELY.

AND SOME OF THE PROTOCOLS AND THINGS THAT WE ARE USING ON BOTH ENDS TO DETERMINE ICING AND FORECASTING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

MS. GLUCK, IF YOU COULD ELABORATE ON THAT EXPECT THANK YOU, DR. HUTCHINGS.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAPMAN FOR THE QUESTION.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO MEETINGS THIS WEEK RELATED TO THIS.

I SAY THAT YOUR TEAM HAS ABSOLUTELY BEEN REACHING OUT TO US.

WE ARE KIND OF REALLY KICKING OFF THAT PROJECT WITH DPI WHICH WE ARE EXCITING ABOUT GETTING THAT.

WE ARE INCORPORATING SOME OF OUR COST ASSUMPTIONS INTO THE JOINT FACILITIES MASTER PLAN PROCESS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE ALIGNED THERE, TOO.

AS WELL AS WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF GENERAL SERVICES AND SOME OF HOW WE ARE MANAGING AND PROCURING THESE CONTRACTS.

ABSOLUTELY, THE CITY'S TEAM IS REACHING OUT TO US, INCLUDING US ON THE DIFFERENT TRAININGS THAT THEY ARE OFFERING AND WE ARE EAGER TO TAKE PART IN THAT.

>> SPEAKER: THAT'S GOOD.

THAT'S MY QUESTION FOR NOW.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAPMAN.

ANYBODY ELSE?

>> SPEAKER: MADAM CHAIR? I KNOW WE GOT IT PRETTY IN-DEPTH IDEA OF SOME OF THE WORK THAT WAS BEING DONE AT GW.

DID THE ROOFTOP OUT MT.

VERNON -- YOU GUYS SAID YOU WERE FIXING CAFETERIAS AND FLOORS AND ROOFS FOR SOME OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

ARE THERE ANY HIGHLIGHTS FROM ANY OF THOSE?

>> SPEAKER: ABSOLUTELY.

JOHN FINNEGAN, ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAR US, YOUR SCREEN IS FROZEN.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE STILL ON.

>> SPEAKER: I'M STILL ON.

>> SPEAKER: I WILL ASK JOHN TO GET INTO THE DETAILS OF YOUR ROOF QUESTION SPECIFICALLY FOR MT.

VERNON.

I CAN'T HIGHLIGHT THAT OVER THIS PAST SUMMER WE WERE ABLE TO UPDATE TWO OF OUR KITCHENS AT JOHN ADAMS AND CORA KELLY.

THOSE PROJECTS ACTUALLY WENT VERY WELL.

WE ARE VERY PLEASED WITH THE FINAL PRODUCT.

WE ARE CONTINUING PLANNING FOR SOME ADDITIONAL KITCHEN UPGRADES AS WELL.

IN THE COMING YEAR.

REALLY OVER THE NEXT YEAR.

WE ARE CONTINUING DOWN THAT PATH, SPECIFICALLY FOR OUR KITCHEN UPGRADES.

JOHN, IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO THE MT.

VERNON ROOF, PLEASE.

>> SPEAKER: THE MT.

VERNON ROOF WAS ACTUALLY COMPLETED LAST YEAR.

WE DO HAVE A NEW ROOF ON EACH SECTION OF MT.

VERNON.

I BELIEVE IT IS ABOUT 23 DIFFERENT ROOFS INCLUDING ENTRANCES, AWNINGS, ETC.

THAT IS ALL NEW AND WE ARE IN CURRENTLY IN DESIGN FOR KITCHEN AND CAFETERIA UPGRADES.

THOSE ARE ABOUT TO GO IN -- THE CAFETERIA PORTION.

(LOSS OF AUDIO) >> SPEAKER: I THINK WE LOST JOHN.

HE WAS JUST SPEAKING ON THE FACT THAT OUR NEXT KITCHEN UP FOR DESIGN AND UPDATING IS MT.

VERNON AS WELL.

HOPEFULLY HE WILL BE ABLE TO JOIN BACK ON THE LINE SHORTLY.

>> SPEAKER: I WANTED TO ADD IN THAT THE ROOF IS WORKING.

YOU ALL KNOW ALL OF THE RAIN WE HAVE BEEN HAVING OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS AND WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY LEAKS AT MT.

VERNON.

KNOCK ON WOOD.

IT IS DEFINITELY WORKING AND THAT'S A GREAT THING BECAUSE AS YOU WILL KNOW, WATER DOES CONTRIBUTE TO MOLD AND AS LONG AS YOU CAN GET THE WATER MITIGATED, THEN YOU ARE CONTROLLING ANY TYPE OF MOLD IN OUR BUILDINGS.

>> SPEAKER: I AM BACK.

I APOLOGIZE.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU HEARD OR WHEN I CUT OUT.

BUT LET ME BE BRIEF SINCE MY CONNECTION DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE GREAT.

THE NEW ROOF IS COMPLETED OVER MT.

VERNON AND IT WAS COMPUTED LAST YEAR.

AS DR. HUTCHINGS WAS JUST DESCRIBING, WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON WATER INTRUSION ISSUES AROUND THE SITE.

WE HAVE DONE A SIMPLE STUDY FOR THE ENTIRE SITE.

THERE ARE A HANDFUL OF THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING IN THE COURTYARD TO GET OUR ROOF LEADERS UNDERGROUND AND INTO THE STORM SYSTEM AS OPPOSED TO ALLOWING THINGS TO SPILL ONTO THE GRASS AND HARD SURFACES AND SHEET FLOW TO ENGLAND'S.

THERE ARE VARIOUS THINGS THAT WILL BE INCORPORATED WITH THAT PLAN AND THAT IS

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IF -- IN FOR A PERMIT.

WE ARE ALSO DESIGNING THE KITCHEN AND CAFETERIA.

THE CAFETERIA IS IN FOR PERMITTING IN THE KITCHEN WILL BE GOING IN SOON.

WE ARE ALSO WORKING ON THE NEW CHILLER FOR MT.

VERNON AS WELL.

THAT HAS BEEN DESIGNED AND WE MAY HAVE A CONTRACT ON BOARD.

(LOSS OF AUDIO) >> SPEAKER: CONTRACTOR ON BOARD FOR THE CHILLER.

>> SPEAKER: I GUESS I JUST WANTED TO SAY KUDOS TO YOU GUYS.

I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU'RE TRYING TO GET DONE WHILE THE STUDENTS UNFORTUNATELY AREN'T ABLE TO BE IN THE BUILDINGS.

I THINK FOR ALL OF THE DIFFICULTIES THAT WE ARE FACING WITH COVID IT DOES REPRESENT SOME IDEAS ENCHANTED TO GET THINGS DONE.

THANKS FOR PUSHING THESE PROJECTS FORWARD.

>> SPEAKER: THANKS FOR THE QUESTION.

MR. CHAPMAN, DO ANOTHER QUESTION?

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL SLIDE, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE PAGE WHERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FORMULATING THE CIP BUDGET AND FACTORS CONSIDERED.

CAN SOMEBODY TALK TO ME MORE ABOUT WHAT THE PATRICK HENRY COMPLETION FUNDS ARE? I THINK I KNOW WHAT THAT IS BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE.

>> SPEAKER: ABSOLUTELY.

ERIKA, ARE YOU STILL IN THE LINE?

>> SPEAKER: I'M HERE.

I KEEP TRYING TO CUT OFF MY VIDEO SO YOU CAN SEE EVERYBODY ELSE.

I KNOW IT'S HARD.

THANKS FOR THE QUESTION.

WE ADDED BACK IN THE FUNDING TO SUPPORT THE DEMOLITION OF THE SWING SPACE, THE FINAL INSTALLATION OF THE FINAL PARKING LOT AND THE TURF FIELDS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE INSTALLED AT THE PATRICK HENRY ONCE WE ARE DONE USING IT FOR DOUGLAS MACARTHUR.

>> SPEAKER: AND THAT WAS OUT OF THE REGULAR FUNDING FOR THE SITE -- THE REGULAR BUDGET FOR THE SITE?

>> SPEAKER: THOSE FUNDS WERE ADDED IN BECAUSE THAT FUNDING IS FUNDING WE ALREADY HAVE AND IT IS ALREADY BONDED AND APPROPRIATED TO US.

WE ARE PUTTING THOSE FUNDS TO THE DOUGLAS MACARTHUR TO THE SWING SPACE PROJECT REALLY TO BE ABLE TO DO THOSE RENOVATIONS.

AND THEN WE ARE ASKING FOR SUBSEQUENT FUNDS FOR THE COMPLETION OF THAT SITE.

PREVIOUSLY, THAT FUNDING WAS CARRIED PARTIALLY ON THE CITY SIDE FOR THE RECORD FOR THE INSTALLATION OF THE TURF AND PARTIALLY ON THE ACPS SIDE AS PART OF OUR MOU.

WE HAVE PUT THE FULL AMOUNT OF FUNDING INTO THE ACPS BUDGET.

>> SPEAKER: MR. WILSON?

>> SPEAKER: I THINK COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON WAS NEXT.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

I WAS GOING TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS CONCERNING OR IF YOU WILL EXPLAIN TO ME, TO US ABOUT MINNIE HOWARD AND THE HIGH SCHOOL PROJECT AND THE COLLOCATION OPPORTUNITIES.

>> SPEAKER: ERIKA?

>> SPEAKER: ERIKA IS NOT GOING TO GET OUT OF IT.

THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: IT'S OKAY.

DR. HUTCHINGS, DR. HART, ESTHER JENKS, ANYBODY ON THE CITY SIDE, FEEL FREE TO JUMP IN OR CUT ME OFF AT ANY TIME.

WHAT WE ARE REALLY LOOKING FOR AND WHY WE WANTED TO BRING THIS CONVERSATION TO YOU ALL IS BECAUSE WE ARE GETTING READY TO GET DEEPER INTO THE HIGH SCHOOL PROJECT WHERE YOU SHOULD BE BRINGING ON AN ARCHITECT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.

WE DO HAVE A SMALL PHASE CALLED PREDESIGNED THAT WE HAVE BUILT IN THERE TO REALLY DO ANY TESTS FOR US WE WANT TO DO, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, ESTABLISH OUR FINAL EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM OF SPACE, SO ALMOST LIKE A FINAL WE WILL CALL SITE-SPECIFIC EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATION.

WE WOULD ALSO HOPE THAT THAT SPACE PROGRAM WOULD INCLUDE ANY COLOCATED SERVICES SO THAT WE CAN MOVE EASILY THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO STAY ON TIME FOR THE PROJECT.

WHAT WE WERE ASKING OR HOPING SOME OF THE CONVERSATION WAS TONIGHT, JUST ABOUT WHAT ARE SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT MAYBE OUR LEADERSHIP NEEDS IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT DECISION.

ANY CONCERNS, GUIDANCE, ANYTHING THAT WE FEEL NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN SAY, OKAY, HERE IS DEFINITIVELY WHAT WE PLAN TO BUILD AT THE MINNIE HOWARD SITE.

IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

>> SPEAKER: YES, MISTER JENKS HE MAY WANT TO ADD ONTO THIS.

THIS HAS GIVEN US AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY LOOK AT ALL OF THE DIFFERENT COLLOCATION OPPORTUNITIES AND TO EXPLORE THEM THROUGHOUT THE PREDESIGNED PHASE.

THERE IS A LIST OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF COLLOCATIONS AND HAVING THIS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IS VERY HELPFUL FOR US AS WE TRANSITION INTO THE DESIGN PHASE.

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>> SPEAKER: I WOULD JUST ADD THAT THE FIRST PRIORITY ARE THE SCHOOL EDUCATIONAL REQUIREMENTS AND THEN THE SECOND PRIORITY IS TO LOOK TO SEE WHAT OTHER SPACE IS AVAILABLE AND THEN TO LOOK THROUGH THAT LIST AND TO SEE FROM MINNIE HOWARD WHAT WORKS BEST AND WHAT DOESN'T.

I WOULD IMAGINE MANY OF THOSE ITEMS ON THE LIST THERE WILL NOT BE ROOM FOR.

WE WILL SEE.

THAT IS WHAT THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS WILL BE ABLE TO TELL US.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

MR. WILSON?

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

I GUESS A QUESTION -- AS I READ IN THE ACTUAL PROPOSED CAP DOCUMENT, THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE SENTENCES.

ONE SAYS, A NEW SCHOOL IS ALSO PROPOSED IN THE OUT YEARS TO ACCOMMODATE ENROLLMENT GROWTH, THE GREAT CONFIGURATION IS NOT DETERMINED.

ANOTHER SENTENCE SAID THE NEW SCHOOL FOR 602 IS COULD BE USED FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL GRADE LEVEL TO ALLEVIATE CAPACITY DEMANDS.

FIRST OF ALL ANOTHER NAME, NEW SCHOOL.

THAT'S A VERY CREATIVE NAME.

CAN YOU GUYS GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF COMMENTARY ON KIND OF THE PLANNING? I KNOW THAT THIS IS SEVERAL YEARS OFF, BUT I ALSO NOTE THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING POTENTIALLY AT LAND ACQUISITION DEPENDING ON WHETHER WE USE ONE OF THE EXISTING PROPERTIES IN INVENTORY OR WHEN THOSE WILL COME TO FRUITION.

GIVE ME SOME NARRATIVE ON THE THINKING ON THIS SCHOOL AND I'M PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN -- WHILE I'M NOT ASKING TO PIN YOU DOWN, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF MINDS ON THE GREAT CONFIGURATION.

I NOTE THAT WE DEFERRED SOME ELEMENTARY CAPACITY INVESTMENTS TO MAKE SURE WE PRIORITIZED THIS, WHICH I UNDERSTAND WHY THAT IS.

I GUESS GIVE ME SOME GENERAL THINKING ON WHERE WE ARE GOING WITH THIS PROPOSAL.

>> SPEAKER: DR. HUTCHINGS, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING BEFORE I TOSS IT TO ERICA.

>> SPEAKER: WE ARE STILL IN THE PHASE OF REALLY EXPLORATION IN REGARDS TO OUR CAPACITY.

WE STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH A NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS.

ONE IS, WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH KIND OF HOW COVID-19 MOVING FORWARD IS GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT, EVEN ON ENROLLMENT.

NOT TO SAY THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN SOMEWHAT OF A DECLINE IN OUR AROMA FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR THAT THAT IS GOING TO MAINTAIN OVER THE NEXT YEARS.

IT'S NOT GOING TO SOLVE OUR OVERCAPACITY.

I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.

ONCE OUR BUILDINGS OPEN BACK UP, TRUST ME, EVERYONE IS GOING TO COME AND ENROLL THEIR KIDS BACK INTO OUR SCHOOL.

IT'S NOT GOING TO GO AWAY.

BUT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF FACTORS THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT.

THIS IS WHY WE HAVE NOT IDENTIFIED THE ACTUAL GRADE LEVEL AT THIS POINT YET.

BUT MS. GLUCK, YOU MAY WANT TO ELABORATE A LITTLE MORE ON THE NEW SCHOOL, THE LANGUAGE THAT WE USED RIGHT NOW, JUST BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE UNCERTAINTIES AND WE ARE STILL KIND OF EXPLORING THE ENROLLMENT ACROSS THE BOARD.

MS. GLUCK, IF YOU COULD ADD ONTO THAT.

>> SPEAKER: THANKS, DR. HUTCHINGS.

I THINK YOU COVERED IT PRETTY WELL.

BACK WHEN WE HAD THE TASK FORCE AND WE WENT TO THAT PROCESS AND THEIR RECOMMENDED PROJECTS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED IS THAT A NEW MIDDLE SCHOOL AND MIDDLE SCHOOL CAPACITY DROPPED OFF.

WE KNOW THAT IT IS A NEED.

WE ALSO HAD KIND OF KNEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS PROPOSED AS PART OF THESE NEW DEVELOPMENTS THAT THE CITY HAS GOING ON THAT HAVE DESIGNATED SPACES FOR SMALL SCHOOLS LIKE POTOMAC YARD, LIKE POTENTIALLY EISENHOWER WEST, EISENHOWER EASED.

THINKING ABOUT SOME OF THOSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ABLE TO SEIZE THAT OPPORTUNITY WHEN IT COMES TO FRUITION.

BUT THE ACTUAL GRADE LEVEL CONFIGURATION OF NEED HASN'T BEEN DETERMINED.

WE ALSO A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO DIDN'T STUDY OUR GRADE LEVEL CONFIGURATIONS AND SO THINKING ABOUT WHAT THAT 600 STUDENT SCHOOL COULD BE.

WE DIDN'T AT THE TIME WANT TO COMMIT TO ANY SPECIFIC GRADE LEVEL.

BUT I WOULD SAY, THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS PREVIOUSLY AT LEAST INDICATED THAT THAT MIDDLE SCHOOL CAPACITY SHOULD BE SOMETHING WE LOOK TO.

IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHERE IT IS, HOW ENROLLMENT IS, LIKE DR. HUTCHINGS SAID.

>> SPEAKER: I GUESS IT STRIKES ME AS -- THIS IS THE PART I WANTED TO GET A BIT MORE COLOR ON FROM MAYBE BOTH SIDES FROM THE CITY AS WELL.

IT STRIKES ME AS YOU GUYS LOOK AT THE LAND PIECE OF THIS, IDENTIFYING WHERE THIS WILL BE, THAT YOU GUYS ALL NEED TO BE JOINED AT THE HIP ON THE CITY AND SCHOOL SIDE AS YOU HUNT FOR THAT AND EXPLORE DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES.

I'M ALSO KIND OF MINDFUL THAT IT IS 2020 AND I THINK WE PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE

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THIS IN THE NEXT TWO TO THREE YEARS FIGURE OUT WHERE THE JOHN CHAPMAN MIDDLE OR JOHN CHAPMAN ELEMENTARY WILL BE.

I DON'T KNOW IF MIDDLE IS GOING TO WORK.

SORRY, JOHN.

>> SPEAKER: I WILL TAKE WHATEVER GREG IS GIVING OUT.

>> SPEAKER: IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, I THINK -- I JUST DON'T WANT TO BE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE WASTE OUR RUNWAY.

WE HAVE A LOT OF RUNWAY RIGHT NOW AND WE SHOULD ALL BE WORKING TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHERE THIS IS AND TRY TO PIN THAT DOWN OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

>> SPEAKER: AND MAYOR WILSON, YOU ARE SPOT ON.

I TELL YOU THAT WE USE OUR RUNWAY AS OFTEN AS A PUBLIC -- POSSIBLY CAN.

TRUST ME.

WE ARE WORKING COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE CITY.

THE THING IS RIGHT NOW, IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT OUR CIP AS A WHOLE, WE HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT ARE HAPPENING.

THE ONLY WAY WE ARE ABLE TO GET THROUGH SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS AND THE CHALLENGES AND OBSTACLES AND FOR SEEING KIND OF WHAT DIRECTION WE NEED TO GO, IS BY CONSULTING WITH THE CITY.

WE ARE WORKING HAND-IN-HAND WITH THE CITY, NOT JUST ON THIS NEW SCHOOL PROJECT BUT EVERY MAJOR PROJECT THAT WE ARE DOING WITHIN THE CITY.

MR. JENKS, I SAW THAT YOU WANTED TO CHIME IN.

>> SPEAKER: I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THAT GIVEN WE HAVE AN ECONOMIC DOWNTURN, IT WOULD BE A TERRIBLE THING TO WASTE.

AND USUALLY MEANS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY VALUES DROP AND LAND VALUES IN ALEXANDRIA ARE GOING TO RISE IN REAL TERMS OVER TIME.

THE QUICKER WE FIGURE THIS OUT AND CAN FIND A PIECE OF LAND, NOT ONLY DO WE LOCK IT IN AND IT IS THERE WHEN WE NEED IT, BUT ALSO WE RUN THE CHANCES OF GETTING A MUCH BETTER PRICE.

>> SPEAKER: YES.

FOR NANCY DAY, HALF PRICE FROM WHAT IT WAS APPRAISED THAT BEFORE, A COUPLE YEARS BEFORE THAT.

ALSO ECONOMIC DOWNTURN.

>> SPEAKER: WE WILL CONTINUE TO COLLABORATE AND TO WORK THROUGH THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: I HAVE MR. CHAPMAN AGAIN.

>> SPEAKER: I WAS JUST GOING TO HOP ON THE TAIL END OF THIS CONVERSATION.

IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY I THINK ACPS IN THE CITY HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST TO TRY TO LOOK AT LAND ACQUISITION.

CAN STAFF LET US KNOW BOTH BODIES KNOW IF THERE IS ANYTHING WE CAN BE DOING DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF POLICY OR GUIDANCE TO HELP STAFF KIND OF GET OVER THE HUMP THAT THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO DO LAST GO ROUND WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT LAND ACQUISITION? THAT'S ONE THING THAT I HAVE.

I CAN FOR MEMBER THE OTHER.

I WILL BE QUITE NOW.

>> SPEAKER: YOU MAY HAVE A DISTRACTION, I THINK JUST A LITTLE ONE.

DR. EVE?

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT QUESTION.

THAT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT.

I WANT TO ALWAYS REMIND PEOPLE THAT WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL PROJECT WE ARE INVESTING A LOT OF MONEY INTO THAT PROJECT, BUT OUR CURRENT HIGH SCHOOL BUILDING, THE KING STREET CAMPUS, THE CAPACITY THERE IS 2900 SEATS.

WITH THIS NEW BUILDING AT MINNIE HOWARD, WE ARE LOOKING AT A 1600 CAPACITY.

IF YOU ADD THOSE NUMBERS TOGETHER, THAT IS 4500.

EVEN THOUGH WE ARE, OUR ENROLLMENT THIS YEAR IS A LITTLE DOWN FROM WHAT WE WERE ANTICIPATING, WE HAVE 41 -- 4151 KIDS IN THERE RIGHT NOW.

THIS BUILDING ISN'T EVEN GOING TO BE OPEN FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.

I THINK THIS IS REALLY CRITICAL.

I THINK THAT -- I AGREE THAT THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO INVEST IN PROPERTY, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, BUT I KNOW WHEN I LISTEN TO THE FIRST WORK SESSION THAT YOU ALL HAD ON THE CAPITAL BUDGET THAT THE FUNDING CONSTRAINTS ARE VERY REAL.

I WOULD LOVE TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THAT FUNDING MIGHT COME FROM IF MONEY CAN BE SET ASIDE FOR LAND ACQUISITION, THAT WOULD CERTAINLY THINK THAT WOULD BE A VERY SMART MOVE IF WE COULD DO THAT.

>> SPEAKER: TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, I THINK THE MONEY COULD BE BONDED.

THE OTHER REASON TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS POINT IN TIME IS BOND INTEREST RATES ARE ABOUT AS LOW AS THEY ARE EVER GOING TO GET.

AND SO IT IS A MATTER OF IF WE FIND THE OPPORTUNITY WE CAN PROBABLY PIECE TOGETHER WHAT WE NEED IN ORDER TO ACQUIRE WHAT'S NECESSARY.

>> SPEAKER: GREAT.

MR. GARY.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

I GUESS FOLLOWING UP A BIT ON THE MAYOR'S QUESTION, HAS IT BEEN DECIDED YET? I KNOW WE NEED ANOTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL BUT ARE WE PLANNING TO BUILD ANOTHER MIDDLE SCHOOL OR WERE YOU PLANNING TO EXPAND AT BOTH OUR CURRENT MIDDLE SCHOOLS

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BECAUSE THERE WAS AT LEAST IN MY OPINION I FEEL BOTH OUR CURRENT MIDDLE SCHOOLS ARE NOT ONLY OVERCROWDED BUT I THINK OF A PRETTY LARGE SIZE.

FIRST QUESTION.

SECOND QUESTION I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T ASK THIS BECAUSE I HAVE ASKED THAT THIS LAST TWO OR THREE MEETINGS, I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER WHICH SCHOOL IT IS.

BUT IS IT NOW FEASIBLE TO BE ABLE TO BUILD ON SITE AT CORA KELLY OR GEORGE MASON.

A DORMER WHICH I ASKED ABOUT A YEAR AGO.

>> SPEAKER: TO ENTER YOUR FIRST QUESTION, WE STILL ARE HAVING SOME DISCUSSIONS AROUND THE MIDDLE SCHOOL CAPACITY.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS.

I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DOING BECAUSE THEN PEOPLE TAKE THESE CONVERSATIONS AND THEN EVERYBODY SEND US E-MAIL TO SAY WE ARE CHANGING EVERYTHING AROUND -- ABOUT OUR CIP.

BUT WE HAVE TO EXPLORE THE K8 MODELS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, ESPECIALLY IN PLACES LIKE CORA KELLY WHERE WE KNOW THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE AN INCREASE AND THE POTOMAC YARD AREA THAT COULD AFFORD FOR US TO EXPAND THAT GRADE CONFIGURATION TO ACCOMMODATE MORE STUDENTS THERE.

THAT WILL ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE STUDENTS FROM DW.

BUT THIS CONCEPT CAN HELP IN MANY WAYS.

IT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL WITH PATRICK HENRY AS WELL AS WITH JEFFERSON HOUSTON.

SO IT IS A MODEL THAT CAN WORK.

SOME FAMILIES DO WANT SMALLER MIDDLE SCHOOL EXPENSES FOR THEIR KIDS.

THAT IS A WAY TO BE ABLE TO OFFER THOSE PARTICULAR OPPORTUNITIES, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A VERY LARGE MIDDLE SCHOOLS.

THEY ARE NOT TYPICAL SIZE FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL.

WE HAVE 1500 STUDENTS IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS.

THEY ARE LIKE HIGH SCHOOL SIZE.

THAT'S TO ANSWER YOUR FIRST QUESTION.

YOUR SECOND QUESTION IN REGARDS -- CAN YOU REPEATED? I LOST IT.

>> SPEAKER: IT WAS HARD FOR ME TO EVEN REMEMBER.

CORA KELLY OR GEORGE MASON.

I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH SCHOOL WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IF IT'S FEASIBILITY.

>> SPEAKER: ERIKA, SHE CAN PROVIDE AN UPDATE IN REGARD TO THE FEASIBILITY ON BOTH.

CORA KELLY AS WELL AS GEORGE MASON.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

AS I STATED PREVIOUSLY, WE ARE STILL PURSUING THOSE FEASIBILITY STUDIES.

THEY ARE NOT YET COMPLETE.

WHAT THE OUTCOME IS BASICALLY IS THAT ANYTHING IS FEASIBLE WITH MONEY AND ZONING AND SUPPORT.

GEORGE MASON, THE SITE IS PHYSICALLY BIG ENOUGH TO BUILD ON THAT SITE.

THERE IS OPEN SPACE BACK THERE THAT IS CURRENTLY USED AS WELL AS JUST AN IMPACT TO THE OVERALL LANDSCAPING AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER.

ON CORA KELLY, THE SITE IS ACTUALLY NONCONFORMING NOW BECAUSE SOME OF THE BUILDING OVERLAPS INTO THE PUBLIC OPEN SPACE THAT IS ESTABLISHED THERE.

IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO BUILD ON SITE IN THAT LOCATION UNLESS A REZONING WERE TO OCCUR.

THERE IS ALSO SOME FLOODING AND STORM WATER IMPACTS TO THAT SITE.

THERE IS A LOT OF DIFFERENT CONSIDERATIONS.

I THINK WE -- WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT'S PROPOSED CIP ACKNOWLEDGE THAT A PERMANENT ELEMENTARY SWING SPACE IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS FISCALLY FEASIBLE WITHIN THE CIP.

SO WE WILL HAVE TO WORK WITHIN OUR EXISTING RESOURCES.

HOWEVER, BY PUSHING THOSE PROJECTS OUT, WHICH WE FELT WE HAD TO DO BECAUSE OF THE PHYSICAL CONSTRAINTS AND OTHER PROJECTS WE HAVE GOING ON, IT DOES GIVE US A BIT MORE TIME TO OUT.

BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SIMPLY, YES, WE CAN BUILD ON SITE.

THERE IS JUST DIFFERENT IMPACTS THAT THAT HAS.

>> SPEAKER: OKAY.

I'M GLAD WE ARE GETTING SOMEWHERE AFTER TWO YEARS WITH THAT.

I GUESS NOW MY CONCERN BECOMES WHAT YOU JUST BROUGHT UP AT THE END, MS. GLICK, IS WHERE ARE WE GOING TO PUT THESE KIDS WHEN WE HAVE TO BUILD.

WE HAVE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS MULTIPLE TIMES TO TRY TO FIND WING SPACE AND WE HAVE ALREADY SAID WE ARE NOT GOING TO USE PATRICK HENRY AGAIN.

THAT LEAVES US IN A VERY PRECARIOUS POSITION, AT LEAST IN MY OPINION, AND I KNOW WHAT THE CITY MANAGER SAID WAS, IN A DOWNTURN, PROPERTIES MIGHT BE MORE REALISTICALLY ABLE TO PURCHASE.

I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT TO SAY.

MULTIPLE TIMES WE HAVE TRIED TO FIND SWING SPACE SO WHERE ARE WE GOING TO PUT OUR KIDS WHEN WE HAVE TO REBUILD THE SCHOOL? WE CLEARLY HAVE SEVERAL SCHOOLS AND SITES THAT WE HAVE TO DO WORK ON, SO I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO START NOW.

>> SPEAKER: I THINK THIS IS A DILEMMA THAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT HONESTLY FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW.

WE STARTED HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE HIGH

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SCHOOL PROJECT AND THE MINNIE HOWARD CAMPUS AND KNOWING THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BUILD WHERE THE FIELDS ARE AND WE DO HAVE A BUILDING THAT WE DO OWN WHICH IS THE CURRENT MINNIE HOWARD CAMPUS THAT WE MAY HAVE TO USE POTENTIALLY AS SWING SPACE IN THE FUTURE.

BUT THESE ARE DISCUSSIONS THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD IS GOING TO HAVE TO WORK THROUGH BECAUSE WE DO HAVE LIMITED BUILDINGS.

GRANTED, A YEAR AGO WE DID NOT HAVE ACCESS TO ALL OF THESE POTENTIAL VACANT WELDING'S THAT WE DO -- THAT WE MAY HAVE IN THE FUTURE.

BECAUSE OF COVID.

BECAUSE THINGS CAN BE HAPPENING WITHIN THE CITY THAT MIGHT PROVIDE US SOME OPPORTUNITIES.

SO NOW WE ARE ABLE TO POTENTIALLY HAVE SOME OTHER POSSIBILITIES.

BUT THIS IS DEFINITELY A DILEMMA THAT WE HAVE HAD.

WE HAD THIS WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DOUGLAS MACARTHUR.

PATRICK HENRY, WE WERE ABLE TO REMEDY THAT ISSUE WITH THE PATRICK HENRY OR THE OLD PATRICK HENRY, BUT WE ALSO AGREED THAT THAT WILL BE TORN AT -- DOWN AT THE MOMENT THE STUDENTS GO BACK TO DOUGLAS MACARTHUR.

WE ARE STAYING TRUE TO THAT.

THAT IS NOT AN OPTION ON THE TABLE.

I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO CONFUSE THAT.

BUT THE ONLY OTHER BUILDING THAT WE KNOW WE DO OWN IS MINNIE HOWARD.

AND WE KNOW WE ARE BUILDING A NEW BUILDING ON THE MINNIE HOWARD CAMPUS.

THAT IS A FEASIBLE OPTION FOR US TO USE FOR SWING SPACE, POTENTIALLY FOR SEVERAL YEARS, BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A NUMBER OF SCHOOLS OVER TIME THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO REBUILD.

IT'S NOT DURING A RENOVATION, IT'S REBUILD.

THAT ALSO BRINGS SOME ADDITIONAL CHALLENGES FOR US.

IT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS.

>> SPEAKER: HELLO.

>> SPEAKER: MS. PEPPER.

>> SPEAKER: FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THAT THE MANAGER IS SPOT ON WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT HOW THE BOND RATES NOW ARE ABOUT AS LOW AS THEY ARE EVER GOING TO BE.

NOW WOULD BE SMART FOR US TO JUMP IN.

AND THE SAME THING FOR THE LAND.

I THINK HE IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ABOUT THAT.

I WANTED TO ASK IF WE WERE GOING TO BE BUYING ADDITIONAL LAND, HOW MUCH LAND -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION.

LET'S PUT ERIKA OR SOMEBODY ON THE SPOT.

SHE LOVES THAT, POOR THING.

HOW MANY KIDS WOULD WE BE BUILDING FOR? DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA? AND HOW MUCH LAND WOULD WE BE AFTER? THAT'S ONE OF MY QUESTIONS.

I'M REALLY GLAD TO HEAR DR. HUTCHINGS COMING OUT SO STRONGLY REMEMBERING THE PROMISE THAT WAS MADE TO PATRICK HENRY NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT COMMUNITY, THE SCHOOL COMMUNITY ITSELF.

THAT WE CANNOT USE PATRICK HENRY FOR PERMANENT SWING SPACE.

I WISH THAT WE COULD.

IT IS HEARTBREAKING THAT WE CAN'T.

BUT PROMISES WERE MADE AND I WAS ONE OF THOSE THAT PARTICIPATED IN THAT, SO I FEEL THAT I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.

ANYWAY -- I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO MANY QUESTIONS ON THE TABLE HERE, BUT I DO HAVE ANOTHER ONE.

THAT IS, I THINK THAT 1500 STUDENTS IN MIDDLE SCHOOL IS REALLY QUITE BIG.

AS YOU SAID, IT WAS HIGH SCHOOL SIZE.

THAT'S TOO MUCH, REALLY, FOR THAT PARTICULAR AGE GROUP, IN MY OPINION.

AND THE LAST QUESTION, AND I WILL LEAVE YOU ALONE, IS THIS.

I GUESS I HAVE LOST TRACK OF THE CONVERSATION, BUT WHERE ARE WE ON THE POSSIBILITY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS AT A SITE?

>> SPEAKER: SO WHERE IS THE CAPACITY? SAY THAT AGAIN, MS. PEPPER.

>> SPEAKER: WHICH QUESTION? I WAS TALKING -- THIS LAST ONE WAS ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I HAD LOST TRACK OF THE CONVERSATION THAT THE COMMUNITY SEEMS TO BE HAVING ABOUT CHO LOCATING THAT ON A SCHOOL PROPERTY.

WHERE ARE WE ON THAT? IS THAT ANY FINAL DECISION OR ANY CONSENSUS?

>> SPEAKER: PART OF THE COLLOCATION OPPORTUNITIES.

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>> SPEAKER: I KNOW IT'S ON THE LIST -- >> SPEAKER: DURING THE PREVIOUS RAIN PHASE, FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, OUR DESIGNERS WILL BE PUTTING TOGETHER OPTIONS WITH THOSE OF DIFFERENT GOAL LOCATION OPPORTUNITIES, INCLUDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, INTO THOSE DESIGNS.

THE BOARD WILL NEED -- AND CITY COUNCIL, I'M ASSUMING, BUT THE BOARD WILL DEFINITELY NEED TO MAKE A DECISION BY JANUARY ON WHAT DESIGNS WE WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE OR MOVE FORWARD WITH.

>> SPEAKER: OKAY.

HOW ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS?

>> SPEAKER: MR. JINKS WAS GOING.

>> SPEAKER: THE LIST OF COLLOCATION AND GO THROUGH THEM INCLUDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND SEE WHAT WORKS AND WHAT DOESN'T.

I THINK FOR ANY CITY OR SCHOOL SITE WE ARE CONSIDERING NEW CONSTRUCTION, THE QUESTIONS WILL ALSO BE WHAT ARE THE OTHER COLLOCATION OPPORTUNITIES WHEN WE PLAN THOSE SITES.

SOME THINGS WILL WORK, SOME THINGS WON'T.

>> SPEAKER: I'M NOT SAYING FOR OR AGAINST IT, I'M JUST SAYING THAT I WANT -- I WANTED TO FOLLOW THE CONVERSATION.

>> SPEAKER: YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS.

YES, WE DO HAVE LARGE MIDDLE SCHOOLS HERE IN THE CITY OF ALEXANDRIA AND THEY HAVE BEEN LARGE FOR AWHILE BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE TWO OF THEM AND OUR POPULATIONS ARE GROWING.

I THINK THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MITIGATE SOME OF THAT WITH SOME OF THE K8 SCHOOLS THAT WE HAD, ONE ON THE EAST AND ONE ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN ARE FAMILIES WHO WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE SMALLER MIDDLE SCHOOL EXPERIENCE.

BUT IT IS DEFINITELY A CONVERSATION AND NOT JUST A CONVERSATION BUT SOME ACTION THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN TO REMEDY THE MIDDLE SCHOOL CONCERN THAT WE HAVE HAD FOR A WILD.

1500, YES, IT IS A LARGE SCHOOL, MIDDLE SCHOOL.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT EVEN WITH THE SCHOOL BEING 1500 STUDENTS, THE WAY WE STRUCTURE OUR SCHOOLS WE REALLY TRY TO KEEP THEM STRUCTURED BY GRADE LEVELS TO MAKE THEM SMALLER LEARNING COMMUNITIES.

SO SIXTH GRADE, THEY HAVE THEIR WING, SEVENTH GRADE HAS A WING, EIGHTH GRADE HAS A WING.

THEY SHARE SOME OF THE ELECTIVE SPACES.

THAT DOES ALLOW FOR STUDENTS AT EACH GRADE LEVEL TO STILL BE ABLE TO KIND OF FEEL AS IF THEY ARE IN A SMALLER LEARNING ENVIRONMENT AND IT DOESN'T FEEL AS LARGE UNTIL YOU GO TO LUNCH OR GOING UPSTAIRS TO YOUR ELECTIVE CLASSES.

THAT'S WHERE YOU REALIZE, OKAY, I'M NOT JUST GOING NEXT DOOR TO MY CONTENT AREA CLASS.

THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THESE HALLWAYS.

BUT WE ARE WORKING JUST TO MAKE THE LEARNING EXPERIENCE MORE MANAGEABLE AND NOT AS LARGE FOR OUR STUDENTS.

AND I ALSO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE SOME PREPARATION IN GOING TO A LARGE HIGH SCHOOL FOR THE KIDS.

THAT DOES GIVE THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY TO TRANSITION INTO ONE OF THE LARGEST HIGH SCHOOLS IN THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA, AND POTENTIALLY ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

IT HELPS THEM TRANSITION A LITTLE SMOOTHER WHEN THEY GO INTO TC.

>> SPEAKER: MY LAST QUESTION, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN LOOK INTO THE FUTURE THAT FAR, BUT WE WERE TALKIN POSSIBILITY OF NEEDING TO BUY MORE LAND AND HOW MANY STUDENTS WOULD WE BE THINKING OF BUILDING FOR?

>> SPEAKER: THIS IS FOR WHICH CIP OPTION?

>> SPEAKER: WELL EMMA IF YOU ARE GOING TO BUY LAND, AND I WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW THE BOND RATE WOULD BE MORE REASONABLE AT THIS TIME, SHALL WE SAY.

AND LAND ALSO.

>> SPEAKER: GOT IT.

SOME OF THE CONVERSATION WE WERE HAVING EARLIER, WE WERE FOR REFERRING TO THE NEW SCHOOL THAT IS CURRENTLY.

>> SPEAKER: THE NEW SCHOOL.

WHICH I UNDERSTAND THEY ARE GOING TO NAME AFTER JACKSON -- CHAPMAN IS THAT RIGHT? I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE THE CHAPMAN PEPPER SCHOOL.

>> SPEAKER: I SUSPECT IT WILL DEPEND ON WHAT TURNS UP ON THE DELETE WORKSHEET.

>> SPEAKER: I WAS GOING TO SAY PEPPER CHAPMAN, DELL.

>> SPEAKER: I LIKE THAT.

>> SPEAKER: PEPPER CHAPMAN FOR SURE.

>> SPEAKER: YEAH, WE WERE LOOKING AT THE LAND ACQUISITION IN REGARDS TO THE NEW SCHOOL THAT WE HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED THE GRADE LEVEL FOR AT THIS POINT.

>> SPEAKER: OKAY.

BUT I AGREE WITH JUSTIN.

NEW SCHOOL IS SO CATCHY TO CALL IT A NEW SCHOOL.

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CATCHY NAME.

>> SPEAKER: MADAM CHAIR? MAY I HAVE A FOLLOW-UP TO SOMETHING THAT MS. PEPPER WAS SAYING.

>> SPEAKER: SURE.

>> SPEAKER: WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING ABOUT THE COLLOCATION OPPORTUNITIES FOR MINNIE HOWARD, ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW, IF YOU ARE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, ARE THERE ANY COMMUNITY OUTREACH FORUMS FOR OUR PARENTS AND COMMUNITY? AND IF SO, IS THE CITY DOING SOMETHING ON OUR SIDE FOR THE SAME SINCE THIS IS GOING HAND-IN-HAND?

>> SPEAKER: YES.

I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THAT, MS. JACKSON.

WE DO HAVE A HIGH SCHOOL PROJECT MEETING THIS WEEK, ACTUALLY TOMORROW -- THURSDAY.

I BELIEVE IT IS ON THURSDAY.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M RIGHT.

I SEE EVERYBODY NODDING YES.

SO WE DO HAVE A MEETING THIS THURSDAY WITH THE COMMUNITY TO SHARE OUT SOME OF THE PROGRESS THAT HAS BEEN MADE WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL PROJECT AND ALSO TO TALK ABOUT THE COLLOCATION OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE WILL BE EXPLORING DURING THE PREDESIGN PHASE.

SO THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN THIS WEEK.

>> SPEAKER: AND CITY STAFF ARE PARTICIPATING IN THAT SESSION.

>> SPEAKER: OKAY.

THANK YOU, MISTER JENKS.

THE CITY IS NOT DOING SOMETHING SEPARATELY ABOUT THIS? THEY WOULD PARTICIPATING IN THE SCHOOL BOARD -- SO WILL THE CITY HAVE ANYTHING ON ITS WEBSITE TO SAY THAT THIS IS GOING ON FOR THE COMMUNITY? OR WILL IT JUST BE ON THE SCHOOL'S WEBSITE?

>> SPEAKER: I WILL MAKE SURE IT IS ON THE CITY WEBSITE.

I SAW AN ANNOUNCEMENT FOR IT TODAY.

>> SPEAKER: THINK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: MS. JACKSON, IT ALSO WILL BE RECORDED SO PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT ABLE TO WATCH IT THIS THURSDAY WITH THE VIRTUAL WORLD NOW WE CAN RECORD EVERYTHING.

PEOPLE CAN TUNE IN AND WE WILL BE SURE TO HAVE THAT LINK AVAILABLE AS WELL.

>> SPEAKER: MR. AT CYCLING, HAVE SOMETHING?

>> SPEAKER: I APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS.

IN REGARDS TO THE GROWING NUMBER OF STUDENTS, DO WE HAVE SORT OF A HEAT MAP OR A CONCENTRATION OF WHERE THE LARGEST BODY OF STUDENTS ARE COMING FROM? OR IS IT A CERTAIN GEOGRAPHICAL AREA IN THE CITY? AS IT SPREAD OUT?

>> SPEAKER: MS. KULIK, YOU CAN REGARD IN PERTAINS TO THE ENROLLMENT AND OUR NUMBERS CURRENTLY.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

IN OUR ENROLLMENT OVER THE PAST TEN YEARS HAS GROWN KIND OF THROUGHOUT THE SCHOOL DIVISION, THROUGHOUT THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE CITY OF ALEXANDRIA.

WE HAD PREVIOUSLY SEEN THE BIGGEST CONCENTRATION OF THAT GROWTH ON THE WEST END, WHICH IS WHY WE DID BRING ON FERDINAND TODAY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

AND NOW A LOT OF IT IS JUST GROWTH THROUGHOUT THE CITY AS WELL AS RETENTION.

SOME OF WHAT DRIVES OUR NUMBERS UP IS KEEPING OUR STUDENTS YEAR OVER YEAR, WHEREAS PREVIOUSLY MAYBE WE HADN'T.

THIS YEAR IN PARTICULAR WE DID TALK ABOUT WE ACTUALLY LOST STUDENTS IN THE SEPTEMBER 30 TO DECEMBER 30 COUNTS.

AND A LOT OF WAS IN THE KINDERGARTEN AND A LACK OF REGISTRATION AT THE KINDERGARTEN LEVEL.

A MAP IS SOMETHING CERTAINLY WE COULD PROVIDE.

WE ARE WORKING THROUGH ALL OF THAT DATA NOW AND WE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH THE CITY ON THE ENROLLMENT PROJECTIONS AND THE STUDENT GENERATION PROCESS.

>> SPEAKER: I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE A HEAT MAP WITH MORE SPECIFIC NUMBERS TO KIND OF GUIDANCE ON COUNSEL TO SEE WHAT WE ARE DOING AND WHERE THE LARGEST CONCENTRATION IS AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO EVEN IT OUT, IF ANY.

AS FAR AS PROJECTS THAT COME TO FULL COUNSEL.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: MAYOR WILSON?

>> SPEAKER: IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE OWNING PROPERTY IN POTOMAC YARD.

WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH THAT?

>> SPEAKER: WE ARE CURRENTLY STILL IN COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY AND TALKING THROUGH SPECIFICALLY HOW THAT PROPERTY WILL BE USED.

WE ARE ALSO HAVING DISCUSSIONS VIRGINIA TECH BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW THAT IS ALSO THE AREA OF OUR VIRGINIA TECH INNOVATION CAMPUS.

WE ARE STILL WORKING THROUGH THOSE LOGISTICS.

>> SPEAKER: SO I GUESS JUST TO FOLLOW UP.

IF I DON'T -- ASSUMING THAT NEW SCHOOL IS NOT GOING IN POTOMAC YARD, IF I DON'T SEE ANY MONEY IN THE TENURE CIP, HOW DO WE MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN THERE? OR ARE WE NOT PLANNING TO MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN IN THE NEXT DECADE?

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>> SPEAKER: WE ARE PLANNING TO MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN IN THE NEXT DECADE.

BUT WE ARE STILL KIND OF WORKING THROUGH SOME OF THOSE LOGISTICS.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE ARE ADDING AND INCLUDING THINGS INTO THE CIP, THAT WE HAVE REALLY LAID OUT HOW WE WANT TO USE PARTICULAR SPACES, AT LEAST HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

OUR MAIN FOCUS, WE LOOK AT THE TEN YEAR BUT AS YOU KNOW A TEN YEAR CIP WILL CHANGE.

THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT WILL CHANGE.

WE TRY TO FOCUS MORE SO ON FY 22 OR THE FOLLOWING YEAR, BUT WE ARE LOOKING BEYOND.

WE TRY NOT TO JUST INCLUDE ITEMS WITHOUT ANY CONTEXT.

AND SOME MORE CONCRETE INFORMATION.

THAT'S WHY THE NEW SCHOOL, YOU SEE THAT IN THERE.

WE DO KNOW HOW MANY STUDENTS WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE.

WE MAY NOT KNOW THE GRADE LEVEL BUT WE HAVE SOME MORE CONCRETE INFORMATION THAT WE CAN SHARE BUT WE ARE STILL WORKING THROUGH THE LOGISTICS WITH THE POTOMAC YARD SITE AND WE ARE WORKING WITH THE CITY ON THAT.

>> SPEAKER: IS THERE -- SHOULD I ASSUME THAT THERE IS A CHANCE THAT THAT IS NEW SCHOOL? OR IS THAT -- I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS SHOULD I EXPECT THERE IS ANOTHER 68, $69 MILLION SCHOOL BILL THAT'S GOING TO SHOW UP IN THE TENURE CIP AT SOME POINT HERE? OR IS IT LIKELY THAT IT'S ONE OF THE -- IT'S A REWORKING OF EXISTING RESOURCES?

>> SPEAKER: THE INITIAL CONVERSATION WE WERE HAVING ABOUT THE POTOMAC YARD LOCATION, THIS STARTED WHEN WE WERE DOING THE HIGH SCHOOL PROJECT, BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION OF THE VIRGINIA TECH INNOVATION CAMPUS THAT THAT SEEMED LIKE THE MOST FEASIBLE ENVIRONMENTS.

BUT SINCE THEN WE HAVE BEEN HAVING DISCUSSIONS AROUND POTENTIALLY ACCOMMODATING SOME OF THE MIDDLE SCHOOL POTENTIALLY, WE HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS AROUND WHAT COULD THIS PARTNERSHIP WITH VIRGINIA TECH ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE.

SO THERE COULD BE SOME COST THAT IS ALSO TAKEN ON BY VIRGINIA TECH AS WELL.

THESE ARE SOME LOGISTICS AND WE ARE WORKING THROUGH.

I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING IS DEFINITIVE OR SET IN STONE.

I APOLOGIZE, MY FAMILY JUST CAME IN.

>> SPEAKER: MADAM CHAIR?

>> SPEAKER: YES.

>> SPEAKER: I THINK MR. CHAPMAN WAS TRYING TO GET IN, TOO.

BUILDING OFF OF COUNCILMAN SIEFERT IN POINT.

OUT OF CURIOSITY, ARE WE LOOKING AT PUTTING A SCHOOL IN SOMEWHERE ALONG THAT CORRIDOR FROM LANDMARK SOUTH.

I'M LOOKING AT A MAP RIGHT NOW AND I'M THINKING ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING IN THERE.

WHAT'S COMING IN AT BIG LOTS AND BJ'S AND THE GREENHILL PROPERTY THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WHERE AND WORKSTATION IS.

OR SOME OF MY FAVORITE RESTAURANTS ARE.

JUST SAYING THAT WE NEED TO PRESERVE SOME OF THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE IN THE GREENHILL PROPERTY AREA.

BUT THAT IS FOR THE CITY STAFF, NOT THE SCHOOL STAFF.

BUT BACK TO MY POINT, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S KIND OF A DEAD ZONE FOR SCHOOLS BECAUSE WHEN WE LOOK AT THE BEAUREGARD CORE GUARD, I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE PLENTY OF SCHOOLS.

I ALWAYS FEEL LIKE THIS KIND OF SECTION ON THE FAR WEST AND IS KIND OF A SCHOOL DESERT.

>> SPEAKER: LET ME JUMP IN ON THAT ONE, DR. HUTCHINGS.

YES, SAMUEL TUCKER, WHICH IS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS ONE OF OUR MOST OVERCROWDED SCHOOLS AND WITH NO FORESEEABLE END TO THAT BEING OVERCROWDED.

AS PART OF THE LANDMARK MALL REDEVELOPMENT AND THE GREENHILL PROPERTY, REDEVELOPMENT PLANS, WE DID WORK WITH THE CITY ON MAKING SURE THERE COULD BE SPACE FOR SOME SORT OF COLOCATED SCHOOL USE.

AS THOSE PROJECTS DEVELOP WE WILL CONTINUE TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT.

HOWEVER IT PLAYS OUT.

AND WE ARE HOPING TO HAVE SOME SCHOOL PRESENCE THERE.

AGAIN, NOT SURE ON GRADE LEVEL.

NOT SURE ON SIZE.

BUT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY DID MAKE SURE TO INCLUDE US IN THAT PROCESS AS WE REDEVELOP, ESPECIALLY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

>> SPEAKER: MR. CHAPMAN?

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THAT, MS. KULIK.

I DID FORGET ABOUT WHAT WE WERE DOING WITH GREENHILL.

I THINK FOR CITY STAFF, MAYBE MR. MANAGER, AT SOME POINT COULD THERE BE A

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CHECK-IN WITH COUNSEL IF WE GET DOWN -- IF WE FEEL THAT GREENHILL IS GETTING DOWN THE ROAD AND WE CAN KIND OF CRYSTALLIZE WHAT WE MIGHT SEE THERE.

I THINK AS ANY DISCUSSIONS FURTHER WITH LANDMARK I THINK WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE THAT SAME OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT THERE.

I THINK THAT COULD BE HELPFUL TO WHAT COUNCILMAN GEARY WAS POINTING TO.

I WAS STILL TRYING TO GET MAYBE -- MAYBE MR. WILSON GOT THE ANSWER HE WAS LOOKING FOR.

I WAS NOT CLEAR ON WHERE WE ARE WITH POTOMAC YARDS.

I THINK YOU RAISE A GOOD POINT ABOUT WANTING TO SEE IF THIS NEW SCHOOL IS GOING TO BE POTOMAC YARD SCHOOL OR IF THERE IS A SEPARATE POSSIBLE FUTURE $60 MILLION PLUS BUSH FOR A NEW SCHOOL WAS THAT -- WAS THERE AN ANSWER ON THAT? I DIDN'T GET THAT CLEAR.

I THINK THE FAMILY THROUGH THAT OFF.

>> SPEAKER: AT THIS TIME WE DO NOT HAVE ANOTHER SCHOOL IN OUR CIP IN POTOMAC YARDS.

BUT WE ARE STILL WORKING THROUGH HOW WE USE THE SPACE AT POTOMAC YARDS.

>> SPEAKER: AND AS A FOLLOW-UP TO THAT, IN THE INITIAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT A POSSIBLE POTOMAC YARD SCHOOL, I THINK THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION EARLIER ON AROUND KIND OF HOUSING BEING IN THAT SAME NEIGHBORHOOD, AS PART OF WHAT'S BEING DONE IN THAT GENERAL VICINITY WITH POSSIBLY THAT BUILDING.

EVEN IF WE DON'T LOOK AT ANY OF THE OTHER FACILITIES THAT ARE ON THE CURRENT CIP FOR HOUSING, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THIS MIGHT BE A VERY LIKELY SITE WHERE THAT IS GOING TO BE, JUST BECAUSE OF THE HIGH RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBOR -- NATURE OF WHAT'S GOING IN ON ROUTE ONE.

IS THERE ANY THOUGHT TO STAFF AROUND GETTING AHEAD OF SOME OF THE BIGGER QUESTIONS AND FIGURING OUT SOME OF THE ANSWERS TO THE BIGGER QUESTIONS AROUND CALL LOCATION OF HOUSING AS IT RELATES TO THAT SITE VERSUS SOMETHING LIKE GEORGE MASON OR KELLY OR WHAT HAVE YOU? AND GETTING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD DEBATES.

REALIZING THERE IS A REAL OPPORTUNITY AT POTOMAC YARDS AND FOCUSING EFFORTS ON ANSWERING SOME OF THE POLICY QUESTIONS AROUND CALL LOCATION.

AS IT RELATES TO HOUSING SPECIFICALLY.

>> SPEAKER: ABSOLUTELY.

I KNOW MR. JAMES CAAN ELABORATE ON THIS.

OUR CONVERSATION AROUND AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND SCHOOLS IS ACTUALLY GENERATED FROM THAT ACTUAL CONVERSATION ABOUT THE VIRGINIA TECH INNOVATION SITE IS AN IDEAL LOCATION FOR THE CALL LOCATION IN REGARDS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND SCHOOLS AND A UNIVERSITY ALL IN ONE.

AND BUSINESSES AS WELL.

MR. JENKS, YOU MAY WANT TO ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT.

>> SPEAKER: SURE.

WE HAVE A WHOLE BLOCK.

IS BASICALLY UP THERE ON ROUTE ONE.

THE ATTENTION WITH THAT BLOCK IS TO MIX IT.

SCHOOL AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WORKFORCE HOUSING, TO BE DETERMINED WHETHER IT'S STACKED, SCHOOL BELOW, HOUSING BELOW, OR SIDE BY SIDE.

AS WE SIT DOWN WITH THE SCHOOLS, AS THEY ARE READY TO DO THAT, WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT THE BEST CONFIGURATION ON THAT PROPERTY IS.

THAT IS INTENDED TO BE NOT UNLIKE THE FIRE STATION, IT'S NOT TOO FAR FROM THERE.

A CLEARLY GOOD MIX OF USES.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: MAYOR WILSON, DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? I JUST SAW YOUR HAND.

>> SPEAKER: I DIDN'T PULL IT DOWN.

>> SPEAKER: THAT'S OKAY.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN DOING A COMBINATION OF WAVING AND HAND RAISING AND LOWERING.

> ON THE CITY COUNCIL.

>> SPEAKER: I KNOW.

IT'S THREE PAGES OF YOU ALL.

I SEE MS. BENNETT PARKER.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

FOLLOWING UP ON THE QUESTION ABOUT WAS THE CIP AND WHAT'S ON THE CIP.

CAN SOMEONE TALK TO ME ABOUT THE MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS FOR THE FIELDS AT GW AND?

>> SPEAKER: MS. KULIK.

>> SPEAKER: IF JOHN FINNIGAN ISN'T BACK I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THAT QUESTION.

THIS IS A PROJECT THAT IS BEEN IN OUR CIP IN FY 22 FOR SOME TIME, JUST AS DO SOME FIELD UPGRADES TO THE SITE, INCLUDING TURF AND TRACK UPGRADES AT ONE OF THE FIELDS, NOT BOTH OF THE FIELDS.

THAT IS WHAT THAT IS CONSISTING OF.

>> SPEAKER: COULD YOU TALK A BIT MORE ABOUT THAT IN TERMS OF WHY THE UPGRADES ARE NECESSARY?

>> SPEAKER: JUST BECAUSE OF THE CONDITION OF THE FIELD.

IT DOESN'T HAVE A PROPER TRACK.

IT IS CURRENTLY NATURAL GRASS, WHICH WE WOULD PREFER SYNTHETIC TURF.

FOR OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS.

THAT'S WHY IT IS PROPOSED.

I SEE JOHN FINNIGAN JUST CAME ON.

JOHN, IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE GW FIELD PROJECT.

>> SPEAKER: ALSO THAT WOULD HELP WITH TRAINING.

AS I MENTIONED, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR CUTTING OFF EARLIER, WE HAVE SOME DRAINAGE ISSUES AROUND GEORGE WASHINGTON AS WELL WORK IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE OVER THERE AS WELL AS PUTTING IN A BETTER TRACK.

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RIGHT NOW IS NOT REALLY A TRACK IT'S MORE LIKE AN ASPHALT SIDEWALK AND ADJUST LOOPS AROUND THE FIELD AND IT IS UNDULATING AND NOT A FLAT SURFACE.

WE WOULD LOOK AT PROVIDING A MUCH BETTER TRACK.

(INDISCERNIBLE).

>> SPEAKER: I SAW MR. CHAPMAN, UOFA QUESTION?

>> SPEAKER: I HAVE A COMMENT.

I THINK MOST FOLKS MIGHT NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS AND MR. WILSON KNOWS WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS.

I AM KIND OF EXCITED ABOUT THIS GW UPGRADE.

WE HAD A CONSTITUENT COME ON A REGULAR BASIS,.

>> SPEAKER: MONTHLY.

>> SPEAKER: MONTHLY, FOR YEARS, TALKING ABOUT THE FACT, AND MS. GENTRY I SEE YOU SHAKING YOUR HEAD AS WELL AND A NUMBER OF FOLKS.

TO SEE MR. CAR POP UP AND BE ABLE TO FINALLY GET THE TRACK FOR THE STUDENTS THAT HE HAS BEEN PRESSING ABOUT FOR YEARS, I THINK WILL BE A GREAT THING.

BUT I DO THINK IT'S REALLY GOOD TO SEE THIS PROJECT MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE I DO THINK THERE HAS BEEN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE ABILITY TO USE THOSE FIELDS FOR ADDITIONAL USE, WHETHER IT BE AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL OR HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL AS WELL.

IT'S REALLY GOOD TO SEE THAT.

BUT FOR THOSE OF US WHO HAVE SEEN MR. CAR REGULAR CONSISTENT BASIS TO TALK ABOUT THIS, IT WILL BE EXCITING TO ACTUALLY SEE THIS COME TO FRUITION.

I JUST HAD TO MAKE THAT COMMENT AS SOON AS I HEARD ABOUT THE GW TRACK.

>> SPEAKER: CAN I FOLLOW UP ON THAT?

>> SPEAKER: YES, PLEASE.

>> SPEAKER: THE ONE PIECE I WANTED, AND I'M GLAD THE ADVICE MARY BROUGHT THIS UP AND COUNCILMAN CHAPMAN PILED ON.

WE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE NEED TO REPLACE WHAT IS AT MINNIE HOWARD ON A TEMPORARY BASIS, WHEN MINNIE HOWARD IS GETTING BEERY -- GETTING REBUILT.

IS THE THINKING THAT THESE IMPROVEMENTS ARE GOING TO FACILITATE THAT AND SO -- I GUESS MY FOLLOW-UP QUESTION IS THE L WORD.

IS THAT ENVISIONED TO BE PART OF THIS CONVERSATION, AND IF SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT.

>> SPEAKER: AT THIS TIME WE HAVE NOT HAD DISCUSSIONS IN REGARDS TO LIGHTS ON THAT PARTICULAR FIELD.

BUT IT WILL ACCOMMODATE THE FIELD SPACE THAT WE DO NEED TO.

WE LOSING FIELD SPACE WILL BE BILLED THE MINNIE HOWARD FACILITY OR PROJECT.

AND WE ALSO HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND, BECAUSE OUR ENROLLMENT IS INCREASING ESPECIALLY AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, THAT WE ARE IN A SHORTAGE OF FIELDS ARE READY.

THIS -- AS WE ARE REMEDYING THE LOSS OF A FIELD ON THE MINNIE HOWARD CAMPUS, IT IS ALSO ALLOWING US TO REMEDY SOME OF THE FIELD CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE AND FIELD SPACE THAT WE HAVE JUST CURRENTLY THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF ALEXANDRIA.

>> SPEAKER: I GUESS I WOULD REITERATE WHEN WE SAID IT IS IN SCHOOLS THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO START SOME COMMUNITY DIALOGUE ON WHAT WE ARE PLANNING TO DO TO REPLACE THOSE FIELDS.

AND GET THAT KICKED OFF SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

I THINK THERE WILL NEED TO BE SOME CONVERSATION THERE AND I THINK WE WANT TO START THAT OFF.

WE CLEARLY HAVE SOME LESSONS IN THE PAST ON THAT AND SO LET'S TRY TO DO IT RIGHT.

>> SPEAKER: ON THURSDAY NIGHT ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS ON THE MIDDLE SCHOOL IS ABOUT FIELDS AND ALTERNATIVE PLACES FOR FIELDS.

SO JACK BROWARD ON OUR SIDE WILL BE THERE AND SO THAT WILL GET DISCUSSED.

>> SPEAKER: SINCE THIS CAN OF WORMS HAS BEEN OPENED -- I'M GOING TO TAKE IT EVEN FURTHER.

HAS THERE BEEN ANY CONVERSATIONS OR CAN WE PUT IN SOME CONVERSATIONS FOR POTENTIAL DOME OR LIKE COVERING? I KNOW WE ARE TALKING MORE THE TRACK THAT IS ON THE OTHER SIDE BEHIND THE SCHOOL, BUT I WANT TO SAY IT IS LENNY HARRIS PARKED ON THE SIDE, PUTTING IN A DOME, YEAR-ROUND USAGE, LIGHTS?

>> SPEAKER: YOU CAN'T BLAME THEM FOR NOT GOING BIG.

>> SPEAKER: GO BIG OR GO HOME.

WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THAT, BUT A DOME AT THIS POINT.

THAT HASN'T BEEN PART OF OUR DISCUSSION.

> HAVE YOU PAY FOR THOUGH.

>> SPEAKER: PUBLIC COUNTY PARTNERSHIPS.

WE WILL FIND MONEY FOR IT.

>> SPEAKER: THIS WAS ONE OF THE ISSUES WHEN WE CAME TO MACARTHUR AND THE FIELDS.

ONE OF THE FIRST QUESTIONS I HAD WAS, IS THIS FIELD FOR MACARTHUR, WHEN IT'S REDONE, WILL JUST BE STILL FOR ELEMENTARY? THE ANSWER WAS YES.

SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE COULDN'T PUT A FEW MORE FEET ON THAT MACARTHUR FIELD WHEN

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THERE IS SPACE FOR IT TO THEN HAVE ANOTHER FIELD THERE.

RIGHT NOW IT WON'T BE REGULATION FOR ANYONE, EVEN THOUGH THERE IS ROOM THERE TO DO IT.

IF WE ARE LOOKING AT IT.

>> SPEAKER: MR. CHAPMAN?

>> SPEAKER: MADAM CHAIR, AND CITY MANAGER CAN CORRECT ME FROM WRONG.

WE DID DO CITY STAFF DID SOME FEASIBILITY WORK ON A POSSIBLE DOME BECAUSE THAT CONVERSATION I HAVE BROUGHT UP BEFORE.

I DO SEE THE POTENTIAL AND POSITIVE OUTCOME FOR YEAR-ROUND USE ON AT LEAST ONE OF OUR FIELDS IN THE CITY.

AND SO I THINK WE COULD IF POSSIBLE MAYBE PICK UP THAT WORK AND SEE WHERE IT COULD GO.

OBVIOUSLY, IT IS A FUNDING ISSUE AS WELL.

BUT I THINK IF THERE IS SOME REAL SENSE THAT FOLKS MIGHT WANT TO DO THIS ON ONE OF THE FIELDS, AS A WAY TO HOPEFULLY DEAL WITH SOME OF THE LOSS OF FIELD SPACE.

I THINK IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE USEFUL.

>> SPEAKER: THAT HAS BEEN KIND OF AS PEOPLE HAVE BEEN THINKING OUT OF THE BOX, THAT HAS BEEN ON SOME OF THE DRAWINGS IN PAST DISCUSSIONS.

>> SPEAKER: OKAY.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OR COMMENTS.

IT'S BEEN A GREAT DISCUSSION.

ANYONE?

>> SPEAKER: KIND OF A CLOSING COMMENT.

IF FOLKS REMEMBER, I THINK MAYBE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO MYSELF AS WELL AS MR. MAYOR, WERE KIND OF RANTING AND RAVING IN ONE OF THESE MEETINGS ABOUT THE LOCATION.

FOR ME, IT WAS TO GET TO THIS POINT, FRANKLY, WHERE WE ARE ALL SITTING HERE TALKING ABOUT WHAT CAN BE DONE ON OUR CITY SITES.

CITY AND SCHOOL SITES.

I THINK WE ON COUNSEL KIND OF WILL PICK AND POKE AT AN PROD AT OUR CITY STAFF ABOUT WHAT CAN BE DONE AT MENISCAL SITES, BUT OBVIOUSLY, YOUR STAFF IS NOT OUR STUFF.

AND SO GETTING TO A PLACE WHERE WE HAVE THIS FULL-BLOWN CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT CAN BE DONE AT OUR SITE, I THINK IT'S VERY HEALTHY FOR US BECAUSE WE ARE VERY SMALL CITY.

WE HAVE LIMITED SPACE.

BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF CREATIVE JUICES AND WE HAVE SOME GREAT STAFF THAT CAN LOOK AT SOME OF THIS STUFF, IF WE GIVE THEM THE DIRECTION AND EMPOWER THEM TO DO SO.

AND SO I WANTED TO GIVE MY KUDOS TO ACPS STAFF FOR KIND OF OPENING UP THIS PANDORA'S BOX TO JUST -- AND SCHOOL BOARD, FRANKLY -- TO OPEN UP THIS PANDORA'S BOX AND ACTUALLY HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.

AGAIN, AS I SAID WITH MY EARLIER COMMENTS, MY FOCUS ON HOUSING ON A SCHOOL SITE HAS ALWAYS BEEN AT POTOMAC YARDS.

BUT I DO THINK IT IS HEALTHY THAT WE START TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS NOW, BECAUSE WHAT A NUMBER OF US PROBABLY HAD SMALLER CONVERSATIONS WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS AROUND, DOUGLAS MACARTHUR AND HOUSING ON THAT SITE, ALL OF THE QUESTIONS ABOUT HOUSING POLICY AND CODE LOCATION POLICY POP UP.

THOSE ARE QUESTIONS WE ARE GOING TO GET ON EVERY SIDE.

BUT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO, AND I SAY WE AND I MEAN COUNSEL, SCHOOL BOARD AND OUR PERSPECTIVE STAFFS, NEED TO BE READY TO START TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.

SO THAT WHEN WE GET TO A REAL OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT, WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED, WE KNOW WHAT MESSAGING THAT WE ARE GOING TO TAKE OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, AND HOW WE NEED TO GO ABOUT IT.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD AND SCHOOL STAFF IS REALLY STEPPED UP ON THIS AND TALKED ABOUT AND NOT BEEN SHY ABOUT TALKING ABOUT THE LOCATION OF MANY SERVICES ON SCHOOL GROUNDS.

SO THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE WITH FINAL COMMENT?

>> SPEAKER: QUICK COMMENT.

>> SPEAKER: MR. SUAREZ?

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU, CHAIR ANDERSON.

THANK YOU COUNCILMAN CHAPMAN.

I APPRECIATE THOSE REMARKS ON THE COLLOCATION ISSUE.

I ALSO WANTED TO SAY I APPRECIATED MANAGER JENKS COMMENTS ON THE COLLOCATION EARLIER.

I APPRECIATED HIM SAYING THAT THE KEY THERE IS THAT EDUCATIONAL VISION OF THE SCHOOL DIVISION IS REALLY FUNDAMENTALLY WHAT IS GOING TO DRIVE ANY SORT OF DECISION RELATING TO COLLOCATION.

I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING WHAT THE CITY AND THE SCHOOLS COLLABORATIVELY COME UP WITH THERE.

I JUST SORT OF HAD A LOGISTICAL QUESTION ON THAT.

I KNOW MS. GLICK SAID THAT MID-JANUARY WOULD BE THE POINT BY WHICH WE WOULD NEED

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TO HAVE SOME CLARITY THERE I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS WHAT THEY THOUGHT IS IN TERMS OF WHEN THE BOARD WOULD START TO HEAR SOME MORE CONCRETE THOUGHTS ON WHAT OPTIONS WOULD BE ALIGNED WITH THE EDUCATIONAL VISION OF THE SCHOOL DIVISION AND HOW WE ARE GOING TO GO FROM THERE.

>> SPEAKER: THE INTENT OVER THE NEXT MONTH AND A HALF ON THE HIGH SCHOOL PROJECT IS TO BE ABLE TO EXPLORE DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND ALSO LIKE I SAID FINALIZE THE EDUCATIONAL SPACE PROGRAM.

REALLY UNDERSTANDING, HOW MANY GYMNASIUMS ARE WE GOING TO NEED IN THIS NEW BUILDING.

HOW MANY CLASSROOMS, HOW MANY LABS.

IF WE ARE INCLUDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, HOW MANY UNITS? WHAT TO THEY LOOK LIKE? IF WE INCLUDE A POOL, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? SPACE FOR DCH AS HAVING THE FULL PROGRAM OF THAT.

SO WE WILL HAVE THE ARCHITECT ON BOARD TO BASICALLY EVALUATE DIFFERENT OPTIONS, CONDUCTED DIFFERENT TEST FITS WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVED FROM CITY STAFF THAT THEY HAVE REQUESTED THAT WE LOOK INTO.

AND SO THEN WE WILL LOOK INTO THOSE THINGS AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO GIVE THE SCHOOL BOARD UPDATES KIND OF THROUGHOUT HOPEFULLY DECEMBER ONCE WE HAVE THEM ON BOARD AND ESPECIALLY IN EARLY JANUARY TO JUST TALK ABOUT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FROM THAT STANDPOINT, INCLUDING CITY STAFF IN THAT PROCESS.

AND BEING ABLE TO GET TO A DECISION ON WHAT THE FULL SPACE PROGRAM, WHAT WE ARE ACTUALLY BUILDING THERE WILL LOOK LIKE.

DR. HUTCHINGS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD OR ANYBODY ELSE WORK BUT THAT IS REALLY WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO GET THROUGH WITH THIS PREDESIGNED PHASE.

>> SPEAKER: I HAVE A QUESTION.

SORRY.

NOW THAT YOU BROUGHT UP SOMETHING.

YOU SAID THE WORD POOL.

IF WE ARE LOOKING AT A POOL, AND I KNOW WE TRIED TO DO THAT AT INCA PEN, IT DIDN'T WORK OUT.

ARE WE LOOKING AT MINNIE HOWARD FOR THAT?

>> SPEAKER: YES.

IT IS CURRENTLY INCLUDED AND PART OF THE MINNIE HOWARD DEVELOPMENT.

>> SPEAKER: WOULD TOOK OFFENSE POOL STAY? IS THAT UNDER DISCUSSION? OR WOULD THAT BECOME SOME THING ELSE? PANDORA'S BOX.

>> SPEAKER: DEMAND FOR SWIMMING IN ALEXANDRIA IS SUCH, THAT IT WOULD PROBABLY STAY.

>> SPEAKER: OKAY.

THANKS.

>> SPEAKER: BUT DON'T BUY YOUR SUIT FOR THAT POOL YET.

THERE IS STILL A LOT LEFT TO BE DONE.

>> SPEAKER: THAT'S A REALLY GOOD LOCATION.

THANK YOU JUST WANT TO STAY INFORMED.

>> SPEAKER: YOU ARE SAYING THAT'S YOUR BACKYARD POOL NOW, COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON?

>> SPEAKER: YES.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.

THAT IS WALKING DISTANCE.

>> SPEAKER: PRETTY DARN CONVENIENT FOR YOU.

>> SPEAKER: YES VERY CONVENIENT FOR ME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> SPEAKER: WAS SOMEONE ELSE GOING TO SAY SOMETHING TOO? DR. HUTCHINGS, YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY? OKAY.

ALL RIGHT, I DON'T KNOW IF I SEE NO MORE HANDS AND -- WE HAVE HAD A GREAT DISCUSSION THIS EVENING.

THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US.

AND WE WILL SEE YOU AGAIN ON ZOOM SOMETIME.

I AM NOT CONTROLLING THIS, BUT EVERYBODY, GOODBYE.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.